The Molly Maguires Mafia (ENDGAME)

[Alison]

It's literally the VOR Ultimatum. It is the gun-to-head demand I made of my strongest wolfread.

esooa is your strongest wolfread?

No, VOR was.

I am saying that treating Esooa in the same way I treated my strongest wolfread in that game is not exactly giving her power or disrespecting Kami's legacy.

[Esooa]

guys I dunno if you should do this sheeping me plan, I won't be able to spend much time on this game seeing as my cat just died

Really?

no I wanted to say something from when 112 was a wolf and pocketed Mac and they did that that game iirc

[Alison]

guys I dunno if you should do this sheeping me plan, I won't be able to spend much time on this game seeing as my cat just died

Really?

no I wanted to say something from when 112 was a wolf and pocketed Mac and they did that that game iirc

lmao

[MacDougall]

@Kami these people are giving power up to me after I killed you, in fact because of it

these people equals literally just Alison btw

You don't agree?

if I'm wolf esooa I just kill you tonight kill a town kill mac and then nobody will care that we ever had this conversation... its no threat to her at all

[MacDougall]

guys I dunno if you should do this sheeping me plan, I won't be able to spend much time on this game seeing as my cat just died

Really?

no I wanted to say something from when 112 was a wolf and pocketed Mac and they did that that game iirc

lmao

fwiw I was aware that was what she was doing

[Esooa]

if I'm wolf Esooa with literally anyone but Wilgy I just kill tf out of a town

[Esooa]

oh that's what Mac meant

[Lime Coke]

I still find Rabbit towny as hell I'm just confused at this game state right now.

what do you find towny about him?

@Luckbox Inc also you?

Started off with his attempt to read Esooa and the fact that I was pretty much melding with his thought process.
Then it's pretty much the fact that he pinballs around with scumreads and team guesses throughout the day phase that I've seen him do in every game he was town in.
Plus he never actually fell off throughout the day phase, like he was consistently hunting around, trying to find answers.

Just so you know being a weathervane is NAI for rabbit. It's the most obvious part of his town meta so he has learned to fake it extensively as wolf.

I know he could probably be an insane wolf if he can simulate his erratic style, but I haven't seen it first hand yet.

He randed wolf last in Didney Worl but I haven't felt that it was needed to look at it?

i was town in both didney worls

my last wolfgame i hardbussed the partner nutella was onto and then signal boosted all the bad susses nutella had

you are correct that i havent been able to imitate full weathervane insanity though (but i will be able to)

Oh...I thought you randed wolf for some reason there.

If it was one of the short games then that could be easier to decipher after reading through.

[Alison]

@Kami these people are giving power up to me after I killed you, in fact because of it

these people equals literally just Alison btw

You don't agree?

if I'm wolf esooa I just kill you tonight kill a town kill mac and then nobody will care that we ever had this conversation... its no threat to her at all

We'll just have to trust that the rest of the town is competent enough to turbo the person who has killed two town and been hard scumread by all three nightkills

[MacDougall]

@Kami these people are giving power up to me after I killed you, in fact because of it

these people equals literally just Alison btw

You don't agree?

if I'm wolf esooa I just kill you tonight kill a town kill mac and then nobody will care that we ever had this conversation... its no threat to her at all

We'll just have to trust that the rest of the town is competent enough to turbo the person who has killed two town and been hard scumread by all three nightkills

or we could just use our gigabrains and find the mafia ourselves

[iaafr]

arent we all agreeing its just like ender/wilgy maaaaybe luckbox unless somebodys playing like a god rn

[Alison]

My gigabrain tells me that the mafia is DrWilgy who is the same person Esooa wanted to kill.

[Alison]

I honestly don't believe in the Luckbox clear as much as other people do but I think there's enough evidence that way that we should just nab the easy pelt first and explore Ender vs Luckbox later.

[Esooa]

I only said that to make you happy before you die and I change my mind

[MacDougall]

The only person I would be surprised to see flip mafia here is Alison... nah I'd also be surprised if LC flipped mafia.

Nobody else would really surprise me.

[MacDougall]

arent we all agreeing its just like ender/wilgy maaaaybe luckbox unless somebodys playing like a god rn

I am kinda living in a world where I don't see why Ender makes the plays he makes as a solo wolf, or someone being hard tunneled by Kami. He could have just so easily have sheeped you and Esooa onto Kami who were both townreading him quite strongly from what I saw in catch up.

[Esooa]

his vote on me was super weak and is easily justified by saying he would be fine with me dying (why not) and is even more fine with Kami dying while scum reading me and him voting me

but maybe, only cause his posts this night phase were reasonable I recal

[EnderWiggin]

If Wilgy flips town then Ender has to be scum. I can't see any scum teams that do not involve Ender in that world.

Can I sell you Esooa/Luckbox?

[Alison]

I only said that to make you happy before you die and I change my mind

If she changes her mind turbo her instantly.

[Esooa]

I changed my mind

[Alison]

If Wilgy flips town then Ender has to be scum. I can't see any scum teams that do not involve Ender in that world.

Can I sell you Esooa/Luckbox?

What's the pitch?

[MacDougall]

I love Wilgy but I have to admit he's like the one player who as town won't ever become obvious so if he's town subbed in here we are probs flipping him anyway unless he completely buries himself in solving the game and does things I've never seen him ever do.

[Esooa]

I've not struggled with town reading him in games I've played with him

[MacDougall]

I've not struggled with town reading him in games I've played with him

in how many of them was he mischopped anyway?

[Esooa]

I dunno

[Lime Coke]

I swear I don't actually see him get chopped that often, probably because now people are greeting me with "He's always mischopped" every time I say something about him.

[Alison]

Wilgy mischops are probably the biggest Syndicate meme.

[iaafr]

i found him in philomaf because he was caught up on one in nutella/me and kept pushing it and it seemed real

oh and also for the way he tried to justify his own shot on ic mr

[Esooa]

i found him in philomaf because he was caught up on one in nutella/me and kept pushing it and it seemed real

oh and also for the way he tried to justify his own shot on ic mr

well I was doing that after I killed Kami so you should town read me

[MacDougall]

Wilgy mischops are probably the biggest Syndicate meme.

forgive me but I've been here a long time

[iaafr]

i found him in philomaf because he was caught up on one in nutella/me and kept pushing it and it seemed real

oh and also for the way he tried to justify his own shot on ic mr

well I was doing that after I killed Kami so you should town read me

but ur such good scum

[Alison]

I actually just realized that we have to kill Wilgy tomorrow no matter what because if we miss then we go into F5 with Wilgy. If they are scum we want to kill them if they are town we want to keep them away from F5.

[Esooa]

i found him in philomaf because he was caught up on one in nutella/me and kept pushing it and it seemed real

oh and also for the way he tried to justify his own shot on ic mr

well I was doing that after I killed Kami so you should town read me

but ur such good scum

I was hoping me saying that and giving away I did it intentionally would make you wolf read me

[iaafr]

i found him in philomaf because he was caught up on one in nutella/me and kept pushing it and it seemed real

oh and also for the way he tried to justify his own shot on ic mr

well I was doing that after I killed Kami so you should town read me

but ur such good scum

I was hoping me saying that and giving away I did it intentionally would make you wolf read me

nothing could make me wolf read you my queen

[Alison]

If Wilgy flips town then Ender has to be scum. I can't see any scum teams that do not involve Ender in that world.

Can I sell you Esooa/Luckbox?

What's the pitch?

I'm waiting.

[EnderWiggin]

If Wilgy flips town then Ender has to be scum. I can't see any scum teams that do not involve Ender in that world.

Can I sell you Esooa/Luckbox?

What's the pitch?

I'm waiting.

Wolfmeta.

Made a mini explanation earlier.

Fell asleep before and still need more sleep.

Will try to case later

[DrWilgy]

Ah. You turds added 7 pages.

I was thinking lunch catch-up for 12 pages was going to be hard but doable, but now I don't even wanna, I think I'd rather just engage.

Also I just scrolled up. Alison don't kill me.

[DrWilgy]

look at me I'm a cute little innocent anime girl

We are all anime girls on the inside.

[DrWilgy]

I misread Kami last time she was a wolf

Distasteful even during rvs

[DrWilgy]

Mac probably town for the serious approach with the immediate reads this game.

Do agree with him that Luckbox looked awful in his two posts.

Was thinking that Rabbit looked towny during the exchange with Kami.

Which I found ironic that Kami looked unconfident as he's telling Rabbit that he doesn't sound confident.

Just because he isn't fartposting he isn't town for it.

Yes

Meh

I disagree

[DrWilgy]

I am probably just going to be laid back this game and enjoy finally being able to play a high quality game without griefers or toxicity.

Laid back Alison? Say it ain't so?

[Esooa]

I misread Kami last time she was a wolf

Distasteful even during rvs

hoiw

[DrWilgy]

That's 2 now. Weird.

Please stop talking nonsense.

you slipped luckbox as town and then you slipped your alignment as not town

It's polite to say excuse me when you let out a fart in a room full of people.

not a towny response

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

even less towny response

Mac V Alison early. Sweet.

[DrWilgy]

I misread Kami last time she was a wolf

Distasteful even during rvs

hoiw

This comment differs responsibility on a read. Regardless of capacity, this sets up for a lack of read or one that isn't genuine.

[DrWilgy]

Idk this is giving me theater vibes

I disagree with theater vibes.

Alison Mac could be T/W based on this early exchange. If it is T/W, I'd say Alison is the Wolf.

[DrWilgy]

I'm at the point where we are transitioning out of RVS it seems.

alisons reaction to your pressure actually like

made her look better in my eyes

ive been unsure and basically just waiting on something to push me on actually scumreading someone between alison and ender because ive kinda wanted there to be a wolf there but have felt neither wolfread to be fully compelling

if you say alisons towny i can kind of see it but totally

How did the Mac Alison spat make Alison look better? This has the opposite effect for me.

[DrWilgy]

there is a part of me that didnt want to declare a townread on esooa but a bigger part of me is apparently a simp so

I'm in the same boat here, but more because I feel like I misread her off of attempted vibe reads rather than paying attention to what she's doing in the game.

I'm giving more time but at the least I'll say that she's not someone I want to vote out Day 1.

This gets a downvote.

[DrWilgy]

IM NOT SUS

Shush shush, yes you are, no need to yell.

[DrWilgy]

Alright

Quarter caught up.

Ender's posts seem *TOO* there if that makes sense. Agenda vibes > hunting vibes.

Esooa and Alison scum leans.

Not sure what to think on Iaafr.

Lime Coke is town via Ender TMI.

[MacDougall]

keep going McWilgy you can do it