GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[Guillotine]

uhh, recanting my seanzie read if it matters at this point

marmot, sabie, dizzy are all good suspects imo

and i could easily see BK as a wolf in this one

@Guillotine i meant because this was one of his early posts. does a wolf really support suspicions on 2 buddies this early? and sadie could be a wolf too

falcon mentioned that 112 does bus so maybe i shouldn't give it as much credit, but i thought the interactions with dizzy were decent too. you are correct that there is nothing specifically clearing in his interactions with marmot, it was specifically this early post. if he's a wolf he's definitely townsiding and bringing us his buddies at the very least

Did 112 act upon Marmot. Threw shade, vote him etc?

[Justplayingitcool]

almost 3k post lmao

[TonyStarkPrime]

alexa do you just want to kill me because you're upset that i keep voting you

there were times i OMGUSed you before of that, but i really just found your EOD1 scummy

How was it scummy I got excited and killed a town

[TonyStarkPrime]

fwiw I was third highest poster in anni and I don’t think I cracked 2K

[hollowkatt]

my range is swol but my skills are pre charles atlas

[Guillotine]

Oh so four of us die to the chop?

Fun!

[alexa]

if Guillo is hardclaiming that screamer role i don't think it makes sense to chop him. if he's a villager, he will get resolved by soup. if he's a wolf, it's better to shoot him because if he's a villager, it clears or confirms his shooter, right?

[alexa]

uhh, recanting my seanzie read if it matters at this point

marmot, sabie, dizzy are all good suspects imo

and i could easily see BK as a wolf in this one

@Guillotine i meant because this was one of his early posts. does a wolf really support suspicions on 2 buddies this early? and sadie could be a wolf too

falcon mentioned that 112 does bus so maybe i shouldn't give it as much credit, but i thought the interactions with dizzy were decent too. you are correct that there is nothing specifically clearing in his interactions with marmot, it was specifically this early post. if he's a wolf he's definitely townsiding and bringing us his buddies at the very least

Did 112 act upon Marmot. Threw shade, vote him etc?

lookinginto it

[Guillotine]

Well in that case i do believe in info from deaths and km an angel of death myself sooo… i will utilize all gour of my votes to kill 4 people today. I work today but I’m off tomorrow.

[Guillotine]

if Guillo is hardclaiming that screamer role i don't think it makes sense to chop him. if he's a villager, he will get resolved by soup. if he's a wolf, it's better to shoot him because if he's a villager, it clears or confirms his shooter, right?

Yah!

[TonyStarkPrime]

Alexa sounds like you’re advocating for someone to shoot Guillo is this approx accurate

[TonyStarkPrime]

Do you have any take on Guillo’s alignment

[alexa]

Alexa sounds like you’re advocating for someone to shoot Guillo is this approx accurate

im advocating for him not to die via chop because that apparently makes his role useless

[TonyStarkPrime]

Do you think he’s likely to be telling the truth?

[alexa]

Do you have any take on Guillo’s alignment

GTH he is a villager. i've got him wrong before and i know he has a great wolf range, i just think him being self-sacrificial/advocating for his own death when i had a gun and could've very well killed him is not something he'd do as wolf. i think he'd consider it letting down his team as a wolf, and he has a lot of honor in that regard. if he's a wolf he's some sort of bomb however but even that isn't worth a 1-1 imo

[alexa]

Do you think he’s likely to be telling the truth?

even if he's lying, he still advocated for his own death at a critical time

[alexa]

ok, 112 only mentions marmot that one time. but TBF marmot died extremely early.

[Guillotine]

Do you have any take on Guillo’s alignment

GTH he is a villager. i've got him wrong before and i know he has a great wolf range, i just think him being self-sacrificial/advocating for his own death when i had a gun and could've very well killed him is not something he'd do as wolf. i think he'd consider it letting down his team as a wolf, and he has a lot of honor in that regard. if he's a wolf he's some sort of bomb however but even that isn't worth a 1-1 imo

Ok. Im officially out of my tunnel on Alexa.

[Guillotine]

Alexa has the clout to misrepresent me and get me chopped and is not doing that.

Inb4 she just wants to payback for our last game and beat me in the same terms. Fully pocketed.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: sabie, sig, tsp, hk] aubergine

[TonyStarkPrime]

claim: it is approx not possible to think that I'm a wolf for my eod (where I embarked upon campaign: save wilgy etc) and also think that wilgy is town

[TonyStarkPrime]

i am side-eyeing people who continue to make claims to this extent

[TonyStarkPrime]

I am like 100 posts behind alexa but I have so much work to do so I'm tabbing out see yall at 10 at which point I'll have like 20 votes on me

[alexa]

Alexa has the clout to misrepresent me and get me chopped and is not doing that.

Inb4 she just wants to payback for our last game and beat me in the same terms. Fully pocketed.

lmao i wish that were the case :P but you're right, i am just a villager and don't think you dying would be good here.



@TonyStarkPrime - IMO Wilgy is like a dead man walking/an easy mischop for mafia if he is town. Seanzie was not and was never a wagon contention. I think mafia would've rather had Seanzie go than Wilgy EOD1 regardless of alignment. So no, I don't really see how that makes you town.

[alexa]

i think HK (claimed kill on NAA)/Sabie (claimed kill on Ender) low key are CCs. i don't see how it's possible for there to be only 1 mafia/3P KP N1 in a game this big and 2 village KP. plus that + all the day vig's, some of these have to be scum

[Justplayingitcool]

i think HK (claimed kill on NAA)/Sabie (claimed kill on Ender) low key are CCs. i don't see how it's possible for there to be only 1 mafia/3P KP N1 in a game this big and 2 village KP. plus that + all the day vig's, some of these have to be scum

I think the NAA kill is more likely to come from town

[alexa]

i think HK (claimed kill on NAA)/Sabie (claimed kill on Ender) low key are CCs. i don't see how it's possible for there to be only 1 mafia/3P KP N1 in a game this big and 2 village KP. plus that + all the day vig's, some of these have to be scum

I think the NAA kill is more likely to come from town

mm i'd agree, the only thing that makes me pause on this is that mafia would've been given his role. so they could want to kill a cop role

[TonyStarkPrime]

Agree with caveat that one of the four vig related claims is almost certainly 3P and NAA kill makes sense for 3P

[TonyStarkPrime]

i think HK (claimed kill on NAA)/Sabie (claimed kill on Ender) low key are CCs. i don't see how it's possible for there to be only 1 mafia/3P KP N1 in a game this big and 2 village KP. plus that + all the day vig's, some of these have to be scum

I think the NAA kill is more likely to come from town

mm i'd agree, the only thing that makes me pause on this is that mafia would've been given his role. so they could want to kill a cop role

Then they could soup but I typed this out before realizing then they could soup

[TonyStarkPrime]

And TBH they might not want to have waited to soup a cop idk and if falcon was actually a red and they had his role from Alison or something then maybe it was a protective move

[TonyStarkPrime]

I’m gonna call it a wash

[TonyStarkPrime]

Alexa has the clout to misrepresent me and get me chopped and is not doing that.

Inb4 she just wants to payback for our last game and beat me in the same terms. Fully pocketed.

lmao i wish that were the case :P but you're right, i am just a villager and don't think you dying would be good here.



@TonyStarkPrime - IMO Wilgy is like a dead man walking/an easy mischop for mafia if he is town. Seanzie was not and was never a wagon contention. I think mafia would've rather had Seanzie go than Wilgy EOD1 regardless of alignment. So no, I don't really see how that makes you town.

Strong disagree. Or perhaps, sort of disagree. Wilgy does not appear to be an easy chop here. Pf: see wagon composition. But I see the point. Tbh my contribution to the Sean wagon was like 4 posts and some people are just upset about the time I killed Sean last time

[dyachei]

maybe im crazy but im not really seeing why tsp is a wolf?

[dyachei]

[VOTE: hk, sabie, wilgy, 112] aubergine

[alexa]

i just realized i literally have a super important work meeting between 5 and 6 tomorrow and won't be able to make EOD. please don't do crazy things

[hollowkatt]

go read macs posts from last night, he called me correctly. I have one more townsided trick up my sleeve that isn't just hard townsiding with solves/play but I'm keeping that close to my body.

[dyachei]

go read macs posts from last night, he called me correctly. I have one more townsided trick up my sleeve that isn't just hard townsiding with solves/play but I'm keeping that close to my body.

can you quote it?

[hollowkatt]

go read macs posts from last night, he called me correctly. I have one more townsided trick up my sleeve that isn't just hard townsiding with solves/play but I'm keeping that close to my body.

can you quote it?

who wants to know a fun fact?

ur about to hard claim 3p with a townsided wincon?

Honestly 2 Mafia on Ender at EoD when Ender had 3 votes isn't super likely so JPIC and Falcon are a bit more town off of that.

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. Ender had more votes on him but then people switched. Mafia probably didn't kill ender so they weren't planning on him flipping town today. Like they may have been setting up to mischop. Not all the mafia would want to be seen voting seanzie. Is it likely all 3 are Mafia? No but I wouldn't say it fully town clears either falcon or jpic.

I don't know this game is super hurting my brain. I figure I might as well claim and you can take from it what you will. Here's why I said this post.

I was the town vig shot on ender. My thought process there was alison and Sean both thought ender was scummy. Dizzy seemed to pushing for ender. I couldn't figure out a dizzy read so If ender ended up being scum then awesome. If he flipped town then it helped sort out dizzy which it did and then someone shot him and he flipped wolf. I thought this also made jpic and maybe falcon look bad for following dizzys vote there. That's my thought process. I thought maybe it would help sort things out and maybe it did a little but we're all over the place and can't come to a consensus. I don't blame people for suspecting me as I haven't played up to par. I don't have much energy to process all this right now and there's no way I'm going to be up at like 5/6 am for eod. So adding a vote to jpic. I'll have to take a look and reevaluate where I want my votes.

@hollowkatt

yeah ok.

fine, you got me. I am hard claiming 3p with townsided win condition you asshole.

j/k I luff you, but yeah. sabie can actually be town vig.

[hollowkatt]

literally the only question though is this: Does Mac know this b/c he's a mafia god, or does Mac know this b/c he's a wolf?

[alexa]

oh, HK hardclaimed 3P?

[dyachei]

i guess the question is if i believe you're town-sided or not

[Justplayingitcool]

Oh i saw that claim but thought it was a joke

[Justplayingitcool]

I have learnt the hard way not to trust 3p claims

hk can die and i will have no remorse

[alexa]

role sounds like SK. meh

i was given a 3P role that was a 1-shot vig that just had to make sure 3 roles died before me (loyal/compulsive/cop) then i left the game and won, but idk if i'd call it town sided

[alexa]

I have learnt the hard way not to trust 3p claims

hk can die and i will have no remorse

same

[dyachei]

role sounds like SK. meh

i was given a 3P role that was a 1-shot vig that just had to make sure 3 roles died before me (loyal/compulsive/cop) then i left the game and won, but idk if i'd call it town sided

if you had to kill a town role to win then it wasnt really town sided

[hollowkatt]

I have a couple different ways to win, none of them are aligned with mafia.

[alexa]

role sounds like SK. meh

i was given a 3P role that was a 1-shot vig that just had to make sure 3 roles died before me (loyal/compulsive/cop) then i left the game and won, but idk if i'd call it town sided

if you had to kill a town role to win then it wasnt really town sided

some of those 3 were parts of wolf roles too afaik. that was my only witness of 3P on TS

[Justplayingitcool]

I have a couple different ways to win, none of them are aligned with mafia.

Cool story br0

[alexa]

Sabie could be town vig then, so i'm unvoting her