GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[alexa]

just so you all know, illario pushes me like this every single game we are V/V and it should not be given real merit regardless. i know i'm dying anyway but lol, i just want to be considered town until then

i think him being 3P is making him go harder at it and more ruthless though

[dyachei]

i think I saw that because it was before i had the kid?

[alexa]

i think I saw that because it was before i had the kid?

yeah but he just randomly started tunneling me again and poisoned me last night



also hope all is well with the kid <3

[alexa]

what is their name

[Creature]

This day is so boring. If someone has something new to bring to the table that would be appreciated.

[Sloonei]

I would like to look into how everybody starter off Days 3 and 4. I do not know what the mafia agenda would have been these last two days, but we should be looking at people to see whether or not their actions would fit any particular agenda.

[dyachei]

what is their name

Amy

[Creature]

I remember D3 prior to the TSP guilty planning to lynch away from the D2 top 8 names.

[Creature]

what is their name

Amy

So like Ampharos?

[dyachei]

what is their name

Amy

So like Ampharos?

No not like ampharos. My husband chose the name

[Porscha]

Can someone remind me who was responsible for each Day 1 vig shot?

Seanzie --> KZA
dyachei --> Marmot
??? --> Scotty
c4e5g3d5 (event prize) --> BoKnows
alexa (event prize) --> Alison

So many townies have shot other townies this game.

statistically that's probable in a game with like 23 town 7 maf and 2 3p so no need to be too gloomy about it

[Creature]

9 / 32 makes roughly 28% of non-town. I suppose third parties can't be entirely townsided.

[sabie12]

I have been busy with work/D and D. I am back for a bit.

[sabie12]

Mac has so far been the only mafia flipped that has pushed Wilgy.
But most of Wilgy's wagonis still alive: sabie12, dyachei, falcon45ca, Paopan, LinearPoint, Creature, alexa

Mac seems like someone distancing.

I think someone mentioned before that Mac has bussed a lot as a wolf. could be wrong

Was it mac that ppsted that gif of the monster bus bussing teammates which I guess at this point isn't just a joke but what actually happened.

[dyachei]

Mac has so far been the only mafia flipped that has pushed Wilgy.
But most of Wilgy's wagonis still alive: sabie12, dyachei, falcon45ca, Paopan, LinearPoint, Creature, alexa

Mac seems like someone distancing.

I think someone mentioned before that Mac has bussed a lot as a wolf. could be wrong

Was it mac that ppsted that gif of the monster bus bussing teammates which I guess at this point isn't just a joke but what actually happened.

i think so

[Creature]

If you two are wolves im so fucked

Iconic

[Creature]

Yeah this

[sabie12]

The thing with paopan is I can't tell if he even believes anything he's saying. Like the way he posts it looks like he's not even reading the thread or knows what's going on. Is that intentional or like legit doesn't care to read it?

[ilario]

I think I would've liked if Paopan was resolved last night. I think DrWilgy probably should be resplved too. Sloonei is more dependent on what alexa flips.

Spoiler Alert: It will be town




I'm really frustrated with illario for how he's acting toward me and kind of hurt that he doesn't think I can play this way as town, but I'm doing my best to pull myself together regardless. Please kill him tomorrow, do not reconsider on this regard. He is probably real 3P but his play is losing us the game/detrimental to town and he's clearly scumsiding fairly hard, i think he's lying about his wincon because v!him or him playing like a villager would NEVER, EVER scumread me him


Read the way he turns on his read on me from yesterday coming into today, it doesn't make sense


He could just be a wolf but his play would be suicidal then

If I'm a wolf and he's not lying then he just dies today so you don't need to consider that scenario, but I promise you I'm town and we might be completely fucked due to 3P

Why is it hurtful? I think it can come from town, that’s why I didn’t shoot u over dizzy, that’s why I didn’t poison you earlier, I waited 3 whole days to do it but things built up. If ur town then I’m wrong and I’m
Sorry but ur getting mad at me for playing the game… you’ve deathtunneled me far more times and gotten me killed more than I’ve gotten u killed, this is legit the first time I’ve gotten u killed and ur acting like I’m
In the wrong for pursuing my wincon

[ilario]

I already explained everything about her

She’s just a wolf

Why’d she clear Belzy and Porscha?

She didn’t, she outed their roles to be soup killed

There was no reason for her to even role cop Betsy if she’s town, alexa was heavily townreading the slot on d2, why would she rc that slot if she trs them? Betsy was in no pressure to be voted out yesterday either because tsp was red checked so again it makes no sense for her to out the roles. I spent an hour trying to get her to hc her role and she insisted it’s a bad idea but then outta the blue she just decides to claim her own role AND two others? Like cmon man

That doesn't make sense. For one I rolecopped Porscha and not Belzy, there was not 100% proof that Porscha was lock clear, Belzy just claimed they had mechanical information on Porscha. There were 3 V flips and I realized I was wrong in some of my reads, so if I could confidently clear them, that felt useful to me.


What TF is my scum motive in that last part? I clearly did it impulsively dude.

But what is ur town motive ? I don’t have tmi on u dude, if ur town it’s easy for u to say u wouldn’t do that as scum since u know ur own role, I’ve tried to put myself in your shoes and asked why as town you would out the masons on a day they’re never being eliminated when there’s other slots like pao creature sabie that are always going to be resolved before anyone even mentions Betsy? Is it really that wrong for me to worry about that?

[ilario]

Your defense is why would you do xyz as scum because it’s bad to do as scum and ur a great scum and yeah fair enough that’s a valid argument but the reverse is just as valid. You are one of the best villas to play the game so the same logic applies there, if I can’t understand why you would do xyz as a villa and that happens repeadtedly several times over the game then ofc I’m gonna have doubts on ur alignment. You’re doing the exact same to me right now, ur saying I can’t possibly be misreading u as a townsiding 3p and therefore I’m evil and have to be policy chopped, how is that any differently to how you perceived me to have treated you?

[Sloonei]

Reading early Day 3, I actually think Alexa has the worst looking opening and progression that phase. Which makes me feel less anxious about the poison thing.

[ilario]

Betsy has been the most obv town slot in the game, they were under no risk and there was no reason to out their role


UNLESS this was some crazy town play by Alexa where she outed fake roles so mafia gets the wrong soup info but judging by porcha and Betsy reaction to it I don’t think that’s the case

I like how you product this out of thin air today but said nothing yesterday, you are so fucking clearly operating under an agenda dude and if not then I don't even know what to say to you



I outed it because the slots were getting heat and I wanted to protect them, it was obviously impulsive/not smart but your narrative of me doing that as scum makes no sense. You can die tomorrow (or hopefully tonight from sabie)

I didn’t say it yesterday because nobody was voting them and tsp was always dying. I did however say it on earlier days when I thought it was more relevant

[alexa]

illario, this is why it's hurtful

1. if i am town and you think i'm scum, then you had no reason to approach the game the way you have. you've just tunneled me day after day, even after coming around on me, and said things that have made me feel like shit about my town game and like you know i'm insecure about that stuff. with the wincon you have said you have, there is no valid/explainable reason for you to approach me the way you have this game

2. even if you think i'm scum/even if i was scum, and you have the wincon you say you have, the way you're approaching me id still see as messed up. you think i'm part of a scum team who is chosen so are like "i'm 3P and petty so i'm going to hard townside against you?" scum me would be like, 'that's messed up, it's clearly not me who chose a team if a team was chosen. there's 3 scum left and you targeting me as 3P' - i would perceive as complete bullshit after everything this game


if you were town, it'd be different.



but you are either mafia or 3P who shot your partner for no reason. either way, it is bullshit.

[alexa]

illario, this is why it's hurtful

1. if i am town and you think i'm scum, then you had no reason to approach the game the way you have. you've just tunneled me day after day, even after coming around on me, and said things that have made me feel like shit about my town game and like you know i'm insecure about that stuff. with the wincon you have said you have, there is no valid/explainable reason for you to approach me the way you have this game

2. even if you think i'm scum/even if i was scum, and you have the wincon you say you have, the way you're approaching me id still see as messed up. you think i'm part of a scum team who is chosen so are like "i'm 3P and petty so i'm going to hard townside against you?" scum me would be like, 'that's messed up, it's clearly not me who chose a team if a team was chosen. there's 3 scum left and you targeting me as 3P' - i would perceive as complete bullshit after everything this game


if you were town, it'd be different.



but you are either 3P or mafia who shot your partner for no reason. either way, it is bullshit.

EBWOP

but yeah i was shaking with anger at you last night and im trying to calm down

[Sloonei]

alexa/creature/sabie?

[alexa]

Reading early Day 3, I actually think Alexa has the worst looking opening and progression that phase. Which makes me feel less anxious about the poison thing.

please explain

[Creature]

Reading early Day 3, I actually think Alexa has the worst looking opening and progression that phase. Which makes me feel less anxious about the poison thing.

I think she is probably town. I'd still assume worst-case scenario here.

[Sloonei]

Reading early Day 3, I actually think Alexa has the worst looking opening and progression that phase. Which makes me feel less anxious about the poison thing.

please explain

Some of it is difficult to articulate. There was a certain momentum in the thread at that time, but you did not seem part of it. I'm not talking about activity level. I am talking energy, direction.
Also your main pushes at the time seemed to be at odds with with others. You had some focus on dya and me when most of the discussion at the time was around other names like TSP and Mac. When I read the thread from a bird's eye view, it just looks like you are slightly out of sync with the rest of the action.

[Sloonei]

Reading early Day 3, I actually think Alexa has the worst looking opening and progression that phase. Which makes me feel less anxious about the poison thing.

I think she is probably town. I'd still assume worst-case scenario here.

I feel that your push on me at the start of Day 3 was disingenuous also. But I've already said this.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@alexa has been modkilled. They will flip at EoD. Her vote will be discarded, and votes for her will count as a no vote. Day continues.

Spoiler: show

@ Belzy
@ Creature
@ DrWilgy
@ dyachei
@ falcon45ca
@ ilario
@ Justplayingitcool
@ LinearPoint
@ Paopan
@ Porscha
@ sabie12
@ Sloonei

[Creature]

Still think alexa is wolf?

[Creature]

[VOTE: Paopan] aubergine

[Creature]

Though I'm wondering if we should just lynch illario. We at least know they're not town.

[Creature]

Feels like town is losing and we've only delayed our fate so far.

[Creature]

Like, there's at least three wolves voting me rn.

Rank these names from most to least suspicious:
112, alexa, sabie12, dyachei, Paopan, Phil and Gloria, LinearPoint, hollowkatt, Creature, TonyStarkPrime

Hmmm

[Creature]

Like, there's at least three wolves voting me rn.

Rank these names from most to least suspicious:
112, alexa, sabie12, dyachei, Paopan, Phil and Gloria, LinearPoint, hollowkatt, Creature, TonyStarkPrime

Sabie, Pao, Phil & Gloria, TSP, Hollowkatt, LP, 112, Creature, Dyachi, Alexa.

Can you deduce anything from this list or is it just a pointless question?

This feels better

[Creature]

Like, there's at least three wolves voting me rn.

Who are they

Sabie, Pao and P&G. TSP makes a good fill in if I'm incorrect.

Just saying my wagon has a bunch of sussy bakas.

I like this

[Creature]

DrWilgy, how confident are you on Paopan?

[Paopan]

Only Belzy and Dya hasn't placed their bets yet
Let's go

[Paopan]

1 moofia already down. Goood good

[Paopan]

2 more mooofias.

Creature
JPIC/Sabie/LP/Wigly/Falcon

[Paopan]

Good luck townies! You can do it.

Cheers from Paopan

[DrWilgy]

DrWilgy, how confident are you on Paopan?

68% accuracy. Much higher than the 42% I'd give my second vote desire.

[Belzy]

Only Belzy and Dya hasn't placed their bets yet
Let's go

What bets?

[Belzy]

[VOTE: Paopan] aubergine

[Belzy]

If Paopon is town, we have already lost. He just targets confirmed town all game long in a way he "thinks" to be sure, too. So we better just lynch him and hoping he is scum.

[Belzy]

Can someone remind me who was responsible for each Day 1 vig shot?

Seanzie --> KZA
dyachei --> Marmot
??? --> Scotty
c4e5g3d5 (event prize) --> BoKnows
alexa (event prize) --> Alison

So many townies have shot other townies this game.

statistically that's probable in a game with like 23 town 7 maf and 2 3p so no need to be too gloomy about it

These bunch of townies never discussed with us whom to kill. They tried to play hero and failed.

[Belzy]

alexa/creature/sabie?

Alexa, really? Why??

[ilario]

My bad on alexa, sorry about that.