Highway Heist (MAFIA WIN)

[Hally]

I am fascinated by the fact Mr didn't get yeeted when I slept.

I have no clue how to interpret this.

Goodnight.

Ythistho

Because it adds perspective.

If MR is town, scum for some reason haven't done it yet. Either not present or afraid of the fall out.

Or he hasn't been hammered because their team is actively avoiding it.

i don’t know why you ever expect him to get hammered regardless of his alignment? wolves don’t just do that lol

also why do you not seem to be considering the possibility he’s a wolf?

BOLDZINGA

oh mb, i read that “their” as “wolves other than radishes” because radishes’ team would be “his team” not “their team” since he’s the subject of the sentence, or at least i think idk i’m not epi

still don’t get the point of your line of thought

[Hally]

also if for some reason you think wolves will just do that and they haven’t, the fact that the haven’t would make MR a wolf right? but your not concluding that? or are you?

I'm finding that the likely scenario, BUT I think it also is more so worth keeping in mind while we accrue more data on the people currently on MR.

If any of them specifically flip wolf, prior to us flipping MR, I'd say that just about clears MR. If MR flips Wolf, I'd say it just about clears everyone on the Wagon, with the exception that we think that there's a bussing teammate who just wasn't around to course correct.

what do you think of radishes’ posts? or any thoughts on the people pushing him?

[Hally]

I wanna stop talking about the hammer thing

no

let’s only talk about the hammer thing for the rest of the game

[DrWilgy]

Simply this:
if MR flips RED, I don't think these are wolves
c4e5g3d5, Alison, MacDougall, NotAnAxehole

I think there's a likely chance MR is red because of them not being hammered for what, a 10-12 hour period of floating 4?

[DrWilgy]

also if for some reason you think wolves will just do that and they haven’t, the fact that the haven’t would make MR a wolf right? but your not concluding that? or are you?

I'm finding that the likely scenario, BUT I think it also is more so worth keeping in mind while we accrue more data on the people currently on MR.

If any of them specifically flip wolf, prior to us flipping MR, I'd say that just about clears MR. If MR flips Wolf, I'd say it just about clears everyone on the Wagon, with the exception that we think that there's a bussing teammate who just wasn't around to course correct.

what do you think of radishes’ posts? or any thoughts on the people pushing him?

Haven't read that yet.

My thoughts are on vote assessment and like the past page.

[DrWilgy]

I wanna stop talking about the hammer thing

no

let’s only talk about the hammer thing for the rest of the game

yay!

[Hally]

Simply this:
if MR flips RED, I don't think these are wolves
c4e5g3d5, Alison, MacDougall, NotAnAxehole

I think there's a likely chance MR is red because of them not being hammered for what, a 10-12 hour period of floating 4?

your entire line of thought doesn’t make any sense to me

both the assumption wolves would just out themselves to hammer a villager early D1 and the assumption that if radishes is a wolf his teammate wouldn’t vote him to distance 30+ hours before EoD when votes don’t really matter just… idk why you would ever assume either of those things

[Marmot]

I am fascinated by the fact Mr didn't get yeeted when I slept.

I have no clue how to interpret this.

Goodnight.

Ythistho

Because it adds perspective.

If MR is town, scum for some reason haven't done it yet. Either not present or afraid of the fall out.

Or he hasn't been hammered because their team is actively avoiding it.

i don’t know why you ever expect him to get hammered regardless of his alignment? wolves don’t just do that lol

also why do you not seem to be considering the possibility he’s a wolf?

BOLDZINGA

The fact that Wilgy says the "team" could be actively avoiding it when a wolf MR could only have one teammate is actually a little townie imo, because I think scum!Wilgy would be more aware of the fact that there could only be one teammate which is not much of a team.

[Hally]

if anything i would almost say the opposite i.e. radishes getting 4 votes despite not being particularly wolfy (at least imo) could mean one of the voters is his teammate and getting in some easy distancing when it doesn’t actually matter

[Master Radishes]

Everyone talk more about me.

[Hally]

I am fascinated by the fact Mr didn't get yeeted when I slept.

I have no clue how to interpret this.

Goodnight.

Ythistho

Because it adds perspective.

If MR is town, scum for some reason haven't done it yet. Either not present or afraid of the fall out.

Or he hasn't been hammered because their team is actively avoiding it.

i don’t know why you ever expect him to get hammered regardless of his alignment? wolves don’t just do that lol

also why do you not seem to be considering the possibility he’s a wolf?

BOLDZINGA

The fact that Wilgy says the "team" could be actively avoiding it when a wolf MR could only have one teammate is actually a little townie imo, because I think scum!Wilgy would be more aware of the fact that there could only be one teammate which is not much of a team.

i’ve never heard anyone not refer to a two-man team as a team so i don’t think this is anything

villagery catch from you though

[c4e5g3d5]

I am fascinated by the fact Mr didn't get yeeted when I slept.

I have no clue how to interpret this.

Goodnight.

Ythistho

Because it adds perspective.

If MR is town, scum for some reason haven't done it yet. Either not present or afraid of the fall out.

Or he hasn't been hammered because their team is actively avoiding it.

i don’t know why you ever expect him to get hammered regardless of his alignment? wolves don’t just do that lol

also why do you not seem to be considering the possibility he’s a wolf?

BOLDZINGA

The fact that Wilgy says the "team" could be actively avoiding it when a wolf MR could only have one teammate is actually a little townie imo, because I think scum!Wilgy would be more aware of the fact that there could only be one teammate which is not much of a team.

I'm willing to fold to the consensus Marmot reads now

[Hally]

Everyone talk more about me.

ur hot

[c4e5g3d5]

I am fascinated by the fact Mr didn't get yeeted when I slept.

I have no clue how to interpret this.

Goodnight.

Ythistho

Because it adds perspective.

If MR is town, scum for some reason haven't done it yet. Either not present or afraid of the fall out.

Or he hasn't been hammered because their team is actively avoiding it.

i don’t know why you ever expect him to get hammered regardless of his alignment? wolves don’t just do that lol

also why do you not seem to be considering the possibility he’s a wolf?

BOLDZINGA

The fact that Wilgy says the "team" could be actively avoiding it when a wolf MR could only have one teammate is actually a little townie imo, because I think scum!Wilgy would be more aware of the fact that there could only be one teammate which is not much of a team.

i’ve never heard anyone not refer to a two-man team as a team so i don’t think this is anything

villagery catch from you though

Oh come on I've been winning every sniper duel lately

[Master Radishes]

Everyone talk more about me.

ur hot

[c4e5g3d5]

Oh my god I'm only now realizing I got sniped by a whole two minutes I'm washed up

[Marmot]

Spicy master spicy radish

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@JaggedJimmyJay are you now able to talk about the Radish things you couldn't talk about before

Briefly. Very little time this afternoon

I don’t think you were entirely fair with your reception of my initial MR read explanation or his reception of it (Hally called it uncharitable which I think fits). I don’t blame you for that; I understand your read too. I just didn’t find it compelling.

I’m less ecstatic about MR at present, but I also haven’t read anything today

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what’s your read on NAA? thoughts on my concerns above?

Dunno, not caught up

[Hally]

what if i just lock radishes as v and mason with him for all of D1? what then?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Imagine having four votes on you after you've town told your ass off, smh

[Master Radishes]

what if i just lock radishes as v and mason with him for all of D1? what then?

Just like old times? I'm down.

[Master Radishes]

Imagine having four votes on you after you've town told your ass off, smh

I feel you here.

[c4e5g3d5]

Imagine having four votes on you after you've town told your ass off, smh

I call this "Wednesday"

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Reading his iso did not help. Idk, sometimes I can get a confident read on him, sometimes I have no idea, rn I have no idea, he's rand as far as I'm concerned

[Hally]

what if i just lock radishes as v and mason with him for all of D1? what then?

Just like old times? I'm down.

ok, who we killing mason partner? what dastardly deeds have you uncovered? who makes you feel all warm and fuzzy in your root vegetable insides?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Too much hammer chatter

[Master Radishes]

what if i just lock radishes as v and mason with him for all of D1? what then?

Just like old times? I'm down.

ok, who we killing mason partner? what dastardly deeds have you uncovered? who makes you feel all warm and fuzzy in your root vegetable insides?

Iirc you do all the real work first and I just come in for a dunk later.

So iunno. I've mostly only been present for the opening pages of shitposting thus far.

[Marmot]

I am fascinated by the fact Mr didn't get yeeted when I slept.

I have no clue how to interpret this.

Goodnight.

Ythistho

Because it adds perspective.

If MR is town, scum for some reason haven't done it yet. Either not present or afraid of the fall out.

Or he hasn't been hammered because their team is actively avoiding it.

i don’t know why you ever expect him to get hammered regardless of his alignment? wolves don’t just do that lol

also why do you not seem to be considering the possibility he’s a wolf?

BOLDZINGA

The fact that Wilgy says the "team" could be actively avoiding it when a wolf MR could only have one teammate is actually a little townie imo, because I think scum!Wilgy would be more aware of the fact that there could only be one teammate which is not much of a team.

i’ve never heard anyone not refer to a two-man team as a team so i don’t think this is anything

villagery catch from you though

My point is that if MR is a wolf, his team consists of one other person which is not much of a team. I agree it is a very specific detail but I see it as a single townie point.

If wilgy licks me, it's five more townie points

[Hally]

i could vote wilgy too

currently feel like NAA/wilgy wagons is the play here over nook/radishes

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Too much hammer chatter

To expand:

I have mindset concerns about a hunt focused solely around whether or not mafia would hammer X

[Marmot]

MR has 3 votes, but I could vote for anyone of those voters so yeah, let's keep Radish alive

[Master Radishes]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Too much hammer chatter

Must say, I also found this weird. I never felt in danger of being hammered and I even resisted self voting for the meme because I figured it'd be a town more likely to hammer me, not a scum.

And then he doubled down on it which I guess is not really AI but still is a likely enough scum approach when called out on something.

I dont think I've ever seen scum Wilgz though.

[Marmot]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Too much hammer chatter

To expand:

I have mindset concerns about a hunt focused solely around whether or not mafia would hammer X

Good point.

Deduct one townie point

[Hally]

nobody has any thoughts on this?

Can I get a tldr on Axe that doesn't revolve around "not towny"

- treatment of alison is wolfy - opens saying he wants to sheep her while not yet having a read on her then v reads her for a weak reason that doesn’t really apply to her and makes no effort engage with/understand the suspicion surrounding her i.e. what villagers do when someone they v read is getting wolf read a ton. just don’t see any critical thought or drive to figure things out in his treatment of her and it reads more like he’s just trying to ingratiate himself to her.

- treatment of his nonconsensus suspects is wolfy - keeps throwing you out as a wolf read but does nothing about it. again, not what villagers do when someone they wolf read is getting widely v read. i think at one point he even threw out you/jay/dizzy as his suspects and you’re all being cleared pretty much, meaning from his pov town’s consensus is way off, yet i don’t see any of the concern in his posts that villagers have when they think everything is upside down.

- i find his treatment of me wolfy too but obviously biased there. just don’t feel like he’s been trying to solve me in a good faith way.

also he and nanook know each other well afaik + nanook has been getting a lot of heat, but NAA has largely ignored him i think

i dunno, just not feeling the villager in the way he’s approaching anything but i’ve never played with him so maybe i’m backwards here

[Marmot]

nobody has any thoughts on this?

Can I get a tldr on Axe that doesn't revolve around "not towny"

- treatment of alison is wolfy - opens saying he wants to sheep her while not yet having a read on her then v reads her for a weak reason that doesn’t really apply to her and makes no effort engage with/understand the suspicion surrounding her i.e. what villagers do when someone they v read is getting wolf read a ton. just don’t see any critical thought or drive to figure things out in his treatment of her and it reads more like he’s just trying to ingratiate himself to her.

- treatment of his nonconsensus suspects is wolfy - keeps throwing you out as a wolf read but does nothing about it. again, not what villagers do when someone they wolf read is getting widely v read. i think at one point he even threw out you/jay/dizzy as his suspects and you’re all being cleared pretty much, meaning from his pov town’s consensus is way off, yet i don’t see any of the concern in his posts that villagers have when they think everything is upside down.

- i find his treatment of me wolfy too but obviously biased there. just don’t feel like he’s been trying to solve me in a good faith way.

also he and nanook know each other well afaik + nanook has been getting a lot of heat, but NAA has largely ignored him i think

i dunno, just not feeling the villager in the way he’s approaching anything but i’ve never played with him so maybe i’m backwards here

I bet your mason partner does

[Master Radishes]

nobody has any thoughts on this?

Can I get a tldr on Axe that doesn't revolve around "not towny"

- treatment of alison is wolfy - opens saying he wants to sheep her while not yet having a read on her then v reads her for a weak reason that doesn’t really apply to her and makes no effort engage with/understand the suspicion surrounding her i.e. what villagers do when someone they v read is getting wolf read a ton. just don’t see any critical thought or drive to figure things out in his treatment of her and it reads more like he’s just trying to ingratiate himself to her.

- treatment of his nonconsensus suspects is wolfy - keeps throwing you out as a wolf read but does nothing about it. again, not what villagers do when someone they wolf read is getting widely v read. i think at one point he even threw out you/jay/dizzy as his suspects and you’re all being cleared pretty much, meaning from his pov town’s consensus is way off, yet i don’t see any of the concern in his posts that villagers have when they think everything is upside down.

- i find his treatment of me wolfy too but obviously biased there. just don’t feel like he’s been trying to solve me in a good faith way.

also he and nanook know each other well afaik + nanook has been getting a lot of heat, but NAA has largely ignored him i think

i dunno, just not feeling the villager in the way he’s approaching anything but i’ve never played with him so maybe i’m backwards here

Never seen scum NAA either so dunno, but I did read it over earlier and didn't have anything to counter it, just so you know your hard work didn't go to waste.

[Master Radishes]

nobody has any thoughts on this?

Can I get a tldr on Axe that doesn't revolve around "not towny"

- treatment of alison is wolfy - opens saying he wants to sheep her while not yet having a read on her then v reads her for a weak reason that doesn’t really apply to her and makes no effort engage with/understand the suspicion surrounding her i.e. what villagers do when someone they v read is getting wolf read a ton. just don’t see any critical thought or drive to figure things out in his treatment of her and it reads more like he’s just trying to ingratiate himself to her.

- treatment of his nonconsensus suspects is wolfy - keeps throwing you out as a wolf read but does nothing about it. again, not what villagers do when someone they wolf read is getting widely v read. i think at one point he even threw out you/jay/dizzy as his suspects and you’re all being cleared pretty much, meaning from his pov town’s consensus is way off, yet i don’t see any of the concern in his posts that villagers have when they think everything is upside down.

- i find his treatment of me wolfy too but obviously biased there. just don’t feel like he’s been trying to solve me in a good faith way.

also he and nanook know each other well afaik + nanook has been getting a lot of heat, but NAA has largely ignored him i think

i dunno, just not feeling the villager in the way he’s approaching anything but i’ve never played with him so maybe i’m backwards here

I bet your mason partner does

Oh damn I let Hally down.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I understand your view of NAA, Hally, and believe that you believe it. I am not sure those things are necessarily a terrible sign for him (specifically him), but they don’t indicate town either. At the least I’d have him in a POE pool.

[Master Radishes]

I found it easy to misread Axey first time I played with him though. So like your second point of not seeing concern in his posts does feel normal for him imo.

[Marmot]

I missed a lot of NAA's early content, so I don't have an opinion on him yet. I recall commenting on his sheeping of Alison in that it's something I've regularly seen him do as town, but that doesn't equate to a townread.

I'd sheep Hally's case on him though.

[c4e5g3d5]

What I've seen and heard of Axe makes me think the whole "caring about pushing reads" thing doesn't apply to him lol

Soz if my lack of response made you sound unheard, it was just that you ended on the thought I probably would've tried to steer you towards anyway so I decided to just let that thought simmer

[Hally]

I missed a lot of NAA's early content, so I don't have an opinion on him yet. I recall commenting on his sheeping of Alison in that it's something I've regularly seen him do as town, but that doesn't equate to a townread.

I'd sheep Hally's case on him though.

i don’t think anyone should sheep me on it lol

like i said, never played with him and the response to my case seems to be some amount of “this isn’t particularly wolfy for NAA,” so ok

[Marmot]

I missed a lot of NAA's early content, so I don't have an opinion on him yet. I recall commenting on his sheeping of Alison in that it's something I've regularly seen him do as town, but that doesn't equate to a townread.

I'd sheep Hally's case on him though.

i don’t think anyone should sheep me on it lol

like i said, never played with him and the response to my case seems to be some amount of “this isn’t particularly wolfy for NAA,” so ok

I hate trying to read him, gimme that juicy decisive read plzzzzzzzzz

[Hally]

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

[Master Radishes]

If I put Wilgy at E-2 do you think he gets hammered?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Too much hammer chatter

To expand:

I have mindset concerns about a hunt focused solely around whether or not mafia would hammer X

Good point.

Deduct one townie point

Add one point to Wilgy’s driver’s license.

[Marmot]

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

Let's play with fire

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I will be driving most of today so not gonna be very active

[JaggedJimmyJay]