Highway Heist (MAFIA WIN)

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

It could just be like c4 and Jay or something but

I don't care

[Hally]

i really hope axe is a wolf because i’m not sure mac or nook are

[MacDougall]

I am just going to continue to try to solve the game in the hopes that a miracle occurs.

I just ISO'd C4 and there is nothing redeemable there. In light of the flips all he's done is push on town and at no point did I see any single post that looked like a townslip or something a mafia couldn't concoct.

[NotAnAxehole]

i really hope axe is a wolf because i’m not sure mac or nook are

[MacDougall]

I think there is a pretty decent chance that this is making Axe town. Axe picking a tunnel and spam pushing it this way is townie, and so is thinking he has some bs tell read on me.

[Hally]

jay/c4 is cleared of being the team right? because no hammer

[NotAnAxehole]

I think there is a pretty decent chance that this is making Axe town. Axe picking a tunnel and spam pushing it this way is townie, and so is thinking he has some bs tell read on me.

I gave it yesterday, it's not bs, and it's not overly useful.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

In theory but its mylo and Jay is a coward

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

By which I mean he's a cautious scum player that is aware both me and axe may bait votes as town

[MacDougall]

What, are votes locked?

[Hally]

I think there is a pretty decent chance that this is making Axe town. Axe picking a tunnel and spam pushing it this way is townie, and so is thinking he has some bs tell read on me.

then nook has to be mafia fypov? or else jay/c4 hammer

[MacDougall]

Oh hammer at 4. Okay.

[MacDougall]

I think there is a pretty decent chance that this is making Axe town. Axe picking a tunnel and spam pushing it this way is townie, and so is thinking he has some bs tell read on me.

then nook has to be mafia fypov? or else jay/c4 hammer

Is Jay even at his computer?

[Hally]

What, are votes locked?

no, they can unvote

[Hally]

I think there is a pretty decent chance that this is making Axe town. Axe picking a tunnel and spam pushing it this way is townie, and so is thinking he has some bs tell read on me.

then nook has to be mafia fypov? or else jay/c4 hammer

Is Jay even at his computer?

idfk

[Hally]

i assume c4 would ping him

[MacDougall]

Well if they can unvote, and Jay is not at his computer, what is the point of C4 voting me here?

If it's C4/Jay he has to wait for Jay to be responsive. If it's C4 + either of Axe/Nook then... C4 voting me here is really not going to look great for him anyway.

The only team pairing truly ruled out right now is C4/Hally..

[MacDougall]

Like we can wait until Jay makes a post and rule it C4/Jay or lose I guess.

[MacDougall]

@JaggedJimmyJay come make a post.

[Hally]

Well if they can unvote, and Jay is not at his computer, what is the point of C4 voting me here?

If it's C4/Jay he has to wait for Jay to be responsive. If it's C4 + either of Axe/Nook then... C4 voting me here is really not going to look great for him anyway.

The only team pairing truly ruled out right now is C4/Hally..

well this doesn’t help me

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

[Hally]

but from your pov, yes

[Hally]

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

thank you

[NotAnAxehole]

Lol

[MacDougall]

If Jay returns and doesn't vote me then it rules out Jay/Hally, C4/Hally and Jay/C4. So it means that there is always a mafia or two between Nanook and Axe at that point. To me anyway.

[MacDougall]

that's disappointing tbh cuz now I can't solve the way I wanted to lol.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

thank you

I'm just deciding whether I thibk c4 is outed or not lol

[MacDougall]

@Hally may you please read C4's ISO and give me a vibe check on it?

[Hally]

nook don’t vote mac

i’m really not sure he’s a wolf here and i still think you’re a villager

[Hally]

@Hally may you please read C4's ISO and give me a vibe check on it?

yea in a bit

i’m at work now so i keep having to look away

[Hally]

i think mac’s reaction here was good

[MacDougall]

Axe thinks difference check between me and mac, I think difference check between him and mac, clearly we have to kill mac

There being a difference check between me and both of you (which is how the rest of the game should perceive what just occurred), should realistically out me as town because there is very little chance there is not a mafia between you two.

[Hally]

i really think axe is always a wolf here

[MacDougall]

A collection of AI things to consider:

Today we had Nook/Axe put me at L-2 and sew some chaos.

The (relevant) wagons on D2 were:
Mac (3) - Nanook
Dizzy (3) - Jay, NotAnAxehole
NAA (2) - Hally/C4

Marmot was killed n1, but the mafia knew there was a tracker and watcher present so it was probably at least somewhat a dodge. Marmot's POE was Alison/Mac/Axe.

On day 1 Alison was hammered at 6. The only live players from that wagon are Hally and Nanook. Jay was voting Axe. Axe was voting Nanook and Mac was voting C4. All single voters. C4 did not vote, and in fact voted for the no vote option.

[MacDougall]

I think that C4 is very strongly likely to be mafia. I think that the other one is one of Axe or Nanook.

[Hally]

A collection of AI things to consider:

Today we had Nook/Axe put me at L-2 and sew some chaos.

The (relevant) wagons on D2 were:
Mac (3) - Nanook
Dizzy (3) - Jay, NotAnAxehole
NAA (2) - Hally/C4

Marmot was killed n1, but the mafia knew there was a tracker and watcher present so it was probably at least somewhat a dodge. Marmot's POE was Alison/Mac/Axe.

On day 1 Alison was hammered at 6. The only live players from that wagon are Hally and Nanook. Jay was voting Axe. Axe was voting Nanook and Mac was voting C4. All single voters. C4 did not vote, and in fact voted for the no vote option.

i only hammered because alison asked and nobody objected (including jay)

i clearly wanted NAA though and even asked alison to vote him with me

[Hally]

really this entire game has been me being like “axe is a wolf” and being ignored

so lol everyone if he’s a wolf

[MacDougall]

@c4e5g3d5 really would like to hear from you.

[Hally]

I think that C4 is very strongly likely to be mafia. I think that the other one is one of Axe or Nanook.

c4/nook is never the team imo

if c4 is a wolf it’s always with NAA i think

[Hally]

c4’s posts so far today have not been good

[MacDougall]

Fine C4 and NAA is the team then. That was what I'd arrived to anyway. It's also what Jay's first instinct was today too so meh. I'm fine with it.

[c4e5g3d5]

My read on wilgy is predicated on the density of his posting and that I thought he was softing bp early in the game if its now just based on density idk if I believe it or not but I feel like I've come too far to change my mind now

Don't super love that he rescinded the claim before he could get nked tho lol

Why would you make him claim again wtf

Anyways I hard CC put me over today idc

Why would you make him claim again wtf

Because he's about to get chopped

HE ALREADY CLAIMED DONT FUCKING MAKE HIM DO IT AGAIN JESUS CHRIST

can't stand the fps claims

And I can't stand mechanical incompetence, yet here we fucking are

Anyways I hard CC put me over today idc

then vote wilgy

No we should never kill either of us

wtf are u doin pal

My best

Nook is town.

Nook pretending not to know Wilgy's the princess as intricately as he did in the highlighted post is a step wolves just skip. It doesn't make it look any more like a swap at a glance, and it's maybe the most effective thing he can do to pull the swap off if he's town.
Nook's handling of the swap is just really tonally raw and under the time pressure of EoD. Reads like he really thought he could salvage the swap last second with that first post.

Nook is town.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

nook don’t vote mac

i’m really not sure he’s a wolf here and i still think you’re a villager

I'm gonna vote who I think is most likely mafia before I go to bed lol

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Axe thinks difference check between me and mac, I think difference check between him and mac, clearly we have to kill mac

There being a difference check between me and both of you (which is how the rest of the game should perceive what just occurred), should realistically out me as town because there is very little chance there is not a mafia between you two.

That logic only holds for you lol

[Hally]

nook don’t vote mac

i’m really not sure he’s a wolf here and i still think you’re a villager

I'm gonna vote who I think is most likely mafia before I go to bed lol

yes i’m aware you won’t listen to me but i still feel obligated to try lol

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I also like doing things I know are a waste of time

[c4e5g3d5]

If y'all are really all in on this team

Alison never doesn't tunnel me sometime before EoD1 when I wolf against her. She cleared me this game.
Hally's been snap calling my alignment SoD1 every game since like July. Guess what they did this game?

There's literally one dead villager that didn't have me as almost clear.

I'm miles out of my wolf range. I never come up with my Alison read as a wolf. I never come up with my Jay read as a wolf. I never come up with my Dizzy read as a wolf. I never handle Dizzy's soft like that as a wolf. I'm not proud of it, but I can never case that much town that intricately as a wolf.

There are plenty of games where I deserve to be MLed, and then there's this game. Please.

[MacDougall]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/se ... d=13995075

C4's ISO as mafia (that won) in the mentor/mentee game on MU. Just putting here to clarify his claim that he's miles out of his wolf range.

[MacDougall]

If y'all are really all in on this team

Alison never doesn't tunnel me sometime before EoD1 when I wolf against her. She cleared me this game.
Hally's been snap calling my alignment SoD1 every game since like July. Guess what they did this game?

There's literally one dead villager that didn't have me as almost clear.

I'm miles out of my wolf range. I never come up with my Alison read as a wolf. I never come up with my Jay read as a wolf. I never come up with my Dizzy read as a wolf. I never handle Dizzy's soft like that as a wolf. I'm not proud of it, but I can never case that much town that intricately as a wolf.

There are plenty of games where I deserve to be MLed, and then there's this game. Please.

I mean obviously self towncases are biased but

I pushed both wolves
The second got tilted at me
Every wolf-killed villager has had me as town

I can just tell you to look at these things yourselves

[MacDougall]

If y'all are really all in on this team

Alison never doesn't tunnel me sometime before EoD1 when I wolf against her. She cleared me this game.
Hally's been snap calling my alignment SoD1 every game since like July. Guess what they did this game?

There's literally one dead villager that didn't have me as almost clear.

I'm miles out of my wolf range. I never come up with my Alison read as a wolf. I never come up with my Jay read as a wolf. I never come up with my Dizzy read as a wolf. I never handle Dizzy's soft like that as a wolf. I'm not proud of it, but I can never case that much town that intricately as a wolf.

There are plenty of games where I deserve to be MLed, and then there's this game. Please.

What Alison read. What Jay read. What Dizzy read. What Dizzy soft. I recall no intricate case making from you.