Yes. Large-ish post near the start of the phase.
It's you > Porscha > Jack > Dizzy = Lag
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No, you won't. Cause I'm town and I'm unyeetable and you're town and you're smart enough not to and I'm cute enough not to be yeeted and it's a silly thing to suggest in the first place.
If I'm in a f3 with porscha and someone else I honestly have no clue how I would vote because I can't let porscha win this as a wolf in my mind because they've derped 10 times over the limit for actual derps, have blatantly played dumb, and have had like 50 perspective slips and yet
Because it doesn't feel like that. It's like....misused plinko tell.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:47 pmYeah, but.. she’s pretty open about that?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:19 pmAll of this (not just this post but the several posts leading up to it) just reads as a wolf trying to convince a townie.Mizery wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:13 am It's not the fact it happened
It's what specifically tilted me
And I think that that might be something you just don't look at
All of your arguments have been completely meta based
Like this one
You don't look at what specifically tilted me or what my reaction was
You instead look at the pure amounts of times you have seen me be tilted
And that is objectively wolfy
There's no real consideration of Lag. Instead, things get stretched to shade Lag as wolfy but it never looks like Miz believes Lag could be a wolf for a second.
Why is it not “You’re being a cod. I think you’re probably town. But the way you approach me makes me paranoid and also hope you’re not.”
I’ve been there plenty of times.
That's ridiculous.
i call it addJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:05 pm I don't remember what it actually is but your reads feel like they shift in unnatural directions rather than having a logical throughline.
Every time you claim to be unyeetable it makes me wolf-read you a little bit more.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:57 pmNo, you won't. Cause I'm town and I'm unyeetable and you're town and you're smart enough not to and I'm cute enough not to be yeeted and it's a silly thing to suggest in the first place.
I always said my townread on you wasn't very strong and wasn't really based on anything, just a pure gut feel. It's not like "oh I forgot I'm supposed to be townreading Mizery" it's like "the situation has changed and my reason for lightly townreading Mizery is now gone and even if it wasn't, I now have new reasons to scumread Mizery and even if I didn't, my original reason for townreading Mizery is worse than my reasons for townreading everybody else itg."
I have that and my reads make sense.Mizery wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:06 pmi call it addJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:05 pm I don't remember what it actually is but your reads feel like they shift in unnatural directions rather than having a logical throughline.
This is ironic because Mizery and I are actually good friends.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:07 pm Mizery and Lag have a weird beef with each other where they both claim they have wolf meta on each other, but because it's mutual, it seems like they are incapable of speaking in the same page and just keep repeating the same points against one another. Really makes me feel one is full of shit because otherwise I think they might have arrived at a common ground after all this time.
And I don't think it's Lag who is more likely to be full of shit.
You've get over it.
Because my personality is orange in the read lists. I am an naturally suspicious person. You can suspect me all you fucking want but I'm unyeetable because at the end of the day, when you line up my posts with Mizery's, you can plainly see that one of us has a wolf agenda and one of us is interested in finding scum.
Fair enough.Mizery wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:11 pm I don't have wolf meta on lag
I never claimed to have wolf meta
my one meta comment this game has been that lag ignoring the why and looking at the what is objectively wolfy but maybe it's towny for them since they are the kind of person who relies on meta and mech to solve games, and this is a mountainous game.
Yeah I can totally see it, with the joke posts you both make, yet it seems there is some chasm there in this game.Lag wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:11 pmThis is ironic because Mizery and I are actually good friends.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:07 pm Mizery and Lag have a weird beef with each other where they both claim they have wolf meta on each other, but because it's mutual, it seems like they are incapable of speaking in the same page and just keep repeating the same points against one another. Really makes me feel one is full of shit because otherwise I think they might have arrived at a common ground after all this time.
And I don't think it's Lag who is more likely to be full of shit.
Borderline ready to just sheep this
Ftr, this was partly wishful thinking but mostly Arc being like "Falcon was tagging me asking me to hammer him" felt like an honest post game reveal. It was a good troll. I don't expect you to townread me off that because it's waaaaaaay too easy for me to fake as a wolf but that's what was going through my brain at the time.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:17 pmI’m a little bit suss that you though the game was over when Arc claimed, and others were questioning if he was trolling.
Fake claiming mafia as you go down as town is one of the oldest tricks in the book. I’m sure you’re aware of that.
The very last game I played, Alison faked mafia when she was chopped as town on D1. Hally who was mafia pretended to buy it, which I called out the next day. Cause I was watching irt as it happened, and felt it was pretty obvious that Alison had faked.
I wasn’t surprised to find that Arc did the same.
Please read lag's posts this cycle which are basically all about me and tell me if it looks like they're even trying to solve meDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:14 pmFair enough.Mizery wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:11 pm I don't have wolf meta on lag
I never claimed to have wolf meta
my one meta comment this game has been that lag ignoring the why and looking at the what is objectively wolfy but maybe it's towny for them since they are the kind of person who relies on meta and mech to solve games, and this is a mountainous game.
My point still stands though, the thunderdome between you two feels wrong in some way.
Yeah.
if lag is town then this is the only second time we've been v/v in like 10 games fyiDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:16 pmYeah I can totally see it, with the joke posts you both make, yet it seems there is some chasm there in this game.Lag wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:11 pmThis is ironic because Mizery and I are actually good friends.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:07 pm Mizery and Lag have a weird beef with each other where they both claim they have wolf meta on each other, but because it's mutual, it seems like they are incapable of speaking in the same page and just keep repeating the same points against one another. Really makes me feel one is full of shit because otherwise I think they might have arrived at a common ground after all this time.
And I don't think it's Lag who is more likely to be full of shit.
Remember that one time I was just certain Mist was a wolf and then Mist flipped town and I was like lost and I aaaaaaaalmost got yeeted because of it?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:06 pm I have my own reasons for thinking it’s not Mizery. The only thing that stands out to me in a negative way is that in interactions fmpov, she doesn’t feel like she makes an effort to understand where I’m coming from. Like she doesn’t want to find reasons that I’m town, rather that I could be anything. There’s probably a better way to explain this. In any case, I could actually see it as some kind of stubbornness or something. It doesn’t feel like she’s spent a lot of time trying to solve me tbh. That’s how it feels to me. I think it could easily just be it resulting in something anti-town rather than intentionally scummy. There’s little things I’ve noticed that makes me feel Mizery is town, from HK and herself. I might be wrong, but I kind of have to decide on something at this point.
Possibly unimportant but what exactly are you saying, here?Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:00 pmthis genuinely happened with another interaction mac had with someone last game too. maybe falcon lolRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:49 pmthis feels performativefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:51 pmSo telling me to just die has a stifling affect on discussion...you know thisMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:11 pmshow me where you've said anything to me I should have engaged with differently given I'm town?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:10 pmRude.
Also, odd that you seemingly don't want me to keep engaging you...is it because you know there's no spew to be had?
Okay so....Porscha knew there was a wolf aligned 3P who the wolf team didn't know the identity of prior to the derp clear.
She said she forgot that HK flipped 3p laterJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:37 pmOkay so....Porscha knew there was a wolf aligned 3P who the wolf team didn't know the identity of prior to the derp clear.
I don't think it really matters. I've maintained that it's NAI this whole time and this doesn't really change that but it sticks out and is worth noting.
Yeah that was something that I thought about after making the commentJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:36 pmI mean, Mizery has floated around the edge of the POE all game and other people got yeeted first and I don't think that magically makes her town.
You can make the same town argument for DDL and me. Unless you plan on voting Lag (which I don't recommend), is there a reason Mizery and only Mizery gets the prize for that?
Idk if misery is above you in Poe, I just sheeped mac tbhJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:40 pmWhy? What's the scummiest thing I've done? What's the strongest reason to believe I'm aligned with Falcon, have tmi, etc?
Or if there isn't one, what's the strongest reason to put Mizery above me in the POE?
I'd be thrilled if I got this far
Okay sorry I could have said "tunneling lag isnt the move" and it would have been the same
Inb4 I never get killed so I make it to f3 and get canned for this reasonMizery wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:59 pmIf I'm in a f3 with porscha and someone else I honestly have no clue how I would vote because I can't let porscha win this as a wolf in my mind because they've derped 10 times over the limit for actual derps, have blatantly played dumb, and have had like 50 perspective slips and yet
Mac and I think falcon had a genuine interaction just like that in a recent game. I was trying to say I didnt think it was performativeJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:33 pmPossibly unimportant but what exactly are you saying, here?Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:00 pmthis genuinely happened with another interaction mac had with someone last game too. maybe falcon lolRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:49 pmthis feels performativefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:51 pmSo telling me to just die has a stifling affect on discussion...you know thisMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:11 pmshow me where you've said anything to me I should have engaged with differently given I'm town?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:10 pmRude.
Also, odd that you seemingly don't want me to keep engaging you...is it because you know there's no spew to be had?
I cant read falcon well so I just let the crowd decide what to do with him I really didnt care either way lolJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:41 pm Porscha has basically no interactions with Falcon all of D1. That's odd. Idk what to do with that. Keep going I suppose.
I think I started to and gave up cuz I wasnt finding anything that stuck out to meJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:51 pm So far, there's nothing in Porscha's iso that kicks me off of my "This is probably town but it isn't impossible for this to be mafia" read.
Did you ever do this btw?
Probably cause I'm super townie, right?Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:22 pmI think I started to and gave up cuz I wasnt finding anything that stuck out to meJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:51 pm So far, there's nothing in Porscha's iso that kicks me off of my "This is probably town but it isn't impossible for this to be mafia" read.
Did you ever do this btw?