Dr. Who Mafia - Night 12

[Epignosis]

Civilians will lose. They don't understand gaming.

Good. I think it's funny.

What are you talking about?

I mean exactly what I said. Civilians will lose.

Game theory.

[Marmot]

Snow, how the hell can you justify TWO recruiter roles?
What are you basing this belief on?

Chris, do you see the irony?

I do, actually.

But I agree with Snow Dog.

[Marmot]

Blooper, thanks for the response. It seems genuine enough, although I'm still going to keep an eye on you. I still have a few pages left to read through, but I've got to go to dinner right now and don't want to miss a vote. For now I'm going to stick my vote on Elo. I do see the suspicion behind Bass, and do think he will probably turn up bad. I approve of him being lynched tonight. However, due to the fact that Elo still hasn't responded to me, AND the fact that it looks like she can potentially be the master, I'm gonna put my vote there to hopefully try to get a response out of her. I'm in a rush right now, but I have a few less-urgent things to say when I get back.

Don't do that. A lynch was switched yesterday.

[Tangrowth]

Civilians will lose. They don't understand gaming.

Good. I think it's funny.

What are you talking about?

I mean exactly what I said. Civilians will lose.

Game theory.

I'm afraid I don't understand.

[Chris]

In this two recruiter world, do the civvies even have a chance of winning?

[Marmot]

Civilians will lose. They don't understand gaming.

Good. I think it's funny.

Are you a civ?

[Chris]

Blooper, thanks for the response. It seems genuine enough, although I'm still going to keep an eye on you. I still have a few pages left to read through, but I've got to go to dinner right now and don't want to miss a vote. For now I'm going to stick my vote on Elo. I do see the suspicion behind Bass, and do think he will probably turn up bad. I approve of him being lynched tonight. However, due to the fact that Elo still hasn't responded to me, AND the fact that it looks like she can potentially be the master, I'm gonna put my vote there to hopefully try to get a response out of her. I'm in a rush right now, but I have a few less-urgent things to say when I get back.

Don't do that. A lynch was switched yesterday.

I know. I was thinking, "Shit, this looks awfully fucking familiar"

It's ok, I kinda agree with Epig. I think we're fucked.

[Epignosis]

Here's how I know civilians will lose.

They will vote the safest member: Bass. And they will lynch him. Super.

If Bass is not a recruiter, or recruited, or The Master, then the numbers are against you.

Guys, I design games. I live for this shit. You HAVE to play two sides against another. I have never seen this done.

Right now? Civilians are fucked.

[Marmot]

16 players out of 31 total remain.

At least 5 known baddies have been killed out of 9 known baddies.

1 secret role out of 3 have been revealed.



I don't think we can consider ourselves fucked in the butthole until AT LEAST after today's lynch.

Linkie: Do you propose we listen to you Epi?

[Tangrowth]

Yeah... Epig, you seem to be implying you're not a civilian... and that you believe Bass is not any of those possibilities.

I don't see how we're fucked.

[Epignosis]

Linkie: Do you propose we listen to you Epi?

No. Never listen to me. I'm stupid.

YES LISTEN TO ME.

[Chris]

16 players out of 31 total remain.

At least 5 known baddies have been killed out of 9 known baddies.

1 secret role out of 3 have been revealed.



I don't think we can consider ourselves fucked in the butthole until AT LEAST after today's lynch.

Linkie: Do you propose we listen to you Epi?

Did you forget about the 4 recruits, recruited guy?

[Epignosis]

Yeah... Epig, you seem to be implying you're not a civilian... and that you believe Bass is not any of those possibilities.

I don't see how we're fucked.

I imply nothing. I just said civilians are fucked.

According to my spreadsheet, that's true. I'm sorry I don't say things like "We civs" or what have you.

No, I'm not sorry.

[Marmot]

Did you forget about the 4 recruits, recruited guy?

Yes and no. Tbh, you don't know how many recruits there are unless you are one of them. Don't list it as fact please.

[Chris]

Did you forget about the 4 recruits, recruited guy?

Yes and no. Tbh, you don't know how many recruits there are unless you are one of them. Don't list it as fact please.

Well, that's a convenient thing for a recruited guy to say.

Let's think about it.

Would the recruiter recruit every day? No. That would be silly. It's got to be every other day.

Ok. 1, 3, 5, 7, 9. That's 5.

Ok. 2, 4, 6, 8, 10. That's 5 too!

Minus 1 for a dead Roxy, and you've got 4.

How's that for fact?

[S~V~S]

But I have never seen a game where there isn't a possibility of failed recruitments. Blocks, some roles unrecruitable, etc.

[Tangrowth]

But I have never seen a game where there isn't a possibility of failed recruitments. Blocks, some roles unrecruitable, etc.

Precisely.

It's really dumb to count the game as over or even NEAR over with this many players left, and so much unknown, IMO.

[Epignosis]

With all the role claiming going on, what would happen if you lynched me?

How ironic would it be, with all the bullshit lie detector shit I had to go through?

[S~V~S]

Also nothing is a fact unless Bea or bwt posted it.

[Marmot]

Here's how I know civilians will lose.

They will vote the safest member: Bass. And they will lynch him. Super.

If Bass is not a recruiter, or recruited, or The Master, then the numbers are against you.

Guys, I design games. I live for this shit. You HAVE to play two sides against another. I have never seen this done.

Right now? Civilians are fucked.

You've already stated that DF could be the Master OR the Cyber Controller, and also that the Master can be one of four people. Why are you so certain that is truer than Bass being a Cyber? I will admit Bass is an easy target, if only because there are still 3 Cybers left. It is very possible that the switch was meant to throw us all off with Bass being a civ, but I don't know.

I have pondered switching my vote to DF today. Especially because MP and Chris, I am (more) willing to trust. But you are still questionable to me.

[Chris]

Jesus... really?

On day 6, we saw a recruited MetalMarsh.

On day 7 we saw a recruited Roxy.

Is it really tough to imagine that recruits are happening every other day?

Anyway, I'm done. I told y'all that I was throwing my all behind the DF lynch.

From here, I vote Snow next if he's alive. After that, I'll vote the popular vote until the end of the game.

[Dom]

Did you forget about the 4 recruits, recruited guy?

Yes and no. Tbh, you don't know how many recruits there are unless you are one of them. Don't list it as fact please.

Well, that's a convenient thing for a recruited guy to say.

Let's think about it.

Would the recruiter recruit every day? No. That would be silly. It's got to be every other day.

Ok. 1, 3, 5, 7, 9. That's 5.

Ok. 2, 4, 6, 8, 10. That's 5 too!

Minus 1 for a dead Roxy, and you've got 4.

How's that for fact?

Night.... kills?

[Marmot]

Did you forget about the 4 recruits, recruited guy?

Yes and no. Tbh, you don't know how many recruits there are unless you are one of them. Don't list it as fact please.

Well, that's a convenient thing for a recruited guy to say.

Let's think about it.

Would the recruiter recruit every day? No. That would be silly. It's got to be every other day.

Ok. 1, 3, 5, 7, 9. That's 5.

Ok. 2, 4, 6, 8, 10. That's 5 too!

Minus 1 for a dead Roxy, and you've got 4.

How's that for fact?

Oh yes, every player can be recruited, and it has a 100% success rate, and the recruiter is still alive...

Just sayin'

[S~V~S]

Its weird, I feel like both Epi & Chris are trying to scare us into voting for who they want us to vote for.

[Tangrowth]

I definitely don't appreciate the scare tactics happening up in here.

There are 16 living players at the moment. Really, folks?

[Epignosis]

Its weird, I feel like both Epi & Chris are trying to scare us into voting for who they want us to vote for.

Do what you like. I'm not trying to scare anyone.

[Dom]

Its weird, I feel like both Epi & Chris are trying to scare us into voting for who they want us to vote for.

this

[Tangrowth]

Its weird, I feel like both Epi & Chris are trying to scare us into voting for who they want us to vote for.

Do what you like. I'm not trying to scare anyone.

LOL, how is "civilians are fucked" not scaring anyone?

We don't even know if the recruiter is still alive, we don't know if the recruiter has been blocked, we don't even know how often the recruiter recruits, and there are so many unanswered questions... those are just about the possible recruiter role.

Do I need to get Milton Friedman back in here to talk ironically about unrealistic assumptions?

[bea]

Find the evol among you! BR and LC command it!!

Poll runs till Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:35 pm
You may select 1 option

Bass
10
keys56000000000 (1), S~V~S (2), Dom (7), Hedgeowl (8), juliets (9), Metalmarsh89 (12), DFaraday (15), zeek (17), MovingPictures07 (18), nijuukyugou (21)
43%

Chris
0
No votes

Dana
0
No votes

Dfarada
4
Epignosis (6), Chris (16), Bass_the_Clever (19), Snow Dog (20)
17%

Dom
0
No votes

Elo
1
Gotrees (23)
4%

Epi
0
No votes

Gotrees
0
No votes

Hedgey
0
No votes

JC
0
No votes

Keys
0
No votes

Metalnewt
0
No votes

MP
0
No votes

Ninjablooper
0
No votes

Snowy
0
No votes

Zeek.
0
No votes

A Friday off with no beer money.
8
Roxy (3), sabie12 (4), Black Rock (5), birdwithteeth11 (10), fingersplints (11), Spacedaisy (13), thellama73 (14), bea (22)
35%

[keys56000000000]

Its weird, I feel like both Epi & Chris are trying to scare us into voting for who they want us to vote for.

I don't feel that way. I think they're just crazy. Batshit, fuckballs crazy.

[Tangrowth]

Its weird, I feel like both Epi & Chris are trying to scare us into voting for who they want us to vote for.

I don't feel that way. I think they're just crazy. Batshit, fuckballs crazy.

[Marmot]

I'm just glad that Epi still enjoys mafia, even if he knows he's screwed, or even if it's all BS.

Lol, MP. Just because you know you'll be around 'til the endgame doesn't mean we all will.

[Epignosis]

Its weird, I feel like both Epi & Chris are trying to scare us into voting for who they want us to vote for.

Do what you like. I'm not trying to scare anyone.

LOL, how is "civilians are fucked" not scaring anyone?

We don't even know if the recruiter is still alive, we don't know if the recruiter has been blocked, we don't even know how often the recruiter recruits, and there are so many unanswered questions... those are just about the possible recruiter role.

Do I need to get Milton Friedman back in here to talk ironically about unrealistic assumptions?

First, look at your Hall of Fame. How many civilians win? None. They won't win here either.

And you don't know. I know things.

[bea]

does this mean you would like more time to talk? Or should I just get on with it?
I'm ready to go if you are.

[Chris]

Night.... kills?

I don't think LC or BR were recruited. No evidence. No facts. Just gut feels.

I suppose Daisy could have been, it was night 5.

Splints was killed on night 3, so perhaps. That would be mad early and lucky for a recruit to be NKed.

What other NK could have been? Zeek? He's alive.

In my mind, most, if not all recruits are alive. Except Roxy.

Like Epig, I'm not trying to scare anyone. I don't know what his plans are, but I just think that we're going through the motions after this point.

That's all. Read into that what you'd like.

[Tangrowth]

Its weird, I feel like both Epi & Chris are trying to scare us into voting for who they want us to vote for.

Do what you like. I'm not trying to scare anyone.

LOL, how is "civilians are fucked" not scaring anyone?

We don't even know if the recruiter is still alive, we don't know if the recruiter has been blocked, we don't even know how often the recruiter recruits, and there are so many unanswered questions... those are just about the possible recruiter role.

Do I need to get Milton Friedman back in here to talk ironically about unrealistic assumptions?

First, look at your Hall of Fame. How many civilians win? None. They won't win here either.

And you don't know. I know things.

Why, because you're a role checker or on a team with a role checker?

[Tangrowth]

does this mean you would like more time to talk? Or should I just get on with it?
I'm ready to go if you are.

I vote post the post!

[Epignosis]

does this mean you would like more time to talk? Or should I just get on with it?
I'm ready to go if you are.

Get on with it bea. Show these fools.

I'm drinking.

[Tangrowth]

does this mean you would like more time to talk? Or should I just get on with it?
I'm ready to go if you are.

Get on with it bea. Show these fools.

I'm drinking.

I couldn't tell.

[Chris]

does this mean you would like more time to talk? Or should I just get on with it?
I'm ready to go if you are.

Get on with it bea. Show these fools.

I'm drinking smoking.

^^ This

[bea]

I wish I was epi.

Have two more for me. I like that farmhouse read - good call sir!

[keys56000000000]

The Recruiter might have only gained the ability to recruit mid-game. And there are bound to be roles that cannot be recruited.

Bea: post plz

[Marmot]

Fuck it, I'm keeping my vote where it is. I'm ready.

Alex, make sure you get all your studying done so you can sit for the speed game tomorrow. I know I'll have to.

[Tangrowth]

Fuck it, I'm keeping my vote where it is. I'm ready.

Alex, make sure you get all your studying done so you can sit for the speed game tomorrow. I know I'll have to.

Yeah... today was supposed to be homework day.

[Epignosis]

Its weird, I feel like both Epi & Chris are trying to scare us into voting for who they want us to vote for.

Do what you like. I'm not trying to scare anyone.

LOL, how is "civilians are fucked" not scaring anyone?

We don't even know if the recruiter is still alive, we don't know if the recruiter has been blocked, we don't even know how often the recruiter recruits, and there are so many unanswered questions... those are just about the possible recruiter role.

Do I need to get Milton Friedman back in here to talk ironically about unrealistic assumptions?

First, look at your Hall of Fame. How many civilians win? None. They won't win here either.

And you don't know. I know things.

Why, because you're a role checker or on a team with a role checker?

I just saw this and I'm about to bitch slap you to WOMENS WEEPS.

[Tangrowth]

First, look at your Hall of Fame. How many civilians win? None. They won't win here either.

And you don't know. I know things.

Why, because you're a role checker or on a team with a role checker?

I just saw this and I'm about to bitch slap you to WOMENS WEEPS.

[Marmot]

I just saw this and I'm about to bitch slap you to WOMENS WEEPS.

Aren't we already there?

[Chris]

[bea]

Everyone was very sad to loose the root-tootin'est family that ever lived last night. Today they were out for revenge. And blood. So much fire and passion all around the debates. As usual, The Doctor sat by carelessly wondering if they'd ever figure out what they were doing. "I try to help them," he thought, "but it's so difficult to get a good sonic read on anyone with all this interfearance from the Valeyard. Still I have a trick or two up my sleve!"

Meanwhile the mob began to form. Most people thought Bass was the baddest of bad. There was some debate about Snowy and DF as well, but by and large the concensius was reached that Bass would most definately fill their need for revenge against all these horrible murders.

They took Bass up to the gallows to hang him. He begged them over and over they were making a mistake till finally he just accepted his fate. He quietly let them put the noose around his neck and waited for the door to drop open.

Except it didn't.



The Doctor saw the jam in the mechanism and took advantage of people being distracted by the vocal stylings of Capt. Jack Harkness to tinker with the jam and right the wrong committed here today. As the song ended, the door dropped open and down fell Bass.

Ghost Bass looked on at his dangling body twisting in the wind. "That was anti-climactic." He thought. He felt a tap on his shoulder.
Ghost Roxy and Ghost Sabie were behind him, smiling.

"Come on Bass, let's be content in death. Bea and Teefies have quite a spread set up for us here." Ghost Roxy said.

The three entered the nethersphere.



Bass has been Lynched. He was the Cyber Controler! Night will end in 22 hours. (Roughly 9 pm EST) please try to have your PM's in no later than 8:30 est (a half hour before night end.) The poll will not give an accurate ending time for Night THE TRUE END TIME FOR NIGHT 10 IS 9 PM EST.

Effective Immediately - LC will be replacing Dana. He is immune from targets Night 10 and cannot be lynched Day 11. Thank you for stepping back in LC!

[Tangrowth]

DAMMIT. Why, Bass, why???