Kid's Birthday Party Mafia Game Over

[Sabiplz]

I'm kinda drunk and sun burnt.

Ama while I try to muster energy for going out.

how's Orlando

I'm in Miami rn with some college friends.

Orlando was fine. Good to see everyone.

I need to go back to Chicago this week lol

[robyn]

I'm kinda drunk and sun burnt.

Ama while I try to muster energy for going out.

how's Orlando

I'm in Miami rn with some college friends.

Orlando was fine. Good to see everyone.

I need to go back to Chicago this week lol

have you done lsd or coke before

[Sabiplz]

I'm kinda drunk and sun burnt.

Ama while I try to muster energy for going out.

how's Orlando

I'm in Miami rn with some college friends.

Orlando was fine. Good to see everyone.

I need to go back to Chicago this week lol

have you done lsd or coke before

Yes.

Can you give me a vibe check on all the players?

Thots on Esooa and Alison and Nook and Marmot

[falcon45ca]

Alison's posts after EoD are weird, removing her from my town

Wilgy/Falcon/JJJ/Sabi/Marmot town

What are your thoughts on lucy and the "Alison and JJJ are town, best players here, and Maf aren't worried about them" read of hers?



There are some very strong players here...yourself, Nook, Marmot, Wilgy...there's no lightweights. It's a strange take IMO

[falcon45ca]

I'm kinda drunk and sun burnt.

Ama while I try to muster energy for going out.

how's Orlando

I'm in Miami rn with some college friends.

Orlando was fine. Good to see everyone.

I need to go back to Chicago this week lol

have you done lsd or coke before

WTF does this have to do with the price of eggs in China?


Is the thread state you need in order to hunt wolves?

[Esooa]

Alison's posts after EoD are weird, removing her from my town

Wilgy/Falcon/JJJ/Sabi/Marmot town

What are your thoughts on lucy and the "Alison and JJJ are town, best players here, and Maf aren't worried about them" read of hers?



There are some very strong players here...yourself, Nook, Marmot, Wilgy...there's no lightweights. It's a strange take IMO

Don't think much of it, she doesn't know most people I'm p sure

[Esooa]

Maybe she does I guess though, but idc much to think about it, regardless she's PoE

[robyn]

Alison's posts after EoD are weird, removing her from my town

Wilgy/Falcon/JJJ/Sabi/Marmot town

What are your thoughts on lucy and the "Alison and JJJ are town, best players here, and Maf aren't worried about them" read of hers?



There are some very strong players here...yourself, Nook, Marmot, Wilgy...there's no lightweights. It's a strange take IMO

killed outside of this completely nonetheless, methinks my point stands

[robyn]

[VOTE: Esooa] aubergine

[Sabiplz]

Lucy stop ignoring my questions

[robyn]

Lucy stop ignoring my questions

gatekeep gaslight girlboss

[Sabiplz]

Lucy stop ignoring my questions

gatekeep gaslight girlboss

I hate teenagers and gen z

[Sabiplz]

I did have a train ride nap dream that Wilgz was wolf with sparkles.

[Alison]

Everyone is cleared town except for lucy and Jay. Game is solved.

[Alison]

I guess I could see Nanook as mafia but only if I stretch.

[robyn]

Everyone is cleared town except for lucy and Jay. Game is solved.

answer me this, how does an OW nightkill benefit me, give me one reason

[Alison]

Everyone is cleared town except for lucy and Jay. Game is solved.

answer me this, how does an OW nightkill benefit me, give me one reason

How does killing a spewed town benefit a wolf? Hmm, gee, I dunno.

[robyn]

Everyone is cleared town except for lucy and Jay. Game is solved.

answer me this, how does an OW nightkill benefit me, give me one reason

How does killing a spewed town benefit a wolf? Hmm, gee, I dunno.

shit argument, how do I vote someone for wagonomics, then kill that person clearing them as town 100%, that NK directly gets me killed, you do understand the optics there, right?

[Alison]

Here is the brief summary of why everyone else is town. Ping me if you need specific explanation on each case.

Sabiplz - Out of their wolf range, gains nothing by pushing me yesterday. Tried to veto one of the only other alternative exes to Sparkles. Sparkles blatantly tried to pocket and manipulate them.

DrWilgy - Broke out of their slanker meta, unlikely for them to do so as wolf. Signal boosted my scumread on Sparkles. No reason at all for them to do a complete 180 on their read on me (from wolfreading me to townreading me) when Sparkles was in danger and I was scumreading her.

Esooa - Had the exact same reads as me all game, shielded me when people were distrustful, tunnelled lucy all day but switched to Sparkles on a dime. My personal sense is that she'd powerwolf in this scenario too.

falcon45a - Absurdly townie, voted a mafia. Both me and Esooa godread him town.

Marmot - Sparkles was practically on her knees begging him to switch his vote from her (mafia) to me (town)... and he responded by saying "that's manipulative, ima vote you". Obvious town.

[Alison]

The case for Nanook being town relies on the fact that he leashed his vote to Wilgy's. In a Nanook mafia world, he would be essentially committing to sheeping a strong and loud townie, which is a pretty anti-wolf thing to do. He also took the time to dig up lucy meta that confirms her claims (thus making her look better) and showing it to me at a point in time that lucy was the only real alternative to Sparkles. I think if he was mafia with Sparkles he'd be happy to let me run lucy down.

[robyn]

Here is the brief summary of why everyone else is town. Ping me if you need specific explanation on each case.

Sabiplz - Out of their wolf range, gains nothing by pushing me yesterday. Tried to veto one of the only other alternative exes to Sparkles. Sparkles blatantly tried to pocket and manipulate them.

DrWilgy - Broke out of their slanker meta, unlikely for them to do so as wolf. Signal boosted my scumread on Sparkles. No reason at all for them to do a complete 180 on their read on me (from wolfreading me to townreading me) when Sparkles was in danger and I was scumreading her.

Esooa - Had the exact same reads as me all game, shielded me when people were distrustful, tunnelled lucy all day but switched to Sparkles on a dime. My personal sense is that she'd powerwolf in this scenario too.

falcon45a - Absurdly townie, voted a mafia. Both me and Esooa godread him town.

Marmot - Sparkles was practically on her knees begging him to switch his vote from her (mafia) to me (town)... and he responded by saying "that's manipulative, ima vote you". Obvious town.

Esooa isn't clear bucko, wigly less clear, rest yeah

[Alison]

That leaves JJJ and lucy. Jay hasn't been overtly scummy and his progression on Sparkles looks okay. He never really lead the charge against Sparkles at any time so it could just be him resigning himself to bussing. I'm surprised he hasn't dug into the Sparkle associatives since I think they immediately solve the game. Nevertheless, he is mostly in the POE because I cannot find any association that clears him.

Which leaves lucy. The person who has been playing in an extremely anti town way all of D1. If she is Sparkles' teammate, it would explain why the Sparkles wagon had hardly any resistance. She took time off her "not making any votes/reads" gimmick to slap a vote on the town counterwagon to mafia, without calling the vote. I would consider that pretty outing.

[Alison]

[v]lucy[/v]

[Alison]

[VOTE: lucy] aubergine

[Alison]

Alison's posts after EoD are weird, removing her from my town

Wilgy/Falcon/JJJ/Sabi/Marmot town

What are your thoughts on lucy and the "Alison and JJJ are town, best players here, and Maf aren't worried about them" read of hers?



There are some very strong players here...yourself, Nook, Marmot, Wilgy...there's no lightweights. It's a strange take IMO

lucy got recently snowed by an Alison/JJJ wolf team where the topic of "why didn't you just policy them when they were consensus townread but kept not dying at night" was repeatedly brought up. I'd wager this is just a reference to that and is not particularly AI either way.

[robyn]

That leaves JJJ and lucy. Jay hasn't been overtly scummy and his progression on Sparkles looks okay. He never really lead the charge against Sparkles at any time so it could just be him resigning himself to bussing. I'm surprised he hasn't dug into the Sparkle associatives since I think they immediately solve the game. Nevertheless, he is mostly in the POE because I cannot find any association that clears him.

Which leaves lucy. The person who has been playing in an extremely anti town way all of D1. If she is Sparkles' teammate, it would explain why the Sparkles wagon had hardly any resistance. She took time off her "not making any votes/reads" gimmick to slap a vote on the town counterwagon to mafia, without calling the vote. I would consider that pretty outing.

I'm a much much better wolf, the real reason I'm not mafia is cause you'd never find me this scummy d2 as scum

[Alison]

That leaves JJJ and lucy. Jay hasn't been overtly scummy and his progression on Sparkles looks okay. He never really lead the charge against Sparkles at any time so it could just be him resigning himself to bussing. I'm surprised he hasn't dug into the Sparkle associatives since I think they immediately solve the game. Nevertheless, he is mostly in the POE because I cannot find any association that clears him.

Which leaves lucy. The person who has been playing in an extremely anti town way all of D1. If she is Sparkles' teammate, it would explain why the Sparkles wagon had hardly any resistance. She took time off her "not making any votes/reads" gimmick to slap a vote on the town counterwagon to mafia, without calling the vote. I would consider that pretty outing.

I'm a much much better wolf, the real reason I'm not mafia is cause you'd never find me this scummy d2 as scum

This argument has been used seven quadrillion times since the first human stepped out of the first cave. In all that time, it has never convinced anyone.

[robyn]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ert-of-Men

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/36901

look

[robyn]

you are wrong about esooa

[robyn]

you might be wrong about wigly/nook

[Alison]

Everyone is cleared town except for lucy and Jay. Game is solved.

answer me this, how does an OW nightkill benefit me, give me one reason

How does killing a spewed town benefit a wolf? Hmm, gee, I dunno.

shit argument, how do I vote someone for wagonomics, then kill that person clearing them as town 100%, that NK directly gets me killed, you do understand the optics there, right?

Why do you do that?

So you can make the argument you're making right now.

[Alison]

I have provided my arguments about why I think Esooa, Wilgy and probably Nook are town.

If you disagree, feel free to provide reasoning to the contrary.

[robyn]

Everyone is cleared town except for lucy and Jay. Game is solved.

answer me this, how does an OW nightkill benefit me, give me one reason

How does killing a spewed town benefit a wolf? Hmm, gee, I dunno.

shit argument, how do I vote someone for wagonomics, then kill that person clearing them as town 100%, that NK directly gets me killed, you do understand the optics there, right?

Why do you do that?

So you can make the argument you're making right now.

yes, but you have to understand this is the weakest possible argument I'm left with, no?

[Sabiplz]

@Alison how do you feel about Esooa not tr-ing you anymore.

Your eid was terrible

[Sabiplz]

Eod**

Sorry I'm a hit drunk

[Alison]

@Alison how do you feel about Esooa not tr-ing you anymore.

Your eid was terrible

I don't care what she thinks because I have her as confirmed town and my POE is extremely small. You might as well ask me how I feel about your godawful tunnel on me.

[robyn]

I have provided my arguments about why I think Esooa, Wilgy and probably Nook are town.

If you disagree, feel free to provide reasoning to the contrary.

the reasoning is not sufficient in clearing them

[Sabiplz]

Alison tried to force lucy to be a cw to sparkles.

Alison weird comments in eod.

The math isn't matching.

[Alison]

Everyone is cleared town except for lucy and Jay. Game is solved.

answer me this, how does an OW nightkill benefit me, give me one reason

How does killing a spewed town benefit a wolf? Hmm, gee, I dunno.

shit argument, how do I vote someone for wagonomics, then kill that person clearing them as town 100%, that NK directly gets me killed, you do understand the optics there, right?

Why do you do that?

So you can make the argument you're making right now.

yes, but you have to understand this is the weakest possible argument I'm left with, no?

I don't care?

Like, I'm not even convinced that you wouldn't take a gamble on bad optics as wolf to get town to engage in reverse psychology. How do you even win 1v8 other than trying for some sick mind game?

This is such a bad argument. I have never accepted "the situation looks so bad for me that I cannot possibly be wolf" as an idea, and I never will, because it simply isn't true. Wolves make NKs that look terrible for them all the time.

[Alison]

Alison tried to force lucy to be a cw to sparkles.

Alison weird comments in eod.

The math isn't matching.

Apologies for forcing one mafia to be a CW to another mafia.

[robyn]

Everyone is cleared town except for lucy and Jay. Game is solved.

answer me this, how does an OW nightkill benefit me, give me one reason

How does killing a spewed town benefit a wolf? Hmm, gee, I dunno.

shit argument, how do I vote someone for wagonomics, then kill that person clearing them as town 100%, that NK directly gets me killed, you do understand the optics there, right?

Why do you do that?

So you can make the argument you're making right now.

yes, but you have to understand this is the weakest possible argument I'm left with, no?

I don't care?

Like, I'm not even convinced that you wouldn't take a gamble on bad optics as wolf to get town to engage in reverse psychology. How do you even win 1v8 other than trying for some sick mind game?

This is such a bad argument. I have never accepted "the situation looks so bad for me that I cannot possibly be wolf" as an idea, and I never will, because it simply isn't true. Wolves make NKs that look terrible for them all the time.

u won't change ur mind

[robyn]

conf bias me into oblivion and you're policied the day after, then jjj is killed the night you die

[Alison]

Also just so you know, Sparkles wouldn't even be a wagon without me. I was one of the first people to call her out and she practically begged Marmot to vote me instead of her. That you are even suspecting me right now means that you are tunnelled beyond human belief.

[robyn]

you're wrong on me and you're walking into a pretty Lynch, already have decent sus on you

[Alison]

conf bias me into oblivion and you're policied the day after, then jjj is killed the night you die

I'm down for that.

We have 4 kills before mafia wins. If it goes as you describe, and JJJ is killed, then they simply get rid of Nanook who is in my extremely tiny POE and who is also voting me. He almost always flips mafia in that situation, and if he doesn't then they have 1 more kill to find the deepwolf still.

I am more than happy to take that course of action if your prediction is correct.

[robyn]

Also just so you know, Sparkles wouldn't even be a wagon without me. I was one of the first people to call her out and she practically begged Marmot to vote me instead of her. That you are even suspecting me right now means that you are tunnelled beyond human belief.

esooa, nanook, sabi suspect you
what do you think happens after I flip town Alison?

[Alison]

you're wrong on me and you're walking into a pretty Lynch, already have decent sus on you

Town has 4 kills left before the game ends and I have a POE of 3. Why should I care if I'm the 4th? I know these people and I trust them. They aren't going to int the game after I'm gone. You making base appeals to self preservation shows how desperate you are.

[robyn]

conf bias me into oblivion and you're policied the day after, then jjj is killed the night you die

I'm down for that.

We have 4 kills before mafia wins. If it goes as you describe, and JJJ is killed, then they simply get rid of Nanook who is in my extremely tiny POE and who is also voting me. He almost always flips mafia in that situation, and if he doesn't then they have 1 more kill to find the deepwolf still.

I am more than happy to take that course of action if your prediction is correct.

me, you
next 2 lynches with NK's that are extremely clever
I wouldn't risk it

[robyn]

you're wrong on me and you're walking into a pretty Lynch, already have decent sus on you

Town has 4 kills left before the game ends and I have a POE of 3. Why should I care if I'm the 4th? I know these people and I trust them. They aren't going to int the game after I'm gone. You making base appeals to self preservation shows how desperate you are.

that's cause immediately after I flip town you can no longer save yourself, then 2 lynches left with the last 2 people in your Poe with esooa still alive

[Esooa]

I'm wolf