Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]

[DharmaHelper]

[VOTE: lorab] aubergine

Gut tells me this is stronger

Gut tells me you don't want your whole team to get found out/lynched but that ship sailed lmao

[Epignosis]

Thread is locked for approximately thirty minutes.

[Epignosis]

Day 2 Poll

Spoiler: show

Who called the Toon Patrol?

Poll ended at Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:00 pm

bea
0
No votes


Voters: None

DFaraday
0
No votes


Voters: None

DharmaHelper
4
15%


Voters: LoRab, Kate, DharmaHelper, Golden

DrWilgy
0
No votes


Voters: None

Elohcin
0
No votes


Voters: None

G-Man
0
No votes


Voters: None

Golden
0
No votes


Voters: None

Kate
0
No votes


Voters: None

thellama73
0
No votes


Voters: None

Lorab
6
23%


Voters: Sloonei, DFaraday, Elohcin, Scotty, Quin, G-Man

Michelle
0
No votes


Voters: None

NotAnAxehole
1
4%


Voters: bea

Quin
4
15%


Voters: thellama73, JaggedJimmyJay, Vivax, DrWilgy

sig
0
No votes


Voters: None

Sloonei
0
No votes


Voters: None

Eddie Valiant (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
11
42%


Voters: MacDougall, Sabiplz, Neon, nutella, fingersplints, juliets, Marmot, Matahari, S~V~S, Spacedaisy, Epignosis


Total votes: 26

[Epignosis]

That cartoon crew got loose, and now a Comedian is dead. Isn’t that funny?

But I’m not laughing.

“Markings only mean what someone interprets them to mean.”

Someone told me that once. Forget who.

But after a while the markings won’t matter. The ink that people argue about and get divorced over and start wars for, none of it will matter.

The end is coming, after all.

The streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood and when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout 'SAVE US!'...and I'll look down and whisper

Spoiler: show

Lorab has been unmasked. Lorab was Cipher.

It is now Night 2. You have until 8pm ET to submit your Night actions.

[thellama73]

Well that’s not ideal.

[DharmaHelper]

Unfortunate.

[Scotty]

Well that’s a humongous bummer. I’m sorry LoRab

[thellama73]

See what happens when you don’t listen to me and vote for Quin?

[thellama73]

@Vivax @thellama73 Quin wagon is dead. Choose Lorab or DH if you are around.

Also, I wanted to say that this attitude is why we don’t have a viable third party in the United States. You’re everything that’s wrong with democracy, Sloonei.

[DharmaHelper]

DFaraday/Kate/Vivax/Quin/Scotty is probably where I would start my hunt but what do I know.

[Kate]

Unfortunate.

Yea, it should have been you.

[DharmaHelper]

Full transparency I updated that quote,

[DharmaHelper]

Unfortunate.

Yea, it should have been you.

I encourage your team to try again.

[Scotty]

This is going to make solving that Map a huge endeavor

I was out at dinner and got back right at end of day. Just in my reread in the last 30 minutes- that felt like an unnecessarily chaotic end of day. I don’t think I would have switched off LoRab if I had the chance in the moment. But the wagon changing is something to analyze tonite. I wish someone had marked the votes in the last hour and a half or so

[Sloonei]

@Vivax @thellama73 Quin wagon is dead. Choose Lorab or DH if you are around.

Also, I wanted to say that this attitude is why we don’t have a viable third party in the United States. You’re everything that’s wrong with democracy, Sloonei.

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

[Sloonei]

Sorry Lorab.

[DharmaHelper]

Unfortunate.

Yea, it should have been you.

I guess I'll humor you and ask why, though. Just to see what you think.

[thellama73]

This is going to make solving that Map a huge endeavor

I was out at dinner and got back right at end of day. Just in my reread in the last 30 minutes- that felt like an unnecessarily chaotic end of day. I don’t think I would have switched off LoRab if I had the chance in the moment. But the wagon changing is something to analyze tonite. I wish someone had marked the votes in the last hour and a half or so

I don’t really care about solving the map. I tend to
Think those kinds of puzzles are largely a distraction from baddie hunting.

[Scotty]

I laughed out loud when I got to this in my reread:

A vote for Bea at this stage would be a total shot in the dark. That is better than voting for a town read, but it is not ideal.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

The hell was this vote, Sloonei?

[Scotty]

This is going to make solving that Map a huge endeavor

I was out at dinner and got back right at end of day. Just in my reread in the last 30 minutes- that felt like an unnecessarily chaotic end of day. I don’t think I would have switched off LoRab if I had the chance in the moment. But the wagon changing is something to analyze tonite. I wish someone had marked the votes in the last hour and a half or so

I don’t really care about solving the map. I tend to
Think those kinds of puzzles are largely a distraction from baddie hunting.

ZoidbergWhyNotBoth.jpg

[Sloonei]

I laughed out loud when I got to this in my reread:

A vote for Bea at this stage would be a total shot in the dark. That is better than voting for a town read, but it is not ideal.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

The hell was this vote, Sloonei?

DharmaHelper raised an intriguing point about Kate, and I wanted to see if he would take any action at all if I presented the opportunity to start a wagon against somebody he suspected.

He did nothing and continued to yell about how unfairly we were treating him.

[DharmaHelper]

I laughed out loud when I got to this in my reread:

A vote for Bea at this stage would be a total shot in the dark. That is better than voting for a town read, but it is not ideal.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

The hell was this vote, Sloonei?

DharmaHelper raised an intriguing point about Kate, and I wanted to see if he would take any action at all if I presented the opportunity to start a wagon against somebody he suspected.

He did nothing and continued to yell about how unfairly we were treating him.

Untrue

[Kate]

Unfortunate.

Yea, it should have been you.

I guess I'll humor you and ask why, though. Just to see what you think.

Why so you can snarkily disagree with everything I say, then put me down?

[DharmaHelper]

Unfortunate.

Yea, it should have been you.

I guess I'll humor you and ask why, though. Just to see what you think.

Why so you can snarkily disagree with everything I say, then put me down?

If you have points you should make them.

[thellama73]

This is going to make solving that Map a huge endeavor

I was out at dinner and got back right at end of day. Just in my reread in the last 30 minutes- that felt like an unnecessarily chaotic end of day. I don’t think I would have switched off LoRab if I had the chance in the moment. But the wagon changing is something to analyze tonite. I wish someone had marked the votes in the last hour and a half or so

Because the players have finite time and attention. The more time that is spent on puzzle solving, the less time is available to spend on reading and rereading the thread, forming theories, making cases, and analyzing voting records.

We already have several people barely participating. I want them focused and on message.

I don’t really care about solving the map. I tend to
Think those kinds of puzzles are largely a distraction from baddie hunting.

ZoidbergWhyNotBoth.jpg

[thellama73]

if

This is going to make solving that Map a huge endeavor

I was out at dinner and got back right at end of day. Just in my reread in the last 30 minutes- that felt like an unnecessarily chaotic end of day. I don’t think I would have switched off LoRab if I had the chance in the moment. But the wagon changing is something to analyze tonite. I wish someone had marked the votes in the last hour and a half or so

I don’t really care about solving the map. I tend to
Think those kinds of puzzles are largely a distraction from baddie hunting.

ZoidbergWhyNotBoth.jpg

Whoops, I butchered that. Let me try again.

Because the players have finite time and attention. The more time that is spent on puzzle solving, the less time is available to spend on reading and rereading the thread, forming theories, making cases, and analyzing voting records.

We already have several people barely participating. I want them focused and on message.

[Sloonei]

@Kate Care to speculate about why you were targeted by OT Green?

[thellama73]

Kate, ignore Sloonei’s question and answer mine instead. Are you bad?

[DharmaHelper]

The question you really ought to be asking is if Llama moved his vote off of me and back onto Quin genuinely or if he did that because he knew he could safely tuck in a vote for his teammate.

[Sloonei]

The question you really ought to be asking is if Llama moved his vote off of me and back onto Quin genuinely or if he did that because he knew he could safely tuck in a vote for his teammate.

Why are Llama and Quin teammates?

[DharmaHelper]

The question you really ought to be asking is if Llama moved his vote off of me and back onto Quin genuinely or if he did that because he knew he could safely tuck in a vote for his teammate.

Why are Llama and Quin teammates?

I don't know.

[Kate]

@Kate Care to speculate about why you were targeted by OT Green?

So the old school players would think I did it to myself I presume.

[Kate]

Kate, ignore Sloonei’s question and answer mine instead. Are you bad?

Very very very much not.

[Scotty]

Let’s look at a big picture:

The DH and Lorab wagons were pretty close unless I’m mistaken for most of the last 3 hours. It’s the Quin wagon that was seemingly static. I don’t know if DH is town. He was fighting for air most of the last few pages before end of day, which is probably NAI but I’m not sold on him being mafia just yet.

That Quin wagon, though. Very static. Had an Nonplayer voting there basically all day. And not just any Nonplayer. JaggedJimmyJay. The problem is, we don’t know who JJJ would be rooting for in this game. I believe he entered into BTSC with someone and also has a grasp on the game.
In a vacuum, I think JJJ is very good at rooting out scum, like a truffle pig is particular good at hunting for truffles. But who’s to say he saw the 3p eliminated early and saw the game get harder for mafia and decided to help them?
I don’t actually think that’s the case, and I think we ignored the gift that JJJ gave us in offering his opinion.

That vote was largely talked about but the implications of it were not actually considered publicly.

So anyway, I think all of this to say, I think mafia came out today to sway the thread away from Quin. I should have just stuck to my guns from yesterday.
And I am also guilty of muddying up the waters. I campaigned for LoRab’s demise, and that tunnel brought 2 competing wagons that I think were probably town/town.

Sloonei was a very active contributor in the final bits of this day, and he took it upon himself to make his vote the final pump of air in LoRab’s basketball. Could just be a flailing town trying to do right, but it could also just be making a choice who he wants to try and miselim tomorrow. Maybe DH has a better chance of going over than LoRab did.

All this to say, Sloonei and Quin are in need of scrutiny.

[Scotty]

The question you really ought to be asking is if Llama moved his vote off of me and back onto Quin genuinely or if he did that because he knew he could safely tuck in a vote for his teammate.

Why did you continue to vote yourself during the entire ordeal? It sure seemed like you were content to be the proverbial pin the tail on the donkey

[DharmaHelper]

The question you really ought to be asking is if Llama moved his vote off of me and back onto Quin genuinely or if he did that because he knew he could safely tuck in a vote for his teammate.

Why did you continue to vote yourself during the entire ordeal? It sure seemed like you were content to be the proverbial pin the tail on the donkey

Because I was content to be the proverbial pin the tail on the donkey. If the choice was "Get lynched or vote for an obviously townie LoRab" I am going to get lynched.

[DharmaHelper]

Also it was funny and it made some of the mafia tip their hands panicking trying to figure out how to end the day without getting lynched and without making their efforts to save (I assume) Quin super obvious.

[Scotty]

The question you really ought to be asking is if Llama moved his vote off of me and back onto Quin genuinely or if he did that because he knew he could safely tuck in a vote for his teammate.

Why did you continue to vote yourself during the entire ordeal? It sure seemed like you were content to be the proverbial pin the tail on the donkey

Because I was content to be the proverbial pin the tail on the donkey. If the choice was "Get lynched or vote for an obviously townie LoRab" I am going to get lynched.

That you were the only person in the thread (besides LoRab) that thought she was obviously towny just made my eyes turn inside out

[Scotty]

Also it was funny and it made some of the mafia tip their hands panicking trying to figure out how to end the day without getting lynched and without making their efforts to save (I assume) Quin super obvious.

I saw you kept saying how obvious mafia were being, and yet you weren’t pointing to said obvious mafia.

So you think Quin is obvious mafia?

[DharmaHelper]

The question you really ought to be asking is if Llama moved his vote off of me and back onto Quin genuinely or if he did that because he knew he could safely tuck in a vote for his teammate.

Why did you continue to vote yourself during the entire ordeal? It sure seemed like you were content to be the proverbial pin the tail on the donkey

Because I was content to be the proverbial pin the tail on the donkey. If the choice was "Get lynched or vote for an obviously townie LoRab" I am going to get lynched.

That you were the only person in the thread (besides LoRab) that thought she was obviously towny just made my eyes turn inside out

If I thought she was mafia I would have said so in my ISO, or voted for her to save myself.

[DharmaHelper]

Also it was funny and it made some of the mafia tip their hands panicking trying to figure out how to end the day without getting lynched and without making their efforts to save (I assume) Quin super obvious.

I saw you kept saying how obvious mafia were being, and yet you weren’t pointing to said obvious mafia.

So you think Quin is obvious mafia?

Didn't I do a whole "Here's where I would look" post like, twice?

I'm not intentionally making a joke out of "please read my posts guys" But that is pretty funny.

[Scotty]

The question you really ought to be asking is if Llama moved his vote off of me and back onto Quin genuinely or if he did that because he knew he could safely tuck in a vote for his teammate.

Why did you continue to vote yourself during the entire ordeal? It sure seemed like you were content to be the proverbial pin the tail on the donkey

Because I was content to be the proverbial pin the tail on the donkey. If the choice was "Get lynched or vote for an obviously townie LoRab" I am going to get lynched.

That you were the only person in the thread (besides LoRab) that thought she was obviously towny just made my eyes turn inside out

If I thought she was mafia I would have said so in my ISO, or voted for her to save myself.

But you chose not to vote for Quin, who is obvious mafia

[DharmaHelper]

The question you really ought to be asking is if Llama moved his vote off of me and back onto Quin genuinely or if he did that because he knew he could safely tuck in a vote for his teammate.

Why did you continue to vote yourself during the entire ordeal? It sure seemed like you were content to be the proverbial pin the tail on the donkey

Because I was content to be the proverbial pin the tail on the donkey. If the choice was "Get lynched or vote for an obviously townie LoRab" I am going to get lynched.

That you were the only person in the thread (besides LoRab) that thought she was obviously towny just made my eyes turn inside out

If I thought she was mafia I would have said so in my ISO, or voted for her to save myself.

But you chose not to vote for Quin, who is obvious mafia

Wouldn't have mattered.

[Sloonei]

The question you really ought to be asking is if Llama moved his vote off of me and back onto Quin genuinely or if he did that because he knew he could safely tuck in a vote for his teammate.

Why did you continue to vote yourself during the entire ordeal? It sure seemed like you were content to be the proverbial pin the tail on the donkey

Because I was content to be the proverbial pin the tail on the donkey. If the choice was "Get lynched or vote for an obviously townie LoRab" I am going to get lynched.

That you were the only person in the thread (besides LoRab) that thought she was obviously towny just made my eyes turn inside out

If I thought she was mafia I would have said so in my ISO, or voted for her to save myself.

But you chose not to vote for Quin, who is obvious mafia

Wouldn't have mattered.

It very much would have.

[DharmaHelper]

Why did you continue to vote yourself during the entire ordeal? It sure seemed like you were content to be the proverbial pin the tail on the donkey

Because I was content to be the proverbial pin the tail on the donkey. If the choice was "Get lynched or vote for an obviously townie LoRab" I am going to get lynched.

That you were the only person in the thread (besides LoRab) that thought she was obviously towny just made my eyes turn inside out

If I thought she was mafia I would have said so in my ISO, or voted for her to save myself.

But you chose not to vote for Quin, who is obvious mafia

Wouldn't have mattered.

It very much would have.

Six is, as I'm sure you're aware, more than 5.

[DharmaHelper]

Also victim blaming tell x2

[thellama73]

The question you really ought to be asking is if Llama moved his vote off of me and back onto Quin genuinely or if he did that because he knew he could safely tuck in a vote for his teammate.

My vote was never on you, guy. It was briefly on Lorab.

[DharmaHelper]

The question you really ought to be asking is if Llama moved his vote off of me and back onto Quin genuinely or if he did that because he knew he could safely tuck in a vote for his teammate.

My vote was never on you, guy. It was briefly on Lorab.

Your right, I confused your vote with two votes that you quoted when I was reading your posts back.

[DharmaHelper]

Was Sloonei ever interested in a Quin lynch? Is there any reason to believe Sloonei isn't bad?

[Golden]

Was Sloonei ever interested in a Quin lynch? Is there any reason to believe Sloonei isn't bad?

You’ve done isos on Sloonei.

Did you miss that Quin has been his top town read for ages? Sloonei has been very clearly and openly voting to save Quin.