Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
23 player game folks, I don't think the posting is out of control by a long shot.
we can't stop here...this is bat country!
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
idk a couple hundred? Nothing has happened and it hasn't even been 24 hours, there's no reason for the average post per player to be in the double digits at this point
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
This whole thing feels procedurally generated.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:31 pmProbably correct, though I consider myself better at playing town then mafia, and this is coming from someone who got voted out 2 times day 1 in my last 2 Syndicate games as town, while I curbstomped everyone while I was mafia somehow.
1. Incorrect, I gave this very questionable read about youLike I made the post about you voting DZ over a pun in RVS like come on.
2. I really don't think it's that hard too see but with reads like #114, #170, #199 (in fact the whole Creature push felt like pocketing Sabi's read). And then there is #339 which just feels like pocketing risinnq now? A lot of these things stuck out to me in terms of you, and to me, I would figure a better player would bring up better arguments to why people are mafia. I get wanting momentum and stuff out of RVS, it's just never my preferred approach in doing so, it feels like pushing LHF for the sake of it which I wouldn't expect a player of your or Quas' caliber to do. Also Quas has the whole thing of being very different to his mash self this game.
I just started looking a lot elsewhere, also I wanted to write that readslist at the same time I also really wanted to sleep, so that sure didn't help me go into great detail on everyone, you can tell the first one I did was risinnq-.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm He didn't follow up with a vote despite it landing me on the bottom of his reads list in 674, with a very noncommittal handwave of my early DZ read (not one of the ones Chelsea cared about afaik, so at least he's contributing something new but it feels forced especially since that was pretty inconsequential first-page stuff). He is self-aware of his hedginess and I actually kind of like that when it appears in his posts. I can relate.
The use of "sometimes" was a good hint I was getting tired and didn't wanna actually detail the read. The missing puzzle piece here that distinguishes my read on you versus my read on IAWY was me kind of liking the over-explanation on his falcon vote as opposed to everyone else and I just didn't state it because I had already mentioned that and didn't feel the need to repeat (though it probably would have been good too repeat because stand alone it's confusing).nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm Like yes he says "towny sometimes" while the only positive in my blurb is that he "liked the bluntness" but this really goes nowhere. He goes on to state that several things from IAWY are either NAI or underwhelming. Which has about the same level of neutrality as most of the blurb about me except that he was able to latch onto Chelsea's push.
I will just say this, if you are mafia nutella, you just spewed Chelsea as town after you flip.
Counterpoint, the town game I immediately brought up SK onnutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm However the primary thought in my head is actually not the idea that Cape/IAWY are w/w. It's actually that Cape is 3P. Cape may very well actually think I am mafia if so. This is a very egotistical part of the read but it's what led me there -- as mafia he'd be less likely to pressure me, because given my meta/reputation if he knows I'm not mafia I am likely to post myself clear. And he brought up 3P factions which is classically >rand 3p lol. I would generally rather hunt mafia primarily over 3p but with 3 of them I don't think we should gloss over their existence.
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2426
I suppose you can counter counter point that and say I literally said this because originally I flipped mafia and had this thought as mafia as I was reading setup, but the game got reranded. OFC I didn't say this as the game was going on cuz duh, but I did get suspicion for that.
This is my explanation for why I noticed this in this game. I am assuming because of this, there are benign 3p which makes me not want to kill Colin for instance.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:23 amRead the first post of the game, there lies your answers.Strawhenge wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:30 pm 2. sirengif © me 2014. Hey @Cape90 what makes you think there are three third parties?
I noticed it because I was looking for what time the game even starts, reread the thing about 20 times before actually seeing it since it was implied at the bottom
I am town, but I think it's stupid to think that a game solving post being posted would be for nothing. But this is my answer to your post so.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm Maybe this thoughtdump is all nothing and he's town and I'm hedging on that way more in my head but I wanted to get this out there. The IAWY part is kind of a separate thing I tagged on because I haven't loved his thread position and it could fit. I think both Cape and IAWY are getting townreads for simply writing a lot of words and I want to push back on that.
I don't expect this post to be very popular, I don't have a strong conclusion, he could just be town and this is all spitballing. But fuck it I'm hitting post.
Also to be fair to you, towny post.
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
Not the greatest feeling everSabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:22 pmAre we finally town together in a game after so many months?pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:26 pm D1 feelings so far, about half way through the phase:
groups ordered alphabetically
no idea:
Chelsea
ColinIsCool
DaughterOfOmega
IBA
Le petit poussin
Mungbean (tasty food tho)
TheFloyd73
WindwardAway
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strong town:
good vibes:
Cape90
hollowkatt
nutella (also tasty)
risiinq-
Schiavetto
Strawhenge
unsure:
DeeZees
falcon45ca
Guillotine
LordQuas
Sabiplz
Valentine
bad vibes:
Creature
Inawordyes
pyxxy (is where I would put myself rn)
hooting and hollering:
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Pretty unusual to put yourself in bad vibes tier lol. It's honest self awareness but maybe too honest?pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:26 pm D1 feelings so far, about half way through the phase:
groups ordered alphabetically
no idea:
Chelsea
ColinIsCool
DaughterOfOmega
IBA
Le petit poussin
Mungbean (tasty food tho)
TheFloyd73
WindwardAway
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strong town:
good vibes:
Cape90
hollowkatt
nutella (also tasty)
risiinq-
Schiavetto
Strawhenge
unsure:
DeeZees
falcon45ca
Guillotine
LordQuas
Sabiplz
Valentine
bad vibes:
Creature
Inawordyes
pyxxy (is where I would put myself rn)
hooting and hollering:
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I said, "Better late than never / Just don't make me wait forever"
However @TheFloyd73 will surely be pocketed by your lyric selection.
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
Hey @hollowkatt should I go back and read from page one or just glide here? I got a couple irons in the fire already and don't want to waste my time if it's just a lot of noise.
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This whole thing feels procedurally generated.
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procedurally generated like minecraft on release or procedurally generated like no man's sky on release?
Is this what you want, is this who you are?
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Now this is a peculiar read I don't usually see. Usually I find that wolves struggle to fit into to the thread in some way. Do you think IAWY struggles less as wolf to get into the thread?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:39 pm iawy - comfortably in the uncomfortable town zone and by that I mean when iawy is semi-struggling to get into the thread and dig up meat he's more likely than not to be town. I also like the angles he's approaching things with even if I don't agree with them as I feel like it shows a depth of concern over the game that he wouldn't otherwise show.
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I get this view, but still seems like it should be a weak readValentine wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:32 pmdaughter's posted a few but they're peppered in.Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:17 pmHow is not posting any thoughts about the game towny tho? I would assume the lack of stake is wolf motivated.
I am not getting how any of this is legitimate read
i'm ... kind of confused how you don't think this is legitimate because the logic feels apparent to me? wolf need to control gamestate to push lims. if person not exerting tons of pressure, and they're not like, prone to completely freezing/inept at posting as wolf, is more likely to be town.
like i don't even feel like it's coasting because daughter is being more blatant about it. "when will i post game related post." is the motivation as a wolf saying something like that to just be... a cheeky, aloof wolf? it doesn't really sit with me as something i believe in.
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
polarized as always
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
Wait... WhatIBA wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:41 pmidk a couple hundred? Nothing has happened and it hasn't even been 24 hours, there's no reason for the average post per player to be in the double digits at this point
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I dont get how you arrive to this conclusion if you’ve never played with Valentine before.
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
@pyxxy what exactly is giving you trouble with finding me?
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Le petit pousse] aubergine
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What even happened?
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I think the last time we played as differing alignments you said something like "I am never town reading you again"Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:28 pmHmmm yeah and yet Im never confident in reading you correctly though, i dont think ive ever have. You are very good at faking town tone as scum and ive fallen for it a few times. I think the best way to find you is how your scum buddies treat you or the lack of trestment.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:13 amWe spend a lot of time in and out of games together. You also know me well.Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:53 pmYou know me too well.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:33 pmI've said this before and I'll say it again: Guillo without fire is wolf guillo.
Wolf guillo wants to cause chaos and get his pack deeper but he doesn't want to get drawn into knock down fights. Town guillo otoh plays a much more freestyle and "aggro-adjacent" game that gets under peoples skin and makes them do weird things to counter him.
That's the best way I've found to catch wolf guillo. Look for controlled chaos and pushes that seem feisty but lack the underlying fire
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my play lately has been a lot of "current page" and not really caring what's come before and then asking specific questions if I need/want clarification and that seems to be working out alright
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1. Commenting on how many posts there are is sort of a lazy mafia trait. You have shown that you are pretty much the opposite of lazy with your posts though.Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:10 pmHow? There were 7 pages in two hours of the game being open, and it's scummy to comment on that? I wasn't even complaining; it was just a whoa.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:51 pmTo be fair, slightly scummy on your end.Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:31 pm 3.1. Following his indifference, it's interesting that he attacked me for, 'complaining about the thread being active.' This, from the guy who said, 'idk you're all boring me' and saying he was going to go read.
Just a peek behind the curtain: I tend to write these lists more-or-less as I read ISOs in chronological order. And as far as I saw, pyxxy's online status was discussed multiple times with regards to IAWY, not Creature. My point was that Creature did this after the discussion about angel-shooting.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:51 pmJust to answer your question, yes, this was literally discussed multiple times and I am surprised with how much digging around you did for point 1 that you failed to see this.Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:31 pm 4. I don't know what to make of this with regards to alignment, but this is interesting. Creature says hi to pyxxy, and asks, 'Got something?' As of the time of writing, pyxxy has yet to post in the game. Pyxxy isn't @'ed in the post either. Did Creature see that pyxxy was online? I can't put my finger on it, but this is odd to me.
I'm missing your point here.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:51 pm Let's back up to a post between the reads list as you call it, and the vote on Valentine. Creature asks Sabi about what they thought of le petit/Valentine. Sabi responds with saying they aren't a fan of le petit making reads off rvs fluff and they are giving Valentine time til mid day 1. But this might not have been enough to rock the boat. This is where falcon comes in. Falcon makes these two posts right before Creature votes off Valentine before any of the other people that Creature has audibly voiced suspicion on.
2. I didn't notice this was all after that discussion on that subject
3. The point is I was trying to logic out why Creature was on Valentine over his more voiced suspicions. I pointed out the context clues in my post to show that it could have not came out of nowhere like you seemed to suggest with your post.
Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
Those wagons are uninspiring so far.
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I kinda agreed with falcon on her.
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
See, now, that's a complaint.
Literally just some fucking guy.
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Anyway, Creature, since you seem so bored again, I'll try to excite you.
[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
Literally just some fucking guy.
Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
That usually has the opposite effect. Try wagoning an actual wolf.Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:55 pm Anyway, Creature, since you seem so bored again, I'll try to excite you.
[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
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Convince me that I'm not.Creature wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:57 pmThat usually has the opposite effect. Try wagoning an actual wolf.Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:55 pm Anyway, Creature, since you seem so bored again, I'll try to excite you.
[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
Literally just some fucking guy.
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
Valentine, how long you’ve been playing Mafia?
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Meh I can't todayStrawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:57 pmConvince me that I'm not.Creature wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:57 pmThat usually has the opposite effect. Try wagoning an actual wolf.Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:55 pm Anyway, Creature, since you seem so bored again, I'll try to excite you.
[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
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I have had this said about my posts before. I type a bunch of words sometimes.IBA wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:42 pmThis whole thing feels procedurally generated.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:31 pmProbably correct, though I consider myself better at playing town then mafia, and this is coming from someone who got voted out 2 times day 1 in my last 2 Syndicate games as town, while I curbstomped everyone while I was mafia somehow.
1. Incorrect, I gave this very questionable read about youLike I made the post about you voting DZ over a pun in RVS like come on.
2. I really don't think it's that hard too see but with reads like #114, #170, #199 (in fact the whole Creature push felt like pocketing Sabi's read). And then there is #339 which just feels like pocketing risinnq now? A lot of these things stuck out to me in terms of you, and to me, I would figure a better player would bring up better arguments to why people are mafia. I get wanting momentum and stuff out of RVS, it's just never my preferred approach in doing so, it feels like pushing LHF for the sake of it which I wouldn't expect a player of your or Quas' caliber to do. Also Quas has the whole thing of being very different to his mash self this game.
I just started looking a lot elsewhere, also I wanted to write that readslist at the same time I also really wanted to sleep, so that sure didn't help me go into great detail on everyone, you can tell the first one I did was risinnq-.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm He didn't follow up with a vote despite it landing me on the bottom of his reads list in 674, with a very noncommittal handwave of my early DZ read (not one of the ones Chelsea cared about afaik, so at least he's contributing something new but it feels forced especially since that was pretty inconsequential first-page stuff). He is self-aware of his hedginess and I actually kind of like that when it appears in his posts. I can relate.
The use of "sometimes" was a good hint I was getting tired and didn't wanna actually detail the read. The missing puzzle piece here that distinguishes my read on you versus my read on IAWY was me kind of liking the over-explanation on his falcon vote as opposed to everyone else and I just didn't state it because I had already mentioned that and didn't feel the need to repeat (though it probably would have been good too repeat because stand alone it's confusing).nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm Like yes he says "towny sometimes" while the only positive in my blurb is that he "liked the bluntness" but this really goes nowhere. He goes on to state that several things from IAWY are either NAI or underwhelming. Which has about the same level of neutrality as most of the blurb about me except that he was able to latch onto Chelsea's push.
I will just say this, if you are mafia nutella, you just spewed Chelsea as town after you flip.
Counterpoint, the town game I immediately brought up SK onnutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm However the primary thought in my head is actually not the idea that Cape/IAWY are w/w. It's actually that Cape is 3P. Cape may very well actually think I am mafia if so. This is a very egotistical part of the read but it's what led me there -- as mafia he'd be less likely to pressure me, because given my meta/reputation if he knows I'm not mafia I am likely to post myself clear. And he brought up 3P factions which is classically >rand 3p lol. I would generally rather hunt mafia primarily over 3p but with 3 of them I don't think we should gloss over their existence.
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2426
I suppose you can counter counter point that and say I literally said this because originally I flipped mafia and had this thought as mafia as I was reading setup, but the game got reranded. OFC I didn't say this as the game was going on cuz duh, but I did get suspicion for that.
This is my explanation for why I noticed this in this game. I am assuming because of this, there are benign 3p which makes me not want to kill Colin for instance.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:23 amRead the first post of the game, there lies your answers.Strawhenge wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:30 pm 2. sirengif © me 2014. Hey @Cape90 what makes you think there are three third parties?
I noticed it because I was looking for what time the game even starts, reread the thing about 20 times before actually seeing it since it was implied at the bottom
I am town, but I think it's stupid to think that a game solving post being posted would be for nothing. But this is my answer to your post so.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm Maybe this thoughtdump is all nothing and he's town and I'm hedging on that way more in my head but I wanted to get this out there. The IAWY part is kind of a separate thing I tagged on because I haven't loved his thread position and it could fit. I think both Cape and IAWY are getting townreads for simply writing a lot of words and I want to push back on that.
I don't expect this post to be very popular, I don't have a strong conclusion, he could just be town and this is all spitballing. But fuck it I'm hitting post.
Also to be fair to you, towny post.
I just cannot think of anything other then
in the future entertainment will be randomly generated
every time i hear this
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Alright Cape90 is town.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:20 amSo because you cannot simply unvote I do not think, I wanted to get off Guillotina for now, so I did and voted Quas, and in the post I explain why I unvoted Guillotina.Valentine wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:09 amthis post feels weird in retrospectCape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:35 am I like Strawhedge's #464 post, even if I think the reasonings behind like their Valentine suspicion and IAWY suspicion are pretty funny reasons for scumreading someone. No idea if it's normal for them but I know it's normal for some people. But the post does show a level of thinking independantly
[VOTE: LordQuas] aubergine
For now, I just liked Guillo's response to me in #461, it is like Okay now I believe that Guillo believes what they are saying. The lack of further shade from Guillo, or the lack of Guillo shading me for it and instead explaining his POV to me is something that does ping me as a little un-Guillotina like, like I expected a loud OMGUS but whatever.
like i know the lordquas reasoning precedes this post but it feels like. weirdly shoehorned in between two reads that are like there to placate people yk. "yeah i like you two" and then boop sly vote. like the... presentation of it feels a little ?
and i think i'm offput because the general vibe i get from cape90 while skimming is that cape is erring towards townreading people or at the very least unwilling to really push down further than "could be town, could be mafia" anywhere. he feels very... gentle with his approach i guess.
You could call the approach I took, specifically with Guillotina careful. But tbh, it is one of the better approaches to take with them
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
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-feel decent abt nut, chels, quas, straw
-would be fine w/ snow, petit (Rask? Raskol???? i guess?????) chops for the time being
-have liked some cape but have felt variously sympathetic to some Less Enthused attitudes toward slot so eh
-conversation around pagecount/threadvolume is blegh
-every daughter post makes me groan, someone w/ an alignment read on them ping me & Help Me To See one way or the other maybe
-feel decent abt nut, chels, quas, straw
-would be fine w/ snow, petit (Rask? Raskol???? i guess?????) chops for the time being
-have liked some cape but have felt variously sympathetic to some Less Enthused attitudes toward slot so eh
-conversation around pagecount/threadvolume is blegh
-every daughter post makes me groan, someone w/ an alignment read on them ping me & Help Me To See one way or the other maybe
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
it goes it goes it goes it goesGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:02 pmAlright Cape90 is town.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:20 amSo because you cannot simply unvote I do not think, I wanted to get off Guillotina for now, so I did and voted Quas, and in the post I explain why I unvoted Guillotina.Valentine wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:09 amthis post feels weird in retrospectCape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:35 am I like Strawhedge's #464 post, even if I think the reasonings behind like their Valentine suspicion and IAWY suspicion are pretty funny reasons for scumreading someone. No idea if it's normal for them but I know it's normal for some people. But the post does show a level of thinking independantly
[VOTE: LordQuas] aubergine
For now, I just liked Guillo's response to me in #461, it is like Okay now I believe that Guillo believes what they are saying. The lack of further shade from Guillo, or the lack of Guillo shading me for it and instead explaining his POV to me is something that does ping me as a little un-Guillotina like, like I expected a loud OMGUS but whatever.
like i know the lordquas reasoning precedes this post but it feels like. weirdly shoehorned in between two reads that are like there to placate people yk. "yeah i like you two" and then boop sly vote. like the... presentation of it feels a little ?
and i think i'm offput because the general vibe i get from cape90 while skimming is that cape is erring towards townreading people or at the very least unwilling to really push down further than "could be town, could be mafia" anywhere. he feels very... gentle with his approach i guess.
You could call the approach I took, specifically with Guillotina careful. But tbh, it is one of the better approaches to take with them
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
I thought snow/risiinq seemed alright.Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:02 pm quick stop&jot
-feel decent abt nut, chels, quas, straw
-would be fine w/ snow, petit (Rask? Raskol???? i guess?????) chops for the time being
-have liked some cape but have felt variously sympathetic to some Less Enthused attitudes toward slot so eh
-conversation around pagecount/threadvolume is blegh
-every daughter post makes me groan, someone w/ an alignment read on them ping me & Help Me To See one way or the other maybe
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
like maybe not the wagoned slots themselves, but the movement around them
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
How do you figure? There are over 20+ players here. Do you have meta on all of them to determine that?Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:24 am If I see someone trying to push someone based on how awk they are I'm shutting that down because that's such a weak excuse and screams pushing LHF for no reason cause you can't think of a good excuse.
The only time someone can be pushed for being awk and its wolfy is if their meta is so polarizing that you can figure out if they're town or wolf based off like 10 posts and I doubt anyone fits that bill
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
got the impression she was uncomfy in threadCreature wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:04 pmI thought snow/risiinq seemed alright.Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:02 pm quick stop&jot
-feel decent abt nut, chels, quas, straw
-would be fine w/ snow, petit (Rask? Raskol???? i guess?????) chops for the time being
-have liked some cape but have felt variously sympathetic to some Less Enthused attitudes toward slot so eh
-conversation around pagecount/threadvolume is blegh
-every daughter post makes me groan, someone w/ an alignment read on them ping me & Help Me To See one way or the other maybe
Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
The lack of movements and when there's any it's just weak pushes that accomplish nothing that bothers me.Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:04 pm like maybe not the wagoned slots themselves, but the movement around them
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
What would accomplish something, then?Creature wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:05 pmThe lack of movements and when there's any it's just weak pushes that accomplish nothing that bothers me.Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:04 pm like maybe not the wagoned slots themselves, but the movement around them
Literally just some fucking guy.
Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
tbh I was expecting more fire from Sabiplz.
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:47 pmISO: @Inawordyes
4. Despite Item #2 in my list, IAWY does seem a little preoccupied with how others perceive them. They do it again, with Valentine again, here. It's interesting that there are two separate times when IAWY is directly trying to get Valentine to state their opinion of IAWY.
5. I don't know how to interpret this. Do you actually mean you don't like the fact that there's a sarc tag? That people need to use it less? How do I parse this. What does anything mean. I'm adrift on a still and moonless ocean.
6. Question for @Inawordyes: You say there's 'a difference between when [Val's vibe] is coming from a wolfy place and when it's townie'. What is that difference? I also get null/town-leaning vibes on Val, but I'm curious how you make the distinction.
7. I should have mentioned this in the hollowkatt iso, but this interaction between IAWY and hollowkatt is interesting. I'm having trouble articulating why, and this is purely a gut/vibe thing, but I could see this being two scummates passing in the night. A w/w interaction, in the parlance of the arena. Reiteration: purely gut, and not really based on anything.
--TL;DR, There are some funky things about IAWY so far, but I think that's all coming down to differences in playstyle. The whole angel-shooting thing is highly indicative that they are used to a different mafia environment, and that's something I can empathize with. My read is almost perfectly null: town pings are balanced with scum pings.
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
Finding a wagon we agree on someone wolfy, make it big enough and make the wagonee dance.Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:06 pmWhat would accomplish something, then?Creature wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:05 pmThe lack of movements and when there's any it's just weak pushes that accomplish nothing that bothers me.Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:04 pm like maybe not the wagoned slots themselves, but the movement around them
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
...ok?Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:31 pmProbably correct, though I consider myself better at playing town then mafia, and this is coming from someone who got voted out 2 times day 1 in my last 2 Syndicate games as town, while I curbstomped everyone while I was mafia somehow.
1. Incorrect, I gave this very questionable read about youLike I made the post about you voting DZ over a pun in RVS like come on.
I can agree with people's reads without it being pocketing? I bounce off other people's takes a lot. I also had pointed out the schia post I found sus before risinq did.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:31 pm
2. I really don't think it's that hard too see but with reads like #114, #170, #199 (in fact the whole Creature push felt like pocketing Sabi's read). And then there is #339 which just feels like pocketing risinnq now? A lot of these things stuck out to me in terms of you, and to me, I would figure a better player would bring up better arguments to why people are mafia. I get wanting momentum and stuff out of RVS, it's just never my preferred approach in doing so, it feels like pushing LHF for the sake of it which I wouldn't expect a player of your or Quas' caliber to do. Also Quas has the whole thing of being very different to his mash self this game.
Alright, that's reasonableCape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:31 pmI just started looking a lot elsewhere, also I wanted to write that readslist at the same time I also really wanted to sleep, so that sure didn't help me go into great detail on everyone, you can tell the first one I did was risinnq-.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm He didn't follow up with a vote despite it landing me on the bottom of his reads list in 674, with a very noncommittal handwave of my early DZ read (not one of the ones Chelsea cared about afaik, so at least he's contributing something new but it feels forced especially since that was pretty inconsequential first-page stuff). He is self-aware of his hedginess and I actually kind of like that when it appears in his posts. I can relate.
The use of "sometimes" was a good hint I was getting tired and didn't wanna actually detail the read. The missing puzzle piece here that distinguishes my read on you versus my read on IAWY was me kind of liking the over-explanation on his falcon vote as opposed to everyone else and I just didn't state it because I had already mentioned that and didn't feel the need to repeat (though it probably would have been good too repeat because stand alone it's confusing).nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm Like yes he says "towny sometimes" while the only positive in my blurb is that he "liked the bluntness" but this really goes nowhere. He goes on to state that several things from IAWY are either NAI or underwhelming. Which has about the same level of neutrality as most of the blurb about me except that he was able to latch onto Chelsea's push.
I am town and spewing her town. She's town.
Yes, that is a weaker point, I don't begrudge anyone awareness of the setupCape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:31 pmCounterpoint, the town game I immediately brought up SK onnutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm However the primary thought in my head is actually not the idea that Cape/IAWY are w/w. It's actually that Cape is 3P. Cape may very well actually think I am mafia if so. This is a very egotistical part of the read but it's what led me there -- as mafia he'd be less likely to pressure me, because given my meta/reputation if he knows I'm not mafia I am likely to post myself clear. And he brought up 3P factions which is classically >rand 3p lol. I would generally rather hunt mafia primarily over 3p but with 3 of them I don't think we should gloss over their existence.
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2426
I suppose you can counter counter point that and say I literally said this because originally I flipped mafia and had this thought as mafia as I was reading setup, but the game got reranded. OFC I didn't say this as the game was going on cuz duh, but I did get suspicion for that.
Yeah, I'm liking your response/engagement for the most part and you're not necessarily someone I'll end up pursuing strongly today but I'm glad I got the thoughts outCape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:31 pmThis is my explanation for why I noticed this in this game. I am assuming because of this, there are benign 3p which makes me not want to kill Colin for instance.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:23 amRead the first post of the game, there lies your answers.Strawhenge wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:30 pm 2. sirengif © me 2014. Hey @Cape90 what makes you think there are three third parties?
I noticed it because I was looking for what time the game even starts, reread the thing about 20 times before actually seeing it since it was implied at the bottom
I am town, but I think it's stupid to think that a game solving post being posted would be for nothing. But this is my answer to your post so.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm Maybe this thoughtdump is all nothing and he's town and I'm hedging on that way more in my head but I wanted to get this out there. The IAWY part is kind of a separate thing I tagged on because I haven't loved his thread position and it could fit. I think both Cape and IAWY are getting townreads for simply writing a lot of words and I want to push back on that.
I don't expect this post to be very popular, I don't have a strong conclusion, he could just be town and this is all spitballing. But fuck it I'm hitting post.
Also to be fair to you, towny post.
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
Alright, sell me on Le petit then. Or can you not do that today either?Creature wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:08 pmFinding a wagon we agree on someone wolfy, make it big enough and make the wagonee dance.Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:06 pmWhat would accomplish something, then?Creature wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:05 pmThe lack of movements and when there's any it's just weak pushes that accomplish nothing that bothers me.Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:04 pm like maybe not the wagoned slots themselves, but the movement around them
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:06 pm Zeus talking about technical dramas like a boomer is a clear wolf tell. Sheep this read guys. Ironclad tier.
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:13 pmDude, I am prolly older than you.
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Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:19 pmThanks for the warm welcome Guillo! Kinda unexpected but I take it pal :fingerguns:Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:17 pm Finally…. the best day 1 scum hunter of the entire globe has comeback To The Syndicate!
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
They both seem pretty comfortable in thread even if their entrances weren't the smoothest. After the first few posts DZ became what I think is his town self, getting reads and unfiltered thoughts out there. Similarly Valentine played up a newbie schtick for a bit but rather than continuing to lean into it she pushed through and started contributing her pov and generating a lot of interaction. I'm not really familiar with Valentine but I view it as >rand town to overcome resistance to participating by suddenly spilling over with content.
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]
am maybe sympathetic to this, have had similar thoughts like, more than a few times as vill (or more generally just like, exasperation @ some towns' antipathy toward Making An Inference Ever In Their Life/less predication-heavy townplay)