Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]

[Cape90]

I don’t trust Windward at all

Yeah cannot say posts are doing anything for me either still.
I don't really trust you either but at least with you there is progress in terms of reads

[DaughterOfOmega]

I thought about claiming and having a race, but it’d turn this game into a meme

[hollowkatt]

My friend didn't like Heather's

get better friends

That is basically the theme of the story, iirc

yes, which is why it was funny in my head when I wrote it

[IBA]

It could be I'm just a sucker for whatever that lizard bird thing is but that feels like a strong come back. Non-defensive and immediately launching into valid critiques of someone else. Anyway I'm in, let's murder inaword

[IBA]

My friend didn't like Heather's

get better friends

That is basically the theme of the story, iirc

yes, which is why it was funny in my head when I wrote it

Cool

Vote iawy

[Sabiplz]

I don’t trust Windward at all

Yeah cannot say posts are doing anything for me either still.
I don't really trust you either but at least with you there is progress in terms of reads

What progression with reads has daughter done? Citation please.

I'm giving windward time because she's been afk and was drunk in the thread.

[Cape90]

I like Strawhedge's #464 post, even if I think the reasonings behind like their Valentine suspicion and IAWY suspicion are pretty funny reasons for scumreading someone. No idea if it's normal for them but I know it's normal for some people. But the post does show a level of thinking independantly

[VOTE: LordQuas] aubergine

For now, I just liked Guillo's response to me in #461, it is like Okay now I believe that Guillo believes what they are saying. The lack of further shade from Guillo, or the lack of Guillo shading me for it and instead explaining his POV to me is something that does ping me as a little un-Guillotina like, like I expected a loud OMGUS but whatever.

this post feels weird in retrospect

like i know the lordquas reasoning precedes this post but it feels like. weirdly shoehorned in between two reads that are like there to placate people yk. "yeah i like you two" and then boop sly vote. like the... presentation of it feels a little ?

and i think i'm offput because the general vibe i get from cape90 while skimming is that cape is erring towards townreading people or at the very least unwilling to really push down further than "could be town, could be mafia" anywhere. he feels very... gentle with his approach i guess.

So because you cannot simply unvote I do not think, I wanted to get off Guillotina for now, so I did and voted Quas, and in the post I explain why I unvoted Guillotina.

You could call the approach I took, specifically with Guillotina careful. But tbh, it is one of the better approaches to take with them

Alright Cape90 is town.

Why's that your takeaway here?

Because that is an accurate assessment from someone who has seen me wolfing and towning, wolfing specially as I'm a terrifying wolf player. There is no agenda, no attempt at pocketing me either, there is a healthy amount of paranoia, there is respect for what I'm capable of and he is willing to let me breath and produce results.

I'm not sure this is an AI reason to think I am town

[DaughterOfOmega]

I don’t trust Windward at all

Yeah cannot say posts are doing anything for me either still.
I don't really trust you either but at least with you there is progress in terms of reads

What progression with reads has daughter done? Citation please.

I'm giving windward time because she's been afk and was drunk in the thread.

I don’t even know where my progression is that

[Cape90]

I don’t trust Windward at all

Yeah cannot say posts are doing anything for me either still.
I don't really trust you either but at least with you there is progress in terms of reads

What progression with reads has daughter done? Citation please.

I'm giving windward time because she's been afk and was drunk in the thread.

"Progression" it's more DaughterOfOmega has had reads versus WWA. And I know WWA is a good player and their posts so far just exist

[Cape90]

Falcon is no damn LHF

IAWY was pushing falcon for LHF reasons though and that was the point behind that argument I assume. Like falcon only had his starting posts I believe until a little later when it seemed like IAWY got upset at falcon for less then indictive reasons

[Cape90]

(I had kinda forgotten about the gf tho)

Yeah actually thanks for the reminder

[hollowkatt]

My friend didn't like Heather's

get better friends

That is basically the theme of the story, iirc

yes, which is why it was funny in my head when I wrote it

Cool

Vote iawy

I recognize that as a valid opinion, just not one I share at the moment.

[Cape90]

Hollowkatt I have really really vibed with in terms of where I am at.

I am feeling less sure on my risinnq read as of page 22

[Cape90]

Okay wow wow wow I fucking hate the bats on my screen trying to parse this, I'll just take your fucking word for it christ

You can turn spooky mode off pretty easily

[Cape90]

strawhenge, who i havent looked into yet, and cape, who i kinda think may be town now but it's my own wagon just bcuz they ahven't given me the *insta find as town* vibes i had last time i played with them, where they were nked n1

To be fair I have been misexed like the past 2 times I have been town on this site

[Valentine]

i feel a lot less interested in like, almost the entired of my ...meh... tier than i was when i wrote it

-_-

[Sabiplz]

I don’t trust Windward at all

Yeah cannot say posts are doing anything for me either still.
I don't really trust you either but at least with you there is progress in terms of reads

What progression with reads has daughter done? Citation please.

I'm giving windward time because she's been afk and was drunk in the thread.

"Progression" it's more DaughterOfOmega has had reads versus WWA. And I know WWA is a good player and their posts so far just exist

So why bring up daughter then? What was the point of this whole comparison?

I really don't like this post from guy cape.

[Cape90]

I don't like Cape disappearing the second several people declared them town, and now I want to murder them

I'ma be honest, I just got lazy and didn't wanna do more

[Sabiplz]

i feel a lot less interested in like, almost the entired of my ...meh... tier than i was when i wrote it

-_-

Wanna expand on this?

[Valentine]

i feel a lot less interested in like, almost the entired of my ...meh... tier than i was when i wrote it

-_-

Wanna expand on this?

*waves hands about*

i kind of feel like the reason ppl are in it is because i can't recall like, anything a good 3rd of this playerlist said so i put them in 'meh' and if i got even a quiet ding of "hmm" i moved people down a tier but now i just think i'm going off of recency because i'm sitting here going "who i vote" and i'm -_- at my vote on you and i'm not interested in a cape vote or a guillotine vote. nutella i'm a bit more amenable to but i feel like there's a wagon there that's been... sitting for a little bit and idk what to make about it.

pxy simply doesn't exist in this game and iirc my reason for putting them there was because of that thing where they were around for a bit and simply chose not to participate and i was like "mmm yeah sure why not point again" but even then its like. what does my vote do if i vote pxy. is anyone talking about this slot or would it do anything

i'm just very ???? at where to go lol

[Cape90]

I don’t trust Windward at all

Yeah cannot say posts are doing anything for me either still.
I don't really trust you either but at least with you there is progress in terms of reads

What progression with reads has daughter done? Citation please.

I'm giving windward time because she's been afk and was drunk in the thread.

"Progression" it's more DaughterOfOmega has had reads versus WWA. And I know WWA is a good player and their posts so far just exist

So why bring up daughter then? What was the point of this whole comparison?

I really don't like this post from guy cape.

Because Daughter came up with the take?

I was quite literally going to be called out if I didn't mention the take came from DaughterOfOmega. So

[falcon45ca]

i feel a lot less interested in like, almost the entired of my ...meh... tier than i was when i wrote it

-_-

Wanna expand on this?

*waves hands about*

i kind of feel like the reason ppl are in it is because i can't recall like, anything a good 3rd of this playerlist said so i put them in 'meh' and if i got even a quiet ding of "hmm" i moved people down a tier but now i just think i'm going off of recency because i'm sitting here going "who i vote" and i'm -_- at my vote on you and i'm not interested in a cape vote or a guillotine vote. nutella i'm a bit more amenable to but i feel like there's a wagon there that's been... sitting for a little bit and idk what to make about it.

pxy simply doesn't exist in this game and iirc my reason for putting them there was because of that thing where they were around for a bit and simply chose not to participate and i was like "mmm yeah sure why not point again" but even then its like. what does my vote do if i vote pxy. is anyone talking about this slot or would it do anything

i'm just very ???? at where to go lol

I am antithetic to this type of game state read, I find it abhorrent...but I've seen a lot of them flip town...


Tell me, when will, if ever, this state of "oh gosh, I just don't know" head space leave? Like, is this typical of your entire gameview from start to end, or is it more a D1 trait?


Anyone have meta on Val?

[Valentine]

i feel a lot less interested in like, almost the entired of my ...meh... tier than i was when i wrote it

-_-

Wanna expand on this?

*waves hands about*

i kind of feel like the reason ppl are in it is because i can't recall like, anything a good 3rd of this playerlist said so i put them in 'meh' and if i got even a quiet ding of "hmm" i moved people down a tier but now i just think i'm going off of recency because i'm sitting here going "who i vote" and i'm -_- at my vote on you and i'm not interested in a cape vote or a guillotine vote. nutella i'm a bit more amenable to but i feel like there's a wagon there that's been... sitting for a little bit and idk what to make about it.

pxy simply doesn't exist in this game and iirc my reason for putting them there was because of that thing where they were around for a bit and simply chose not to participate and i was like "mmm yeah sure why not point again" but even then its like. what does my vote do if i vote pxy. is anyone talking about this slot or would it do anything

i'm just very ???? at where to go lol

I am antithetic to this type of game state read, I find it abhorrent...but I've seen a lot of them flip town...


Tell me, when will, if ever, this state of "oh gosh, I just don't know" head space leave? Like, is this typical of your entire gameview from start to end, or is it more a D1 trait?


Anyone have meta on Val?

this is definitely more of a "i am adjusting to new place new vibes and new aesthetic mixed with a tinge of needing like, a flip and a vote count to look into" than it is my game as a whole tbh

[Chelsea]

Someone ask me questions cause rn I only feel like posting to be townread so I wanna get my brain working that isn't just 'effort'

[Sabiplz]

Someone ask me questions cause rn I only feel like posting to be townread so I wanna get my brain working that isn't just 'effort'

How do you feel about the Strawhenge x IBA conflict?

[Cape90]

Other then having 4 townreads of me/Sabi/quas/falcon, there's not a lot to take away from DaughterOfOmega.

A little birdy told me that Sabi isn’t posting like their usual town self.

Source is sketch

Contradicting themselves with Sabi read is interesting. At least it's implied this is a contradiction.

Also I remember feeling that Nnutella wasn't really sussing me when it happened Cape, so I'll go check because I thought she was kinda saying it without meaning or caring about it in a way you might when talking to a child

When DZ got back into the thread, he didn't mention this so I do find this a bit curious.

Falcon got more towny as time went on, the concern with risinnq's reads seemed towny with falcon noting that risinnq and the time it took risinnq to get so many town reads.
Calls Sabi out for sidelining.

I think meta makes me think Chelsea is town. They just really have a distinct play style as town versus mafia that is usually very apparent. Plus moving out of contentious meta territory, I do not think if Chelsea were mafia she would push back so much against me defending Schiavetto despite town leaning Schia herself.

Not sure if I said this already but the more I caught up with risinnq, the better I felt after page 22. Plus looking back at her response to my Guillo push and her Sabi treatment from earlier makes me feel more okay.

I’ve got no problem with Strawhenge saying he’s not engaging with people at a certain point. I’ve done the same thing plenty of times as town. NAI at best

i can vibe with this a bit.

Le petit hasn't caught up and it has been over 6 hours since they said they were going to catch up, in fact slightly over 12. As non indictive as that may be, it bothers me. Nothing else too say new here.

WWA really has their sight on IBA and I think I get it. It is a read on wolfy self-awareness. The classic. Oh and performative which does seem to go hand-in-hand.
WWA asking about IBA's read on HK when IBA had none but WWA just assumed seemed like a genuine thought.

[Chelsea]

If I see someone trying to push someone based on how awk they are I'm shutting that down because that's such a weak excuse and screams pushing LHF for no reason cause you can't think of a good excuse.

The only time someone can be pushed for being awk and its wolfy is if their meta is so polarizing that you can figure out if they're town or wolf based off like 10 posts and I doubt anyone fits that bill

How do you figure? There are over 20+ players here. Do you have meta on all of them to determine that?

No, but the problem with a lot of mafia players is they put town and mafia in a black and white box when it's really Gray. Like some people think only town do X and mafia do Y and whenever I see that (and partly because I am a victim to this but it's not the main issue) it makes me roll my eyes. I stand by the fact awkwardness is nearly always NAI, you don't need meta on someone to figure that out. Plus lol meta but that's another conversation.

[Chelsea]

Someone ask me questions cause rn I only feel like posting to be townread so I wanna get my brain working that isn't just 'effort'

How do you feel about the Strawhenge x IBA conflict?

I felt like IBA's reactions were overblown, in a way I don't really understand why they got the way they did. I put in a pin in it to see if they do this kind of reaction later. Tbh I wasn't gonna bring it up because if this is just how IBA is having that kind of player barking at my heels would be a drag. I'm always a fan for pressure on Strawhenge though.

[hollowkatt]

Someone ask me questions cause rn I only feel like posting to be townread so I wanna get my brain working that isn't just 'effort'

sure. why do you need handholding

[hollowkatt]

IBAs play here is 100% IBA indicative btw. Regardless of alignment he's going to play the way he's currently playing.

[Chelsea]

Someone ask me questions cause rn I only feel like posting to be townread so I wanna get my brain working that isn't just 'effort'

sure. why do you need handholding

Coming from you this is funny.

Don't really need it but it forces me to not be lazy and keep my thoughts to myself and I sadly somewhat care about being townread this game given the setting otherwise I'd prob have lurked more.

[hollowkatt]

Someone ask me questions cause rn I only feel like posting to be townread so I wanna get my brain working that isn't just 'effort'

sure. why do you need handholding

Coming from you this is funny.

Don't really need it but it forces me to not be lazy and keep my thoughts to myself and I sadly somewhat care about being townread this game given the setting otherwise I'd prob have lurked more.

ngl I'm incredibly high at the moment and I thought you were Valentine.
good answer tho

[Chelsea]

Someone ask me questions cause rn I only feel like posting to be townread so I wanna get my brain working that isn't just 'effort'

sure. why do you need handholding

Coming from you this is funny.

Don't really need it but it forces me to not be lazy and keep my thoughts to myself and I sadly somewhat care about being townread this game given the setting otherwise I'd prob have lurked more.

ngl I'm incredibly high at the moment and I thought you were Valentine.
good answer tho

hk I mean this in a nice way given our history.

i'ma rko you through a table lmfao

[Valentine]

my dream is to be twinning with chelsea

[Chelsea]

I hope you get night killed.

[DaughterOfOmega]

How do I see post counts on this forum

[DaughterOfOmega]

Probably get off mobile and get on my pc

[Valentine]

I hope you get night killed.

me? silly little me?

[Chelsea]

I hope you get night killed.

me? silly little me?

yes you. go get night killed or something idk. twinning with you? gross. yuck. HORRIBLE.

[Valentine]

I hope you get night killed.

me? silly little me?

yes you. go get night killed or something idk. twinning with you? gross. yuck. HORRIBLE.

i think it's cute how our avatars are like a little alike in colors !

[Valentine]

(did we theatre enough yet)

[Chelsea]

(did we theatre enough yet)

the amount of times people have come back and tried to connect my banter as theatre makes me laugh so hard given theatre is like my biggest mafia flex I have .

[Chelsea]

Thoughts on pyxxy?

[nutella]

Thoughts on pyxxy?

Close to none

[nutella]

Kinda wanna make things slightly spicier and move to cape or something

[Chelsea]

Thoughts on pyxxy?

Close to none

Sobbing.

Kinda wanna make things slightly spicier and move to cape or something

Mmmmm you could tell me why Creature is a wolf. Not that I'll prob do anything, it feels like everyone has god tier Creature meta and I'm just sitting here letting it happen.

[Marmot]

@Manny has replaced @Strawhenge. Please do not talk about substitutions.

Spoiler: show

@Cape90
@Chelsea
@ColinIsCool
@Creature
@DaughterOfOmega
@DeeZees
@falcon45ca
@Guillotine
@hollowkatt
@IBA
@Inawordyes
@Le petit poussin
@LordQuas
@Manny
@Mungbean
@nutella
@pyxxy
@risiinq-
@Sabiplz
@Schiavetto
@Strawhenge
@TheFloyd73
@Valentine
@WindwardAway

[Valentine]

Thoughts on pyxxy?

a shred of self consciousness as a treat

[nutella]

Town creature is on like a higher tier of uninhibited threadblogging. He's made some of his typical sort of comments in this game but the overall effect of his presence has been limp and halfhearted

[nutella]

Oh hey Manny!