Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]

[Sabiplz]

Then Sabi is not displayig things i associate with town her, and, is doing some things i find wolfy.

Some towny things sabi does are:
- jump around with a wide worldview esrly game
- find and hard shield ppl sbe town reads

Im not seeing either of that

Flip side shes doing some things i find wolfy including:
- displaying quiet not performative confidence indicating to me its strategised not truthful
- the whole "i think ive got dz but need to wait 24 hours sonwont look elsewherw" looks to me like an excuse. Might just be me but when i have a scum read i generally sing it from hills and get dead excited
- they gensdally lack villagey paranoia and seem to show a degreee of confidence in game
- im seeig lots of questions that i associate with wolfy ppl @Cape90 the stuff you accused me of in the f3

Omgus me harder.

You haven't played with me in 4 months and I have changed a lot.

I also wanted to pressure you, that's how I play.

I don't think you're town. I specced a lot of your games while I was banned.

You have not towntold

[Sabiplz]

Then Sabi is not displayig things i associate with town her, and, is doing some things i find wolfy.

Some towny things sabi does are:
- jump around with a wide worldview esrly game
- find and hard shield ppl sbe town reads

Im not seeing either of that

Flip side shes doing some things i find wolfy including:
- displaying quiet not performative confidence indicating to me its strategised not truthful
- the whole "i think ive got dz but need to wait 24 hours sonwont look elsewherw" looks to me like an excuse. Might just be me but when i have a scum read i generally sing it from hills and get dead excited
- they gensdally lack villagey paranoia and seem to show a degreee of confidence in game
- im seeig lots of questions that i associate with wolfy ppl @Cape90 the stuff you accused me of in the f3

ok, lemme give a bit of my thoughts on this

1. i think theyve definitely done "find and hard shield ppl to be townreads"
such as falcon

2. i think they HAVE not treated u as a real sr and i actually had opened their iso, searching mentions of u, to look into it and found it weird

I literally said I was waiting for them to come back to talk to them. Searching is terrible search tool.

[ColinIsCool]

The Colin stuff can go either way. I've never encountered a town-friendly third-party role to my knowledge, but that's not to exclude the possibility of it existing. I'm struggling to envisage a scenario where anybody would volunteer their role to Colin regardless of their public claim, so it seems an odd wincon to say the least. But the same logic applies if they're anti-town.

What if I ask really nicely?

[Sabiplz]

Quite literally

DZ never read my iso.

I have hard shielded my town read

I have thrown sus at creature, valentine, daughter, and dz.

Like what the fuck is this shit.

[Sabiplz]

Wolf dz omgus every one who pushes him because he can't figure out anyone else to push.

Notice how he quoted people like Schiav and quas iso but not me when he decided to push me.

He doesn't believe in this push.

[Sabiplz]

Manny and Windward are in my town pile atm

[WindwardAway]

snow turned town overnight, nice

Who's snow?

[Sabiplz]

My voters consist:

- guy upset I made a joke about me

- omgus-ing me because I found their read on their top town weak and illogical

- omgus from dz

Cool in a top wagon because of that. No scum case or anything.

[Sabiplz]

snow turned town overnight, nice

Who's snow?

Risingq

[WindwardAway]

Manny and Windward are in my town pile atm

Do you think Manny has towny posts, or is it mostly a continuation read from Strawhenge?
Also, why me?

[Sabiplz]

We are 10 hours left of the day with 23 players and no actual fucking wagon (vote of 3 people is not one)

Why the fuck aren't people voting

Why is everyone just not motivated or engaged

[Sabiplz]

Manny and Windward are in my town pile atm

Do you think Manny has towny posts, or is it mostly a continuation read from Strawhenge?
Also, why me?

For Manny it's both because his posts reconfirm the townread I had on strawhenge. Atleast now I know I wasn't being pocketed.

You, just overall your posting and tone have been towny windward. Your arguments last night was fine.

[risiinq-]

i kinda wanna call dz/sabi v/v and move on

regardless i'm not interested in killing any of them d1

[risiinq-]

sabi who else would you pursue as a scumread rn if not dz?

[Schiavetto]

i kinda wanna call dz/sabi v/v and move on

regardless i'm not interested in killing any of them d1

not so hot on DZ's latest stuff, remind me to get into it later

[Sabiplz]

sabi who else would you pursue as a scumread rn if not dz?

At this point:

Valentine,
Creature,
And cape (his push on windward and his read on daughter is so bad)

Everyone else I don't feel good about I'm not familar with them so I'm waiting for more info before I push them.

[risiinq-]

meh, could be wrong, still think they've been towny though

[WindwardAway]

Ftr I'm undecided on DZ, haven't iso'd him because (1) I haven't had the time yet and (2) I don't remember how isoing works on this site lol. At the moment I don't have a strong enough feeling in either direction on his slot but I will see how I feel as the game progresses.

[risiinq-]

sabi who else would you pursue as a scumread rn if not dz?

At this point:

Valentine,
Creature,
And cape (his push on windward and his read on daughter is so bad)

Everyone else I don't feel good about I'm not familar with them so I'm waiting for more info before I push them.

just fwiw for wagonbuilding out of these i'd be down for cape

valentine and creature meh not really

[Sabiplz]

i kinda wanna call dz/sabi v/v and move on

regardless i'm not interested in killing any of them d1

Explain how dz is town?

Look at his push on me.

Look at his iso.

There is no town dz signs.

I open both of the turbo forum mafia invitationals where he was mafia in and it's giving me similar vibes.

[Sabiplz]

Ftr I'm undecided on DZ, haven't iso'd him because (1) I haven't had the time yet and (2) I don't remember how isoing works on this site lol. At the moment I don't have a strong enough feeling in either direction on his slot but I will see how I feel as the game progresses.

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[risiinq-]

can you elaborate on such "dz wolf signs" first?

sorry for replying to a question with question, but it's necessary for my pov ig

[WindwardAway]

Haven't iso'd creature yet either so idk if he's scum
I think I already explained what little thought I had on creature so far and that I think it's entire plausible for him to lurk behind a claim as scum since he's done it before
But tbf he was under more pressure in that game, and fake claimed when he was top wagon at EoD
He's not top wagon here and it was nowhere near EoD when he sort of claimed so idk what to make of that

[risiinq-]

and also, sabi, do u think you've been really obvtown rn?

[Sabiplz]

I gave dz time when he got back. To post thinking that hey maybe because dz was drunk and hungover that's why his posts stank.

I think I gave him enough time and space to say he's a wolf

[WindwardAway]

sabi who else would you pursue as a scumread rn if not dz?

At this point:

Valentine,
Creature,
And cape (his push on windward and his read on daughter is so bad)

Everyone else I don't feel good about I'm not familar with them so I'm waiting for more info before I push them.

Honestly idek if Cape is pushing me or not because his take on whatever I said about IBA/HK certainly didn't sound like he thought I was scum making shit up

[WindwardAway]

Ftr I'm undecided on DZ, haven't iso'd him because (1) I haven't had the time yet and (2) I don't remember how isoing works on this site lol. At the moment I don't have a strong enough feeling in either direction on his slot but I will see how I feel as the game progresses.

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Ty, got it.

[Schiavetto]

We are 10 hours left of the day with 23 players and no actual fucking wagon (vote of 3 people is not one)

Why the fuck aren't people voting

Why is everyone just not motivated or engaged

[Guillotine]

I don’t trust Windward at all

Yeah cannot say posts are doing anything for me either still.
I don't really trust you either but at least with you there is progress in terms of reads

What progression with reads has daughter done? Citation please.

I'm giving windward time because she's been afk and was drunk in the thread.

Why do you scum read DeeZee again?

[Sabiplz]

can you elaborate on such "dz wolf signs" first?

sorry for replying to a question with question, but it's necessary for my pov ig

OK multi quoting atm sucks on my phone if I keep getting logged off.

Anyway:
His rvs was incredibly awkward and uncomfortable. He was flailing and throwing out half ass town read towards Nutella and weird pushes on players for reasons he then tr others on.

He has no real direction to go towards. He was pushing on Rask early and since Rask dropped off he didn't continue to push there. His omgus on me. He doesn't have a solid grasp of the game and game state.

His posting just feel devoid of any passion or solving. He feels like he's dragging himself. He was gone for 24hours and had nothing to say about what happened in the game. Just isoed two players and washed his hands of the game.

Lack of engaging with others.

[Sabiplz]

and also, sabi, do u think you've been really obvtown rn?

No because I have been shifting my play style away from that because while it got people to find me, I was not having accurate or good reads by playing that way.

[Sabiplz]

I don’t trust Windward at all

Yeah cannot say posts are doing anything for me either still.
I don't really trust you either but at least with you there is progress in terms of reads

What progression with reads has daughter done? Citation please.

I'm giving windward time because she's been afk and was drunk in the thread.

Why do you scum read DeeZee again?

can you elaborate on such "dz wolf signs" first?

sorry for replying to a question with question, but it's necessary for my pov ig

OK multi quoting atm sucks on my phone if I keep getting logged off.

Anyway:
His rvs was incredibly awkward and uncomfortable. He was flailing and throwing out half ass town read towards Nutella and weird pushes on players for reasons he then tr others on.

He has no real direction to go towards. He was pushing on Rask early and since Rask dropped off he didn't continue to push there. His omgus on me. He doesn't have a solid grasp of the game and game state.

His posting just feel devoid of any passion or solving. He feels like he's dragging himself. He was gone for 24hours and had nothing to say about what happened in the game. Just isoed two players and washed his hands of the game.

Lack of engaging with others.

[Guillotine]

I don’t trust Windward at all

Yeah cannot say posts are doing anything for me either still.
I don't really trust you either but at least with you there is progress in terms of reads

What progression with reads has daughter done? Citation please.

I'm giving windward time because she's been afk and was drunk in the thread.

"Progression" it's more DaughterOfOmega has had reads versus WWA. And I know WWA is a good player and their posts so far just exist

So why bring up daughter then? What was the point of this whole comparison?

I really don't like this post from guy cape.

I hated you mocking me but this interaction looks good. Sabi/Cape90 are unaligned based on this interaction.

[Guillotine]

I don’t trust Windward at all

Yeah cannot say posts are doing anything for me either still.
I don't really trust you either but at least with you there is progress in terms of reads

What progression with reads has daughter done? Citation please.

I'm giving windward time because she's been afk and was drunk in the thread.

Why do you scum read DeeZee again?

can you elaborate on such "dz wolf signs" first?

sorry for replying to a question with question, but it's necessary for my pov ig

OK multi quoting atm sucks on my phone if I keep getting logged off.

Anyway:
His rvs was incredibly awkward and uncomfortable. He was flailing and throwing out half ass town read towards Nutella and weird pushes on players for reasons he then tr others on.

He has no real direction to go towards. He was pushing on Rask early and since Rask dropped off he didn't continue to push there. His omgus on me. He doesn't have a solid grasp of the game and game state.

His posting just feel devoid of any passion or solving. He feels like he's dragging himself. He was gone for 24hours and had nothing to say about what happened in the game. Just isoed two players and washed his hands of the game.

Lack of engaging with others.

If im right about a team of petit/deezee im a fucking GOAT.

Upob checking your ISO, i noticed we had similar views with regards on Valentine. You mentioned that she is playing the new player card which is the impression i got from one of her reads and i asked how long she's been playing and she said she;s been playing for a while, so, no new player card for her.

Im keeping my eye on her

[Guillotine]

I like Strawhedge's #464 post, even if I think the reasonings behind like their Valentine suspicion and IAWY suspicion are pretty funny reasons for scumreading someone. No idea if it's normal for them but I know it's normal for some people. But the post does show a level of thinking independantly

[VOTE: LordQuas] aubergine

For now, I just liked Guillo's response to me in #461, it is like Okay now I believe that Guillo believes what they are saying. The lack of further shade from Guillo, or the lack of Guillo shading me for it and instead explaining his POV to me is something that does ping me as a little un-Guillotina like, like I expected a loud OMGUS but whatever.

this post feels weird in retrospect

like i know the lordquas reasoning precedes this post but it feels like. weirdly shoehorned in between two reads that are like there to placate people yk. "yeah i like you two" and then boop sly vote. like the... presentation of it feels a little ?

and i think i'm offput because the general vibe i get from cape90 while skimming is that cape is erring towards townreading people or at the very least unwilling to really push down further than "could be town, could be mafia" anywhere. he feels very... gentle with his approach i guess.

So because you cannot simply unvote I do not think, I wanted to get off Guillotina for now, so I did and voted Quas, and in the post I explain why I unvoted Guillotina.

You could call the approach I took, specifically with Guillotina careful. But tbh, it is one of the better approaches to take with them

Alright Cape90 is town.

Why's that your takeaway here?

Because that is an accurate assessment from someone who has seen me wolfing and towning, wolfing specially as I'm a terrifying wolf player. There is no agenda, no attempt at pocketing me either, there is a healthy amount of paranoia, there is respect for what I'm capable of and he is willing to let me breath and produce results.

I'm not sure this is an AI reason to think I am town

It is my reason to think you are town

[Sabiplz]

I don’t trust Windward at all

Yeah cannot say posts are doing anything for me either still.
I don't really trust you either but at least with you there is progress in terms of reads

What progression with reads has daughter done? Citation please.

I'm giving windward time because she's been afk and was drunk in the thread.

Why do you scum read DeeZee again?

can you elaborate on such "dz wolf signs" first?

sorry for replying to a question with question, but it's necessary for my pov ig

OK multi quoting atm sucks on my phone if I keep getting logged off.

Anyway:
His rvs was incredibly awkward and uncomfortable. He was flailing and throwing out half ass town read towards Nutella and weird pushes on players for reasons he then tr others on.

He has no real direction to go towards. He was pushing on Rask early and since Rask dropped off he didn't continue to push there. His omgus on me. He doesn't have a solid grasp of the game and game state.

His posting just feel devoid of any passion or solving. He feels like he's dragging himself. He was gone for 24hours and had nothing to say about what happened in the game. Just isoed two players and washed his hands of the game.

Lack of engaging with others.

If im right about a team of petit/deezee im a fucking GOAT.

Upob checking your ISO, i noticed we had similar views with regards on Valentine. You mentioned that she is playing the new player card which is the impression i got from one of her reads and i asked how long she's been playing and she said she;s been playing for a while, so, no new player card for her.

Im keeping my eye on her

I said new player to the site card. As someone who played on 7 new sites in the last 3 months I know how it feels D1 so I'm giving them space.

Also if we are aligned, why are you still voting me.

[Guillotine]

If I see someone trying to push someone based on how awk they are I'm shutting that down because that's such a weak excuse and screams pushing LHF for no reason cause you can't think of a good excuse.

The only time someone can be pushed for being awk and its wolfy is if their meta is so polarizing that you can figure out if they're town or wolf based off like 10 posts and I doubt anyone fits that bill

How do you figure? There are over 20+ players here. Do you have meta on all of them to determine that?

No, but the problem with a lot of mafia players is they put town and mafia in a black and white box when it's really Gray. Like some people think only town do X and mafia do Y and whenever I see that (and partly because I am a victim to this but it's not the main issue) it makes me roll my eyes. I stand by the fact awkwardness is nearly always NAI, you don't need meta on someone to figure that out. Plus lol meta but that's another conversation.

I feel like you didnt really answer my question because your post was very specific at the end. “I doubt anyone fits the bill of being so polarizing that you can figure out if they're town or wolf based off like 10 posts”. Lke what gives you that impression if you havent had the time to arrive at that impression.

[Guillotine]

I don’t trust Windward at all

Yeah cannot say posts are doing anything for me either still.
I don't really trust you either but at least with you there is progress in terms of reads

What progression with reads has daughter done? Citation please.

I'm giving windward time because she's been afk and was drunk in the thread.

Why do you scum read DeeZee again?

can you elaborate on such "dz wolf signs" first?

sorry for replying to a question with question, but it's necessary for my pov ig

OK multi quoting atm sucks on my phone if I keep getting logged off.

Anyway:
His rvs was incredibly awkward and uncomfortable. He was flailing and throwing out half ass town read towards Nutella and weird pushes on players for reasons he then tr others on.

He has no real direction to go towards. He was pushing on Rask early and since Rask dropped off he didn't continue to push there. His omgus on me. He doesn't have a solid grasp of the game and game state.

His posting just feel devoid of any passion or solving. He feels like he's dragging himself. He was gone for 24hours and had nothing to say about what happened in the game. Just isoed two players and washed his hands of the game.

Lack of engaging with others.

If im right about a team of petit/deezee im a fucking GOAT.

Upob checking your ISO, i noticed we had similar views with regards on Valentine. You mentioned that she is playing the new player card which is the impression i got from one of her reads and i asked how long she's been playing and she said she;s been playing for a while, so, no new player card for her.

Im keeping my eye on her

I said new player to the site card. As someone who played on 7 new sites in the last 3 months I know how it feels D1 so I'm giving them space.

Also if we are aligned, why are you still voting me.

Am i?

[Sabiplz]

You never indicated in the thread you Unvoted me

[Sabiplz]

We are 9 hours from eod and once again 23 players and these are our "wagons":

Cape90 (2)
Creature (2) [Strawhenge vote does not count]
Le petit (2)
Sabiplz (2)

This game state is shitty. There is no consensus or anything.

[Guillotine]

my dream is to be twinning with chelsea

I hope you get night killed.

I hope you get night killed.

me? silly little me?

I hope you get night killed.

me? silly little me?

yes you. go get night killed or something idk. twinning with you? gross. yuck. HORRIBLE.

I hope you get night killed.

me? silly little me?

yes you. go get night killed or something idk. twinning with you? gross. yuck. HORRIBLE.

i think it's cute how our avatars are like a little alike in colors !

(did we theatre enough yet)

(did we theatre enough yet)

the amount of times people have come back and tried to connect my banter as theatre makes me laugh so hard given theatre is like my biggest mafia flex I have .

This could be both theater and WIFOM combined. Chelsea/Valentine could be w/w for independent reasons and this.

[VOTE: Chelsea] aubergine

[Guillotine]

You never indicated in the thread you Unvoted me

Oh yah, i unvoted in the poll, forgot about doing so in thread

[Sabiplz]

We are 9 hours from eod and once again 23 players and these are our "wagons":

Cape90 (2)
Creature (2) [Strawhenge vote does not count]
Le petit (2)
Sabiplz (2)

This game state is shitty. There is no consensus or anything.

Adding Chelsea (2)

I would like some actual dynamic wagons yall. Wake up

[Guillotine]

22 out of 24ish pages read its 5 am for me im alr sleepy ill read the last 2 and all the extra ones that are gonna pop up while i sleep meanwhile here is my reads post from page 1 to 22

Sabi -> p#15 sr, only a scum would rickroll /hj. p#401 idk if the only solid tr sabi has being one of my sr is allignment indicative for sabi or skill issue indicative for me. Maybe both. p#495 lmfao sassy as fuck idk if allignment indicative but kinda based nonetheless. p#920 kinda offtopic but i would only recruit for games i wanna play myself so i get why other people would think the same.

Dz -> p#29 funny therefore townie. Idk i maybe take back the town read last time i played with him he was obvtowning and here i dont really get that vibe so maybe scumlean.

Cape -> p#45 NiA but good thoughts. p#228 wouldnt doing this cause him *not to* do the scummy thing and spewing the other way therefore nullifying the read?. p#284 this is gonna be another game of tr'ing cape is it. p#427 it is. p#674 cape stop being townie for 2 pages challenge (impossible) mindmeld on a bunch of stuff the bit i disagree with is not enough to make me wanna not tr this. Would reconsider if falcon does indeed flip scum or Le petit does.

Schiavetto -> p#79 sr cuz demands me to do work, too lazy. p#334 lmfao i kinda wanna tr cuz mindmeld. p#343 weird post to make idk if allignment indicative. p#350 this feels kinda forced to me. p#697 sr maybe. p#703 Chelsea not scum with Schia but then again im tr one and sr the other so duh.

Valentine -> It really is gonna cost all my willpower to not sr this just based on gimmick ngl. Which is bad since i usually sr people that complain about gimmicks. p#188 tr. She asked for it why not. p#361 agree with the first half of the post but could NaI statement. p#369 second statement i agree to in a row that could be NaI two together makes a tr... right?. p#439 this feels like way too scummy to actually be scum circleback to tr. p#508 this string of posts kinda screams newbie town but idk how much experience valentine has. p#528 absolutely based. p#558 gonna kind simp for cape here saying his approach being gentle matches perfectly what i felt his approach to me was on the mash we just finished and he was town there

LordQuas -> p#115 townie cuz agree kinda. / p#154 being hedgy is not necessarily a scum thing to do atleast not at the start of day 1. / p#554 sr cuz noticed chelsea to not get sr'd himself (half-jokeing). p#564 can tr this cuz he mindmelded with the person i mindmelded before, is that a thing even mindmeldception.

Le Petit -> p#124 why would dz lie about being drunk? not like he would be read townier or scummier for it.

Nut -> p#170 tr maybe. p#740 cape/nut not w/w together. Also the conclusion that he is 3p is curious idk if scum nut goes for that but unless im missremembering was it cape that mentioned smth about being three factions earlier? could have merit.

Guillotine -> p#181 how would someone being drunk or not be TMI unless you think dz went on scum chat just to say he is *not* drunk which would be weird. Sr. p#259 wdym how dz had said at that point he is drunk in thread. p#461 this argument kinda flops on the basis that... playstyle for scum differs heavily depending on the player like yea there is a standard for what is considered scummy but saying it all reduces to two ways to play on rvs is kinda an extreme made just to fit the argument, atleast thats the vibe i get. Now having said that idk if a scum would double down on the argument here but since idk your meta imma just keep my sr. p#500 lmao tempted to tr this based on being funny but ill pass.

Hollowkat -> p#196 tr maybe. p#435 funny thereforw townie p#505 tr

Creature -> p#250 based and agree kinda. p#304 funny therefore town. p#305 tr and kinda agree on hindsight on his read on the post below on nut. p#312 not hard to accomplish, i kinda sr schia based on vibes. p#880 physically unable to not tr this lack of given fucks.

Falcon -> p#286 sr based on vibes i feel like if i was town id care about smth else other than dz being drunk or not. p#383 sr based on kinda trying to discredit his reads over grammar altho this might be a reach. p#447 sr and prolly not w/w with sabi so ig im tr'ing Sabi until falcon flips or i drop my sr on him whichever happens first. p#707 is it wrong i wanna sr him just cuz he sr's my towniecore? probably is, still gonna do it.

Inaword -> p#289 tr kinda. too lazy to p# all the posts from him since too many i like him, he should be town ill p# if i find smth particularly townie or smth i wanna ask. p#793 you cant stop me from tr'ing you based on volume, i refuse to be stopped.

risiinq -> p#295 and p#291 mindmeld therefore tr. p#317 tr

Chelsea -> p#515 tr maybe. p#520 evolve maybe into probably. p#572 evolve probably into most likely. p#574 fuck am i that predictable? well might aswell simp if i am.

DaughterOfOmega -> p#657 this is like the fourth or fifth joke post but i have not found any of them funny so far if funny = town then unfunny = scum so sr.

Floyd -> p#671 townlean

Pixxy -> p#821 lack of reasoning for the reads makes it harder to sr or tr it but based on the amount of stuff i disagree with on here imma just do a lazy scum lean and be done with it .

IBA -> p#845 Probably NaI but i dont like people not likeing a lot of posts so imma scumlean. p#988 NaI and Offtopic but i kinda agree with my past self, mafias are for fun if i deem someone to be annoying enough to damage the enjoyment i get out of the game i will ignore them and let someone else bother solving them.

Collins -> Idk what consensus is here on 3p's i usually leave them alone if they arent a direct threat to town and so far he doesnt seem to be one, i wouldnt be exactly opposed to lynching him but i would also prefer to lynch people based on thinking they are scum than going for him.

Windward -> trying to find a decent post challenge (impossible) sr or lazy town either case idc if he gets shot or wagoned.

Towniecore

Valentine
Cape
Creature
Chelsea

Town

Inaword
risiinq
LordQuas
Sabi

Town-lean

Hollowkat
Floyd

3P

Collins

Scum-lean

Dz
Le Petit
Guillotine
Pixxy
IBA
Nut
Windward

Scum

Schiavetto
Falcon
DaughterOfOmega

This readlist is crap. Notices the same think about Petit drunk reading DZ, sus me for believing they could be w/w for it and places me in the scum leans with both of them. Like wtf?

[TheFloyd73]

We are 9 hours from eod and once again 23 players and these are our "wagons":

Cape90 (2)
Creature (2) [Strawhenge vote does not count]
Le petit (2)
Sabiplz (2)

This game state is shitty. There is no consensus or anything.

Adding Chelsea (2)

I would like some actual dynamic wagons yall. Wake up

Do you think any of those five options have legs for bandwagons? MAYBE Creature, but I don't think there is a lot there, to be honest.

I agree with you though. For a game that's gone on for 27 pages thus far, the game feels stuck in limbo in regards to making much progress. Then again, I guess it's still D1.

[WindwardAway]

I iso'd creature and can't say I came out with a strong opinion on him. He just feels meh, like I do remember thinking he felt painfully towny when he was town in a game we were in before, but I also remember he kind of lurked there too so activity is the least of my concerns. Idk, I kind of feel like I would just let him do the self-resolve thing tomorrow, and if he doesn't either die tonight or self-resolve as promised tomorrow, we can yeet him then. There are other options for today, anyway.

I took a quick look at the few posts Le Petit Poussin has made and I see absolutely nothing that makes me want to townread them. They also have so few posts that I'm not sure it's fair to scumread them, so I'd still like to see more, but I do think their posts kind of stink on a general level, reading as commentary rather than contribution, and if it's true that they're a newbie then it's newbie wolfy tbh. If they're experienced, then idk what the heck they're doing.

[WindwardAway]

I'm fine keeping my vote on Cape
I could move to Poussin but it's very largely a shrugyeet from me
I wouldn't vote out Creature until tomorrow but I would absolutely turbo him if he fails to self-resolve
I haven't iso'd DZ and I need more time
I'm not sure I buy the case on Sabi but I haven't iso'd them either, I just notice that they've been active and prodding and stuff, like they asked me when I came into the thread to iso two names on their SR list and I think that's decent?

[Guillotine]

Guillotine -> p#181 how would someone being drunk or not be TMI unless you think dz went on scum chat just to say he is *not* drunk which would be weird. Sr. p#259 wdym how dz had said at that point he is drunk in thread. p#461 this argument kinda flops on the basis that... playstyle for scum differs heavily depending on the player like yea there is a standard for what is considered scummy but saying it all reduces to two ways to play on rvs is kinda an extreme made just to fit the argument, atleast thats the vibe i get. Now having said that idk if a scum would double down on the argument here but since idk your meta imma just keep my sr. p#500 lmao tempted to tr this based on being funny but ill pass.

Let me introduce myself. Im Guillo, the king of bastards, the sociopath of mafia, the fearless, the suicidal maniac, the unburnt, the world's best day 1 scum hunter, the best wolf to have ever lived, the hero town does not deserve but the one they need, the FPS prince, Macdougall's God Reader, TripleHaven's god reader, Alexa's god reader, creator of Deck Mafia, Liberator of slaves, the Omnipotent, the Mafia God.

I only post what i believe in and i dont care about making enemies while doing so.

[Sabiplz]

@WindwardAway Le. Petit isn't new. He's Rask from mu

[Guillotine]

Guillotine -> p#500 lmao tempted to tr this based on being funny but ill pass.

It was not meant to be funny, totally the opposite.