Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [GAME OVER - TOWN WIN]

[EnderWiggin]

Like claiming I'm pushing villagers when I was arguing for Tilg, who is illario's STATED HIGHEST SCUMREAD TODAY, yesterday is kinda fucking whack bruv

do you honestly thing you pushed tilg nearly as hard as you pushed any of ur other reads?

ill go recheck ur iso because i dont recall u pushing tilg very strongly but i could be wrong, if i am then thats my bad. but my recollection of ur strongest pushes were on people like porcha and seven and santy and me. i think thats mostly villas, i respect dyas reads so i could be wrong on seven in that grouping but overall it still doesnt look good. though if seven is a wolf then ur eod does look better i will admit.

I poked Tilg and no one bit and 90% of people were like "But this is why I don't think Tilg is scum" so I dropped it.

Pointless me trying to push it if people were going to be stubborn on it when I didn't have the ability to force it.

Porscha I still maintain is in wolf-meta. Until they show me they're not I will believe that.

You are you so not talking to you about you.

I don't recall super hard pushing on Santy? I did sus them for a bit to see what happened.

I actually recall sussing Tilg more clearly than Santy.

As for Seven, yeah, that EOD felt fucking unrealistic.

Still dunno if I don't scumread Seven.

[dyachei]

What actions are those? Since you mention my actions with respect to Aro, I am wholeheartedly confused, so please explain.

I think the way you're approaching the game in general is less natural than what you normally do. I think you're trying to force solves when you don't normally

What does this have to do with Aro's reputation on TS?

you asked about actions. That was a separate point to the pushing of the agenda if you read my post again

I think your actions on voting aro were kind of...trying to seem like you wanted something else but you didnt really

I asked about actions and very clearly specified I was curious you mentioning my actions with respect to Aro.

Walk me through my vote on Aro. What was going on and why might I have voted them when I did?

i dont remember your vote on aro in that much detail. Like why would i?

Dya: "Seanzie's actions all game have really confused me but I think he's probably played more games with aro on TS where aro is apparently revered."

You tell me. How does this sentence make an sense if you aren't somehow considering my actions with respect to Aro? Was it just shade then, to throw in the sentence about Aro's reputation (ftr I've only played one game with Aro, so I don't actually know them as a player well)?

they're 2 thoughts in 1 sentence. I probably worded it poorly. your actions all game have confused me. You have also likely played more games with aro on TS than me. Therefore you'd think he was a bigger threat than i would think he was

[Alison]

Idk what this aro is revered narrative is all about. I have not gotten that vibe. To me he is a good player but not a mafia god.

[EnderWiggin]

Also I probably should think through things I've let irl annoyance channel into game.

[dyachei]

Idk what this aro is revered narrative is all about. I have not gotten that vibe. To me he is a good player but not a mafia god.

ask mac

[Alison]

Porscha is probably volume tell outed

[santygrass]

Hmm I keep coming back about the Rondo vote on Porscha wehhh .

@MacDougall you had a read on Rondo right?

[MacDougall]

I am thinking of a PoE of probs...

1 in Dyachei / Seanzie
Porscha
Belzy
Rondo
Nanook

I think I am leaving wolves out of here, but its most likely to have a highest wolf to town ratio, if it makes any sense

Explain all plz?

[santygrass]

[VOTE: Porscha ] aubergine

[EnderWiggin]

My desire to flip ilario for an ego play is negligent to his alignment.

And it is an ego play. "I am the best and everyone needs to follow me to win" is literal definition of ego.

There are many people who try to be leaders who don't condescend everyone else in thread in the process.

Is a cop who asks people to follow their red check an ego player? What if it's a townie that has high confidence in their read to the point of a red check? Just vetoing players or asking a player to die isn't egotistical, IMO.

But that's beside the point. Wanting to flip a player in their town meta just because you personally dislike it is at least as ego by your standards no?

"We've seen what happens when people not-named Illario tries to lead a chaotic lobby"

=/=

"I have a redcheck/good read on x and they're wolfy."

Wanting to flip and expressing distaste is not the same at all either. Why are you arguing this anyway?

[Alison]

My desire to flip ilario for an ego play is negligent to his alignment.

And it is an ego play. "I am the best and everyone needs to follow me to win" is literal definition of ego.

There are many people who try to be leaders who don't condescend everyone else in thread in the process.

Is a cop who asks people to follow their red check an ego player? What if it's a townie that has high confidence in their read to the point of a red check? Just vetoing players or asking a player to die isn't egotistical, IMO.

But that's beside the point. Wanting to flip a player in their town meta just because you personally dislike it is at least as ego by your standards no?

"We've seen what happens when people not-named Illario tries to lead a chaotic lobby"

=/=

"I have a redcheck/good read on x and they're wolfy."

Wanting to flip and expressing distaste is not the same at all either. Why are you arguing this anyway?

Mostly because I have been really annoyed at the recent trend of people getting incredibly mad when they aren't pampered in games. Nothing to do with you just wanted to put it out there that people are called egotistical for being assertive too often.

[MacDougall]

@dyachei @Alison apologies if i missed but do you guys have reads on each other?

[santygrass]

I am thinking of a PoE of probs...

1 in Dyachei / Seanzie
Porscha
Belzy
Rondo
Nanook

I think I am leaving wolves out of here, but its most likely to have a highest wolf to town ratio, if it makes any sense

Explain all plz?

Its mostly reads on players out of that list that are either obvtown, or that I have reason to doubt that they are mafia.

So, I have trouble imagining a scum team with 0/1 players on that list. Does that make sense?

[Seanzie]

I think the way you're approaching the game in general is less natural than what you normally do. I think you're trying to force solves when you don't normally

What does this have to do with Aro's reputation on TS?

you asked about actions. That was a separate point to the pushing of the agenda if you read my post again

I think your actions on voting aro were kind of...trying to seem like you wanted something else but you didnt really

I asked about actions and very clearly specified I was curious you mentioning my actions with respect to Aro.

Walk me through my vote on Aro. What was going on and why might I have voted them when I did?

i dont remember your vote on aro in that much detail. Like why would i?

Dya: "Seanzie's actions all game have really confused me but I think he's probably played more games with aro on TS where aro is apparently revered."

You tell me. How does this sentence make an sense if you aren't somehow considering my actions with respect to Aro? Was it just shade then, to throw in the sentence about Aro's reputation (ftr I've only played one game with Aro, so I don't actually know them as a player well)?

they're 2 thoughts in 1 sentence. I probably worded it poorly. your actions all game have confused me. You have also likely played more games with aro on TS than me. Therefore you'd think he was a bigger threat than i would think he was

I still don't see what I have to do with Aro at all. I don't even think I interacted with them until EoD when I voted them to control the situation.

Even as two separate thoughts, the second one is weird to somehow focus on me with Aro.

[MacDougall]

Hmm I keep coming back about the Rondo vote on Porscha wehhh .

@MacDougall you had a read on Rondo right?

Most recent read was poe

[Alison]

@dyachei @Alison apologies if i missed but do you guys have reads on each other?

Dont have a strong read on dya

[Seanzie]

@dyachei @Alison apologies if i missed but do you guys have reads on each other?

Dont have a strong read on dya

Do you have a weak one?

[santygrass]

Also, I have some sort of mech reason to not want to go into dya/seanzie today because I could potentially either out or clear them in the future depending on some stuff

[Seanzie]

Mac why you not sus me?

[santygrass]

(not a check type of mech tho) but it weighs on how I tackle my PoE asofrn

[Alison]

@dyachei @Alison apologies if i missed but do you guys have reads on each other?

Dont have a strong read on dya

Do you have a weak one?

My weak read is that they lean town for being more interested in your slot than everyone else in the game combined which mildly points to genuine conviction about the read instead of just saying what they think will earn them brownie points

[MacDougall]

@santygrass what is your read on Lily and Neon again I forget?

They are both obvtown to me. Neon for their treatment of votes on Lily. Lily just reading their post should be clearing alone.

If you want to look at Lily read their case on me so you go with townreads ln both her and me tbhtbh

So Neon and Ilario are two of your top town.

Did you do anything to interrupt their ongoing conflict? Quite sure they are each other's top mafia read.

[MacDougall]

Mac why you not sus me?

I have not really made up my mind on you yet.

[santygrass]

@Chamomile Talk to me about Alison? I think your vote is on town and I dont see you making an effet to talk me through your read. (Iirc I pinged you about this already. If not dismiss it and I have skill issue)

[santygrass]

@santygrass what is your read on Lily and Neon again I forget?

They are both obvtown to me. Neon for their treatment of votes on Lily. Lily just reading their post should be clearing alone.

If you want to look at Lily read their case on me so you go with townreads ln both her and me tbhtbh

So Neon and Ilario are two of your top town.

Did you do anything to interrupt their ongoing conflict? Quite sure they are each other's top mafia read.

Yeah I did, read my latest post and you'll find it

[Chamomile]

A lot of people are saying Aro/wisp one wolf there. I am trying to find out why Millium could be scum, because most are leaning there. While doing so I actually feel less sure on Alison, who changes her read so easily and quickly, just to agree with others. My first read on Millium is also being agreeable, and being very active posting.

This! You should join my crew, just like luffy's crew in One Piece.

[santygrass]

Like, I didn not strong-arm my opinion but I made quite clear to them that I was tr'ing their push imo

[Alison]

I strongly suspect Cham is 3P with an alternate win condition

[Seanzie]

Mac why you not sus me?

I have not really made up my mind on you yet.

When has that ever stopped you from throwing sus around?

[dyachei]

Sean I've you get that Mac asked me who I would be most suspicious of on the aro wagon, right? That's where aro comes into this. He asked me to assume aro was a revered player and who would try to get him killed in that instance

[santygrass]

I strongly suspect Cham is 3P with an alternate win condition

I think thats prob just playstyle indicative of Seven.

For 3p im mostly sideeyeing you and nook asofrn . But idk not much point in discussing this

[MacDougall]

@Alison if you had 3 dayvigs who do you flip for max mafia death potential?

[dyachei]

Alison is lean town with reservations Mac.

[Seanzie]

Sean I've you get that Mac asked me who I would be most suspicious of on the aro wagon, right? That's where aro comes into this. He asked me to assume aro was a revered player and who would try to get him killed in that instance

Oh, I suppose that makes more sense. Purposefully elim 'em? I barely even know 'em!

[MacDougall]

Also, I think that Seven is probably town and I hate that I cant explain why

yeah its weird that you can't tbh

[Alison]

@Alison if you had 3 dayvigs who do you flip for max mafia death potential?

Tilg Porscha Santy

Be surprised if that doesn't yield a ripe harvest of pelts

[Chamomile]

I strongly suspect Cham is 3P with an alternate win condition

I think thats prob just playstyle indicative of Seven.

For 3p im mostly sideeyeing you and nook asofrn . But idk not much point in discussing this

Alison isn't 3p because she claimed to be a strong role which she wouldn't want to do as 3p as it would attract mafia's attention!

[santygrass]

Also, I think that Seven is probably town and I hate that I cant explain why

yeah its weird that you can't tbh

I think its a weird condition called Skill Issue

[MacDougall]

I think it is pertinent to analyse the Arogame voters to assess the sincerity of their vote reasoning. I think it is highly likely a wolf can be found from showing an illogical progression on voting Arogame. One that perhaps showed TMI earlier in the piece that he was town, and were too easily persuaded to vote on him from their perspective.

what a nonsense post. tilg and neon already outed themselves with their aro progression, what game are u reading?

@ilario i don't fully comprehend why me saying "we should analyse the arogame voters to find wolves" would invoke criticism from you when you have reads on 2 players as mafia for arogame voting? Why not just point them out? Why the heaped volumes of being a prick on it?

[santygrass]

I strongly suspect Cham is 3P with an alternate win condition

I think thats prob just playstyle indicative of Seven.

For 3p im mostly sideeyeing you and nook asofrn . But idk not much point in discussing this

Alison isn't 3p because she claimed to be a strong role which she wouldn't want to do as 3p as it would attract mafia's attention!

That strongly depends on what the 3p role is tho

[Seanzie]

Sean I've you get that Mac asked me who I would be most suspicious of on the aro wagon, right? That's where aro comes into this. He asked me to assume aro was a revered player and who would try to get him killed in that instance

Oh, I suppose that makes more sense. Purposefully elim 'em? I barely even know 'em!

Also if you are at all concerned about that, just go look at when I actually voted them. It was very close to EoD and they were trying to rally support for their "split the vote, low poster dies" trick and I voted them to help control the situation.

[MacDougall]

ftr im going to veto hard against any pushes on porcha,seven, santy, dya, nook, alison today. do i think this grouping is pure? probably not. but i think theres probably only 1 mafia here, 2 if we are very lucky but probably more like just 1 but worst case 0. but i think if we solve in this grouping we are most likely gonna spend a lot of days hitting villas only to maybe find a wolf after 3-4 days. its not efficient and game-losing play.

Alison is scum!!!

I'm not interested in yeeting any of the rest (or you) though. Also add in Mac.

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Maybe we chop Alison because Cham seems to have a red check.

[santygrass]

Me shielding alison so hard today and them dont caring in the slightlest to pocket me should be town indicative I think

[MacDougall]

When Ilario and Santy are not here the game feels measureable and solveable.

When they are here everything turns to chaos and stupidity.

ur the one whose derailed it into chaos and stupidity, im just mathcing u to get the lobby back on track from whatever the hell ur doing lol

You literally said you've only read posts that tag you. So why are you peddling pure nonsense? I literally was doing the opposite to this.

[Seanzie]

ftr im going to veto hard against any pushes on porcha,seven, santy, dya, nook, alison today. do i think this grouping is pure? probably not. but i think theres probably only 1 mafia here, 2 if we are very lucky but probably more like just 1 but worst case 0. but i think if we solve in this grouping we are most likely gonna spend a lot of days hitting villas only to maybe find a wolf after 3-4 days. its not efficient and game-losing play.

Alison is scum!!!

I'm not interested in yeeting any of the rest (or you) though. Also add in Mac.

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Maybe we chop Alison because Cham seems to have a red check.

Uhh...

[santygrass]

@Lilypetal you need to come back to the thread and put things in order tbh

[santygrass]

Most specifically your take on Porscha my queen, and where would you go if not there because you also said that Rondo was obvtown D1

[Chamomile]

Me shielding alison so hard today and them dont caring in the slightlest to pocket me should be town indicative I think

If you stay on this Alison town business, we'll have to come for you next when she flips red, my friend

I don't want that so please stop this and help me in the search for One Piece

[MacDougall]

Mac why you not sus me?

I've made my mind up on you now. I think you're my top town.

[Alison]

ftr im going to veto hard against any pushes on porcha,seven, santy, dya, nook, alison today. do i think this grouping is pure? probably not. but i think theres probably only 1 mafia here, 2 if we are very lucky but probably more like just 1 but worst case 0. but i think if we solve in this grouping we are most likely gonna spend a lot of days hitting villas only to maybe find a wolf after 3-4 days. its not efficient and game-losing play.

Alison is scum!!!

I'm not interested in yeeting any of the rest (or you) though. Also add in Mac.

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Maybe we chop Alison because Cham seems to have a red check.

They don't.