Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]

[Golden]

No if we win you gotta come back for GoC this year @Golden it’s mandatory

As long as the timing is good.

[Golden]

I’m not ‘done done’ I’m just scarce.

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: dfaraday] aubergine

Everyone else is doing it. I just want to be popular.

[Spacedaisy]

Vivax you didn’t vote in the poll, if you’d kindly do that it will help avoid confusion on your hosts part. I’m going to count your vote as an actual vote in the meantime unless you tell me you didn’t mean it as an actual vote.

Current Vote Tally:
DrWilgy —> DFaraday
Golden —> DFaraday
Vivax —> DFaraday
Sloonei —> DFaraday

DFaraday: 4

[Spacedaisy]

I saw I was tagged by Golden and then I started reading his reminiscing and I was like awe what is he going to say about me? “Thanks for inviting me back” I see where I rank.

[Golden]

I saw I was tagged by Golden and then I started reading his reminiscing and I was like awe what is he going to say about me? “Thanks for inviting me back” I see where I rank.

Hahahaha I was focused on the players

[Vivax]

Poll isn’t working for me. Not clickable

[Spacedaisy]

Poll isn’t working for me. Not clickable

Gotcha. Then I assume that is an actual vote and will keep it in the tally.

[Spacedaisy]

I saw I was tagged by Golden and then I started reading his reminiscing and I was like awe what is he going to say about me? “Thanks for inviting me back” I see where I rank.

Hahahaha I was focused on the players

A likely story Sanggolden

[sig]

Well I still can’t vote in the polls so

[VOTE: DF] aubergine

[sig]

Hopefully he’s mafia since I’m not really feeling having to try and solve this game lol

[Elohcin]

[VOTE: DF] aubergine

[Elohcin]

Yeah, poll's not working for me either.

[Spacedaisy]

Current Vote Tally:
DrWilgy —> DFaraday
Golden —> DFaraday
Vivax —> DFaraday
Sloonei —> DFaraday
sig —> DFaraday
Elohcin —> DFaraday

DFaraday: 6

[Spacedaisy]

Final Vote tally for Day 7

DrWilgy —> DFaraday
Golden —> DFaraday
Vivax —> DFaraday
Sloonei —> DFaraday
sig —> DFaraday
Elohcin —> DFaraday

DFaraday: 6

The thread is now locked and the post will be up as soon as possible. Epi is tied up with work for just a little bit here, it shouldn't be too long though.

[Epignosis]

"The first rule of DFaraday Club is you do not talk about DFaraday Club.

The second rule of DFaraday Club is you do NOT talk about DFaraday Club.

Third rule of DFaraday club…someone yells stop, goes limp, taps out, fight is over.

Fourth rule- only two guys to a fight.

Fifth rule- one fight at a time fellas.

Sixth rule- no shirts, no shoes.

Seventh rule- Fights will go on as long as they have to."

A hand raised.

“Yes?”

A timid voice answered. “It’s Day 7. Day 7. Game 2 is already over, and they started after us. Why are we still doing this?”

It was DFaraday, who hadn’t said much up until this point.

Tyler Durden smiled and put a hand on DF’s shoulder.

“And the eighth and final rule of DFaraday Club: If you are DFaraday, you have to fight Gilbert.”

Spoiler: show

DFaraday has been lynched. He was Tangrowth.

It is now Night 7. You have until 8pm ET to submit your PMs.

[Epignosis]

Doctor Thomas Light and Doctor Albert Wiley appeared on stage together to debate if robots would surpass humans.

Dr. Wiley argued that robots eventually would. He demonstrated a number of robots. "All these could automate a number of boring things, like cleaning the house, making whoopie, or playing mafia!"

Dr. Light brought out Mega Man. "Are you kidding Wiley? Look at him. Look at Mega Man. This idiot will never understand love, the meaning of life, or The Three Stooges!"

This debate went on for some time.

Eventually a third doctor came forward. He was the presenter. "I am pleased to announce that the winner of this debate is none other than..." He licked his finger to turn the page. "DOCTOR-"

But before he could finish, the robots on either side obliterated him, having mistook the word "winner" for "dinner."

Everyone dutifully filed out so that the janitorial robots could clean up.

Spoiler: show

DrWilgy has been Night killed. DrWilgy was The Socky.

It is now Day 8. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

[DrWilgy]

Well shit. Was fun y'all. Really good seeing some old faces again, hopefully we get more games together.

[DrWilgy]

also rez plz

[Scotty]

>ring ring
>hello, I’ve been talking with Gandhi
>he just wanted me to tell you all

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don’t forget to drink your ovaltine

[Vivax]

Looks a bit like a signature kill
The game flavour tells quite a bit about the players too sometimes and is an enjoyable read.

[sig]

Damn I hate when I’m near the end and one of the more active players.

@Vivax @Golden

Whatcha both thinking right now

[sig]

I’m almost solid on my thoughts but want to hear what others say first

[Golden]

Damn I hate when I’m near the end and one of the more active players.

@Vivax @Golden

Whatcha both thinking right now

That I have done no compatability reads on anyone left. And I feel tired thinking about the need to do them, but I'm gonna start tonight, because I think tell me a lot more than my gut.

But, for the hell of it, my gut list from 'least likely to be scum' to 'most likely to be scum' before I undertake the reads is:

Vivax
Elo
Sig
Sloonei

Vivax, I've had a gut read on for a while - I like his hunting. He presses, but he doesn't give all his cards away.
Elo, I've had in my town core since her possible town slip, but I haven't been paying attention to her.
Sig, I've never eliminated from my PoE based on what's happened in the game - that's not the same thing as a scum read though.
Sloonei - Given the scotty flip, sloonei is not a mason as I thought he was all game, and there's some specific stuff in the way he interacted with my mason read that I need to revisit but don't have me feeling great right now.

I just realised it's kind of ironic that Elo and Sloonei are both still here and alive given day 1.

[Golden]

Perhaps in the interests of sharing the load we could endeavour to take one person each and quote-share key interactions - we don't all have to reach the same conclusions, but having some quotes for interactions and whatnot might help all of us.

There was a time when I would have wanted to do all of them but I don't feel like I have that kind of time in this day phase.

[Golden]

Verily, I say unto thee, my brothers and sister- this game looks awesome. Let's have some fun!


PS- Could the hosts include the player list in the OP or somewhere? I'd like to start setting up my spreadsheet... old-school style!

Vastly disappointed with myself. EBWOP- Verily, I say unto thee, my brothers and sisters- this game looks awesome. Let's have some fun!

It’s just the one sister, actually.

I started isoing sloonei and... is this something he'd say if bad? It would be super on the nose in his second post - to reply to G-Man with the gender balance of their collective team.

[Golden]

Pedantic Pink
Gets a one shot role check, but they can only use it on someone who has made a grammatical or spelling error. You must quote the post where the error can be found in your night target PM to the host. If your chosen post does not actually contain an error, your role check fails and it cannot be used again.

Also given my tendency to not A. Double check my posts 2. Care about grammar that much and C to play on my phone this role definitely feels targeted against me.

I wish you good duck with that.

And Sloonei's third post

Immediately, I would say that for Sloonei to be bad in this game, he'd have to be playing with a level of deliberate wifom that I personally haven't experienced of him. Do any of the rest of you have experience with a full-wifom from the jump Sloon?

(Also if this is wolf Sloonei, I admire this level of wifom. I'm not sure I'd be able to pull it off.)

[Golden]

That being said, I actually think sig coming out and throwing caution to the wind with regards to his spelling and grammar is townie, if not reckless. Could be WIFOM, but that role is incredibly restrictive to my *vibe* which comes with autocorrect errors and incomplete sentences. So I get it.

The grammar police role is mafia. Making typos does not benefit town.

What is your specific point here @Sloonei? You made a deliberate typo yourself a few posts above, so it can't be 'town shouldn't make typos'.

[Golden]

Quin is town.

Why should I believe you?

Because I’ve read books.

More wifom, but playful banter wifom.

[Golden]

You get to the end of day one on sloonei and he really does actually feel genuinely solvey in that period.

And I also note that (without me recalling this in particular at all) he was really on Vivax's ass.

@Vivax I know it was in your indy capacity not your current capacity, but what was your perception of Sloonei going after you on day one?

[Golden]

Current vote count (15 min left)

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bea
0
No votes
Voters: None
DFaraday
0
No votes
Voters: None
DharmaHelper
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Elohcin
2
7%
Voters: Quin, Michelle
fingersplints
0
No votes
Voters: None
G-Man
1
3%
Voters: DharmaHelper
Golden
2
7%
Voters: G-Man, DrWilgy
Kate
0
No votes
Voters: None
thellama73
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lorab
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
NotAnAxehole
0
No votes
Voters: None
Quin
2
7%
Voters: Scotty, Golden
Scotty
1
3%
Voters: Kate
sig
1
3%
Voters: sig
Sloonei
4
14%
Voters: NotAnAxehole, fingersplints, Vivax, thellama73
Vivax
2
7%
Voters: Sloonei, Elohcin

Stronger than yourself?

I have no read on myself.

I also have no interest in voting for Quin out of self-preservation.

OK, so this is an interesting juncture.

Sloonei has no interest in voting Quin out of self preservation. At this point, Vivax has 2 votes (including Sloonei), Quin has 2, Elohcin has 2. Sloonei has 4.

Sloonei already declared Quin his top town read before this. So, I think there's justification for any alignment Sloonei to stick to that and go for Eloh to self-preserve rather than Quin. But if he's wolf and he voted for Quin, it would have been likely a day 1 w/w situation.

On the flip side, the two votes for Elohcin at that point were Quin and Michelle. So, two mafia. The last two votes on that wagon were Sloonei and the slot that is currently Vivax 2.0. I feel like it would be an awfully bold move for three out of four baddies to be on the same four vote wagon on day one.

My takeaway from day one is essentially that if Sloonei is mafia, he was a consistently bold, wifom-y mafia who did not care that these connections could be found by a thorough examination of day one. But also, I believe day one is where connections are found most cleanly and obviously, before the mafia know how the thread will take.

[Golden]

We're not killing mafia today.

That being said, if not sloonei, then vivax. Also, Elo still a good kill.

maybe i will be here, because i can't seem to look away. this is the problem with a work-from-home job.

I have no plans on helping you live through the day. But my Spidey sense says that you will somehow.

@Sloonei since day 1 these posts have been quite meaningful in terms of my read on the slot occupied by Vivax 2.0. I have felt that Vivax has most likely been town on the back of them.

You, on the other hand, have fairly consistently chased Vivax 2.0 during the game. What are your thoughts on these posts. Do they move the needle for you?

[Golden]

Players I Have a High Degree of Trust In Right Now:
Golden
Scotty
Quin

Players I Trust a Bit, But Not As Much As Those Guys:
thellama
New Vivax
Michelle

Players That Are In A Vague Blob of Uncertainty:
bea
DFaraday
DrWilgy
G-Man
Kate
Sig

Players I Have Had Reasons to Suspect, But Have Also Seen Glimpses of Town:
Elohcin
LoRab

DharmaHelper:
DharmaHelper

Sloonei, how do you feel about this reads list (specifically, the people still living from it) at this point in the game?

And why, after being the person who specifically called out Elo's potential townslip, did you have her this low?

[Golden]

@Vivax @thellama73 Quin wagon is dead. Choose Lorab or DH if you are around.

Not much value in me calling out the number of times Sloonei actively defending Quin on day 2 (there were many, and I think they're memorable).

This one, towards the end, is perhaps the most interesting though.

Once again, through two days, if we have w!sloonei we have a bold version who disregards any concern of connection.

[Golden]

[VOTE: G-man] aubergine

I'll be our vote guinea pig today, and they are indeed still changeable.

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Visions of Day 1’s of old are running through my mind. I’m not inclined to just let it go in the undisciplined manner of yesteryear. I need more meat to chew on from everyone first. I’m thankful that my night away coincided with Night 0 instead of the first half of Day 1.

Early game G-man seems to take an active posture, at least with regards to Day 1. My instinct is to say he has not followed through on this. But let's see.

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That being said, I actually think sig coming out and throwing caution to the wind with regards to his spelling and grammar is townie, if not reckless. Could be WIFOM, but that role is incredibly restrictive to my *vibe* which comes with autocorrect errors and incomplete sentences. So I get it.

The grammar police role is mafia. Making typos does not benefit town.

Valid point indeed! But the civvies have an adverb checker, so we should play it old school like when lie detector roles were still in vogue and pressure everyone to post a unique adverb. Anyone who resists must die.

G-man acknowledges that Pedantic Pink has no town utility, but the adverb checker does. Neat. Appreciated, but not alignment indicative.

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Bea: *Lick*
G-Man: *Lick*

Vagrant doctor, why for art hast thou lickest me? Dost thy tongue perceive me in a particular manner?

Acknowledges being thoroughly licked by DrWilgy. Noted.

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I have an idea of who the mafia is, but it's not who I'm voting at the moment. Though, the person I'm voting may also be mafia, who knows.

I do not like this post, nor do I like the vote for Bea. Mind you, I think voting for Bea in general is reasonable because people always tend to trust her, which makes her dangerous on the occasions when she is mafia, but Axey’s vote came without explanation and was a pile on after a (marginally) more justified vote.

Also, why would you not vote for who you think the mafia is?

I’ve learned to just disregard Axe in D1 because he does this as town, mafia, independent and axehole

That is some effective R o L e F I S h i N g

For anyone who misunderstood my intent.

I understand the concept of throwing out votes in movable-vote games to gauge reactions, but at the same time that can be a cop out way to excuse bad behavior. If you successfully start a wagon with your vote, you get what you want, but if it doesn't take you can just claim it was for role fishing and claim immunity from any criticism. Don't expect me not to evaluate you based on your behavior just because you claim it doesn't mean anything.

Viral infections sometimes have a sweeter disposition than NAA early on in games. It is true that he comes across in the same abrasive manner regardless of alignment. If you play a few games with him, you will either 1) learn to ignore some of his punchier tendencies, or 2) auto-sus him anyway because even though it's NAI, it's also not a reason to NOT sus him.


And let's keep in mind that there is a 3P role out there when we're reading people; we're not just living in a binary system.

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We got two TRs on sig from Scotty, then Golden. I'd agree with them I think.

I wonder why Eloh didn't post more when confronted with two townreads that went against his considerations that sig could be mafia.
Eloh's explanation for sig sus reads a bit stretched too. Would be my early whiff for a start.

Judging from my perspective I don't consider others' reads except they are my town reads. Had Eloh said they town read Scotty and Golden? Because if not, why do you think they should post more and reconsider?

Popping in. I’ll be driving most of the day, and so I can do so safely, will not be posting and driving. But I will try to check in on stops.

Note well use adverb above, as well as in this sentence.

Looking forward for your input

Votes should be expressed in the thread though, like this:
[VOTE: Vivax] aubergine

Let the little man whisper!

I will HAPPILY use an adverb, but it may take me a while to get used to the vote tag thing. Have patience.

I would say it is something to consider.

I'm not a fan of changing votes. I like to take the day to interact and observe without being hasty.

Sig says votes are changeable. I don't see how he could have known this before voting. I can only find him sus right away as his hasty vote would most likely land on a civ.

Yeah if only there were a role that explicitly stated (hey look guys, adverb. I'm multitasking!) that votes were changeable.

Maybe Eloh missed that part, though. I guess if it were an indie role or a mafia role, and Eloh were a civ and had no reason to read up on the mafia/indie sides of things, that could be it.

But if that role were not an indie or mafia role, and Eloh were a mafia or an indie and would have reason to be more focused on that side of the board, I could see a world where Eloh might forgo reading up on the civ side of things.

So, rule number 5 says the "votes are changeable. MAYBE." Then, I did read the roles including Moveable Votes, but didn't understand it. I was looking at it like a RULE and not a ROLE, probably b/c I had been in the car all day traveling. But I just had a lightbulb moment looking back at it now after a good night's sleep! So, I definitely get it now.

I no longer suspect sig atm. We shall see what's to come.

I didn't ask for adverbs, I asked for voting using the vote bbcode in the thread for transparency

Right, so Sig is obviously mafia, right?

This one

I refused to take it seriously, which I suspect is the point.

That post generated the whole discussion though

This one

I refused to take it seriously, which I suspect is the point.

Correct.

I was about to ask!

An unserious post can generate serious discussion.

I don't know what to make of you yet. I like that you're constantly in motion, but it's too early to determine if it's just artifice this time around.

There would be nothing more ‘classic mafia’ than DF being D1 lynched for low posting.

Hopefully they posts and we can make a read because lynching a low poster at random is a coin flip.

I want to chop a baddie today, but if we have to mischop, then I'd rather we be wrong about a player whose interactions we can parse through for clues than someone who leaves us stranded in a field with a bag of sand to pound.

Big post. A couple things worth pulling out here.

First, G-man offers a (very) soft defense of NAA (now Vivax) by assuring others that his style is not alignment indicative.
This is followed up by a seeming non sequitur about the existence of a third party role. I do not know why this observation was placed here.
G-man also offers a slightly favorable view of DH, and expresses his preference to target high-activity players on Day 1. I don't necessarily agree with this approach, but I see where it is coming from and do not believe it is indicative of any particular alignment.

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[VOTE: Elohcin] aubergine

So many little pings going off, but lacking the theory of mind as a civ and tying yourself up in ‘that’s why you’re bad, actually that makes you civ’ logic is enough for a vote.

I seem to recall baddie Eloh being guilty of being too agreeable. I'm not sure we're seeing the same thing here, coward.

G-man seems to disagree with the Day 1 suspicion against Eloh. Noted. I do not know how far that case had progressed prior to this moment, but this is G-man's first mention of the Eloh suspicion. I'll be interested in how this develops. Eloh and I were the top two wagons that day, and I do not recall G-man expressing any strong opinions about me. If he was similarly on the sidelines for Eloh, then I may have some real concerns here.

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Very early groupings from a Day 1 dunce:

I'm not inclined to chop anyone with a lower post count than myself, so that means a stay of execution for LoRab, DF, and Kate for now. Let them establish themselves for at least the night phase and we'll see what shakes out.

I feel good about Llama, so he's off the list for now as well. I don't see what some folks are seeing in Eloh (who has been classic mischop bait in the past).

Vivax is shiny and new to me, so I'm inclined to give them the BOTD for now.

I feel like chopping from the top half of the post count will yield the most content to pick through, so that leaves me with a prospective list of Scotty, Sloonei, Golden the Coward, DH, bea, Michelle, and NAA.

Seeing that the Rez Plz event includes only players who die without flipping, I might hesitate to mischop a few of those names because of their potential utility as rezzable civs. I hope that you all can make my decision-making process easier on me by doing things that sort you all out a little more by the time I'm eating my breakfast in the morning.

Lovely bunch of reads here. Thank You, G. This reads primarily like a checklist of people not to vote for. That is not the worst thing in the world. POE and all that. But this is a continuation of a trend in G-man's posts where he is unable or unwilling to name any suspects. This can sometimes be a sign of a mafioso who either does not want to cause conflict, or is simply struggling to generate fake suspicions.

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Voting for Golden the Coward for poopooing on my attempts to sort out game mechanics to the civvies’ advantage. He’s also high post-count, which gives us lots to chew on, right or wrong. His tone is pretty level, but that (along with his posting volume) could be a ploy to place him right at radar level. He’s present, posting, and engaged. At this early stage it’s easy enough to give someone like him a pass for a few days just on those qualities alone.

[VOTE: Golden the Coward] aubergine


I have a meeting tonight that may push right up to eod. I’ll hang around up to the start of the meeting, but I can’t promise that I’ll make it back before the flip.

I don't care for this vote and I feel like both justifications (Golden is "poopooing" G-man mechanics talk, and Golden has a high post count) are both crutches of sort. This feels like a vote cast out of obligation rather than earnest suspicion. Perhaps I feel this way because G-man states these points very bluntly, suggestive of confidence, but has previously expressed absolutely nothing resembling a suspicion against anyone prior to this moment. It does not jive with the rest of his content.

Noting that Day 1 ends without G-man ever really weighing in on the main wagons. I understand that he was not present for much of the day, but that is still less-than-inspiring. Sloonei has received no unique mentions.

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Vanishing for most of the phase was not my intention. Here is a short version of what I have so far:

Several tiers based on participation-

Big Talk- Scotty, Sloonei, Golden coward, DH- I would be shocked if there wasn’t a baddie in that group. Maybe two, but lots of productive chatter for the most part.

Llama in a tier of his own, but I still feel loose llama is good llama.

VivAxe or Viv2.0, Eloh, Michelle, Quin- mixed bag here. Eloh was sussed yesterday, Viv2.0 is a reset and still murky on D1 NAA read, Michelle feels most ambiguous (her posts didn’t make any impression on me), and same goes for Quin. These folks are at radar-level. I need to ISO to see if I detected a skimmer.

Kate, sig, Bea, Wilgy- 1/2 seem off the table today and the sig is less memorable that Wilgy licking everything in sight. Under the radar crew- also need ISOs to find manufactured content.


G-Man, LoRab, DF- low posters. Not ideal to find myself in that camp that must be ‘dealt with’ before too long. I saw points about LR’s evasiveness but I’m not exactly one to harp on that without being a hypocrite just yet. DF… just needs to show up for the weekend and get some content before he becomes an afterthought to everything happening in the present.

I will try to speed read the day and make a vote after I get back from wife’s birthday dinner.

Too many null reads for me right now- not a good look. Need to get my head back in the game and sort out some townclears to help my poe.

Groups based on post volume with llama as the only player who gets singled out with his own read. I would like to see G-man start giving players more individual focus.

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Voting LoRab. DH has been producing content. Another day to evaluate is warranted to see if it holds up. Sorry to tie it up. Not trying to cause chaos this time.

[VOTE: LoRab] aubergine

Let the moderator decide.

G-man spent a significant portion of Day 1 pontificating about the value of voting for high-volume players rather than low-volume players.
On Day 2, he makes a last-minute return to the thread and casts a tying vote against a player who he had just categorized as a "low poster" in his previous post. G-man had specifically acknowledged the case against LoRab and then excused himself from participating in the rhetoric against her. The alternative wagon to LoRab, meanwhile, was one of G-man's "Big Talk" players in DH. He had explicitly said that he believes at least one, perhaps two, members of that four-player group could be mafia.
So G-man elected to vote for LoRab over DH yesterday, despite having previously given stronger indications that he should favor a DH vote in more ways than one. Noted.

I'll end this post here and review G's Day 3 ISOs on their own.

This ISO has taken my vote from "Let's talk about G-man" to, "Hey, maybe we really should be voting for G-man."

Easily the most town thing I've found with Sloonei yet. He casts the very first vote for G-Man, then goes away to do work to reduce his PoE, and comes away from his thread read of G-Man with an increased view of getting him lynched. I don't think this was necessary if Sloonei and G-Man were teammates.

[Golden]

Do you still feel this way, as opposed to say, Llama? Llama had a ton of content.

I'm going to read a bit, be on and off.

I’d vote for llama at this point.

Wanting fingersplints back was more an emotional response to losing a friend too soon.

But llama was my top town read (read alone, there are others I have as town based on placing them in specific roles. No clue on llama’s role).

I also think splints is more likely a wifom kill and llama more likely a defensive kill, could be wrong but that’s my instinct.

I noticed a potential Golden townslip yesterday but didn't say anything because I figured it wasn't necessary, and there was a chance he was fishing. Llama seems to be at least momentarily unaware that llama is dead. I feel like this is less likely to happen if he was one of the people responsible for butchering the llama.

I don't know if Sloonei says this if bad...

You know, I was planning on coming out of this iso with a "world that explains mafia sloonei" and a "world that explains civ sloonei" to weigh them up but...

This is as far as I've gotten so far, and it's really hard for me to make sense of a world that has a mafia sloonei.

He has to be majorly wifom, then full defend one of his teammates, then full bus one of his other teammates... it's messy, in a way that just doesn't feel like a coherent scum plan.

Also, now being fairly confident sloonei is no mason, and reading through just his iso again... I have yet another role in mind for him

Sloonei's gone way up my list from this read, glad I did it.

[Golden]

Might finish it off but I feel fairly satisfied with where I got to and sloon disengages from here. So if others don't pick up the slack, I'll go for a pass at someone else tomorrow.

[sig]

I’ve got a really hard time civ reading sloonie partly it’s since his play style is very different than a normal town sloonie, part gut/Scotty, and part voting records.

My thing is even if he’s semi disengaged at this point in the game there’s enough meat to throw some content out.

On the other hand I’d hate to go full buckle down on lynching all the inactive players just for them all to be town

[sig]

I’ve got a really hard time civ reading sloonie partly it’s since his play style is very different than a normal town sloonie, part gut/Scotty, and part voting records.

My thing is even if he’s semi disengaged at this point in the game there’s enough meat to throw some content out.

On the other hand I’d hate to go full buckle down on lynching all the inactive players just for them all to be town

[sig]

Also any insight on why Wilgy would get the ax?

It’s odd given he was in some players Poe still

[Vivax]

Not gonna lie I have no confidence whatsoever on my last guess and have to reread a metric buckton of material.
Wilgy kill made me sus sig initially (maybe you've caught the little wordsplay with 'signature') but that on its own is just a crappy way of trying to figure it out.
Another thing that comes to mind is Quin calling my performance stellar during D1 which makes me think M!Sloonei isn't out of this world.

Golden I'll treat as town based on a lot of believable uncertainty and posts that'd just be utterly pointless for a last remaining mafia to make.
As for his question, I'll get back to it once I've reread. Off the top of my head I don't read too much into Sloonei's D1 tunnel.

[Vivax]

Question to other town :

When you just reread P1 while keeping in mind what the remaining mafia role is, who would you think it was?

[Vivax]

Cain and Abel remastered and inverted: Cheeky little brother provokes big brother until he tries to murder him, but the attempt fails as big brother discovers it was a hologram and that they live in the belly of a snake that encompasses the world.
The magical mirror that turns some into inverted versions of themselves when they look into it. Just like a retina works. But the snake doesn't bother with the occipital post-processing of the image, turning the entire world upside-down from what it used to be.

[Golden]

Question to other town :

When you just reread P1 while keeping in mind what the remaining mafia role is, who would you think it was?

The first couple of posts I quoted from Sloonei last night I believe are from page 1 and I was definitely thinking ‘this guy looks like pedantic pink specifically’…

But then I thought that looked less likely over time.

What do you think of the stuff I posted overnight? Can you read a scum plan into his collective approach to the first three days?

[Golden]

Not gonna lie I have no confidence whatsoever on my last guess and have to reread a metric buckton of material.
Wilgy kill made me sus sig initially (maybe you've caught the little wordsplay with 'signature') but that on its own is just a crappy way of trying to figure it out.
Another thing that comes to mind is Quin calling my performance stellar during D1 which makes me think M!Sloonei isn't out of this world.

Golden I'll treat as town based on a lot of believable uncertainty and posts that'd just be utterly pointless for a last remaining mafia to make.
As for his question, I'll get back to it once I've reread. Off the top of my head I don't read too much into Sloonei's D1 tunnel.

In old school days you could often find valuable information in the host posts (eg, when there were many explanations in the setup as to why someone would survive the kill, you could often work out the correct one), but I think intentionally hinting at the killer might be a step further than Epi would go.

[Sloonei]

Just gonna respond to the Golden posts where a response is warranted.

Verily, I say unto thee, my brothers and sister- this game looks awesome. Let's have some fun!


PS- Could the hosts include the player list in the OP or somewhere? I'd like to start setting up my spreadsheet... old-school style!

Vastly disappointed with myself. EBWOP- Verily, I say unto thee, my brothers and sisters- this game looks awesome. Let's have some fun!

It’s just the one sister, actually.

I started isoing sloonei and... is this something he'd say if bad? It would be super on the nose in his second post - to reply to G-Man with the gender balance of their collective team.

This is a joke/reference to Hot Fuzz. I just got done hosting Hot Fuzz Mafia a few days before this game started. "It's just the one ____, actually" is a line from the film that I used multiple times in the game's flavor.

That being said, I actually think sig coming out and throwing caution to the wind with regards to his spelling and grammar is townie, if not reckless. Could be WIFOM, but that role is incredibly restrictive to my *vibe* which comes with autocorrect errors and incomplete sentences. So I get it.

The grammar police role is mafia. Making typos does not benefit town.

What is your specific point here @Sloonei? You made a deliberate typo yourself a few posts above, so it can't be 'town shouldn't make typos'.

I didn't know that Pedantic Pink was a mafia role until after I had responded to sig.

We're not killing mafia today.

That being said, if not sloonei, then vivax. Also, Elo still a good kill.

maybe i will be here, because i can't seem to look away. this is the problem with a work-from-home job.

I have no plans on helping you live through the day. But my Spidey sense says that you will somehow.

@Sloonei since day 1 these posts have been quite meaningful in terms of my read on the slot occupied by Vivax 2.0. I have felt that Vivax has most likely been town on the back of them.

You, on the other hand, have fairly consistently chased Vivax 2.0 during the game. What are your thoughts on these posts. Do they move the needle for you?

I do not assign much weight at all to these posts, and do not know why you would do so either.

[Elohcin]

It's sloonei or vivax for me. I'dlike to hear form both of them why I should think they are civ. Golden's point on Sloonei are pretty damning. And I just can't shake the feeling that vivax is no good.

[Sloonei]

I’ve decided I won’t be voting for vivax.

[Sloonei]

It's sloonei or vivax for me. I'dlike to hear form both of them why I should think they are civ. Golden's point on Sloonei are pretty damning. And I just can't shake the feeling that vivax is no good.

What damning points has goldwn raised against me?

[Golden]

I’ve decided I won’t be voting for vivax.

This is a switch from where you’ve been. Is this switch triggered by you doing any form of specific thread reading?