Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]

[Marmot]

Plus Kate is the best

I won't disagree with this statement.

[Marmot]

I'm quite happy with my vote for marmot right now. The way he reacted to it is not in keeping with what I'd expect from town marmot.

What would you expect from town Marmot?

He’d call me the cutest mafia.

What if I called you the cutest townie?

[S~V~S]

Yeah, Sabi is safe from me tonight, and I don't particularly see Sean as bad, so I'm leaving the vote where it is.

Doggo is looking to eat and go for a walk and I made him wait long enough. All enjoy this gigantic picture.

[Golden]

The amount of posts was also noteworthy to me, given your play in Game 1 of Anniversary and your status as the post count leader in that game.

Pingy ping pingy ping ping

I cannot imagine anyone who knows me even slightly would think ‘you know what? Civ golden is quieter than this. Must be mafia golden based on the last game.’

[Marmot]

@Seanzie have you gathered anything from the pressure on you atm? I'm having a hard time reading you, and I hope to remedy that given you're the lead wagon.

Since I'm the lead wagon, I am probably the least important person to read.

I don't have major feelz about things right now.

I want to know if I should vote you or shield you, and it seems like you're rolling over and dying, which makes the latter very hard even if it's the right move.

[S~V~S]

I am keeping my vote on Lucy for now, I see no town reason for actively trying to limit the suspicion pool to three people

this is shallow analysis, do you think I was ever limiting my sus pool to 3 people?

I got that feeling when you focused on me/Kate/Jack too. You said something about wanting to understand our situation but it gave me the impression you were ignoring everything else.

oh, I just come off like that, usually people aren't really aware that i'm not constantly hyperfocused on one thing at a time (also this is disputed by my mom and brother lol)

Hey Lucy, feel free to ignore this question if it’s too personal. It’s helpful for me.

You neurodiverse?

bingo

I am as well; the syndrome formerly known as Aspergers. Now stop trying to make me feel like a bad person, Golden.

[Golden]

I am keeping my vote on Lucy for now, I see no town reason for actively trying to limit the suspicion pool to three people

this is shallow analysis, do you think I was ever limiting my sus pool to 3 people?

I got that feeling when you focused on me/Kate/Jack too. You said something about wanting to understand our situation but it gave me the impression you were ignoring everything else.

oh, I just come off like that, usually people aren't really aware that i'm not constantly hyperfocused on one thing at a time (also this is disputed by my mom and brother lol)

Hey Lucy, feel free to ignore this question if it’s too personal. It’s helpful for me.

You neurodiverse?

bingo

It’s not out of the question that this is why I town read you.

Me too.

[Seanzie]

@Seanzie have you gathered anything from the pressure on you atm? I'm having a hard time reading you, and I hope to remedy that given you're the lead wagon.

Since I'm the lead wagon, I am probably the least important person to read.

I don't have major feelz about things right now.

I want to know if I should vote you or shield you, and it seems like you're rolling over and dying, which makes the latter very hard even if it's the right move.

I'm not really rolling over and dying, I just don't think you have the threadpresence to affect EoD.

[Golden]

I am keeping my vote on Lucy for now, I see no town reason for actively trying to limit the suspicion pool to three people

this is shallow analysis, do you think I was ever limiting my sus pool to 3 people?

I got that feeling when you focused on me/Kate/Jack too. You said something about wanting to understand our situation but it gave me the impression you were ignoring everything else.

oh, I just come off like that, usually people aren't really aware that i'm not constantly hyperfocused on one thing at a time (also this is disputed by my mom and brother lol)

Hey Lucy, feel free to ignore this question if it’s too personal. It’s helpful for me.

You neurodiverse?

bingo

I am as well; the syndrome formerly known as Aspergers. Now stop trying to make me feel like a bad person, Golden.

Oh yes I forgot you were too! This is really quite a new revelation for me, I’ve learned a lot in the last few years on that front.

[Sabiplz]

Just got off work.

Catching up

[Marmot]

The amount of posts was also noteworthy to me, given your play in Game 1 of Anniversary and your status as the post count leader in that game.

Pingy ping pingy ping ping

I cannot imagine anyone who knows me even slightly would think ‘you know what? Civ golden is quieter than this. Must be mafia golden based on the last game.’

I actually thought that somewhere there was discussion about this after the game, and I thought that discussion suggested that w!Golden likes control the thread and post a lot, but I'm having trouble finding that statement anywhere.

I did find a statement (from you, so I'll take it with a grain of salt), that suggested that you post far more fluff as town, so my suspicion has waned.


I'm still wary of you in the event that Sean flips wolf, but I don't currently find you that suspicious.



Also, it's been so long since I've played with you that I don't really remember your playstyle that well (I only remember distinct moments like G-Man calling you a coward).

[Golden]

It probably completely changes the way I read you now from how I used to, SVS.

[robyn]

Me too.

*hugs*

you too Marmot

and if I were older I'd definitely have been hit with an Aspergers diagnosis, I've been hit with an autism test when I was 4 and 17, dunno what happened while I was 4 but I got put into special ed until I wiggled out and took 12-14 AP's in hs

[robyn]

Just got off work.

Catching up

how do u like your job

[robyn]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

just seeing how this feels

try eating a spoonful of cinnamon instead, you’ll get the same result

will do

[robyn]

scotty can u link me 2 mafia games of yours

hmm, someone asked me this recently and i had to dig.
Most recent?

effing ancient

ty

[S~V~S]

Me too.

*hugs*

you too Marmot

and if I were older I'd definitely have been hit with an Aspergers diagnosis, I've been hit with an autism test when I was 4 and 17, dunno what happened while I was 4 but I got put into special ed until I wiggled out and took 12-14 AP's in hs

I was an adult, it explained a lot about my youth.

Do you think this is a thing that should be taken into account regarding suspicions?

Also, again, if not you who should I vote for?

[Sabiplz]

@Seanzie why did you Unvote me

[Golden]

The amount of posts was also noteworthy to me, given your play in Game 1 of Anniversary and your status as the post count leader in that game.

Pingy ping pingy ping ping

I cannot imagine anyone who knows me even slightly would think ‘you know what? Civ golden is quieter than this. Must be mafia golden based on the last game.’

I actually thought that somewhere there was discussion about this after the game, and I thought that discussion suggested that w!Golden likes control the thread and post a lot, but I'm having trouble finding that statement anywhere.

I did find a statement (from you, so I'll take it with a grain of salt), that suggested that you post far more fluff as town, so my suspicion has waned.


I'm still wary of you in the event that Sean flips wolf, but I don't currently find you that suspicious.



Also, it's been so long since I've played with you that I don't really remember your playstyle that well (I only remember distinct moments like G-Man calling you a coward).

You know how hard it is to pick up only one grain of salt?

[Marmot]

@Seanzie have you gathered anything from the pressure on you atm? I'm having a hard time reading you, and I hope to remedy that given you're the lead wagon.

Since I'm the lead wagon, I am probably the least important person to read.

I don't have major feelz about things right now.

I want to know if I should vote you or shield you, and it seems like you're rolling over and dying, which makes the latter very hard even if it's the right move.

I'm not really rolling over and dying, I just don't think you have the threadpresence to affect EoD.

You don't appear to be actively engaging in the thread at the moment, you've backed off of your suspicion of Sabi (and unvoted), and don't seem like you have much of a response to the votes on you.

It sorta does look like rolling over and dying.

[Sabiplz]

Also neuro divergent lol

[robyn]

The most pingworthy thing sabi has said on day one is that she thinks Wild Dennis should have a take on her on day one when they haven’t met before.

How was it pingy? Dennis hasn't played or met anyone except family members. He had a read on marmot but not me and atp in the game marmot barely had content.

So explain

He knows me, but it's some time since I've seen him IRL. I follow him on Facebook. I've known him since he was about 18 months old or so.

this is very relevant information, what do you think about Kate being indifferent to me, and you SRing me?

[Sabiplz]

@Golden I self meta because everyone who played with me will tell you my rep is I tunnel regardless. When I was mafia tunneled on the same town player for most of the game till I got him miselim and no one bath an lash because that is what I do as town and wasn't out of the norm.

[Golden]

Me too.

*hugs*

you too Marmot

and if I were older I'd definitely have been hit with an Aspergers diagnosis, I've been hit with an autism test when I was 4 and 17, dunno what happened while I was 4 but I got put into special ed until I wiggled out and took 12-14 AP's in hs

I was an adult, it explained a lot about my youth.

Do you think this is a thing that should be taken into account regarding suspicions?

Also, again, if not you who should I vote for?

Amazing how much it makes sense of eh!

For me, I spend so much of my mafia time machining what’s in a persons brain that made them decide to post a thing that it’s helpful in understanding that ie I might make different assumptions about the intent/meaning of a post.

[Golden]

@Golden I self meta because everyone who played with me will tell you my rep is I tunnel regardless. When I was mafia tunneled on the same town player for most of the game till I got him miselim and no one bath an lash because that is what I do as town and wasn't out of the norm.

I didn’t ask that question, I think it was svs. I’m cool with self-meta, I don’t necessarily 100% trust it but I think it has value.

[Seanzie]

@Seanzie why did you Unvote me

Because I felt like it.

[Golden]

I just need a better choice than Sean as a counter

[robyn]

Do you think this is a thing that should be taken into account regarding suspicions?

Also, again, if not you who should I vote for?

changed my answer, sabi because two wagons are better than one at eod, unless you wanna build a wagon, which I'm not opposed to, I just don't have a great idea on who as of now

[Marmot]

Me too.

*hugs*

you too Marmot

and if I were older I'd definitely have been hit with an Aspergers diagnosis, I've been hit with an autism test when I was 4 and 17, dunno what happened while I was 4 but I got put into special ed until I wiggled out and took 12-14 AP's in hs

I also have pseudo-diagnosed Aspergers (or high-functioning autism as they call it nowadays)



Welcome back to the thread, glgl

[S~V~S]

Also neuro divergent lol

I think a lot of people who play mafia probably are, it allows us to test out our social skills and adversarial interactions safely, and be as, shall we say, unusual as we like.

[Golden]

Also neuro divergent lol

Look, it’s a club!

[Seanzie]

@Seanzie have you gathered anything from the pressure on you atm? I'm having a hard time reading you, and I hope to remedy that given you're the lead wagon.

Since I'm the lead wagon, I am probably the least important person to read.

I don't have major feelz about things right now.

I want to know if I should vote you or shield you, and it seems like you're rolling over and dying, which makes the latter very hard even if it's the right move.

I'm not really rolling over and dying, I just don't think you have the threadpresence to affect EoD.

You don't appear to be actively engaging in the thread at the moment, you've backed off of your suspicion of Sabi (and unvoted), and don't seem like you have much of a response to the votes on you.

It sorta does look like rolling over and dying.

I'm not rolling over and dying, I just don't have any major feelz and I'm not going to make stuff up for the sake of it.

[robyn]

o you think this is a thing that should be taken into account regarding suspicions?

do you believe it explains my hyper fixation? or anything else about me? if yes then you should adjust your mental model of me, which therefore changes your read, but don't entirely drop read on me, simply see my actions from a different mindset that only you can create of mine. until then all I can do is talk more about the game which gives you more information in building a thought process that I follow

[Sabiplz]

Anti spew time

[Golden]

Anti spew time

You talking about Sean?

[Seanzie]

Anti spew time

You don't know me.

[robyn]

bea/sonej/fingersplits are good counterwagons, 1-2 posters

[Dennis]

@Seanzie why did you Unvote me

Because I felt like it.

I think this is what SVS meant by rolling over and dying. Doing things with no reasoning and refusing to elaborate seems pointless to me.

[Golden]

bea/sonej/fingersplits are good counterwagons, 1-2 posters

Beas first post was high-effort, don’t think she’s a good counterwagon.

Fingersplints complete absence is unusual.

[Sabiplz]

Anti spew time

You don't know me.

Then prove me wrong

[Marmot]

I feel very distracted

I don't want to kill sean. Him chilling on the sidelines while his wagon chills at 5 votes seems kinda townie for him imo.

Why? I don't know. Gut feeling I guess. I also do think of Sean as an active lurker in games, as in he's kinda always there and ready to respond to something that catches his eye, and that seems to be existing here.

[Marmot]

@Seanzie why did you Unvote me

Because I felt like it.

I think this is what SVS meant by rolling over and dying. Doing things with no reasoning and refusing to elaborate seems pointless to me.

Did SVS say that too?

[Seanzie]

Anti spew time

You don't know me.

Then prove me wrong

Considering the wagon on me, I think it is at least reasonably likely gman will do that for me.

[Golden]

I feel very distracted

I don't want to kill sean. Him chilling on the sidelines while his wagon chills at 5 votes seems kinda townie for him imo.

Why? I don't know. Gut feeling I guess. I also do think of Sean as an active lurker in games, as in he's kinda always there and ready to respond to something that catches his eye, and that seems to be existing here.

I really do think sean is a bad vote and we’re walking into entropy.

Even an anti-spew theory doesn’t align with unvoting, for me. That feels more like he reached a sabi townread.

[robyn]

Beas first post was high-effort, don’t think she’s a good counterwagon.

that's funny because I mafia read that post

[Seanzie]

I feel very distracted

I don't want to kill sean. Him chilling on the sidelines while his wagon chills at 5 votes seems kinda townie for him imo.

Why? I don't know. Gut feeling I guess. I also do think of Sean as an active lurker in games, as in he's kinda always there and ready to respond to something that catches his eye, and that seems to be existing here.

Do you think me being an active lurker is AI?

[Golden]

Beas first post was high-effort, don’t think she’s a good counterwagon.

that's funny because I mafia read that post

Do you know bea?

[Seanzie]

I feel very distracted

I don't want to kill sean. Him chilling on the sidelines while his wagon chills at 5 votes seems kinda townie for him imo.

Why? I don't know. Gut feeling I guess. I also do think of Sean as an active lurker in games, as in he's kinda always there and ready to respond to something that catches his eye, and that seems to be existing here.

I really do think sean is a bad vote and we’re walking into entropy.

Even an anti-spew theory doesn’t align with unvoting, for me. That feels more like he reached a sabi townread.

I don't townread Sabi, I just no longer really felt like they are a wolf.

[robyn]

That was a long 15 pages u just crammed into my brainz in like 2.5 hours.

So sorry for my absense. I did indeed miss that a) the game had started or b) i was actually playing! thanks again for the heads up!

As would be expected, I lost my day off yesterday and my open today has turned into an O/C so I will do my best to participate as best i can - just know my work is both physically and mentally exausting. And also apparently life consuming.

As for what I do remember -

Lots of inactive - myself included.

I saw exactly where svs was coming from. Tbh untill very recently in the thread I was proably going to vote sean. I am willing to see though that I may have just had a harder time seeing where he was coming from as this is my first game with sean.

My strongest town reads are shockingly - svs and kate. I know everyone is suprised by this.

Golden feels different this time round than last. I like that - doesnt mean he is clear yet.

Similarly - scotty feels similar to early last game - i like that too. Doesnt mean he is clear yet.

I like that roxy pushed golden some. I like that she called out splintsy and I.

Mata is engaging and that is so wonderful! Glad to see you again lady!!!

Jack and dennis are fun addutions. Welcome gentlemen!

Marrmot is bring very marrmoty. Excpected. I fear him. Gonna take some time before I think I could trust him.

Honestly not sure about most everyone. Which sucks as I have to vote before my dinner break is over in like 30 odd minutes.

I hate when rl makes me this lame. 2 games in a row is super frustrating.

2 reads, svs and Kate, there's 0 other substance to this post, how is it high effort or substantive?

[robyn]

Beas first post was high-effort, don’t think she’s a good counterwagon.

that's funny because I mafia read that post

Do you know bea?

I do not