Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]

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Who scorched Scotty?

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Dennis
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Roxy
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The CIA (host/mods/dead/non-player option)
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 2]

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S~V~S wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:20 pm
Golden wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:13 pm @Roxy hey I feel pretty good about my cleats but I’m not committed to tunnelling town.

But I think if you read the first, say, one and a half pages of today, there’s a ‘let’s carefully examine the wilgy train’ vibe and if there are no wolves in there trying to control the conversation in that direction I’ll be surprised. That’s my gut feel.
It feels to me like there’s a whole lot of steering going on.

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I actually feel like the steering wheel’s been disconnected and we’re all just backseat driving.
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 2]

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Kate wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:22 pm
Golden wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:18 pm Ok Kate who do you want to give an enema
I hope everyone gets this reference otherwise I just look like a weirdo.
I get it.

You like enemas. Who doesn’t? :biggrin:
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 2]

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Golden wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:15 pm Gone back to read it again:

Kate - holy bad countertrain, wtf guys.
Sabi - Sean, golden, SVS or Lucy contains a wolf. Also, ties are bad.
Scotty = not committing, sure looks like a seanzie save to me. Rejects "SVS is obvtown" arguments.

Dennis - "with marmot dead, I'm not certain how to read the Wilgy wagon"
Seanzie - "not gonna dome sabi, that's derailing the thread, also SVS is obvitown"
SVS - Just explains her thinking

Instinct says Kate might just be caught up in that first bundle, it's not like examination of that group is bad. But it's quite central to why scotty and sabi are forefront of my mind today.

Conversely, the bottom group (people on the wilgy train) don't try to control the narrative at all.
Dude I’ve pulled over at a truck stop yesterday. I ain’t even close to driving this.

Part of this game is making discussion and forming cohesive viewpoints. Me offering an initial reasoning why Marmot might have been killed and how the Wilgy wagon took off after I left at the end of D1 is something I think should be looked at further.
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 2]

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Golden wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:16 pm
Scotty wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:31 pm
Seanzie wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:27 pm I think svs is obvtown for going for the tie, even if a tie would have been very bad for town.
I do agree that going for tie is the absolute worst thing you could do in a D1.

And that’s pretty brazen to acknowledge unless SVS is just getting her dirty laundry out in the open before we find it.

I don’t think this makes her obv town for doing it
Scotty, why do you think going for a tie rather than miseliming on day one is 'the absolute worst thing' you could do?
Because a D1 with no elimination stalls the game.

I’m a person that thrives on information. Mafia can talk their way out of a paper bag. We might as well just start the game with a N1 if we just sit on our hands D1.

See my viewpoint? You may not agree with it and that’s fine. I feel like half the thread in one way or another has expressed the desire to have gone to a tie on D1, so it is what it is.
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Golden wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:26 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:41 am
Sabiplz wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:04 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:47 pm *looks at poll* why are there so many people in this game?

Ugh... I'm probably just going to pick a random person and tunnel them, then repeat after their flip all game. I'll let you all know once I decide who I'm going to start with.
This feels off
Dennis wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:18 am
Sabiplz wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:04 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:47 pm *looks at poll* why are there so many people in this game?

Ugh... I'm probably just going to pick a random person and tunnel them, then repeat after their flip all game. I'll let you all know once I decide who I'm going to start with.
This feels off
Hmmm... putting suspicion on someone else? :ponder: Very slick...

But you also make a fair point.
Scotty wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:28 am
Sabiplz wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:04 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:47 pm *looks at poll* why are there so many people in this game?

Ugh... I'm probably just going to pick a random person and tunnel them, then repeat after their flip all game. I'll let you all know once I decide who I'm going to start with.
This feels off
I agree with this. Upon reading it I didn’t know what was bothering me, but I think it’s the specifics of laying out his strategy, like boldly announcing to the entire office that he’s going to use the restroom, ‘but not just to pee!’
Chances this triple contains a wolf? Like 99%

Chances it contains two wolves? Like 11.2%

Chances it's Scotty? Like 69% nice!
This post here?

I’ve no idea how Seanzie did it, because it makes no sense to me. But I think it’s really good. And Scotty and sabi didn’t let up on Seanzie, haven’t let up on Seanzie.

This entire game makes a tonne of sense to me through the lens of ‘shit shit how is Sean so on to us already’.
Mm while we’re here, I was just thinking- if sabi is my partner I never nakedly just +1 agree with my partner like that.

anyway, I’m still feeling sabi’s town from the burnout comments they were making yesterday. The lack of follow through with some of their pushes.

Could it be wolf? Maybe. But I was finely combed by sabi in the last game we played together where they hoodwink’d me, and I see a slightly different sabi this game. If that makes any sense
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 2]

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Golden wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:34 pm If at least one of scotty and sabi isn’t a wolf I’ll bite my hat twice.
You wouldn’t dare
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 2]

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Golden wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:14 pm I’m comfortable voting sabi

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

I think the marmot kill makes sense from sabi, and her sudden ‘hmm, I’m starting to worry about the Seanzie wagon’ 30 minutes from eod when no save seemed apparently incoming.

The thing I like least about scotty is there’s a lack of second guessing himself and a lack of lightness. I think Scotty’s town vs wolf meta isn’t so unlike mine in that latter regard, and I think he struggles to be quite *as* funny and light when he’s bad.

I even tried quite a bit of having fun with him and he wasn’t really gelling with it. Could just be that he’s wary of me though, it’s plausible.
I’m starting to eyeroll when I see you talk about me and it’s giving my eyes burnout

I literally have second guessed my entire push today on you.

That’s been my entire D2 up until this point.

“I even tried quite a bit of having fun with him”

Fun isn’t always a two way street it seems
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 2]

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Dennis wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:23 pm
Golden wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:14 pm I’m comfortable voting sabi

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

I think the marmot kill makes sense from sabi, and her sudden ‘hmm, I’m starting to worry about the Seanzie wagon’ 30 minutes from eod when no save seemed apparently incoming.

The thing I like least about scotty is there’s a lack of second guessing himself and a lack of lightness. I think Scotty’s town vs wolf meta isn’t so unlike mine in that latter regard, and I think he struggles to be quite *as* funny and light when he’s bad.

I even tried quite a bit of having fun with him and he wasn’t really gelling with it. Could just be that he’s wary of me though, it’s plausible.
This makes me think Golden is town.
I also think Golden is town today and it’s pissing me off to no end that he’s still shading me
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Dennis wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:28 pm I wanna get a vote out quick this day so I'm gonna [VOTE: Lucy] aubergine

I feel like all she's done so far is read into the me and my family, and then make some sort of 'can't blame me for this' when doing something. Like her coldread on me, she said she 'just knows'. I don't like that one bit. Her votes in D1 have also been 'fine with wagoning' and 'seeing how this feels' so I don't like it. The coldread town (how do I word that) on me makes me think she might be WKing me.
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lucy wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:18 pm probably one in sabi/seanzie
When did you start suspecting lucy?
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Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:00 pm
lucy wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:18 pm probably one in sabi/seanzie
When did you start suspecting lucy?
er, sabi
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Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:40 pm
Kate wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:22 pm
Golden wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:18 pm Ok Kate who do you want to give an enema
I hope everyone gets this reference otherwise I just look like a weirdo.
I get it.

You like enemas. Who doesn’t? :biggrin:
Oh good lord. :blush:
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 2]

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lucy wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:22 pm I'll try to make a readslist and poe, which is slightly difficult due to gamestate

one thing I do have issue with is the fact all the votes are being placed on active players, while I believe that there are active mafia players, I don't believe it's any greater than one or two

which means that we'll vote out active participants instead of inactive participants which will greatly harm us in late game, due to voting out all the players that have actually done something. instead of inactive whom have done nothing. to that end I scum read bea, so I'll actually place my vote there

[VOTE: bea] aubergine
Wait so you go from “probably one in sabi/seanzie” to this?

While I agree that inactives will hurt us in the long run, in the short run…there is obviously at least one active wolf and voting for an inactive is literally a shot in the dark. This is not the time, and it is a lazy way of thinking
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Dennis wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:47 pm
lucy wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:25 pm I don't think I'll persuade you, given you're voting me, I will ask whether you think I'm simply wrong
No, I don't think you're wrong in that we're worse off later with inactives. But if we take a shot in the dark we have an arguably worse chance of hitting a wolf than someone we have a reason to vote. Also, I'm still holding out hope that they'll join back by then. Though, it is worth considering that chances are one active is a wolf.
Yes! Well said, and before me lol
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Dennis, I should just retire and you can succeed me.

I’ll will you my boombox and chess set
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Sabiplz wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:00 pm I'm fine with dying, I really am busy with work and real life stuff atm so I can't and don't have the energy to fight for my life.

I request yall to kill Golden and Seanzie next when I do die. Don't kill scotty over some diachomy that doesn't exist.

Anyway have fun the rest of the phase. Have to get back to work.
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Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:05 pm Dennis, I should just retire and you can succeed me.

I’ll will you my boombox and chess set
Look at me go mom!!
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Dennis wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:08 pm
Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:05 pm Dennis, I should just retire and you can succeed me.

I’ll will you my boombox and chess set
Look at me go mom!!
My big boy 🥰🥰🥰
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Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:07 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:00 pm I'm fine with dying, I really am busy with work and real life stuff atm so I can't and don't have the energy to fight for my life.

I request yall to kill Golden and Seanzie next when I do die. Don't kill scotty over some diachomy that doesn't exist.

Anyway have fun the rest of the phase. Have to get back to work.
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Why would we kill scotty after you die based on a dichotomy if you were anything but Mafia??

I read your iso and there is little to even comment on.

I trust the people voting here. Therefore, [VOTE: Sabi] aubergine
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Kate wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:13 pm
Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:07 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:00 pm I'm fine with dying, I really am busy with work and real life stuff atm so I can't and don't have the energy to fight for my life.

I request yall to kill Golden and Seanzie next when I do die. Don't kill scotty over some diachomy that doesn't exist.

Anyway have fun the rest of the phase. Have to get back to work.
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Why would we kill scotty after you die based on a dichotomy if you were anything but Mafia??

I read your iso and there is little to even comment on.

I trust the people voting here. Therefore, [VOTE: Sabi] aubergine
Except seanzie. Still unsure in him.
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Dennis wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:08 pm
Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:05 pm Dennis, I should just retire and you can succeed me.

I’ll will you my boombox and chess set


Look at me go mom!!
You also get my debt and my dog needs someone to walk her and my wife, while a strong independent woman, would probably miss me.

And that chess set is made from real fake porcelain so maybe I might want to hold on to that. And I listen to my boombox semi regularly. And I’m a pretty selfish individual when it comes to my land, and I’ll probably never retire because I’m addicted to this stupid game.

Sorry, I must rescind my offer :(


But you can have my debt. That you can have
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Kate wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:13 pm
Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:07 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:00 pm I'm fine with dying, I really am busy with work and real life stuff atm so I can't and don't have the energy to fight for my life.

I request yall to kill Golden and Seanzie next when I do die. Don't kill scotty over some diachomy that doesn't exist.

Anyway have fun the rest of the phase. Have to get back to work.
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Why would we kill scotty after you die based on a dichotomy if you were anything but Mafia??

I read your iso and there is little to even comment on.

I trust the people voting here. Therefore, [VOTE: Sabi] aubergine
are you talking to me, or sabi?
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[VOTE: Sean] aubergine
we can't stop here...this is bat country!
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Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:15 pm
Kate wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:13 pm
Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:07 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:00 pm I'm fine with dying, I really am busy with work and real life stuff atm so I can't and don't have the energy to fight for my life.

I request yall to kill Golden and Seanzie next when I do die. Don't kill scotty over some diachomy that doesn't exist.

Anyway have fun the rest of the phase. Have to get back to work.
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Why would we kill scotty after you die based on a dichotomy if you were anything but Mafia??

I read your iso and there is little to even comment on.

I trust the people voting here. Therefore, [VOTE: Sabi] aubergine
are you talking to me, or sabi?
Sabi. It's just that it didn't dawn on me until the second time I read it when you quoted it.
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 2]

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falcon45ca wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:16 pm [VOTE: Sean] aubergine
This is abrupt. Why?
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I will acknowledge that I am not going to defend sabi based on their play and willingness to lay down and die. If tGym 11/30
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oh god
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ok iPhone changed their stupid interface and now the ‘paste’ button is in the spot the ‘select’ button used to be and it’s been really screwing with my jam.

I apologize for cluttering the thread yall. This is embarrassing
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Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:25 pm I will acknowledge that I am not going to defend sabi based on their play and willingness to lay down and die. If they said they had more of a legitimate case on someone I’d look at that, but I’m not going out of my way to say sabi isn’t wolf. I just think there are stronger options.

Golden has this tunnel on both me and sabi and he’s yearning for blood.
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falcon45ca wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:16 pm [VOTE: Sean] aubergine
wtf is this now
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Hey scotty did you go to the gym on 11/30? Just curious.
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Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:25 pm I will acknowledge that I am not going to defend sabi based on their play and willingness to lay down and die. If tGym 11/30
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Alright I'm starting from the beginning. I will be caught up at some point tonight hopefully.

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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 2]

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I slept most of the day. I did not intend to.
I still have Sabi as a suspicion, for reasons mentioned on d1, but I have considered that maybe they really mistrusted Seanzie. Then they started to backpedal some, and I’m back to sq1.

Why did Falcon vote Seanzie? Maybe they gave a reason why in an earlier post, but I can’t remember now so I’ll ISO them later or tomorrow.

I don’t understand Lucy’s vote for Bea either, it seems a bad idea to go after low posters, just for being a low poster, this early. (It doesn’t help that I still feel so bad for suspecting Bea in the anni game 1)

I can’t remember what else I read earlier because I’m getting sleepy again but I know there’s more. I’ll post again after I sleep on it.
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Kate wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:44 pm Hey scotty did you go to the gym on 11/30? Just curious.
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Matahari wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:07 pm I slept most of the day. I did not intend to.
I still have Sabi as a suspicion, for reasons mentioned on d1, but I have considered that maybe they really mistrusted Seanzie. Then they started to backpedal some, and I’m back to sq1.

Why did Falcon vote Seanzie? Maybe they gave a reason why in an earlier post, but I can’t remember now so I’ll ISO them later or tomorrow.

I don’t understand Lucy’s vote for Bea either, it seems a bad idea to go after low posters, just for being a low poster, this early. (It doesn’t help that I still feel so bad for suspecting Bea in the anni game 1)

I can’t remember what else I read earlier because I’m getting sleepy again but I know there’s more. I’ll post again after I sleep on it.
Hey Mata!

If you could make your top 2 biggest suspicions in your catch-up, who would they be?

When you say you’re back to sq1 with sabi, does that mean you don’t suspect them anymore? I can’t get a good read with this post what you actually think of the players you’re mentioning- it just seems like a catalogue of events
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So let me get this straight. The new, current meta is that:

1. It's better to lynch a civ on day one then to have no death; and
2. It's town behavior to lynch low posting players rather than wait on that and lynch a player based on the thread and flip clues.

These two "metas" don't seem to reconcile. :shrug: :confused:
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So let me get this straight. The new, current meta is that:

1. It's better to lynch a civ on day one then to have no death; and
2. It's town behavior to lynch low posting players rather than wait on that and lynch a player based on the thread and flip clues.

These two "metas" don't seem to reconcile. :shrug: :confused:
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Sorry don't know how I double posted.
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Matahari wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:07 pm I slept most of the day. I did not intend to.
I still have Sabi as a suspicion, for reasons mentioned on d1, but I have considered that maybe they really mistrusted Seanzie. Then they started to backpedal some, and I’m back to sq1.

Why did Falcon vote Seanzie? Maybe they gave a reason why in an earlier post, but I can’t remember now so I’ll ISO them later or tomorrow.

I don’t understand Lucy’s vote for Bea either, it seems a bad idea to go after low posters, just for being a low poster, this early. (It doesn’t help that I still feel so bad for suspecting Bea in the anni game 1)

I can’t remember what else I read earlier because I’m getting sleepy again but I know there’s more. I’ll post again after I sleep on it.
What are your thoughts on me?
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Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:25 pm I will acknowledge that I am not going to defend sabi based on their play and willingness to lay down and die. If tGym 11/30
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Tri rope 77x12, 66x12, x10
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Weird side pull-up shrugs idk lol x12
Shoulder press iso 22.5x12 (3)

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Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:37 pm
Golden wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:11 pm I cannot express how much that:

a) I’m enjoying this game; and
b) so many of your posts are filling me with warm vibes.
I’m going to operate under the assumption that you’re speaking directly to me.

So you’re welcome :hugs:
Your fluffy wool certainly helps
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 2]

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Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:46 pm
Golden wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:16 pm
Scotty wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:31 pm
Seanzie wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:27 pm I think svs is obvtown for going for the tie, even if a tie would have been very bad for town.
I do agree that going for tie is the absolute worst thing you could do in a D1.

And that’s pretty brazen to acknowledge unless SVS is just getting her dirty laundry out in the open before we find it.

I don’t think this makes her obv town for doing it
Scotty, why do you think going for a tie rather than miseliming on day one is 'the absolute worst thing' you could do?
Because a D1 with no elimination stalls the game.

I’m a person that thrives on information. Mafia can talk their way out of a paper bag. We might as well just start the game with a N1 if we just sit on our hands D1.

See my viewpoint? You may not agree with it and that’s fine. I feel like half the thread in one way or another has expressed the desire to have gone to a tie on D1, so it is what it is.
I mean, I quibble with the idea that pages of posts and lots of vote data isn’t information unless you see the flip of the guy who took 6 votes suddenly at eod.

I understand the idea that ‘information is better than no information’, but I’d say the quality of info coming from wilgys flip is low compared to most other info going on. That said, I can appreciate someone who feels like they just need it to get their feet in the game.

Having said that, I don’t think it makes it clearly town-favouring. I think it’s just a preference.
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Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 2]

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Scotty wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:55 pm
Dennis wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:23 pm
Golden wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:14 pm I’m comfortable voting sabi

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

I think the marmot kill makes sense from sabi, and her sudden ‘hmm, I’m starting to worry about the Seanzie wagon’ 30 minutes from eod when no save seemed apparently incoming.

The thing I like least about scotty is there’s a lack of second guessing himself and a lack of lightness. I think Scotty’s town vs wolf meta isn’t so unlike mine in that latter regard, and I think he struggles to be quite *as* funny and light when he’s bad.

I even tried quite a bit of having fun with him and he wasn’t really gelling with it. Could just be that he’s wary of me though, it’s plausible.
This makes me think Golden is town.
I also think Golden is town today and it’s pissing me off to no end that he’s still shading me
You don’t get a town read just for townreading me.
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But I do think, on balance, sabi is a better vote than you are.
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Golden wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 12:52 am But I do think, on balance, sabi is a better vote than you are.
Why would you rather elim Sabi than Scotty?
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Scotty, it’s possible I over-read into your marmot analysis.

If I did I’m sure I’ll come around on you in time. I’m not trying to actively poke you atm, just working things through.
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By the way I am still waiting on a reason that @falcon45ca voted Seanzie and I don't like that they just dropped a vote and ran. Even if it's just something like 'same as day 1' (which should probably be reconsidered now but whatever) I don't see a good civ reason for doing that.
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Dennis wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 12:54 am
Golden wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 12:52 am But I do think, on balance, sabi is a better vote than you are.
Why would you rather elim Sabi than Scotty?
I’ll try to find time to explain better tomorrow
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Forgot about posting d1, but I'm catching up now. I'm a slow goer, and do things during downtime at work, so only through post #550 rn before heading out to get some security rounds done.
Seanzie wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:47 pm *looks at poll* why are there so many people in this game?

Ugh... I'm probably just going to pick a random person and tunnel them, then repeat after their flip all game. I'll let you all know once I decide who I'm going to start with.
Rather performative opening just to say you'd be RVS'ing all game.
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Sabiplz wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:04 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:47 pm *looks at poll* why are there so many people in this game?

Ugh... I'm probably just going to pick a random person and tunnel them, then repeat after their flip all game. I'll let you all know once I decide who I'm going to start with.
This feels off
Hmmm... putting suspicion on someone else? :ponder: Very slick...

But you also make a fair point.
Pointing the finger of suspicion is rather the point of the game, not sure why you're acting perplexed by someone doing so.(further reading does indicate you're a newbie, so this isn't as weird as originally thought)
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DrWilgy wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:49 am Yo did anyone pick quaxly? I'm almost done with the new Pokedex but need a starter.

Ty for your time.
wigly what's your read accuracy like?
lucy wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:56 am
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lucy wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:50 am
DrWilgy wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:49 am Yo did anyone pick quaxly? I'm almost done with the new Pokedex but need a starter.

Ty for your time.
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Idk, I think I'm at least 65% accurate. Pegged 3/4 of the scum in last game only reading like 1/4th of the posts and shitposting half the time.

Fr though, I really want to finish the new Pokemon games.
thoughts on pegging?
lucy wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:02 am that's wigly's role, or is it yours? @Scotty
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Golden wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:17 am I refuse to vote for anyone under the age of 30 today unless Seanzie is under the age of 30 because I might sheep scotty.
seanzie is 33
lucy wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:22 am Jesus Christ golden is 39, and mata is 69 due to previous conversations
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lucy wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:22 am Jesus Christ golden is 39, and mata is 69 due to previous conversations
I'm 61, if you'd like to put that in your spreadsheet.
no spreadsheets, the information does help me form reads, different mental models by age
lucy being part of the peanut gallery early.
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Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss
A little grandiose for an "I'm town!" post, but it's Paradise Lost so I'll accept it.
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Soneji wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:04 am Checking in, shaking off the rust.
Soneji wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:38 am
DrWilgy wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:08 am
Soneji wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:04 am Checking in, shaking off the rust.
Oi, long time no see. How've you been?
Been good, enjoying mafia retirement.
Is 11 words in 2 posts an effective method for shaking off the rust?
For day 0 which I usually ignore, kind of. The Great Wall of Soneji is where the real shaking off comes in.
lucy wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:35 pm dennis, how well do you know your mom and brother
Kneejerk reaction is that this is the wolfiest post in the game so far, especially considering lucy's previous posts all being peanut gallery type discussion. It just sounds ludicrous to be asking how well someone knows their own family for the purposes of this kind of game.
lucy wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:37 pm kate, why did you make them signup?
This question has zero relevance to anyone's alignment in this game.
Sabiplz wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:30 pm Marmot catch up is uninspiring
Sabiplz wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:32 pm
Marmot wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:31 pm Never mind, Sabi is the cutest wolf, not DrWilgy.
:really:

Am I voting you? No

Seanzie is the wolfiest person so far minus golden
Bad vibe from sabi for immediately jumping on Marmot after shading them continuously for their prior absence during first half of day 1, then trying to shield themselves from suspicion with a weak "my vote isn't on you" response, as if wolves don't throw shade on people they aren't currently voting.
Matahari wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:45 am i want to post my thoughts so far, while I have a minute. They are definitely not deep thoughts, but how deep can they be on day 1?
New players get a pass, until later in the game. Absent players, as well.
if I don't mention you, its because I have you as town for now.

Falcon45ca- I didn't find it suspicious that you chose someone quickly because with movable votes, it seems like a lot of players throw votes around in a slap-happy fashion. then you were questioned about it, and you promptly posted quotes for why you made your vote. This looked legit to me at the time. Later it occurred to me that maybe you did all that too quickly, Pre-planned? But someone, Sabiplz, I think, said this was normal for your town game.

Soneji posted, I think, but I'll need to go back and look to make sure. ???

Lucy- so far, is reminding me of Dr. Wilgy. Too random to read, and weird posting just annoys me because I don't know what to do with it. I'd like to hear from players who are familiar with them.

Seanzie made a very risky statement for a town player to make. Or just an 'I can't be bothered' statement. Since it was preceded by an 'Ugh', I'm going with the former.

Sabiplz drew attention to his post, then backed away from it, then said she rarely voted early or often, then 17 minutes later she voted for Seanzie. None of this feels right.

Golden got a vote from Falcon, and although Falcon's reasons would not be enough to convince me to vote someone, I thought they were ok for a day 1. However after post 486 ( I think, I'll go back and check later and do an ebwop if necessary), I have Golden as town.

Marmot, no clue. I'd like to hear what other players think of him. ???

Everyone else, I have as probably town. I have no absolutes this early, but I'm watching the players above who pinged me. I'd like to hear what other players think of my not so deep thoughts, please.
This looks like forced content mixed with a whole lot of fence sitting, given that you gave nothing reads on myself(absent player) and Marmot, and other reads were basically just game recaps with little actual thoughts of your own. The closest to real thoughts here are with sabi who you seem to suspect but don't actually outright point the finger of suspicion at, and with Falcon who you start to sus then back off because you thought you remember it being said it fits their meta(why should you trust sabi's meta on Falcon here, when you seem to sus sabi as well?). The Seanzie "read" is the most amusing to me, since you present their statement as either a risky town statement, or an IDGAF statement, but you never contemplate is as a wolfy statement.


Current suspects :

Seanzie
Matahari
lucy


sabi to a lesser extent, but I've liked their posting outside of their interactions with Marmot
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