Llama, LC said "good", not "bad", tehehe. I think he may have been talking to everyone EXCEPT you.
LC, I've refuted the case against me several times. Since the same old case is popping up again, I'll indulge you guys one more time.
thellama73 wrote:Long Con wrote:An argument toward why TH could be good would be fine to hear. Or a reiteration if it already got put forth.
I've put it forth multiple times, but I'm game to go again. It's mostly an accumulation of circumstantial evidence that I think points to him being the other utility.
1. TH was among the last voters for BWT, a utility. I think it is reasonable to assume that BWT's BTSC partner would vote for him late in order to gain civ cred. I do not think he would vote for his partner early (too dangerous), or vote for someone else (too obvious a save attempt).
As I've said before, I've been a late voter in all 5 lynches. It has nothing to do with my role and everything to do with wanting the $200 bonus.
But just because I voted late for BWT doesn't mean I was not involved in the discussion about him. As I've said before, I was THE FIRST PERSON to agree with Epi's case on BWT and I never let my foot off the gas pedal there. I thought it was a good case and continued to push it to the forefront of discussion. You keep missing this fact.
thellama73 wrote:2. He was eager to bid on BWT's utility. I can't see a good reason for a civ to do that (even though we know Boogs did bid for it, and he was civ.)
Yeah, Boogs bid on it and was civ. I bid on it and was civ. YOU bid on a baddie property Llama. You did. You WON it. Does that make you a baddie?
I have tried to win baddie properties to make sure they stay out of the hands of the baddies. Why did YOU bid on the railroad?
thellama73 wrote:3. He seemed, to me, overly eager to jump on other people's cases as soon as I brought his name up, which spells guilty to me.
I did not jump on anyone's cases after you brought my name up. I continued to discuss my own suspects, because I'm trying to find baddies. The fact that you suspect me doesn't get in the way of my OWN baddie hunting. I'm not going to stop doing my civvie duty of trying to find baddies just because you think I'm bad.
thellama73 wrote:4. He and Boogs had a fight over who actually won the utility in the bidding war, each denying that it was them. Boogs flipped civ, so it's unlikely he was lying, which makes TH more likely to have lied.
Again, I'm not lying about this, and if I WAS bad, there would be NO REASON for me to lie. I've been upfront about everything that I've done. I have won other auctions including baddie properties. I did not win Electric Company. I stated as much in the thread so that we as a group could try to determine who DID win it and why. LC showed that I COULDN'T have won it because I didn't increase the bid enough. Again, if I was a baddie and won that auction, I would have said NOTHING, because there was no benefit to getting caught up in this mystery. I don't think people are looking at this situation from that angle. My actions in this matter literally don't make any goddamn sense if I'm a baddie.
I've been a major player in the lynching of all three baddies. I didn't bring up the original cases but I pushed them all along. Black Rock was the first to point out that Made's partner comment on Day 1 was weird, I was the first person to call it an actual slip. Epi was the person who brought up the case on BWT, but I was right there after him to try and keep that case buoyant while other players were discussing separate cases and were ignoring Epi's. LC was the first to point out that Hedgeowl's survival was suspicious, I was the next person to come in and condemn her. I've helped take out three baddies and I've tried to defend people I believe to be civ. If taking out baddies and defending civvies makes me bad, I don't know what to say.