Falcon is an easy read as time goes on and are an easy misyeet for wolves early. If Falcon is a wolf, taking them out will not severely hinder the wolves (no offence to Falcon, but he kinda hates wolfing, and while he isn't a negative to the wolf-team, he isn't exactly the choice to go deep), and Falcon's best strength as a wolf is he is good at not leaving spew/leaving misleading spew, so flipping him early gives very little benefit even if he is wolf, but leaving him alive will never cause a loss because he is wolf (if we wouldn't have lost anyways), and we will know if he is town or not because elo.
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Who do you think is a better chop?Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 4:04 pmFalcon is an easy read as time goes on and are an easy misyeet for wolves early. If Falcon is a wolf, taking them out will not severely hinder the wolves (no offence to Falcon, but he kinda hates wolfing, and while he isn't a negative to the wolf-team, he isn't exactly the choice to go deep), and Falcon's best strength as a wolf is he is good at not leaving spew/leaving misleading spew, so flipping him early gives very little benefit even if he is wolf, but leaving him alive will never cause a loss because he is wolf (if we wouldn't have lost anyways), and we will know if he is town or not because elo.
Falcon also was a day 1 chop in duck tales, how is this different from that?
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I am open to suggestions.Lumi wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 4:07 pmWho do you think is a better chop?Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 4:04 pmFalcon is an easy read as time goes on and are an easy misyeet for wolves early. If Falcon is a wolf, taking them out will not severely hinder the wolves (no offence to Falcon, but he kinda hates wolfing, and while he isn't a negative to the wolf-team, he isn't exactly the choice to go deep), and Falcon's best strength as a wolf is he is good at not leaving spew/leaving misleading spew, so flipping him early gives very little benefit even if he is wolf, but leaving him alive will never cause a loss because he is wolf (if we wouldn't have lost anyways), and we will know if he is town or not because elo.
Falcon also was a day 1 chop in duck tales, how is this different from that?
Because I knew Falcon was wolf by then in that game.
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Back to square 1
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Schiavetto came at Eod like they forgot about the game and they had an obligation to reach the minimum of posts.
This is wolfy behaviour and i think has priority toDay
This is wolfy behaviour and i think has priority toDay
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wtf Lumi you were supposed to be my NPC mason, treason!.
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Told you Lumi was town
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This is accurate & in no way offensive in the least.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 4:04 pmFalcon is an easy read as time goes on and are an easy misyeet for wolves early. If Falcon is a wolf, taking them out will not severely hinder the wolves (no offence to Falcon, but he kinda hates wolfing, and while he isn't a negative to the wolf-team, he isn't exactly the choice to go deep), and Falcon's best strength as a wolf is he is good at not leaving spew/leaving misleading spew, so flipping him early gives very little benefit even if he is wolf, but leaving him alive will never cause a loss because he is wolf (if we wouldn't have lost anyways), and we will know if he is town or not because elo.
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Okay, hello. It is me, the “is he an NPC? Is he scummy? We know literally nothing about him but also care way entirely too little to even try and put thought into figuring it out or paying attention to him” guy
Should probably own up at this stage to the fact that I’m actually a player. A really sucky one up to now, but one nonetheless. However, I’ve recently come into some money (aka time, as time is money y’know), so I’m gonna try my best to actually be consistent and here now. Better late than never, at least
Should probably own up at this stage to the fact that I’m actually a player. A really sucky one up to now, but one nonetheless. However, I’ve recently come into some money (aka time, as time is money y’know), so I’m gonna try my best to actually be consistent and here now. Better late than never, at least
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I thought Schia’s EoD posts were really funny but I don’t see how that’s not outing for them
I thought Schia’s EoD posts were really funny but I don’t see how that’s not outing for them
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@Michelle I thought it was just in general it looked fake to me based on my high level readsMichelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:11 am Reading Zeus' Iso I enjoy the gimmick very much
@DeeZees you voted alot Santygrass, I found a post explaining his reads looked manufactured, do you remember any post?
After 2 days you said 'i was wrong on Santy' if i understand correctly it was for wagonomics
What do you think now?
Last post I've read #4708 - I think is worthy to check again Golden's wagon
Unrelated: What's your read for me? I'm just curious.
but yes- flipped on santy. he's basically solving and mixing it up. dece
I think you seem fine too !
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RE: the discussion earlier about the mafia scout, this may just be a dumb thought in my ignorance (as I’m basically starting super late), but pretty much any time I’ve ever been part of a scumteam that had a cop, they pretty much always NK a top player and check a top player. There’s a bunch of people ITT who I know outside these walls to be really good players that I’m honestly surprised are still alive. So my general assumption is that they’re scouting top players. The fact that so many who I would expect to have died by now aren’t dead in favor of more questionable NK choices has a good chance of indicating that a good chunk of the people who are currently leading the town are NPCs, and the mafia team knows it and are steering clear (or are mafia themselves, but I’m not gonna delve down that tinfoil when I have literally no info on anything this game to even think I’m qualified to suggest it as an option)
Which is really sad and sucky if true because if the actual town players aren’t stepping up as much (hello, I’m the problem, it’s me), then we are going to be in a rough situation after the remaining NPCs get purged EoD7 if most of the top thread leaders go with them
Which is really sad and sucky if true because if the actual town players aren’t stepping up as much (hello, I’m the problem, it’s me), then we are going to be in a rough situation after the remaining NPCs get purged EoD7 if most of the top thread leaders go with them
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How likely is it for everybody on Lily’s wagon to be a player?pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:51 pm pyxxy's D5 color vote count post V5
V2 - updated for missing the d3 min post deaths (sorry about that)
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Aye, you'll hmmm, but you won't question it would you?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:45 pmI'm seeing things in your ISO that make me go HmmmmmmDrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:00 pmWhy did you start with me specifically?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:49 pmI call it the Pinata Tactica PrincipiaDrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:35 pmYou aren't even scouting for data with this. What is your game plan Falc?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:13 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine
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False. I can and I haveDrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:52 pmAye, you'll hmmm, but you won't question it would you?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:45 pmI'm seeing things in your ISO that make me go HmmmmmmDrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:00 pmWhy did you start with me specifically?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:49 pmI call it the Pinata Tactica PrincipiaDrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:35 pmYou aren't even scouting for data with this. What is your game plan Falc?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:13 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine
He's not a Doctor, he's not even an undergrad
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One thing I'm kind of surprised that hasn't been mentioned yet in terms of mafia scout play is that idk if it is actually a good idea to kill their early "player" hits. This is especially true if the scout is someone they don't expect to live long.
In late game, if they are in elo with some NPCs still alive, having a confirmed town alive allows them to be outed post-flip, as one example of the benefit.
In late game, if they are in elo with some NPCs still alive, having a confirmed town alive allows them to be outed post-flip, as one example of the benefit.
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I said pretty much the same thing two games ago when we were both town. Are you afraid I am a wolf WKing you here, recycling a take I made as a townie?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:14 pmThis is accurate & in no way offensive in the least.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 4:04 pmFalcon is an easy read as time goes on and are an easy misyeet for wolves early. If Falcon is a wolf, taking them out will not severely hinder the wolves (no offence to Falcon, but he kinda hates wolfing, and while he isn't a negative to the wolf-team, he isn't exactly the choice to go deep), and Falcon's best strength as a wolf is he is good at not leaving spew/leaving misleading spew, so flipping him early gives very little benefit even if he is wolf, but leaving him alive will never cause a loss because he is wolf (if we wouldn't have lost anyways), and we will know if he is town or not because elo.
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Not really, cuz' this isn't new info to anybody who's somewhat familiar with my playstyle. It's pretty NAI from my viewpointSeanzie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:07 pmI said pretty much the same thing two games ago when we were both town. Are you afraid I am a wolf WKing you here, recycling a take I made as a townie?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:14 pmThis is accurate & in no way offensive in the least.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 4:04 pmFalcon is an easy read as time goes on and are an easy misyeet for wolves early. If Falcon is a wolf, taking them out will not severely hinder the wolves (no offence to Falcon, but he kinda hates wolfing, and while he isn't a negative to the wolf-team, he isn't exactly the choice to go deep), and Falcon's best strength as a wolf is he is good at not leaving spew/leaving misleading spew, so flipping him early gives very little benefit even if he is wolf, but leaving him alive will never cause a loss because he is wolf (if we wouldn't have lost anyways), and we will know if he is town or not because elo.
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Wilgy here showing an unusual amount of concern for the sus on his slot.
It is not uncommon for Wilgy to get heat, as he is a tricky read, and usually he cares very little.
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Does that track in a scenario where there’s 1.5x-2x the number of NPCs in the game than players? I don’t have the exact D1 numbers in front of me, but to take a shot that has less >50% odds guarantees that you statistically shoot blanks more often than not. I’d argue it’s the opposite, you immediately cut down players you scout early on, but as the numbers dwindle (and especially now post-purge), you start taking out threats irregardless of scout results because the chances of hitting a player over an NPC is greater the more NPCs flake and fadeSeanzie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:06 pm One thing I'm kind of surprised that hasn't been mentioned yet in terms of mafia scout play is that idk if it is actually a good idea to kill their early "player" hits. This is especially true if the scout is someone they don't expect to live long.
In late game, if they are in elo with some NPCs still alive, having a confirmed town alive allows them to be outed post-flip, as one example of the benefit.
Speaking of, on that note I think the Ender NK may be a good example of that. Even with my little game-knowledge yesterday it’s not the first NK I would’ve expected to happen. So the fact that it did has some implications for the gamestate we live in I think
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I personally would be okay leaving one or two confirmed town alive unless they were specifically threats, and instead shooting ???. Info is stronk.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:17 pmDoes that track in a scenario where there’s 1.5x-2x the number of NPCs in the game than players? I don’t have the exact D1 numbers in front of me, but to take a shot that has less >50% odds guarantees that you statistically shoot blanks more often than not. I’d argue it’s the opposite, you immediately cut down players you scout early on, but as the numbers dwindle (and especially now post-purge), you start taking out threats irregardless of scout results because the chances of hitting a player over an NPC is greater the more NPCs flake and fadeSeanzie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:06 pm One thing I'm kind of surprised that hasn't been mentioned yet in terms of mafia scout play is that idk if it is actually a good idea to kill their early "player" hits. This is especially true if the scout is someone they don't expect to live long.
In late game, if they are in elo with some NPCs still alive, having a confirmed town alive allows them to be outed post-flip, as one example of the benefit.
Speaking of, on that note I think the Ender NK may be a good example of that. Even with my little game-knowledge yesterday it’s not the first NK I would’ve expected to happen. So the fact that it did has some implications for the gamestate we live in I think
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You're people pleasin', Falcon.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:11 pmNot really, cuz' this isn't new info to anybody who's somewhat familiar with my playstyle. It's pretty NAI from my viewpointSeanzie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:07 pmI said pretty much the same thing two games ago when we were both town. Are you afraid I am a wolf WKing you here, recycling a take I made as a townie?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:14 pmThis is accurate & in no way offensive in the least.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 4:04 pmFalcon is an easy read as time goes on and are an easy misyeet for wolves early. If Falcon is a wolf, taking them out will not severely hinder the wolves (no offence to Falcon, but he kinda hates wolfing, and while he isn't a negative to the wolf-team, he isn't exactly the choice to go deep), and Falcon's best strength as a wolf is he is good at not leaving spew/leaving misleading spew, so flipping him early gives very little benefit even if he is wolf, but leaving him alive will never cause a loss because he is wolf (if we wouldn't have lost anyways), and we will know if he is town or not because elo.
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Which I would agree with now, in this general game timeframe. Not so much in the early game where the margin for error is extremely high, but it’s all moot anyways as we don’t know and won’t know until post-gameSeanzie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:19 pmI personally would be okay leaving one or two confirmed town alive unless they were specifically threats, and instead shooting ???. Info is stronk.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:17 pmDoes that track in a scenario where there’s 1.5x-2x the number of NPCs in the game than players? I don’t have the exact D1 numbers in front of me, but to take a shot that has less >50% odds guarantees that you statistically shoot blanks more often than not. I’d argue it’s the opposite, you immediately cut down players you scout early on, but as the numbers dwindle (and especially now post-purge), you start taking out threats irregardless of scout results because the chances of hitting a player over an NPC is greater the more NPCs flake and fadeSeanzie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:06 pm One thing I'm kind of surprised that hasn't been mentioned yet in terms of mafia scout play is that idk if it is actually a good idea to kill their early "player" hits. This is especially true if the scout is someone they don't expect to live long.
In late game, if they are in elo with some NPCs still alive, having a confirmed town alive allows them to be outed post-flip, as one example of the benefit.
Speaking of, on that note I think the Ender NK may be a good example of that. Even with my little game-knowledge yesterday it’s not the first NK I would’ve expected to happen. So the fact that it did has some implications for the gamestate we live in I think
Even in that world though, I would imagine you’re gonna scout people who are mid- to high-profile in the thread while you NK people in the same range (which for the most part has happened from my limited understanding RE: the NKs so far), so if you’re a mafia team that’s scouting real players and then stockpiling them to intentionally shoot in the dark, then you don’t see who you’re scouting as threatening. Which probably has several interesting implications of its own. but I don’t have the mental capacity rn to try and figure them out
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It was a good means for me to actually get involved. I was pretty uninvolved at the start of the game, so examining who was being truthful in their suspicion of me vs who was chasing the lhf helped me get my footing.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:14 pmWilgy here showing an unusual amount of concern for the sus on his slot.
It is not uncommon for Wilgy to get heat, as he is a tricky read, and usually he cares very little.
How about you? You seem not concerned about the sus on you. What do you think of my takes on your slot?
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I can only speak in generalities until I have the ability to sit down at my computer and look into ISOs, so I don’t have specifics, but if Ender was such an obvious NPC as I saw some saying since the day started, then I don’t think Ender dies last night unless Ender was barking up the right tree and directly threatening someone on the team enough to take the risk
The fake claim could’ve played a part but as has already been mentioned NPCs are incentivized to claim because it literally doesn’t matter, and I always play like the mafia team is smarter than me, so I don’t think that it would play a huge role because they would have to be aware of that
The fake claim could’ve played a part but as has already been mentioned NPCs are incentivized to claim because it literally doesn’t matter, and I always play like the mafia team is smarter than me, so I don’t think that it would play a huge role because they would have to be aware of that
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I don't recall you doing so. Care to refresh my memory of the previous questioning on my slot?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:58 pmFalse. I can and I haveDrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:52 pmAye, you'll hmmm, but you won't question it would you?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:45 pmI'm seeing things in your ISO that make me go HmmmmmmDrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:00 pmWhy did you start with me specifically?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:49 pmI call it the Pinata Tactica PrincipiaDrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:35 pmYou aren't even scouting for data with this. What is your game plan Falc?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:13 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine
He's not a Doctor, he's not even an undergrad
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Now, as for who he was pushing, that’s gonna have to wait on an ISO read, but if that was a big part of why he died, then some good gems may be gleaned from his overall legacy
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I think you're aware of my wolf v town meta, and that while elements of my game thus far have emulated my wolf game, the timing of your push is somewhat sus.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:27 pmIt was a good means for me to actually get involved. I was pretty uninvolved at the start of the game, so examining who was being truthful in their suspicion of me vs who was chasing the lhf helped me get my footing.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:14 pmWilgy here showing an unusual amount of concern for the sus on his slot.
It is not uncommon for Wilgy to get heat, as he is a tricky read, and usually he cares very little.
How about you? You seem not concerned about the sus on you. What do you think of my takes on your slot?
I am rarely concerned about sus on my slot. I am nonplussed by nature...no, wait that's not right.
I'm naughty by nature. I learned to be nonplussed
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Well, it happened in my brain. I can show you the contents, but you have to sign a waiverDrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:29 pmI don't recall you doing so. Care to refresh my memory of the previous questioning on my slot?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:58 pmFalse. I can and I haveDrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:52 pmAye, you'll hmmm, but you won't question it would you?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:45 pmI'm seeing things in your ISO that make me go HmmmmmmDrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:00 pmWhy did you start with me specifically?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:49 pmI call it the Pinata Tactica Principia
Poke stuff til things fall out
we can't stop here...this is bat country!
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
I'm OMGUS towards you?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:38 pm @pyxxy, don't get me wrong. I do appreciate the analysis. What conclusion do you draw from this though?
You've posted plenty, you've put a lot of energy into the game comparatively, but still I see nothing read based from you except the OMGUS towards me.
Nothing the past few pages have really shifted my mindset. Schia is a wolf. Pyxxy and Falcon are both fine yeets as well.
Dear sir, I do believe I have only been shading you, not voting for you
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Wilgy, you got majorly pushed as a wagon, survived an ensuing tie because NPCs, and then it seems like most of the sus on you has disappeared since to where you still have dissenters but nobody is really pushing to vote you out
Do you think your wagon that day was scum-led or at least scum-motivated?
Do you think your wagon that day was scum-led or at least scum-motivated?
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
I am pushing to vote Wilgy out.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:46 pm Wilgy, you got majorly pushed as a wagon, survived an ensuing tie because NPCs, and then it seems like most of the sus on you has disappeared since to where you still have dissenters but nobody is really pushing to vote you out
Do you think your wagon that day was scum-led or at least scum-motivated?
What's your read on Wilgz? Cuz it kinda seems like you're TRing him off this post
we can't stop here...this is bat country!
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
idk I feel like IAWY is just asking a good question that I too am interested in seeing wigly answerfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:47 pmI am pushing to vote Wilgy out.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:46 pm Wilgy, you got majorly pushed as a wagon, survived an ensuing tie because NPCs, and then it seems like most of the sus on you has disappeared since to where you still have dissenters but nobody is really pushing to vote you out
Do you think your wagon that day was scum-led or at least scum-motivated?
What's your read on Wilgz? Cuz it kinda seems like you're TRing him off this post
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
How do you feel Wilgy's answer will change things or the way you see them this game?pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:50 pmidk I feel like IAWY is just asking a good question that I too am interested in seeing wigly answerfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:47 pmI am pushing to vote Wilgy out.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:46 pm Wilgy, you got majorly pushed as a wagon, survived an ensuing tie because NPCs, and then it seems like most of the sus on you has disappeared since to where you still have dissenters but nobody is really pushing to vote you out
Do you think your wagon that day was scum-led or at least scum-motivated?
What's your read on Wilgz? Cuz it kinda seems like you're TRing him off this post
we can't stop here...this is bat country!
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
haha remember when santy was a major wagon haha unless?
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ahh but tutuu's legacy...
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
I am very conflicted, I originally came into writing the post thinking it was a knock against Wilgy. But I was on the store and writing it sporadically so I had to think about it before I finished the post, and the more I think about it, the more it comes across as something that could potentially be town-indicative too, maybe even moreso. I can see it both ways though, and Wilgy is still a divisive player in this game wrt everybody else’s reads on him, while I’m just reacting off parrot echos to try and make sense of the game atm, so I don’t really have a genuine read on Wilgy yetfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:47 pmI am pushing to vote Wilgy out.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:46 pm Wilgy, you got majorly pushed as a wagon, survived an ensuing tie because NPCs, and then it seems like most of the sus on you has disappeared since to where you still have dissenters but nobody is really pushing to vote you out
Do you think your wagon that day was scum-led or at least scum-motivated?
What's your read on Wilgz? Cuz it kinda seems like you're TRing him off this post
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haha what if everyone is town lmao
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
EBWOPInawordyes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 7:05 pmI am very conflicted, I originally came into writing the post thinking it was a knock against Wilgy. But I was at the store and writing it sporadically so I had time to think about it before I finished the post, and the more I think about it, the more it comes across as something that could potentially be town-indicative too, maybe even moreso. I can see it both ways though, and Wilgy is still a divisive player in this game wrt everybody else’s reads on him, while I’m just reacting off parrot echos to try and make sense of the game atm, so I don’t really have a genuine read on Wilgy yetfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:47 pmI am pushing to vote Wilgy out.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:46 pm Wilgy, you got majorly pushed as a wagon, survived an ensuing tie because NPCs, and then it seems like most of the sus on you has disappeared since to where you still have dissenters but nobody is really pushing to vote you out
Do you think your wagon that day was scum-led or at least scum-motivated?
What's your read on Wilgz? Cuz it kinda seems like you're TRing him off this post
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Then we have to change the name of this game from Mafia to Townia
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Timing of my push. Define that for me as that makes very little sense in terms of context.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:43 pmI think you're aware of my wolf v town meta, and that while elements of my game thus far have emulated my wolf game, the timing of your push is somewhat sus.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:27 pmIt was a good means for me to actually get involved. I was pretty uninvolved at the start of the game, so examining who was being truthful in their suspicion of me vs who was chasing the lhf helped me get my footing.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:14 pmWilgy here showing an unusual amount of concern for the sus on his slot.
It is not uncommon for Wilgy to get heat, as he is a tricky read, and usually he cares very little.
How about you? You seem not concerned about the sus on you. What do you think of my takes on your slot?
I am rarely concerned about sus on my slot. I am nonplussed by nature...no, wait that's not right.
I'm naughty by nature. I learned to be nonplussed
Jack pushed on you and I specifically advised against it because of the timing. It was simple enough to see both a world where T Falcon was lost in NPC madness and W Falcon just didn't want to play.
Because of that (probably poor decision) we lost Lily.
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Trying to find you this game is proving to be frustrating.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:44 pmWell, it happened in my brain. I can show you the contents, but you have to sign a waiverDrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:29 pmI don't recall you doing so. Care to refresh my memory of the previous questioning on my slot?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:58 pmFalse. I can and I haveDrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:52 pmAye, you'll hmmm, but you won't question it would you?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:45 pmI'm seeing things in your ISO that make me go HmmmmmmDrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:00 pmWhy did you start with me specifically?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:49 pm
I call it the Pinata Tactica Principia
Poke stuff til things fall out
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
No one expressed any REAL read on me though. I was mostly AFK and Ran kept shouting VCA VCA without actually defining why that made sense. I still have half the mind to think that Ran was just a wolfsiding npc and that's where most of the momentum came from.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:46 pm Wilgy, you got majorly pushed as a wagon, survived an ensuing tie because NPCs, and then it seems like most of the sus on you has disappeared since to where you still have dissenters but nobody is really pushing to vote you out
Do you think your wagon that day was scum-led or at least scum-motivated?
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
I even tried to have Ran explain multiple times and they just never did.
Something something 'that's just my style' doesn't make a good argument.
Something something 'that's just my style' doesn't make a good argument.
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Does it only count as OMGUS if you vote? Even so, it did feel like a simple 'no u' as you shaded only after I DIRECTLY expressed my concern on your slot.pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:44 pmI'm OMGUS towards you?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:38 pm @pyxxy, don't get me wrong. I do appreciate the analysis. What conclusion do you draw from this though?
You've posted plenty, you've put a lot of energy into the game comparatively, but still I see nothing read based from you except the OMGUS towards me.
Nothing the past few pages have really shifted my mindset. Schia is a wolf. Pyxxy and Falcon are both fine yeets as well.
Dear sir, I do believe I have only been shading you, not voting for you
Also since then you've still not expressed any sort of conclusion drawn from your analysis and reading as far as I've seen. Like, do I need a password or something to get them?
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
People pleasin'!falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 7:09 pmThen we have to change the name of this game from Mafia to Townia
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
if they answer good they get a gold star if they answer bad they get the red markerfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:54 pmHow do you feel Wilgy's answer will change things or the way you see them this game?pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:50 pmidk I feel like IAWY is just asking a good question that I too am interested in seeing wigly answerfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:47 pmI am pushing to vote Wilgy out.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:46 pm Wilgy, you got majorly pushed as a wagon, survived an ensuing tie because NPCs, and then it seems like most of the sus on you has disappeared since to where you still have dissenters but nobody is really pushing to vote you out
Do you think your wagon that day was scum-led or at least scum-motivated?
What's your read on Wilgz? Cuz it kinda seems like you're TRing him off this post
looks like a star is in store for wigly
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Ok but I dont really have a reason to think anybody playing would "fuck up" the NK's the way they have, so how am I supposed to exclude anybody based on that reason?
You're being an unacceptable level of stupid, with zero sexy, and no sense of humor.
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Did you not, the same RD, go from "T falcon may be lost", to "Let's vote falcon"? That kind of timing.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 7:20 pmTiming of my push. Define that for me as that makes very little sense in terms of context.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:43 pmI think you're aware of my wolf v town meta, and that while elements of my game thus far have emulated my wolf game, the timing of your push is somewhat sus.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:27 pmIt was a good means for me to actually get involved. I was pretty uninvolved at the start of the game, so examining who was being truthful in their suspicion of me vs who was chasing the lhf helped me get my footing.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:14 pmWilgy here showing an unusual amount of concern for the sus on his slot.
It is not uncommon for Wilgy to get heat, as he is a tricky read, and usually he cares very little.
How about you? You seem not concerned about the sus on you. What do you think of my takes on your slot?
I am rarely concerned about sus on my slot. I am nonplussed by nature...no, wait that's not right.
I'm naughty by nature. I learned to be nonplussed
Jack pushed on you and I specifically advised against it because of the timing. It was simple enough to see both a world where T Falcon was lost in NPC madness and W Falcon just didn't want to play.
Because of that (probably poor decision) we lost Lily.
In fact, it took you from 11AM to 4PM on Tuesday to come to that decision. As if that would be enough time for T falcon to arrive at the party
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