Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D1)
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:57 am
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
I prefer being town over mafia 100 times out of 10.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:57 am Sloonei is some sort of hybrid Golden-JJJ monstrosity right now, is this his final form? He just played a dastardly villain in GoC so now he might be supatowning hard
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:55 pmThe intention of the posts themselves was not to speculate about mechanics. That particular post was me realizing that it was probably not a host error, and a search for answers among the folks who knew the theme better than I do. I don’t actually give a shit what the speculative mechanics might be. I just care that the possibility for mechanics exists.ts account wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:53 pm If you say this was not your intent, then what exactly did you mean by this? I can't interpret it as anything else.
Now explain why my mindset is not indicative of an honest civilian.
What else could you think mindmelding with leetic meant in that scenario?Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:56 amYou had not mentioned that you suspected me for Not Generating Contentl that point, so I saw it as an attempt to offer a new justification for a previously-stated suspicion, which could very well be bad, yes.ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:53 am My favorite part was when I repeated something I said and you called it backtracking, and explained how it justified my point, and you called it "re-justification". (Is that even bad? Do you mean to say I changed my justification for it? That feels kind of abstract and isn't even true if it is what you meant.)
Through the conversation we’ve had in the interim I can see how that point could have been associated with your initial point.
I genuinely did not know or care what that part meant. Til that point my interpretation of your suspicion of me was that I was bad for focusing on mechanics. I had not made the leap from that to “Not Generating Content or Interacting With Others.” I would not generally make that leap. Because I don’t think that talking about mechanics excludes the possibly of doing those other things.ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:03 amWhat else could you think mindmelding with leetic meant in that scenario?Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:56 amYou had not mentioned that you suspected me for Not Generating Contentl that point, so I saw it as an attempt to offer a new justification for a previously-stated suspicion, which could very well be bad, yes.ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:53 am My favorite part was when I repeated something I said and you called it backtracking, and explained how it justified my point, and you called it "re-justification". (Is that even bad? Do you mean to say I changed my justification for it? That feels kind of abstract and isn't even true if it is what you meant.)
Through the conversation we’ve had in the interim I can see how that point could have been associated with your initial point.
False town Sloonei aggressive lyncherSloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:05 am I can see how ts account could have interpreted my reaction to him as an aggressive push to “get him lynched.” I’m not sure what his mafia experience is, but it’s believable that that sort of overt manipulation is not irregular to him.
It is not how I operate regardless of my alignment.
Because the reasons he gave when asked to provide reasons for things checked out.
Aggressive hunter, cautious lyncher.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:09 amFalse town Sloonei aggressive lyncherSloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:05 am I can see how ts account could have interpreted my reaction to him as an aggressive push to “get him lynched.” I’m not sure what his mafia experience is, but it’s believable that that sort of overt manipulation is not irregular to him.
It is not how I operate regardless of my alignment.
I don’t like this post from Drago. Ironically it’s seems like something I’d post but that’s irrelevant.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:16 am Sloonei is town. There was absolutely nothing wrong with him talking mechanically. It's not pro anything and doesn't deter the game at all. An argument could be made that it is beneficial towards the game and lets you understand what could be going on. That newfound understanding can better your reads.
Why was Sloonei being voted for mechanical talk? Ts why are you gungho about it? I can't help but agree with Sloonei that suspecting someone over mechanical is suspicious in of itself. It's lazy and never actually feels like a genuine read. Furthermore, scum use this too much to get by with their fake suspicions. Thus why it feels lazy and not genuine.
Seems like it is some form of mechanic after all.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:46 am<3 thanks! Will get into OP tonightSloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:30 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME i made isos.
Dragomir
Epignosis
Funnygurl555
leetic
Long Con
MacDougall
Master Radishes
Sloonei
speedchuck
tedxtr
ts account
Turnip Head
Tell me moreTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:12 amI don’t like this post from Drago. Ironically it’s seems like something I’d post but that’s irrelevant.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:16 am Sloonei is town. There was absolutely nothing wrong with him talking mechanically. It's not pro anything and doesn't deter the game at all. An argument could be made that it is beneficial towards the game and lets you understand what could be going on. That newfound understanding can better your reads.
Why was Sloonei being voted for mechanical talk? Ts why are you gungho about it? I can't help but agree with Sloonei that suspecting someone over mechanical is suspicious in of itself. It's lazy and never actually feels like a genuine read. Furthermore, scum use this too much to get by with their fake suspicions. Thus why it feels lazy and not genuine.
I accept this as indisputable truth without reservation.tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:18 am I have information beyond human language comprehension that states JJJ and nutella are having a sweat-inducing tic-tac-toe match as of right now and whoever gets to 3 wins first, gets to join us after killing their adversary. That's how real assassins were dealing with other assassins stepping on their hunting turf. I played the games, trust me.
It’s Day 1 though.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:38 am i didn't like that all dragomir really did was be sloonei's hype man. not in a "that's scummy" or "that's bad play" but it's not something that deserves brownie points imo
also y'all stop getting ya panties in a bunch with the mikey x sloonei stuff it's a slippery slope and not what you want your d0 discussion to be
trust me
This was the post I liked from Drago. I asked him why he agreed with something I said. The reason he stated mirrored what I was thinking but had not said.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:24 amHis entire premise for the vote is dumb. He assumes that you'll open the same way as you did in another game and since you didn't, it's justification for why you're scum. It's meta and it's stupid meta. Most people don't always open up the exact same way in games that they're in regardless of alignment. I'm confident that I could easily find a game in which he opened differently from this one and day that he's scum.
He's either...
1. Ignoring how dumb his logic is and is just trying to create something against you to contribute.
2. Not realizing how dumb his logic is.
If it's 1, then he's a lazy scum. If it's 2, then he's a lazy townie.
fine it's not what you want your d1 discussion to beSloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:40 amIt’s Day 1 though.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:38 am i didn't like that all dragomir really did was be sloonei's hype man. not in a "that's scummy" or "that's bad play" but it's not something that deserves brownie points imo
also y'all stop getting ya panties in a bunch with the mikey x sloonei stuff it's a slippery slope and not what you want your d0 discussion to be
trust me
What's wrong with Sloonei and I mindmelding? Who is giving me brownie points cause of it?Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:38 am i didn't like that all dragomir really did was be sloonei's hype man. not in a "that's scummy" or "that's bad play" but it's not something that deserves brownie points imo
also y'all stop getting ya panties in a bunch with the mikey x sloonei stuff it's a slippery slope and not what you want your d0 discussion to be
trust me
sloonei is (yeahh i saw your post bout you liking one of dragomir's posts but still i mean, you know?)Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:45 amWhat's wrong with Sloonei and I mindmelding? Who is giving me brownie points cause of it?Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:38 am i didn't like that all dragomir really did was be sloonei's hype man. not in a "that's scummy" or "that's bad play" but it's not something that deserves brownie points imo
also y'all stop getting ya panties in a bunch with the mikey x sloonei stuff it's a slippery slope and not what you want your d0 discussion to be
trust me
Mechanical discussion is widely regarded as a scumtell because it's one of the easiest types of discussion to engage in.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:43 am @ts account why is mechanical talk a bad thing? I don't think you have yet to explain that, if so, my bad for missing it. Either way can you express that for me? The answer to your question is option 1.
The situation between ts and Sloo is VvsV. I am quite sure about it. I don't sense wolf coming out from them.
What would you like us to be talking about today?
idk man sloonei strikes me as the type to be too sneaky to drop a tell like thatts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:50 amMechanical discussion is widely regarded as a scumtell because it's one of the easiest types of discussion to engage in.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:43 am @ts account why is mechanical talk a bad thing? I don't think you have yet to explain that, if so, my bad for missing it. Either way can you express that for me? The answer to your question is option 1.
The situation between ts and Sloo is VvsV. I am quite sure about it. I don't sense wolf coming out from them.
Does anything in particular make you lean towards option one?
I disagree with all my heart.ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:50 amMechanical discussion is widely regarded as a scumtell because it's one of the easiest types of discussion to engage in.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:43 am @ts account why is mechanical talk a bad thing? I don't think you have yet to explain that, if so, my bad for missing it. Either way can you express that for me? The answer to your question is option 1.
The situation between ts and Sloo is VvsV. I am quite sure about it. I don't sense wolf coming out from them.
I didn't even state my reasoning, why do you like the vote?Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:53 amidk man sloonei strikes me as the type to be too sneaky to drop a tell like thatts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:50 amMechanical discussion is widely regarded as a scumtell because it's one of the easiest types of discussion to engage in.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:43 am @ts account why is mechanical talk a bad thing? I don't think you have yet to explain that, if so, my bad for missing it. Either way can you express that for me? The answer to your question is option 1.
The situation between ts and Sloo is VvsV. I am quite sure about it. I don't sense wolf coming out from them.
Does anything in particular make you lean towards option one?
i like ted that leetic vote was SPICY
it's spicy ;__;tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:54 amI didn't even state my reasoning, why do you like the vote?Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:53 amidk man sloonei strikes me as the type to be too sneaky to drop a tell like thatts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:50 amMechanical discussion is widely regarded as a scumtell because it's one of the easiest types of discussion to engage in.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:43 am @ts account why is mechanical talk a bad thing? I don't think you have yet to explain that, if so, my bad for missing it. Either way can you express that for me? The answer to your question is option 1.
The situation between ts and Sloo is VvsV. I am quite sure about it. I don't sense wolf coming out from them.
Does anything in particular make you lean towards option one?
i like ted that leetic vote was SPICY
It should not be considered a scumtell. I have seen a lot more townies than scum tall about the game mechanics. Furthermore, it actually helped progress the game and assisted in making reads on others. Mechanical talk is not bad at all regardless of our easy it is to create a discussion out of. On the contrary suspecting somebody for mechanical talk is a much greater scumtell because scums actually do this and it's a very lazy and easy read to go off because you could just say "someone is not really contributing by talking about game mechanics" or whatever.ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:50 amMechanical discussion is widely regarded as a scumtell because it's one of the easiest types of discussion to engage in.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:43 am @ts account why is mechanical talk a bad thing? I don't think you have yet to explain that, if so, my bad for missing it. Either way can you express that for me? The answer to your question is option 1.
The situation between ts and Sloo is VvsV. I am quite sure about it. I don't sense wolf coming out from them.
Does anything in particular make you lean towards option one?
Why not? It seems that you guys have plenty of experience with each other. What is your read on him here?Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:55 amwell i mean i WANNA meme 'til an hour before eod but since that's UNPRODUCTIVE i wanna see a boxing match that doesn't... include mikey lol
Yes.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:59 am ok i gotta ask what's up with radish and turnip accs viewing the thread
at first i saw a turnip and was like "cool" but now there's also a radish and does the syndicate have a root vegetable fetish?
She knows I am town, but it remains to be seen whether that is because she is a wolf or because she has the good read on me.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:01 amWhy not? It seems that you guys have plenty of experience with each other. What is your read on him here?Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:55 amwell i mean i WANNA meme 'til an hour before eod but since that's UNPRODUCTIVE i wanna see a boxing match that doesn't... include mikey lol
Is there anyone or anything we're not talking about enough?
I mean no offense to you, but many many more games of mafia have been played than you have witnessed. Just because you have not seen the same behavior does not make that behavior a general indicator of alignment.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:00 am It should not be considered a scumtell. I have seen a lot more townies than scum tall about the game mechanics. Furthermore, it actually helped progress the game and assisted in making reads on others. Mechanical talk is not bad at all regardless of our easy it is to create a discussion out of. On the contrary suspecting somebody for mechanical talk is a much greater scumtell because scums actually do this and it's a very lazy and easy read to go off because you could just say "someone is not really contributing by talking about game mechanics" or whatever.
Because I fail to comprehend as to how a townie would actually want to use such horrendous logic to vote someone.
i keep seeing mikey vs other person boxing matches and his actual alignment is like a coin flip when that happens. personally it doesn't help me read him so i guess i'm being selfish when i say "pls stop"Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:01 amWhy not? It seems that you guys have plenty of experience with each other. What is your read on him here?Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:55 amwell i mean i WANNA meme 'til an hour before eod but since that's UNPRODUCTIVE i wanna see a boxing match that doesn't... include mikey lol
Is there anyone or anything we're not talking about enough?
i mean you have some townie points but you're not there yetts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:03 amShe knows I am town, but it remains to be seen whether that is because she is a wolf or because she has the good read on me.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:01 amWhy not? It seems that you guys have plenty of experience with each other. What is your read on him here?Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:55 amwell i mean i WANNA meme 'til an hour before eod but since that's UNPRODUCTIVE i wanna see a boxing match that doesn't... include mikey lol
Is there anyone or anything we're not talking about enough?
I could use the same logic against you. You have only played a fraction of the amount of mafia games that exist so you can't truly know that mechanical talk is widely considered a scumtell. It might have been from the games you've played but not the many others have.ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:05 amI mean no offense to you, but many many more games of mafia have been played than you have witnessed. Just because you have not seen the same behavior does not make that behavior a general indicator of alignment.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:00 am It should not be considered a scumtell. I have seen a lot more townies than scum tall about the game mechanics. Furthermore, it actually helped progress the game and assisted in making reads on others. Mechanical talk is not bad at all regardless of our easy it is to create a discussion out of. On the contrary suspecting somebody for mechanical talk is a much greater scumtell because scums actually do this and it's a very lazy and easy read to go off because you could just say "someone is not really contributing by talking about game mechanics" or whatever.
Because I fail to comprehend as to how a townie would actually want to use such horrendous logic to vote someone.
If anybody suspects another player for mechanical discussion, however, I will alert you.