Rave Master Mafia

[Alison]

And Alison mysteriously disappears...

It was a morale-improving disappearance. I entertained you all with my magic trick.

[Porscha]

Please explain how my agression relates to a 5050 coin flip.

did it occur to you that when I thirded that read, I was considering allison as the wolf between you two. or did you assume my comment about your aggression towards allison was pointing at you being an aggressive wolf and me defending allison? not intended

You seem to imply Alison is the wolf you third. Can you quote the posts you were looking at to conclude this? Preferably wirh explanations as to why they caused you to third? The game is small so this should be easy.

sorry can you reword "You seem to imply Alison is the wolf you third" i'm not sober and my brain doesnt make sense of it

I'm also not sober, so sorry.

You said "thirded" to a post that was about me or Alison having to be a wolf, then after I asked you, you strongly implied that you were considering Alison as the wolf.

Please quote the posts that Alison posted that made you suspicious of Alison and please explain your suspicion.

oh honestly the one game I played with alison she didn't start like this so I found it mildly off putting and your pushing of her felt naturally townie I guess? god I hope I dont come to eat those words

How many times have you been wolf? Can you quote me two recent wolf games of yours?

https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/sfm-as ... /1856/5935

https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/prehis ... /1550/4549

sorry they are both on FoL lol

[Seanzie]

@Alison what do you think of Porscha?

I think they received a sudden spike of pressure for a relatively casual vibes read and are scrambling as a result of this.

I am playing differently than usual; I don't begrudge them (or you) the suspicion towards me. Based on what I have seen of Porscha the scrambling is NAI.

I have a slight townread on them, because I think they would be too intimidated to commit to a position that one of me or you is a wolf early on.

And what is your read on me?

[Alison]

@Alison what do you think of Porscha?

I think they received a sudden spike of pressure for a relatively casual vibes read and are scrambling as a result of this.

I am playing differently than usual; I don't begrudge them (or you) the suspicion towards me. Based on what I have seen of Porscha the scrambling is NAI.

I have a slight townread on them, because I think they would be too intimidated to commit to a position that one of me or you is a wolf early on.

And what is your read on me?

I don't have one.

[Seanzie]

@Alison what do you think of Porscha?

I think they received a sudden spike of pressure for a relatively casual vibes read and are scrambling as a result of this.

I am playing differently than usual; I don't begrudge them (or you) the suspicion towards me. Based on what I have seen of Porscha the scrambling is NAI.

I have a slight townread on them, because I think they would be too intimidated to commit to a position that one of me or you is a wolf early on.

And what is your read on me?

I don't have one.

Really?

[Alison]

@Alison what do you think of Porscha?

I think they received a sudden spike of pressure for a relatively casual vibes read and are scrambling as a result of this.

I am playing differently than usual; I don't begrudge them (or you) the suspicion towards me. Based on what I have seen of Porscha the scrambling is NAI.

I have a slight townread on them, because I think they would be too intimidated to commit to a position that one of me or you is a wolf early on.

And what is your read on me?

I don't have one.

Really?

Yes.

[Seanzie]

did it occur to you that when I thirded that read, I was considering allison as the wolf between you two. or did you assume my comment about your aggression towards allison was pointing at you being an aggressive wolf and me defending allison? not intended

You seem to imply Alison is the wolf you third. Can you quote the posts you were looking at to conclude this? Preferably wirh explanations as to why they caused you to third? The game is small so this should be easy.

sorry can you reword "You seem to imply Alison is the wolf you third" i'm not sober and my brain doesnt make sense of it

I'm also not sober, so sorry.

You said "thirded" to a post that was about me or Alison having to be a wolf, then after I asked you, you strongly implied that you were considering Alison as the wolf.

Please quote the posts that Alison posted that made you suspicious of Alison and please explain your suspicion.

oh honestly the one game I played with alison she didn't start like this so I found it mildly off putting and your pushing of her felt naturally townie I guess? god I hope I dont come to eat those words

How many times have you been wolf? Can you quote me two recent wolf games of yours?

https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/sfm-as ... /1856/5935

https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/prehis ... /1550/4549

sorry they are both on FoL lol

How many times have you been wolf?

[Seanzie]

@Alison what do you think of Porscha?

I think they received a sudden spike of pressure for a relatively casual vibes read and are scrambling as a result of this.

I am playing differently than usual; I don't begrudge them (or you) the suspicion towards me. Based on what I have seen of Porscha the scrambling is NAI.

I have a slight townread on them, because I think they would be too intimidated to commit to a position that one of me or you is a wolf early on.

And what is your read on me?

I don't have one.

Really?

Yes.

Can I vote you a second time?

[Alison]

Alison and Seanzie had the worst entrances. Doubt it's w/w theater though.

DrWilgy, falcon45ca and NANOOK seemed towny roughly this order

What about DoO?

Not really indicative of anything

I think these posts are scummy. Discuss.

[Alison]

@Alison what do you think of Porscha?

I think they received a sudden spike of pressure for a relatively casual vibes read and are scrambling as a result of this.

I am playing differently than usual; I don't begrudge them (or you) the suspicion towards me. Based on what I have seen of Porscha the scrambling is NAI.

I have a slight townread on them, because I think they would be too intimidated to commit to a position that one of me or you is a wolf early on.

And what is your read on me?

I don't have one.

Really?

Yes.

Can I vote you a second time?

You can try.

[Porscha]

You seem to imply Alison is the wolf you third. Can you quote the posts you were looking at to conclude this? Preferably wirh explanations as to why they caused you to third? The game is small so this should be easy.

sorry can you reword "You seem to imply Alison is the wolf you third" i'm not sober and my brain doesnt make sense of it

I'm also not sober, so sorry.

You said "thirded" to a post that was about me or Alison having to be a wolf, then after I asked you, you strongly implied that you were considering Alison as the wolf.

Please quote the posts that Alison posted that made you suspicious of Alison and please explain your suspicion.

oh honestly the one game I played with alison she didn't start like this so I found it mildly off putting and your pushing of her felt naturally townie I guess? god I hope I dont come to eat those words

How many times have you been wolf? Can you quote me two recent wolf games of yours?

https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/sfm-as ... /1856/5935

https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/prehis ... /1550/4549

sorry they are both on FoL lol

How many times have you been wolf?

those 2 times lol

[Seanzie]

Alison is wolf. I am reasonably confident in this. Please someone speak up if they disagree. Otherwise I am currently calling for a D1 Alison Elim.

[Alison]

Alison is wolf. I am reasonably confident in this. Please someone speak up if they disagree. Otherwise I am currently calling for a D1 Alison Elim.

I disagree. I think she is town.

[Seanzie]

Alison is wolf. I am reasonably confident in this. Please someone speak up if they disagree. Otherwise I am currently calling for a D1 Alison Elim.

I disagree. I think she is town.

Alison is wolf. I am reasonably confident in this. Please anyone who is not Alison please speak up if they disagree. Otherwise I am currently calling for a D1 Alison Elim.

[Alison]

Alison and Seanzie had the worst entrances. Doubt it's w/w theater though.

DrWilgy, falcon45ca and NANOOK seemed towny roughly this order

What about DoO?

Not really indicative of anything

I think these posts are scummy. Discuss.

[DaughterOfOmega]

I drank so much caffeine that my legs/heart feel uneasy and my head hurts.

wouldn't be surprised to have a seizure tonight, but w.e can't sleep

[Alison]

I drank so much caffeine that my legs/heart feel uneasy and my head hurts.

wouldn't be surprised to have a seizure tonight, but w.e can't sleep

You might wish to see a doctor.

[DaughterOfOmega]

I drank so much caffeine that my legs/heart feel uneasy and my head hurts.

wouldn't be surprised to have a seizure tonight, but w.e can't sleep

You might wish to see a doctor.

nah, it's happened before

well, with no insurance I'm not seeing a doctor either way

[Alison]

You might wish to dismantle capitalism and replace it with a socialist system of universal healthcare.

Also comment on the Creature posts, please.

[Porscha]

Alison and Seanzie had the worst entrances. Doubt it's w/w theater though.

DrWilgy, falcon45ca and NANOOK seemed towny roughly this order

What about DoO?

Not really indicative of anything

I think these posts are scummy. Discuss.

I always think creature is scummy there's no way around it

[DaughterOfOmega]

nothing from creature is outside of any low quality town post I've seen him make in the past

I think it's weird to say "it's not w/w theater" but is it something coming from a perspective of mafia? doesn't come across that way

[Seanzie]

Alison is a wolf and we need to kill her today.

[Alison]

Do you think the posts I quoted are low quality?

[Seanzie]

are you talking to me

[Alison]

Alison is a wolf and we need to kill her today.

Why?

[Alison]

are you talking to me

No, the low quality remark was directed at DOO, who implied that Creature's posts were low quality.

[DaughterOfOmega]

Do you think the posts I quoted are low quality?

I don't think either post brings anything of value to the game

[Seanzie]

Alison is a wolf and we need to kill her today.

Why?

I know you well enough to know that you know me well enough that you'd have a read on me if you were town. You can claim you're busy, and I believe that you're busy, but regardless of your business, you're just a wolf. Sorry about your rand.

[Alison]

Do you think the posts I quoted are low quality?

I don't think either post brings anything of value to the game

I think they bring more value to the game than most other posts on that page because they state reads and the other posts are just chilling. That's not why I dislike them.

I dislike them because Nanook's posts are extremely obviously NAI and I find it odd that Creature disagrees. I could buy that he was just stretching to try to make a read on everyone, but when I questioned him about you being left out, he just shrugged and said you had no AI content.

[Porscha]

Alison is a wolf and we need to kill her today.

Why?

I know you well enough to know that you know me well enough that you'd have a read on me if you were town. You can claim you're busy, and I believe that you're busy, but regardless of your business, you're just a wolf. Sorry about your rand.

:o lol

[Seanzie]

Alison is a wolf and we need to kill her today.

Why?

I know you well enough to know that you know me well enough that you'd have a read on me if you were town. You can claim you're busy, and I believe that you're busy, but regardless of your business, you're just a wolf. Sorry about your rand.

:o lol

elaborate please. What do you think about my post?

[Alison]

Alison is a wolf and we need to kill her today.

Why?

I know you well enough to know that you know me well enough that you'd have a read on me if you were town. You can claim you're busy, and I believe that you're busy, but regardless of your business, you're just a wolf. Sorry about your rand.

Why would me knowing you well mean that I would definitely have a read on you as town?

[DaughterOfOmega]

I hope these side effects go away, I got shit to do tomorrow

[Porscha]

Alison is a wolf and we need to kill her today.

Why?

I know you well enough to know that you know me well enough that you'd have a read on me if you were town. You can claim you're busy, and I believe that you're busy, but regardless of your business, you're just a wolf. Sorry about your rand.

:o lol

elaborate please. What do you think about my post?

I feel like you saw me call your previous posts aggressive and in your mind you thought, "porscha hasn't SEEN aggressive yet" and then proceeded to type out that neck choking post

[Seanzie]

Alison is a wolf and we need to kill her today.

Why?

I know you well enough to know that you know me well enough that you'd have a read on me if you were town. You can claim you're busy, and I believe that you're busy, but regardless of your business, you're just a wolf. Sorry about your rand.

Why would me knowing you well mean that I would definitely have a read on you as town?

Why indeed. You tell me.

In particular, what is your read one me right now? please don't say "I don't have one", but please tell me exactly what you think of me and my alignment

[Seanzie]

Alison is a wolf and we need to kill her today.

Why?

I know you well enough to know that you know me well enough that you'd have a read on me if you were town. You can claim you're busy, and I believe that you're busy, but regardless of your business, you're just a wolf. Sorry about your rand.

:o lol

elaborate please. What do you think about my post?

I feel like you saw me call your previous posts aggressive and in your mind you thought, "porscha hasn't SEEN aggressive yet" and then proceeded to type out that neck choking post

How do you feel about Alison? I'd like a clear read along with details if possible.

[Porscha]

Alison is a wolf and we need to kill her today.

Why?

I know you well enough to know that you know me well enough that you'd have a read on me if you were town. You can claim you're busy, and I believe that you're busy, but regardless of your business, you're just a wolf. Sorry about your rand.

:o lol

elaborate please. What do you think about my post?

I feel like you saw me call your previous posts aggressive and in your mind you thought, "porscha hasn't SEEN aggressive yet" and then proceeded to type out that neck choking post

How do you feel about Alison? I'd like a clear read along with details if possible.

why must you ask so much of me

[Porscha]

Why?

I know you well enough to know that you know me well enough that you'd have a read on me if you were town. You can claim you're busy, and I believe that you're busy, but regardless of your business, you're just a wolf. Sorry about your rand.

:o lol

elaborate please. What do you think about my post?

I feel like you saw me call your previous posts aggressive and in your mind you thought, "porscha hasn't SEEN aggressive yet" and then proceeded to type out that neck choking post

How do you feel about Alison? I'd like a clear read along with details if possible.

why must you ask so much of me

honestly i've only played I think 1 game with alison so I don't have a lot of experience with them and tbf she could absolutely just be playing casually since she's busy doing irl stuff so I'm not by any means hard sold on her being wolf, but I don't mind you pushing her more anyway since i'm not town reading her either

[Seanzie]

Why?

I know you well enough to know that you know me well enough that you'd have a read on me if you were town. You can claim you're busy, and I believe that you're busy, but regardless of your business, you're just a wolf. Sorry about your rand.

:o lol

elaborate please. What do you think about my post?

I feel like you saw me call your previous posts aggressive and in your mind you thought, "porscha hasn't SEEN aggressive yet" and then proceeded to type out that neck choking post

How do you feel about Alison? I'd like a clear read along with details if possible.

why must you ask so much of me

I'd appreciate your answer. I very strongly think Alison is an outed wolf. You earlier seemed to think so too. Why? Is that so weird a question?

[Porscha]

I know you well enough to know that you know me well enough that you'd have a read on me if you were town. You can claim you're busy, and I believe that you're busy, but regardless of your business, you're just a wolf. Sorry about your rand.

:o lol

elaborate please. What do you think about my post?

I feel like you saw me call your previous posts aggressive and in your mind you thought, "porscha hasn't SEEN aggressive yet" and then proceeded to type out that neck choking post

How do you feel about Alison? I'd like a clear read along with details if possible.

why must you ask so much of me

I'd appreciate your answer. I very strongly think Alison is an outed wolf. You earlier seemed to think so too. Why? Is that so weird a question?

no but I wouldn't call how I felt about it as her being an outed wolf. just didn't think this was theater between you two and I feel like sometimes interactions like this end up hitting wolves, so between the 2 of you, since you were doing so much pushing, I didn't think it would be you

[Alison]

Alison is a wolf and we need to kill her today.

Why?

I know you well enough to know that you know me well enough that you'd have a read on me if you were town. You can claim you're busy, and I believe that you're busy, but regardless of your business, you're just a wolf. Sorry about your rand.

Why would me knowing you well mean that I would definitely have a read on you as town?

Why indeed. You tell me.

In particular, what is your read one me right now? please don't say "I don't have one", but please tell me exactly what you think of me and my alignment

Here are my full thoughts on you.

I have three tells that I am confident are good at determining your alignment before flips happen. The first is that you are appease-y and try to avoid causing offense as wolf. The second tell is that you are a "grumpy Boomer" (not my words) as town, making hostile and somtimes contrarian remarks to fish reactions out of people or apply pressure. The third tell is a specific line that I have seen you use repeatedly as town and only town, which is when you turn up the pressure on someone to try to get them to attempt to pocket you by reading you town, only to challenge them on why they are reading you town, invoking the line "I have done nothing townie" or similar.

You are not appease-y this game, but neither are you as prickly as I expect you to be. For instance, when you briefly voted and questioned Porscha, you let them off with fairly softball questions asking them to clarify their meaning and provide some wolf games before backing off. The only person you have really turned up the aggression against is me... but I am not someone who is easily ruffled or pressured into cracking, and furthermore, I have applied the "prickly grumpy Boomer" tell enough times in the past that if you were faking it, I would be the one you would be performing for the most intensely.

I have been waiting for you to use the "I have done nothing townie" line; Porscha gave you an opportunity, and you didn't take it. I stonewalled you with posts like the "morale" joke, and "I agree", to frustrate you and see if you would push elsewhere and demonstrate that town tell. You haven't, except for a brief foray onto Porscha; you've mostly stayed tunnelled on me.

I was waiting for you to do something I can confidently read before saying anything, hence: "I have no read on you". If you put a gun to my head and asked me to name you either town or mafia, I would say I am leaning towards mafia, because the way you have targeted specifically me with your aggression, persisting despite a stonewall, feels targeted to pocket me through the meta that you know I read you on. But I am uncertain of this.

That's how I feel about you.

[Seanzie]

Alison is a wolf and we need to kill her today.

Why?

I know you well enough to know that you know me well enough that you'd have a read on me if you were town. You can claim you're busy, and I believe that you're busy, but regardless of your business, you're just a wolf. Sorry about your rand.

Why would me knowing you well mean that I would definitely have a read on you as town?

Why indeed. You tell me.

In particular, what is your read one me right now? please don't say "I don't have one", but please tell me exactly what you think of me and my alignment

Here are my full thoughts on you.

I have three tells that I am confident are good at determining your alignment before flips happen. The first is that you are appease-y and try to avoid causing offense as wolf. The second tell is that you are a "grumpy Boomer" (not my words) as town, making hostile and somtimes contrarian remarks to fish reactions out of people or apply pressure. The third tell is a specific line that I have seen you use repeatedly as town and only town, which is when you turn up the pressure on someone to try to get them to attempt to pocket you by reading you town, only to challenge them on why they are reading you town, invoking the line "I have done nothing townie" or similar.

You are not appease-y this game, but neither are you as prickly as I expect you to be. For instance, when you briefly voted and questioned Porscha, you let them off with fairly softball questions asking them to clarify their meaning and provide some wolf games before backing off. The only person you have really turned up the aggression against is me... but I am not someone who is easily ruffled or pressured into cracking, and furthermore, I have applied the "prickly grumpy Boomer" tell enough times in the past that if you were faking it, I would be the one you would be performing for the most intensely.

I have been waiting for you to use the "I have done nothing townie" line; Porscha gave you an opportunity, and you didn't take it. I stonewalled you with posts like the "morale" joke, and "I agree", to frustrate you and see if you would push elsewhere and demonstrate that town tell. You haven't, except for a brief foray onto Porscha; you've mostly stayed tunnelled on me.

I was waiting for you to do something I can confidently read before saying anything, hence: "I have no read on you". If you put a gun to my head and asked me to name you either town or mafia, I would say I am leaning towards mafia, because the way you have targeted specifically me with your aggression, persisting despite a stonewall, feels targeted to pocket me through the meta that you know I read you on. But I am uncertain of this.

That's how I feel about you.

Can I vote you again?

[Seanzie]

Alison is a wolf and we need to kill her today.

[Alison]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

OoO, fun!

explain.

Your earlier post did not contain anything which sorted my alignment one way or the other, so why are you voting me here? Be specific please.w

[Alison]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

OoO, fun!

explain.

Your earlier post did not contain anything which sorted my alignment one way or the other, so why are you voting me here? Be specific please.w

I wrote a townie post and you doubled down on your wolfread.

[Seanzie]

@Porscha I'm curious if you're willing to commit to voting one of me or Alison.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

OoO, fun!

explain.

Your earlier post did not contain anything which sorted my alignment one way or the other, so why are you voting me here? Be specific please.w

I wrote a townie post and you doubled down on your wolfread.

Please quote what you think is a "townie post".

[Alison]

Alison is a wolf and we need to kill her today.

Why?

I know you well enough to know that you know me well enough that you'd have a read on me if you were town. You can claim you're busy, and I believe that you're busy, but regardless of your business, you're just a wolf. Sorry about your rand.

Why would me knowing you well mean that I would definitely have a read on you as town?

Why indeed. You tell me.

In particular, what is your read one me right now? please don't say "I don't have one", but please tell me exactly what you think of me and my alignment

Here are my full thoughts on you.

I have three tells that I am confident are good at determining your alignment before flips happen. The first is that you are appease-y and try to avoid causing offense as wolf. The second tell is that you are a "grumpy Boomer" (not my words) as town, making hostile and somtimes contrarian remarks to fish reactions out of people or apply pressure. The third tell is a specific line that I have seen you use repeatedly as town and only town, which is when you turn up the pressure on someone to try to get them to attempt to pocket you by reading you town, only to challenge them on why they are reading you town, invoking the line "I have done nothing townie" or similar.

You are not appease-y this game, but neither are you as prickly as I expect you to be. For instance, when you briefly voted and questioned Porscha, you let them off with fairly softball questions asking them to clarify their meaning and provide some wolf games before backing off. The only person you have really turned up the aggression against is me... but I am not someone who is easily ruffled or pressured into cracking, and furthermore, I have applied the "prickly grumpy Boomer" tell enough times in the past that if you were faking it, I would be the one you would be performing for the most intensely.

I have been waiting for you to use the "I have done nothing townie" line; Porscha gave you an opportunity, and you didn't take it. I stonewalled you with posts like the "morale" joke, and "I agree", to frustrate you and see if you would push elsewhere and demonstrate that town tell. You haven't, except for a brief foray onto Porscha; you've mostly stayed tunnelled on me.

I was waiting for you to do something I can confidently read before saying anything, hence: "I have no read on you". If you put a gun to my head and asked me to name you either town or mafia, I would say I am leaning towards mafia, because the way you have targeted specifically me with your aggression, persisting despite a stonewall, feels targeted to pocket me through the meta that you know I read you on. But I am uncertain of this.

That's how I feel about you.

This one.

[Seanzie]

Alison is a wolf and we need to kill her today.

Why?

I know you well enough to know that you know me well enough that you'd have a read on me if you were town. You can claim you're busy, and I believe that you're busy, but regardless of your business, you're just a wolf. Sorry about your rand.

Why would me knowing you well mean that I would definitely have a read on you as town?

Why indeed. You tell me.

In particular, what is your read one me right now? please don't say "I don't have one", but please tell me exactly what you think of me and my alignment

Here are my full thoughts on you.

I have three tells that I am confident are good at determining your alignment before flips happen. The first is that you are appease-y and try to avoid causing offense as wolf. The second tell is that you are a "grumpy Boomer" (not my words) as town, making hostile and somtimes contrarian remarks to fish reactions out of people or apply pressure. The third tell is a specific line that I have seen you use repeatedly as town and only town, which is when you turn up the pressure on someone to try to get them to attempt to pocket you by reading you town, only to challenge them on why they are reading you town, invoking the line "I have done nothing townie" or similar.

You are not appease-y this game, but neither are you as prickly as I expect you to be. For instance, when you briefly voted and questioned Porscha, you let them off with fairly softball questions asking them to clarify their meaning and provide some wolf games before backing off. The only person you have really turned up the aggression against is me... but I am not someone who is easily ruffled or pressured into cracking, and furthermore, I have applied the "prickly grumpy Boomer" tell enough times in the past that if you were faking it, I would be the one you would be performing for the most intensely.

I have been waiting for you to use the "I have done nothing townie" line; Porscha gave you an opportunity, and you didn't take it. I stonewalled you with posts like the "morale" joke, and "I agree", to frustrate you and see if you would push elsewhere and demonstrate that town tell. You haven't, except for a brief foray onto Porscha; you've mostly stayed tunnelled on me.

I was waiting for you to do something I can confidently read before saying anything, hence: "I have no read on you". If you put a gun to my head and asked me to name you either town or mafia, I would say I am leaning towards mafia, because the way you have targeted specifically me with your aggression, persisting despite a stonewall, feels targeted to pocket me through the meta that you know I read you on. But I am uncertain of this.

That's how I feel about you.

This one.