The Syndicate

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:08 pm**

(I'm the 4th vote on speedy if that helps for future clarification.)

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:11 pm**

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:00 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:00 pm
indiglo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:47 pm [VOTE: Jinrou] aubergine

I believe LC
I believe him too. Why Jinrou?
Asked for people to ISO then didn't do anything with it. Just playing like someone who swapped into a scum slot. Logic/Jinrou are a stark contrast.
How do Logic and Jinrou usually play?

look up games by zarathustra on mafiauniverse or alternatively zexism on mmochampion or prada on opbforums

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:13 pm**

Jinrou wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:11 pm
look up games by zarathustra on mafiauniverse or alternatively zexism on mmochampion or prada on opbforums

Thanks, I'll take a look mostly on MU.

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:14 pm**

Logic's most recent games:

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:26 pm**

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:00 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:00 pm
indiglo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:47 pm [VOTE: Jinrou] aubergine

I believe LC
I believe him too. Why Jinrou?
Asked for people to ISO then didn't do anything with it. Just playing like someone who swapped into a scum slot. Logic/Jinrou are a stark contrast.
How do Logic and Jinrou usually play?

No idea

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:31 pm**

It's kind of weird seeing which PerC players took a liking to MU. It looks like Logic has played with both The Lawyer and Garden Gnome. I'm still reading.

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:33 pm**

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:31 pm It's kind of weird seeing which PerC players took a liking to MU. It looks like Logic has played with both The Lawyer and Garden Gnome. I'm still reading.

i mean perc kinda died after parrot went insane didn't it?

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:35 pm**

MU is great because of the tools. MU is to The Syndicate what the state of the art UFC gym is to doing a training camp in Thailand surrounded by Lumpinee Stadium champions.

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:39 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:35 pm MU is great because of the tools. MU is to The Syndicate what the state of the art UFC gym is to doing a training camp in Thailand surrounded by Lumpinee Stadium champions.

now they just need to figure out how to play mafia

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:45 pm**

Jinrou wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:33 pm
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:31 pm It's kind of weird seeing which PerC players took a liking to MU. It looks like Logic has played with both The Lawyer and Garden Gnome. I'm still reading.
i mean perc kinda died after parrot went insane didn't it?

PerC is still going. My generation is pretty much gone. I miss them.

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:54 pm**

Jinrou wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:24 pm Ok since I am just gonna echo some stuff

I think Owner is town and it's pretty natural that they are being awkwardly scummy. I haven't played with them (or maybe once), but I remember Owner had a pretty high lynch rate as town as well. Mix that in with Owner's own posting style (which can be seen as awkwardly wolfy as well)

Now the actual wolf

Could Epignosis fwiw

Could not Epignosis gtfo

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:55 pm**

Guys don't vote speed chuck, I am quite sure he is civ.

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:58 pm**

Jinrou CFD?

SORRY, at a party, phone playing first time ever.

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:59 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:55 pm Guys don't vote speed chuck, I am quite sure he is civ.

Well, both yourself and speedy are voting for me. Do you have any other suspects?

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:00 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:55 pm Guys don't vote speed chuck, I am quite sure he is civ.

Y tho

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:03 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:55 pm Guys don't vote speed chuck, I am quite sure he is civ.

Would you like to cite your sources? Or are we just supposed to take your word on it?

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:05 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:55 pm Guys don't vote speed chuck, I am quite sure he is civ.

Also, who is your alternative?
and
What has changed your mind from yesterday?

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:05 pm**

Long Con make your soft claim a hard claim or die

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:06 pm**

Oh no Speedchuck

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:09 pm**

Jinrou wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:44 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:44 pm There is no effort whatsoever in Owner's accusation of me to discern whether or not I'm a civilian. It's a fill-in-the-blank suspicion that invites others to answer without Owner ever stating a grievance. It's empty. It's evil.
And going through your iso your biggest effort was judging Indiglo based upon their relationship with people outside of the thread

And well this little mess where you use a bunch of empty statements to describe owner's vote on you as directly malevolent without asking for a reason first.

In here all I see is saying words that have big meanings, but with no substance behind them. Could you describe why scum!owner would do that? What is the motivation behind?

I have to ask for a reason someone votes for me? The words I'm using have big meanings?

Jinrou wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:45 pm The Epi iso is filled with so much fluff it's a wonder he's even here

He used a lot of nai activites as excuse, but he did in fact post a lot and when he did it, it was 90% of the time worthless

So the argument that it's exam time falls flat when you find time to shitpost in thread

It's not an argument, and it doesn't fall flat.

It's, "I'm tired as hell, having a drink, and chatting with people in the few moments I have in order to have a good time before I have to fuck off and do it all over again."

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:10 pm**

shit sorry

I was watching Us

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:13 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:55 pm Guys don't vote speed chuck, I am quite sure he is civ.

Thanks for the memo.

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:14 pm**

Oh the day ended. What a strange strange day.

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:14 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:05 pm Long Con make your soft claim a hard claim or die

LC might be alright.

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:20 pm**

Well certainly isn't dying today

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:36 pm**

Day 3

The very small elephant was cornered.

“That’s the one who bit off that fox’s face!”

“Putooo!” tooted the tiny elephant.

“Stop resisting!” a full sized rhino officer shouted, body slamming the elephant.

“He’s got a gun!” a hippo officer lied. He tased the elephant several times.

“I fear for my life!” said a wolf officer, who proceeded to unload his shotgun into the already dead elephant.

The officers sprinkled some crack on the corpse, destroyed their body cams and shot a nearby dog for good measure.

But you see, the elephant, who turned out to be a fox in elephant pjs, really had killed Nick so in a way, the officers were justified.

This mixed message brought to you by the Disney Corporation.

Speedchuck has been lynched. He was Finnick (Town, Predator)

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:49 pm**

bye guys

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:07 pm**

I'm calling this my fault. Sorry folks.

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:16 pm**

In hindsight, I feel like I should have known better. There wasn't any big drama at the end of the day in terms of moving votes around. If Long Con had been here and explained a bit more, maybe we would have landed somewhere else. I don't know.

The bit epi brought up about speedy picking up that I hadn't interacted with Soneji were both fair points. One being epi noticed more people than just myself hadn't interacted with Soneji. And two Speedy being diligent and analyzing possible ties to Soneji.

Epi is still fillery. Yeah, he did generate a little content, but I should have not switched my vote so easily.

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:26 pm**

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:16 pm In hindsight, I feel like I should have known better. There wasn't any big drama at the end of the day in terms of moving votes around. If Long Con had been here and explained a bit more, maybe we would have landed somewhere else. I don't know.

The bit epi brought up about speedy picking up that I hadn't interacted with Soneji were both fair points. One being epi noticed more people than just myself hadn't interacted with Soneji. And two Speedy being diligent and analyzing possible ties to Soneji.

Epi is still fillery. Yeah, he did generate a little content, but I should have not switched my vote so easily.

Spoiler: show
*is annoyed* *doesn't like being wrong*

Then you won't like lynching me.

Posted: **Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:30 pm**

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:16 pm In hindsight, I feel like I should have known better. There wasn't any big drama at the end of the day in terms of moving votes around. If Long Con had been here and explained a bit more, maybe we would have landed somewhere else. I don't know.

The bit epi brought up about speedy picking up that I hadn't interacted with Soneji were both fair points. One being epi noticed more people than just myself hadn't interacted with Soneji. And two Speedy being diligent and analyzing possible ties to Soneji.

Epi is still fillery. Yeah, he did generate a little content, but I should have not switched my vote so easily.

Spoiler: show
*is annoyed* *doesn't like being wrong*

Take responsibility for your own vote. Don't buy into buyer's remorse.

speedchuck being good doesn't mean you would have been right voting for me

Posted: **Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:27 am**

Hay, I tried to generate a CFD On Jinrou, but nobody bit. I bought LC's statement. Did anyone else?

This night phase we (imo) need to think seriously about who we trust. Make a serious civ/town circle.

Who looks bad after this lynch? Is Dizzy deep wolfing? What about Bob? What about Mac? Once I get back home and off my phone I'll try to post more.

Posted: **Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:29 am**

Is Owner too wolfy to be a wolf?

Posted: **Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:11 am**

Ok, I'm home on the computer. Indulge me for a minute and allow me to completely let go of paranoia for just momentarily. I'm looking at the player list. And if I go ahead and let myself fully trust even those people I don't 100% trust, I'm curious what my suspect pool will look like. Anyone who has given me a town ping at some point in the game I'm counting as town in this PoE exercise.

coloniabob
jinrou

That's who I'm left with. Who are YOU left with, if you do your own GTH reads, and don't allow yourself to have ANY nulls at all? What does your PoE look like? In your gut, or in your heart, or whatever organ you mafia with. (Ye perverts!)

This is before I've done another read-through or vote analysis, it's just my general sense of who feels town to me this game.

Posted: **Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:12 am**

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:11 am Ok, I'm home on the computer. Indulge me for a minute and allow me to completely let go of paranoia for just momentarily. I'm looking at the player list. And if I go ahead and let myself fully trust even those people I don't 100% trust, I'm curious what my suspect pool will look like. Anyone who has given me a town ping at some point in the game I'm counting as town in this PoE exercise.

coloniabob
jinrou

That's who I'm left with. Who are YOU left with, if you do your own GTH reads, and don't allow yourself to have ANY nulls at all? What does your PoE look like? In your gut, or in your heart, or whatever organ you mafia with. (Ye perverts!)

This is before I've done another read-through or vote analysis, it's just my general sense of who feels town to me this game.

Grammar win!

Posted: **Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:23 am**

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:11 am Ok, I'm home on the computer. Indulge me for a minute and allow me to completely let go of paranoia for just momentarily. I'm looking at the player list. And if I go ahead and let myself fully trust even those people I don't 100% trust, I'm curious what my suspect pool will look like. Anyone who has given me a town ping at some point in the game I'm counting as town in this PoE exercise.

coloniabob
jinrou

That's who I'm left with. Who are YOU left with, if you do your own GTH reads, and don't allow yourself to have ANY nulls at all? What does your PoE look like? In your gut, or in your heart, or whatever organ you mafia with. (Ye perverts!)

This is before I've done another read-through or vote analysis, it's just my general sense of who feels town to me this game.

Welcome to my brain 12 hours ago

Posted: **Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:18 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:23 am
Welcome to my brain 12 hours ago

Smells like finger farts in here.

Posted: **Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:56 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:09 pm
Jinrou wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:44 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:44 pm There is no effort whatsoever in Owner's accusation of me to discern whether or not I'm a civilian. It's a fill-in-the-blank suspicion that invites others to answer without Owner ever stating a grievance. It's empty. It's evil.
And going through your iso your biggest effort was judging Indiglo based upon their relationship with people outside of the thread

And well this little mess where you use a bunch of empty statements to describe owner's vote on you as directly malevolent without asking for a reason first.

In here all I see is saying words that have big meanings, but with no substance behind them. Could you describe why scum!owner would do that? What is the motivation behind?
I have to ask for a reason someone votes for me? The words I'm using have big meanings?

Jinrou wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:45 pm The Epi iso is filled with so much fluff it's a wonder he's even here

He used a lot of nai activites as excuse, but he did in fact post a lot and when he did it, it was 90% of the time worthless

So the argument that it's exam time falls flat when you find time to shitpost in thread
It's not an argument, and it doesn't fall flat.

It's, "I'm tired as hell, having a drink, and chatting with people in the few moments I have in order to have a good time before I have to fuck off and do it all over again."

Yes you do in fact. If you just sort people based on voting you, it's a straight omgus. Regardless even if someone votes you, you should be able to sort their intention behind their vote by their reasoning.

Big meanings as in empty and evil. Evil is a big word as it as you directly attach the scum agenda to owner there with it.

Then I am sorry for you, but nothing of that makes you appear as town. In fact it's empty. It's evil.

Why? Because you play directly anti town that way

Posted: **Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:14 pm**

Hello.

I'm Epignosis.

Posted: **Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:42 pm**

Night 4

The hippo returned to the station. He had not managed to find the missing mammals but tomorrow was a new day.

“You are one hot dancer. Benjamin. Clawhauser,” someone said.

Where was Clawhauser anyway? He was normally at the front desk.

Wherever Clawhauser had gone, he wasn’t the only member of the Zootopia PD that went missing. Higgins never came home either. That mystery was short lived.

In the morning, Higgins was found, apparently mauled to death by a savage predator.

MacDougall has been nightkilled. He was Officer Higgins (Town, Prey)

Posted: **Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:14 pm**

Excellent. Mac trusted LC, and I expected LC to be the one to go down.

Posted: **Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:17 pm**

I suspect Jinrou. While getting a lecture from a newcomer on how to play mafia is good fun, what I expect mafia to do is find a suspect they can hold on to, never actually lynch, and have a safe place to land a vote. If Jinrou genuinely suspects me, then I have some questions:

1) How do you expect to get me lynched by yourself? What will you do to convince others to have me gone?

2) If you happen to prove successful in removing me, what will you do then in the aftermath of my civility?

Posted: **Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:17 pm**

I probably have a lot to say later.

Posted: **Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:25 pm**

Ill need to get my thoughts in order, however.

Posted: **Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:44 pm**

RIP Mac. Sorry I wasn't around enough this weekend, animal friends.

Posted: **Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:10 pm**

Crap Mac.

While it makes me feel good that our minds are (or were) in the same place, I am currently at a confused intersection.

Posted: **Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:14 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:14 pm Excellent. Mac trusted LC, and I expected LC to be the one to go down.

I'm spit balling here, indulge me.

With a role like Officer Higgins, would one perhaps expect Mac to have been an alignment cop, or something similar?

If yes, and remembering that the host said we would not be alerted if/when our targets were changed... should an alignment cop trust the results they get from the host upon checking the alignment of another player? Therefore should the rest of us trust the reads of a possible alignment cop? How should we handle such a possibility? Or should we just chuck it to the bastard winds?

Posted: **Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:15 pm**

Or is this kind of talk considered angle-shooting and cheap?

Posted: **Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:20 pm**

I don't read into any of that, but I don't fault anyone else for doing so.

Posted: **Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:20 pm**

I have down LC, Dys, and indiglo as civilians.

Does anyone wish to argue with me on that?

The Syndicate

Zootopia Mafia [Game Over]

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