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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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Mizery wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:14 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:13 pm I think all of the mafia are within (this is not a POE):

Dyson
Lomo
Mizery
Nanook
MacDougall
isn't this

by definition

a POE
No, a POE assumes that I have everyone else as near-lock town. Hence, the finality of "Elimination".
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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Motel and Falcon are not teamed. this is based off of one interaction so obviously one of my best reads
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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PoE by definition assumes that mafia could not possibly exist outside of it. Otheriwse you might as well just call it "reads".
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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My PoE is the entire game minus JJJ and Dunya
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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I don't like anyone who townreads TSP so if someone wanted to tell me why I should townread TSP i would love that
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Falcon is nearly out of the PoE too..
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:17 pm My PoE is the entire game minus JJJ and Dunya
do you have any tinfoil for either?
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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lomo
Mizery
Dyson

This is my list of optimal chops.
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:19 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:17 pm My PoE is the entire game minus JJJ and Dunya
do you have any tinfoil for either?
No
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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MacDougall wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:50 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:48 am Town role guy should give a role to someone in upper POE/lower town. This should be decided on by the town and announced in the thread
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Yes announcing who i give the pr roles to in the thread is a great idea. If you are mafia. You're banned from commenting further on this subject.
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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Ok, that does it for my AMA today, let's chop Dyson since we already have 1 vote frozen on him.
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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If JJJ Dyson Nanook and Axe can all agree on a chop target I will 100% back
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:17 pm My PoE is the entire game minus JJJ and Dunya
Yah if they're mafia we probably always lose tbh, that's the correct play
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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Is falcon a super serious player I suppose I wanna ask that
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:22 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:17 pm My PoE is the entire game minus JJJ and Dunya
Yah if they're mafia we probably always lose tbh, that's the correct play
Game was already won or lost, we're just going through the motions.
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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We probably should kill lomo i suppose

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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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As people are now reaching the post cap, I am revealing the consequence of going over: If you continue posting after reaching your limit, your vote is nullified. So, y'know, don't. Thanks. Bonk.
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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Alright, I'm going to vote [VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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I better start posting more, I only have an hour to nullify my vote
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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Ha, it worked! My first vote!
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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Votes an hour before EOD
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No votes
Voters: None
Master Radishes
0
No votes
Voters: None
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0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
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No votes
Voters: None
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falcon45ca
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Voters: tutuu, motel room
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Voters: Master Radishes, JaggedJimmyJay, dunya
motel room
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No votes
Voters: None
tutuu
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No votes
Voters: None
Dyson sphere
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Voters: NotAnAxehole, falcon45ca, Scotty
Mizery
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Voters: None
MacDougall
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Voters: None
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No votes
Voters: None
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Voters: Syn, EnderWiggin, juliets, fingersplints
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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Tomorrow I'm going to vote dunya
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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Dyson sphere wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:01 pm Tomorrow I'm going to vote dunya
Today I'm going to vote you

[VOTE: dyson] aubergine
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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Jk

[VOTE: jay] aubergine
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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[VOTE: dyson ] aubergine
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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@lost monkey You going to vote last second?
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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[VOTE: dyson] aubergine along with the crowd
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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smh don’t vote jay
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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@whoeber is the gift giver give gift to Nanook please
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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[VOTE: scotty ] aubergine
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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Mac's vote is still here, uncalled, essentially at the deadline. If the deadline passes and that's still the case, he's an abject mafia read. I don't care what came before, and I don't care when his bedtime is. That is terrible in every sense of the word, and I cannot fathom an appropriate explanation for it. I could easily be the Day 1 elimination right now, and that vote is essential for making it so. He has no excuse.

Nanook should know better. Whatever his read on me, in the past he has been inclined to wait with me so that either my alignment becomes clearer to him or I just get night killed. His vote is suboptimal, and in a way that he is normally attentive to. Bad look.

Dyson's suspicion of me looked okay once he explained it. I would still call him POE-caliber, and if he ends up the chop so be it. I would prefer Scotty right now.

I think NAA is town. Move Mac into the POE to compensate. I don't think I have room for Nanook, which means the POE is just going to have to be bigger than it's supposed to be. That's not a terribly surprising development, and it's primarily because of the following:

Town is playing this game very poorly. Just straight up -- it has been a brutal display. It doesn't even matter who is town and who isn't: nearly any iteration of this roster as it currently stands has not been playing a strong town game. There is next to zero cohesion. People are off in their own little worlds playing I Will Take My Ball And Go Solve By Myself. Communication is stunted and shallow. This is a loss waiting to happen if the direction doesn't improve sharply on Day 2. So long as I am the game's newest participant and one of its possible chops, I am not the best person to be taking on that mantle. If I die today I literally can't anyway.

This needn't dishearten any of you or demoralize. It's a harsh assessment, but awareness breeds change. Let's be better gang. Work as a team, or at least try. Use your post allotment. Be friendly without being sarcastic or an arse. Communicate. If I am around I pledge to try my best at doing my part. I acknowledge that I didn't use my own 50 posts as well as I could have: I wasted a few and didn't play with a ton of energy.

If today is a mafia flip, then this assessment can be softened. Well done. It won't be if it's me. If it's a town flip, look inward even if you didn't vote for it. Here's a parting POE pool:

Nanook
RondoDimBuckle
Dyson sphere
MacDougall
tutuu
lost monkey
falcon45ca
Scotty


The names are not ordered. It's one more name than it needs to be, even if one of them is about to be chopped. If I absolutely must drop one, make it tutuu. All of them need to be assessed with diligence, as do the people I didn't list. The game feels bad enough that I don't entirely trust the POE approach itself. It's less difficult than it should be to clear the bar, because the bar is too low.

I'm leaving my vote on Scotty.
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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@TonyStarkPrime If you want to join the majority come join me on Scotty
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:45 pm Mac's vote is still here, uncalled, essentially at the deadline. If the deadline passes and that's still the case, he's an abject mafia read. I don't care what came before, and I don't care when his bedtime is. That is terrible in every sense of the word, and I cannot fathom an appropriate explanation for it. I could easily be the Day 1 elimination right now, and that vote is essential for making it so. He has no excuse.

Nanook should know better. Whatever his read on me, in the past he has been inclined to wait with me so that either my alignment becomes clearer to him or I just get night killed. His vote is suboptimal, and in a way that he is normally attentive to. Bad look.

Dyson's suspicion of me looked okay once he explained it. I would still call him POE-caliber, and if he ends up the chop so be it. I would prefer Scotty right now.

I think NAA is town. Move Mac into the POE to compensate. I don't think I have room for Nanook, which means the POE is just going to have to be bigger than it's supposed to be. That's not a terribly surprising development, and it's primarily because of the following:

Town is playing this game very poorly. Just straight up -- it has been a brutal display. It doesn't even matter who is town and who isn't: nearly any iteration of this roster as it currently stands has not been playing a strong town game. There is next to zero cohesion. People are off in their own little worlds playing I Will Take My Ball And Go Solve By Myself. Communication is stunted and shallow. This is a loss waiting to happen if the direction doesn't improve sharply on Day 2. So long as I am the game's newest participant and one of its possible chops, I am not the best person to be taking on that mantle. If I die today I literally can't anyway.

This needn't dishearten any of you or demoralize. It's a harsh assessment, but awareness breeds change. Let's be better gang. Work as a team, or at least try. Use your post allotment. Be friendly without being sarcastic or an arse. Communicate. If I am around I pledge to try my best at doing my part. I acknowledge that I didn't use my own 50 posts as well as I could have: I wasted a few and didn't play with a ton of energy.

If today is a mafia flip, then this assessment can be softened. Well done. It won't be if it's me. If it's a town flip, look inward even if you didn't vote for it. Here's a parting POE pool:

Nanook
RondoDimBuckle
Dyson sphere
MacDougall
tutuu
lost monkey
falcon45ca
Scotty


The names are not ordered. It's one more name than it needs to be, even if one of them is about to be chopped. If I absolutely must drop one, make it tutuu. All of them need to be assessed with diligence, as do the people I didn't list. The game feels bad enough that I don't entirely trust the POE approach itself. It's less difficult than it should be to clear the bar, because the bar is too low.

I'm leaving my vote on Scotty.
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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I dont think your doom and gloom or your (by your standards) scathing condemnation of play today is very warranted tbh
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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Post by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME »

Like to be clear i normally give you space to self resolve because I'm not particularly good at reading you early and you tend to self resolve by n2

But thats in games you start in

If you'd subbed into a null slot I'd likely be giving you that treatment. But you didn't, you subbed into a slot I think is mafia. I'm not going to abandon that just cause oh now you're here so I'm not allowed to vote Jay d1, thats dumb
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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Just in case I die in the night my legacy is: good luck have fun town dont take any of my reads too seriously
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 1)

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@Scotty was bonked. He was a Guilty Discord Member.

N1 will last for 24 hours. Please have night actions submitted to me within the next 23 hours, please.





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dunya
No votes

Master Radishes
No votes

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
No votes

TonyStarkPrime
No votes

Lime Coke / JaggedJimmyJay
3
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, MacDougall, Dyson sphere

lost monkey
No votes

RondoDimBuckle
No votes

falcon45ca
3
Voters: Mizery, tutuu, motel room

Scotty
4
Voters: RondoDimBuckle, Master Radishes, JaggedJimmyJay, dunya


motel room
No votes

NotAnAxehole
No votes

tutuu
No votes

Dyson sphere
4
Voters: NotAnAxehole, TonyStarkPrime, falcon45ca, Scotty

Mizery
No votes

MacDougall
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Night 1)

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Posts counts as of EOD D1

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dunya 89
Dyson sphere 31
falcon45ca 100
JaggedJimmyJay 50
lost monkey 6
MacDougall 99
Master Radishes 74
Mizery 60
motel room 36
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 69
NotAnAxehole 32
RondoDimBuckle 78
TonyStarkPrime 33
tutuu 100


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dunya 189
Dyson sphere 131
falcon45ca 200
JaggedJimmyJay 150
lost monkey 106
MacDougall 199
Master Radishes 174
Mizery 160
motel room 136
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 169
NotAnAxehole 132
RondoDimBuckle 178
TonyStarkPrime 133
tutuu 200
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Night 1)

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@dyachei is replacing @dunya.

@Alison is replacing @lost monkey.

New available post counts for D2:


Alison 100
dyachei 100
Dyson sphere 131
falcon45ca 200
JaggedJimmyJay 150
MacDougall 199
Master Radishes 174
Mizery 160
motel room 136
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 169
NotAnAxehole 132
RondoDimBuckle 178
TonyStarkPrime 133
tutuu 200
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 2)

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@dyachei was done diddily killed. They were an Innocent Discord Member.

D2 has begun. You have 48 hours to decide the next bonk.



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@Master Radishes
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@TonyStarkPrime
@JaggedJimmyJay
@RondoDimBuckle
@falcon45ca
@motel room
@NotAnAxehole
@tutuu
@Dyson sphere
@Mizery
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 2)

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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 2)

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hihi

will write more stuff later

i think the last 2 mafia are falcon and lost monkey

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

gratz on the peeps who voted scotty. mans had me pocketed. did yall iso him? half of his posts are suckin up to me. this is why u can't trust men. all men are liars...
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 2)

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That is the absolute lamest possible kill. Come on.
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 2)

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:04 pm That is the absolute lamest possible kill. Come on.
they just trynna win allow it fam ;-;
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 2)

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tutuu wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:59 pm hihi

will write more stuff later

i think the last 2 mafia are falcon and lost monkey

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

gratz on the peeps who voted scotty. mans had me pocketed. did yall iso him? half of his posts are suckin up to me. this is why u can't trust men. all men are liars...
It’s not falcon
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 2)

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And lomo is Alison now so
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 2)

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:08 pm
tutuu wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:59 pm hihi

will write more stuff later

i think the last 2 mafia are falcon and lost monkey

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

gratz on the peeps who voted scotty. mans had me pocketed. did yall iso him? half of his posts are suckin up to me. this is why u can't trust men. all men are liars...
It’s not falcon
did u catch him softing PR or what breh ion get it
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 2)

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:08 pm And lomo is Alison now so
so wat

i think the wolves were powerless / afk during eod1 to let a wolf get chopped with 4 votes

so simplest explanation that its falcon who post capped himself and couldnt move/talk and monkey who was afk

lemme quote he stuff from scotty's iso i thought were w/w
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Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 2)

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Interactions of Scotty and Nanook

From Scotty

Scotty did not mention Nanook a single time in the game.

From Nanook

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:39 pm Tsp 78.6
Scotty 82

Not a confident read but he seems to be not partnered with a few different people so thats enough to bump him over rand

This appears to be Nanook's only mention of Scotty. By the numbers this functions as the slightest of town reads, based upon perceived lack of partners. I shrug.

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Conclusion

I have no reason to remove Nanook from the POE pool. He can be Scotty's teammate.
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