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Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:38 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 10:27 pm Update

FG - Sus -1
Hyena - Sus +1
Nanook - Cleared
Johann - Cleared
Nutella - Sus
Jack - Cleared
G-man - Sus
Am I cleared cleared or cleared like we’ll lynch Hyena at lylo instead of the player we all suspect and lose in order to clear me again cleared?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:41 pm
by Duskfall
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 12:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 10:27 pm Update

FG - Sus -1
Hyena - Sus +1
Nanook - Cleared
Johann - Cleared
Nutella - Sus
Jack - Cleared
G-man - Sus
Am I cleared cleared or cleared like we’ll lynch Hyena at lylo instead of the player we all suspect and lose in order to clear me again cleared?
What does killing hyena in lylo have to do with your alignment at all?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:45 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
C’mon guys not a single ping how am I supposed to feel like a HIGH IMPACT PLAYER when nobody is pinging me, wtf

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:46 pm
by Duskfall
[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention]

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:57 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Thank you now I feel IMPORTANT and HIGH IMPACT and NEEDED.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 2:04 pm
by Johann
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 10:22 pm @boo @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Duskfall @Johann

Give me names of you never want me to kill and who you want me to kill? Just one name for each please.
Never - You
Shoot - Hyena

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 2:05 pm
by Johann
Was busy today, mom has bday tomorrow and i had to make a cake and other stuff

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 2:23 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I kinda don’t see nutella as bad here tbh. Like it’s not a hard town read but I’m not getting the pings from her I have in the past 🤷‍♀️

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 2:24 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Duskfall wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 12:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 12:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 10:27 pm Update

FG - Sus -1
Hyena - Sus +1
Nanook - Cleared
Johann - Cleared
Nutella - Sus
Jack - Cleared
G-man - Sus
Am I cleared cleared or cleared like we’ll lynch Hyena at lylo instead of the player we all suspect and lose in order to clear me again cleared?
What does killing hyena in lylo have to do with your alignment at all?
Ultimately nothing. It’s a reference to COVID-19 mafia.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 2:31 pm
by DrWilgy
Johann wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 2:05 pm Was busy today, mom has bday tomorrow and i had to make a cake and other stuff
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 2:39 pm
by Johann
DrWilgy wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 2:31 pm
Johann wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 2:05 pm Was busy today, mom has bday tomorrow and i had to make a cake and other stuff
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about.
I am re-reading. I do apologize for having real life stuff to do and not devote my entire day to mafia

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 2:49 pm
by DrWilgy
Johann wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 2:39 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 2:31 pm
Johann wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 2:05 pm Was busy today, mom has bday tomorrow and i had to make a cake and other stuff
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about.
I am re-reading. I do apologize for having real life stuff to do and not devote my entire day to mafia
Heheheheh, Johann doesn't realize they are talking to the king of getting distracted by real life mid mafia game.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 2:52 pm
by DrWilgy
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 10:33 pm FG - Sus -1 -1
Hyena - Sus +1 -1 Ugh Fuck you Hyena
Nanook - Cleared
Johann - Cleared
Nutella - Sus
Jack - Cleared
G-man - Sus
Sloonei - Sus
Nutella - Sus
Boo - Seems ok
Wilgy - Null as usual fuck you Wilgy

Lol I can't believe I have the gun this is great.
Lol, thanks Dad.

Run by me why Nanook, Johann, and Jack are clear.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 2:55 pm
by Sloonei
I think this was one of those volatile Day 1s where we mistake activity for agenda and inevitably the suspects that emerge are players who try to make things happen, whereas the actual mafia are keeping a low profile and trying to maintain the status quo.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 6:51 pm
by MacDougall
I agree. That is why I am going to shoot G-man.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 6:53 pm
by MacDougall
I kinda want to shoot Jack. Does anyone object?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 6:56 pm
by MacDougall
DrWilgy wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 2:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 10:33 pm FG - Sus -1 -1
Hyena - Sus +1 -1 Ugh Fuck you Hyena
Nanook - Cleared
Johann - Cleared
Nutella - Sus
Jack - Cleared
G-man - Sus
Sloonei - Sus
Nutella - Sus
Boo - Seems ok
Wilgy - Null as usual fuck you Wilgy

Lol I can't believe I have the gun this is great.
Lol, thanks Dad.

Run by me why Nanook, Johann, and Jack are clear.
They're not. In fact ... I'm shooting Jack.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:00 pm
by Sloonei
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 6:53 pm I kinda want to shoot Jack. Does anyone object?
I have no reason to single Jack out as a suspect. He wasn't here when I was here last night. But at least if he gets shot he can preserve his unlynchable claim some more.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:04 pm
by MacDougall
Sloonei wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:00 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 6:53 pm I kinda want to shoot Jack. Does anyone object?
I have no reason to single Jack out as a suspect. He wasn't here when I was here last night. But at least if he gets shot he can preserve his unlynchable claim some more.
I don't like that Jack is acting low key. He's also skating. He also won't get lynched if he's scum. I think he's a good shot. Maybe not the most likely to flip wolf but he's the most likely to flip wolf in a way that destroys the scum team if he is one.

Also I do think he is one. I don't believe half the shit he says. He's just applied an urgent scattery tone to the few posts he's made that makes it look authentic. He cleared Johann off being wrongtown and I never understand people that do that. Johann/Jack feel teamy to me.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:09 pm
by nutella
I think if Jack were scum he would have been here for EOD lol

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:10 pm
by nutella
Maybe not idk this unusual game format makes everything weird

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:11 pm
by nutella
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:04 pm Maybe not the most likely to flip wolf but he's the most likely to flip wolf in a way that destroys the scum team if he is one.
hmm this is... a take I guess, but not entirely sure if it's a good take since he doesn't really have much in the way of interactions that I can remember anyway

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:12 pm
by MacDougall
Hmmm

I mean. I don't think that's even close to AI. If real life beckons it doesn't matter what your role card says surely.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:12 pm
by MacDougall
nutella wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:04 pm Maybe not the most likely to flip wolf but he's the most likely to flip wolf in a way that destroys the scum team if he is one.
hmm this is... a take I guess, but not entirely sure if it's a good take since he doesn't really have much in the way of interactions that I can remember anyway
He has a lot more than other options I've been considering.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:12 pm
by nutella
nutella wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:10 pm Maybe not idk this unusual game format makes everything weird
also (im gonna be a cool kid and use lingo), ~*effen theorem*~ i guess

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:12 pm
by MacDougall
Wot

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:14 pm
by nutella
Effen theorem is a concept mu people toss around (I believe named after a player from a few years ago) that basically states that town are more likely to care at EOD and be influential during the crazy vote-changing times // scum are more likely to let EOD happen without their influence. It's a sweeping generalization and yeah also RL reasons for not being around often contribute as well

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:16 pm
by MacDougall
So basically here are my narrowed down options.

G-man - Not spicy but I think he's scum
Wilgy - Not spicy and I think he's town
Johann - Lil bit spicy and I think he's scum
Hyena - Spicy and I suspect
Dragomir - Spicy and I suspect
Jack - Flaming spice and I think he's scum

I have the shot submitted on Jack unless I have a change of heart.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:16 pm
by nutella
But again idk how much that applies in this setup since deciding who to give a gun is a lot different from lynching. Particularly in that nobody is afraid of being (or their scummates being) the lynch, because nobody will die until night.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:16 pm
by MacDougall
nutella wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:14 pm Effen theorem is a concept mu people toss around (I believe named after a player from a few years ago) that basically states that town are more likely to care at EOD and be influential during the crazy vote-changing times // scum are more likely to let EOD happen without their influence. It's a sweeping generalization and yeah also RL reasons for not being around often contribute as well
MU needs to stop coining vernacular

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:17 pm
by MacDougall
If you all bully me I'll change it is where I'm at.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:17 pm
by nutella
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:16 pm
nutella wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:14 pm Effen theorem is a concept mu people toss around (I believe named after a player from a few years ago) that basically states that town are more likely to care at EOD and be influential during the crazy vote-changing times // scum are more likely to let EOD happen without their influence. It's a sweeping generalization and yeah also RL reasons for not being around often contribute as well
MU needs to stop coining vernacular
Jay would agree with you, idk I like it because I get to feel like one of the cool kids and because sometimes certain concepts are just nice to have a name for (but it is silly to use them when a lot of people don't know the terms, I concede that lol)

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:18 pm
by nutella
I don't really remember anything from Jack and that is probably a bad sign so I'm cool with it

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:21 pm
by MacDougall
EOD madness in ordinary games is led by scum if/when there is a scum up for lynch and they feel like they can get away with it.

Personally I don't think that the scum actually had the audacity to hard hunt the gun yesterday. It's too hard for no real gain. They still have their kill and there is no guarantee the town shoots fur anyway so why bother. If they make a commitment to not bother trying to get the gun then why bother showing up at EOD.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:23 pm
by nutella
Yeah. Makes sense.

i just skimmed jack's iso and half of it is on the boring johann wrongtown topic and the other half is pure fluff. Yeah shoot the man.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:23 pm
by nutella
Assuming you're not still gonna refuse to do anything I say to do just because

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:24 pm
by MacDougall
Also tbh I've caused EOD chaos even when none of my team are close to lynched because the town always focus on EOD chaos to hunt through and want to solve counterwagons etc.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:25 pm
by MacDougall
nutella wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:23 pm Assuming you're not still gonna refuse to do anything I say to do just because
When did I do that exactly?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:25 pm
by Sloonei
nutella wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:16 pm
nutella wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:14 pm Effen theorem is a concept mu people toss around (I believe named after a player from a few years ago) that basically states that town are more likely to care at EOD and be influential during the crazy vote-changing times // scum are more likely to let EOD happen without their influence. It's a sweeping generalization and yeah also RL reasons for not being around often contribute as well
MU needs to stop coining vernacular
Jay would agree with you, idk I like it because I get to feel like one of the cool kids and because sometimes certain concepts are just nice to have a name for (but it is silly to use them when a lot of people don't know the terms, I concede that lol)
#downwithjargon

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:27 pm
by Sloonei
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:16 pm So basically here are my narrowed down options.

G-man - Not spicy but I think he's scum
Wilgy - Not spicy and I think he's town
Johann - Lil bit spicy and I think he's scum
Hyena - Spicy and I suspect
Dragomir - Spicy and I suspect
Jack - Flaming spice and I think he's scum

I have the shot submitted on Jack unless I have a change of heart.
G-man is the only firm town read I have among these options. If these are the names you're picking from, my preference would simply be "Not G."

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:28 pm
by MacDougall
Why you town reading him?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:12 pm
by Funnygurl555
damn there wasn't much to sift through.

my only objection to a jack shot is if he's town, then what? it's an inconsequential kill if he is

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:25 pm
by Duskfall
Jack is weak sauce paranoia kill, give him more time to give content

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:34 pm
by DrWilgy
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:04 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:00 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 6:53 pm I kinda want to shoot Jack. Does anyone object?
I have no reason to single Jack out as a suspect. He wasn't here when I was here last night. But at least if he gets shot he can preserve his unlynchable claim some more.
I don't like that Jack is acting low key. He's also skating. He also won't get lynched if he's scum. I think he's a good shot. Maybe not the most likely to flip wolf but he's the most likely to flip wolf in a way that destroys the scum team if he is one.

Also I do think he is one. I don't believe half the shit he says. He's just applied an urgent scattery tone to the few posts he's made that makes it look authentic. He cleared Johann off being wrongtown and I never understand people that do that. Johann/Jack feel teamy to me.
I agree with the feel of Jack, but I wouldn't think them to be w/w.

That's two of the people you had previously confirmed. Was there anything other than the above that changed that?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:39 pm
by MacDougall
DrWilgy wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 8:34 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:04 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:00 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 6:53 pm I kinda want to shoot Jack. Does anyone object?
I have no reason to single Jack out as a suspect. He wasn't here when I was here last night. But at least if he gets shot he can preserve his unlynchable claim some more.
I don't like that Jack is acting low key. He's also skating. He also won't get lynched if he's scum. I think he's a good shot. Maybe not the most likely to flip wolf but he's the most likely to flip wolf in a way that destroys the scum team if he is one.

Also I do think he is one. I don't believe half the shit he says. He's just applied an urgent scattery tone to the few posts he's made that makes it look authentic. He cleared Johann off being wrongtown and I never understand people that do that. Johann/Jack feel teamy to me.
I agree with the feel of Jack, but I wouldn't think them to be w/w.

That's two of the people you had previously confirmed. Was there anything other than the above that changed that?
I snap cleared them off tone. I had hardly read their posts. Jack always has good tone, I'd never hope to catch him from tone. Was a dumb idea to clear him from it.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:40 pm
by MacDougall
Funnygurl555 wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 8:12 pm damn there wasn't much to sift through.

my only objection to a jack shot is if he's town, then what? it's an inconsequential kill if he is
So what town kill would be consequential?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:41 pm
by Funnygurl555
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 8:40 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 8:12 pm damn there wasn't much to sift through.

my only objection to a jack shot is if he's town, then what? it's an inconsequential kill if he is
So what town kill would be consequential?
ppl who talked idk

you do you man

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:42 pm
by MacDougall
Duskfall wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 8:25 pm Jack is weak sauce paranoia kill, give him more time to give content
Alright Duskfall.

How is it a weak sauce kill? Also, how is it a paranoia kill? Also, Jack has had as much time as the rest of us to give content. Why should he be given more time, over someone else being given more time? What has Jack done to deserve a stay of execution?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:43 pm
by MacDougall
Funnygurl555 wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 8:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 8:40 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 8:12 pm damn there wasn't much to sift through.

my only objection to a jack shot is if he's town, then what? it's an inconsequential kill if he is
So what town kill would be consequential?
ppl who talked idk

you do you man
Lol don't do that. Stand by your opinion. Jack has made plenty of posts you know. He's not a low poster. He just feels like that because he's made no impact.

Which people who've talked should I kill if not Jack?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:44 pm
by MacDougall
DrWilgy wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 8:34 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:04 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:00 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 6:53 pm I kinda want to shoot Jack. Does anyone object?
I have no reason to single Jack out as a suspect. He wasn't here when I was here last night. But at least if he gets shot he can preserve his unlynchable claim some more.
I don't like that Jack is acting low key. He's also skating. He also won't get lynched if he's scum. I think he's a good shot. Maybe not the most likely to flip wolf but he's the most likely to flip wolf in a way that destroys the scum team if he is one.

Also I do think he is one. I don't believe half the shit he says. He's just applied an urgent scattery tone to the few posts he's made that makes it look authentic. He cleared Johann off being wrongtown and I never understand people that do that. Johann/Jack feel teamy to me.
I agree with the feel of Jack, but I wouldn't think them to be w/w.

That's two of the people you had previously confirmed. Was there anything other than the above that changed that?
You've got a developed enough read on Jack/Johann interactions to not consider them w/w? Tell me why.