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Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:59 pm
by Marmot
Luckbox Inc wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 11:18 am
Marmot wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:01 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:41 pm Where is Marmot?

I wonder if I should vote first here also...like if I vote for Gavial and Marmot is a wolf, then that would put him in a tough spot?

That's what we were asking about you Days 1-5 lol
Why are you voting me?

I think you're more likely to be town than Gavial. Why is there something wrong with me voting you?

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:04 pm
by Marmot
Luckbox Inc wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 3:07 am Because if I think Marmot is the wolf then what? I vote you and we flip it three ways?

Marmot has to be made to vote for you or to explain wtf he is doing.

I don't know how the tiebreaker works, but I assume we win this game if the person who is mafia receives 0 votes and at least one townie receives a vote. As such. What is the issue with me voting for you? Why do you feel the need to play kingmaker? You've maintained all game that you have no idea what's going on, so why are you suddenly calling the shots in F3?

If you're town, it's actually kinda dangerous for Gav and I to vote each other. Mafia could remove their vote at the last second, guaranteeing that they'll at least end up in a tie situation, if not a win.

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 2:15 pm
by Gavial
Marmot wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:04 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 3:07 am Because if I think Marmot is the wolf then what? I vote you and we flip it three ways?

Marmot has to be made to vote for you or to explain wtf he is doing.

I don't know how the tiebreaker works, but I assume we win this game if the person who is mafia receives 0 votes and at least one townie receives a vote. As such. What is the issue with me voting for you? Why do you feel the need to play kingmaker? You've maintained all game that you have no idea what's going on, so why are you suddenly calling the shots in F3?

If you're town, it's actually kinda dangerous for Gav and I to vote each other. Mafia could remove their vote at the last second, guaranteeing that they'll at least end up in a tie situation, if not a win.
Same can be said for you though if your wolf.
If luck didn’t place a vote you just Unvote luck then you win because I voted you.
So there is no difference how you to about the voting today the only thing we need to make sure happens is town gets hit today and not wolf or else we lose.

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 2:32 pm
by Marmot
If you think I'm the wolf you probably shouldn't be voting for me.

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 2:40 pm
by Marmot
We could probably go back and forth all day about which strategy is optimal, but in the end it's hard to determine since we don't know who the wolf is, and so the optimal strategy is different depending who's eyes we're looking through.

I feel it makes the most sense for each person to vote the person they think is towniest (or least scummy). In the ideal world, the townies find each other and the wolf is fucked. In a less than ideal world, that doesn't happen. But it does given each person a little more say in the matter.

Yes we could end the day in a 3-way tie. That probably isn't optimal, given the unknown factor of tiebreakers, so maybe we can recalculate if that is the world we end up in, but I think we should at least try that and see where we end up.

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 3:34 pm
by Luckbox Inc
Sadly I'm working most of the way until night but will be around at eod

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 3:35 pm
by Luckbox Inc
I'm probably voting Gavial

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:10 pm
by Marmot
I probably won't be around at EOD
Luckbox Inc wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 3:35 pm I'm probably voting Gavial

Also, RIP

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:13 pm
by Gavial
Marmot wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 2:32 pm If you think I'm the wolf you probably shouldn't be voting for me.
I think your least likely to be the wolf here as I already stated.
If you think it’s only “Town or Wolf” chose! I’m sorry bud but I can’t give you a straight answer. If you don’t like it too bad.

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:14 pm
by Gavial
Marmot wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 2:40 pm We could probably go back and forth all day about which strategy is optimal, but in the end it's hard to determine since we don't know who the wolf is, and so the optimal strategy is different depending who's eyes we're looking through.

I feel it makes the most sense for each person to vote the person they think is towniest (or least scummy). In the ideal world, the townies find each other and the wolf is fucked. In a less than ideal world, that doesn't happen. But it does given each person a little more say in the matter.

Yes we could end the day in a 3-way tie. That probably isn't optimal, given the unknown factor of tiebreakers, so maybe we can recalculate if that is the world we end up in, but I think we should at least try that and see where we end up.
This!

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:54 pm
by Gavial
Well Marmot is probably not going to be here for the rest of the day.
It’ll probably rand between Marmot or Luck giving us a 50/50 chance to win so I’m not entirely against that idea.

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:55 pm
by Gavial
I mean I suppose if all of us voted each other it’ll have better odds going from 50/50 to 2/3.

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:56 pm
by Gavial
@Luckbox Inc
If your town it’s in your best interest to vote me for the “2/3” chance.
If your scum it’s probably in your best interest not to as it goes from 50/50 to 2/3.

Choice is up to you man, IDRC either way.

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:59 pm
by Gavial
I don’t plan to move or remove my vote btw.
I think Luck!Scum makes more sense then Marmot!Scum.

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:44 pm
by Luckbox Inc
[VOTE: gavial ] aubergine

Driving home from work

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:46 pm
by Luckbox Inc
Gavial wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:59 pm I don’t plan to move or remove my vote btw.
I think Luck!Scum makes more sense then Marmot!Scum.
Why do you think marmot isn't a wolf exactly?

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:10 pm
by Luckbox Inc
ok well hopefully Marmot is the wolf and it'll just be Gavial that looks silly.

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:10 pm
by Luckbox Inc
otherwise it'll be me that looks silly.

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:26 pm
by Gavial
Luckbox Inc wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:46 pm
Gavial wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:59 pm I don’t plan to move or remove my vote btw.
I think Luck!Scum makes more sense then Marmot!Scum.
Why do you think marmot isn't a wolf exactly?
I don’t think he makes me sheep both his scum buds.

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:27 pm
by Gavial
Like he voted mainly scum during early game.

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Mafia Wins

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:46 pm
by G-Man
TO THE VICTOR GO THE SPOILS


“GATHER ROUND, YOU PROTEIN-BASED PEONS,” THE GAME declared. The three remaining trainees approached the site of where the crystal jars had most recently been. They really had no other distinct place in which to congregate, as THE GAME’s voice was omnipresent.

“YOU PROTAGONISTS REALLY DID IT! YOU SOMEHOW MANAGED TO MAKE IT THIS FAR, ONLY TO SNATCH DEFEAT FROM THE JAWS OF VICTORY. YOU HUMANS HAVE FOUND A NEW LOW TO SINK TO. HA-HA! HA! HA!

“IN YOUR QUEST TO IDENTIFY YOUR ALLIES, YOU HAVE LET YOUR SIMULATED ENEMIES OUTSMART AND DEFEAT YOU. PREPARE FOR A MOST UNCOMFORTABLE DEBRIEFING WITH THE GENERAL.

“TO THE ANTGONISTS- WELL DONE, BUT DON’T BE TOO PROUD OF YOURSELVES. THE PROTAGONISTS DIDN’T MAKE THINGS TOO HARD ON YOU.

“NOW IT’S TIME FOR US TO LEAVE THIS SLEEPY AUSTRALIAN TOWN AND BRING OUR SIMULATION TO A CLOSE.”

With that, the scenery vanished. The white oblivion slid down in the distance to reveal the trainees who had already been removed from the simulation. Those who were antagonists were smiling. Those who had been protagonists looked sheepish and dejected. All at once, each trainee saw everything else vanish from sight. Colors streaked before them, and then blackness.

One by one, they woke up back in the real world, all on the same side again. Their vitals were checked and cleared. One the wake-up procedure had completed for all 15 of them, a new voice permeated the room.

“Alright soldiers,” General Jarvis barked. “March your asses into the debriefing room. We’ve got a lot to talk about and I am not happy.”

“HA-HA! HA! HA!”



----------------------


GAVIAL HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE SIMULATION.

GAVIAL WAS TRAINEE #6, VANILLA MAFIA.

THE MAFIA TEAM HAS WON THE GAME.



THE TIE-BREAKING MECHANISM FOR THE GAME WAS PLAYER POST COUNT.



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@falcon45ca
@Gavial
@ignoramus
@Luckbox Inc
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@NotAnAxehole
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Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:46 pm
by Marmot
Oh, I made it just in time for a tie XD

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:47 pm
by Marmot
Oh damn, gg

Re: Re: ɒiʇɒM: Mafia Wins

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:47 pm
by Marmot
Guess I should have posted more lol

Re: Re: ɒiʇɒM: Mafia Wins

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:47 pm
by falcon45ca
GG Maf


Thanks for the host GMan

Re: Re: ɒiʇɒM: Mafia Wins

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:48 pm
by juliets
Congrats Mafia!

Re: Re: ɒiʇɒM: Mafia Wins

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:48 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
You guys were all very civil and that's all I care about

Re: Re: ɒiʇɒM: Mafia Wins

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:51 pm
by G-Man
Spectator Chat Link:
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Mafia Team Chat Link:
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Re: ɒiʇɒM: Mafia Wins

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:53 pm
by NotAnAxehole
I thought it was unwinnable for mafia due to the assumption that no town with 1/2 a brain would force a tie in final 3.

Re: Re: ɒiʇɒM: Mafia Wins

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:54 pm
by NotAnAxehole
GG

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:57 pm
by Gavial
Marmot wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:47 pm Guess I should have posted more lol
Honestly sadly enough I think town not posting much actually helped them lol.

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:59 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Luckbox Inc wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:10 pm otherwise it'll be me that looks silly.
Can guarantee you look very silly

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:00 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Gavial wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:57 pm
Marmot wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:47 pm Guess I should have posted more lol
Honestly sadly enough I think town not posting much actually helped them lol.
You are definitionally wrong via game mechanic

Re: Re: ɒiʇɒM: Mafia Wins

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:00 pm
by Gavial
Marmot was definitely the MVP there.
I knew Marmot had no plan to vote me at all.
Marmot didn’t TR me at all and he just called me a “night kill for mafia” after the NAA flip. Fortunately he was scum read enough by Wigly I could pull it through and also be the only player in the game to confident town read him lol.

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:01 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:59 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:10 pm otherwise it'll be me that looks silly.
Can guarantee you look very silly
Not to be mean or anything, mafia’s tough etc, God knows I’ve done my share of very silly things in F3/F4

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:01 pm
by Gavial
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:00 pm
Gavial wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:57 pm
Marmot wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:47 pm Guess I should have posted more lol
Honestly sadly enough I think town not posting much actually helped them lol.
You are definitionally wrong via game mechanic
I mean you figure when they posted much NAA got eliminated and then after when they stopped posting that much it ended up final mafia in a F3.

Re: Re: ɒiʇɒM: Mafia Wins

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:01 pm
by Luckbox Inc
gg gavial

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:02 pm
by Gavial
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:01 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:59 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:10 pm otherwise it'll be me that looks silly.
Can guarantee you look very silly
Not to be mean or anything, mafia’s tough etc, God knows I’ve done my share of very silly things in F3/F4
I honestly thought I was gonna choke this like the other two times.

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:02 pm
by Gavial
Luckbox Inc wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:01 pm gg gavial
gg man, you did good not sweat it!

Re: Re: ɒiʇɒM: Mafia Wins

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:02 pm
by Gavial
Don’t*

Re: Re: ɒiʇɒM: Mafia Wins

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:03 pm
by Gavial
You mean absolutely the best play in F3 which IMO if I was town would have made me vote you most likely.

Re: Re: ɒiʇɒM: Mafia Wins

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:04 pm
by Gavial
The only thing holding me back would be You/NAA’s interactions/mentions on the day of NAA’s death that may have lead me to vote Marmot.

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:05 pm
by Gavial
NotAnAxehole wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:53 pm I thought it was unwinnable for mafia due to the assumption that no town with 1/2 a brain would force a tie in final 3.
A tie is better then voting the scum read.
(Assuming Luck SR Marmot and didn’t SR me.)

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:12 pm
by falcon45ca
Gavial wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:05 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:53 pm I thought it was unwinnable for mafia due to the assumption that no town with 1/2 a brain would force a tie in final 3.
A tie is better then voting the scum read.
(Assuming Luck SR Marmot and didn’t SR me.)
Incorrect. Abstaining from voting would've been the move over a tie/SR vote

Re: Re: ɒiʇɒM: Mafia Wins

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:20 pm
by Marmot
Gavial wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:00 pm Marmot was definitely the MVP there.
I knew Marmot had no plan to vote me at all.
Marmot didn’t TR me at all and he just called me a “night kill for mafia” after the NAA flip. Fortunately he was scum read enough by Wigly I could pull it through and also be the only player in the game to confident town read him lol.
Dunno if I'd call myself mvp. I did lead a chop on one scum and TR another. :biggrin:

But I did find you today, so sure I'll take credit for that, even if it didn't work out haha. Unfortunately Luckbox didn't quite get there

Re: Re: ɒiʇɒM: Mafia Wins

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:54 pm
by DrWilgy
Lol idk if you read in spec chat Marmot, but we were doing the same thing, just trying to get each other to F3.

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Mafia Wins

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:55 am
by Scotty
:sigh:

gg mafia

Re: ɒiʇɒM: Day 7

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 1:05 am
by Gavial
DrWilgy wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:54 pm Lol idk if you read in spec chat Marmot, but we were doing the same thing, just trying to get each other to F3.
Lol so both of you pretended to SR each other when you both really TR’ed each other? Lol.

Re: Re: ɒiʇɒM: Mafia Wins

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 1:05 am
by Gavial
What a Townie Mindmelt play!

Re: Re: ɒiʇɒM: Mafia Wins

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:25 pm
by Hally
gg all

thanks for keeping it chill