Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:08 am
Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:06 pm
What are your thoughts on the rest of my reads? Also what about yours as well.
Two of your top town reads are also two of the people who've pushed me hardest, so I can't genuinely answer this with any amount of serious credibility
I absolutely cannot figure out how of all people you mindmeld with Marge the most, because their moments of coherency are sandwiched with absurd takes like vaguely suggesting they've figured out someone's sock identity and that this means the sock is town (logically bankrupt by any measure), or seeing Homer's "nah" response to participating and going "looks good" before dipping
but the above is automatically in question because of Marge's pushes... well, I'm one of them, so it's in my best interest to poke holes in her behaviour
really the thing I keep bumping up against is that it seems like half the people playing can't or won't really involve themselves
here is where Marge might have something when she said at the beginning of D2 that Syndicate wolves care. there are enough people slanking or not doing much that it's not a reliable measurement for scum leans anymore. I think Allison said this too. There's 13 of us and at least five are just not really here, which is different from D1 when the slank crowd was smaller than it is now. Lisa, Marge, Grumple, etc, have all taken their foot off the pedal (a couple have cited RL so fair enough; that's obviously far more important than a Mafia game) today so there's little info to really get from them for now
Still a day left so not a crisis yet, but it's slightly concerning that the thread's really just Otto and CBG slapping at each other, you and me throwing walls up, and then occasional interludes with Allison, Burns, or Krusty pissing in someone's cereal (this isn't a complaint, all three seem rather good at poking holes in things)
The issue with my reads is that they're all based on D1 things, and they can't evolve until the people in question are active D2. Like I scum-lean Homer... because of D1. He's posted a gif D2 and dipped again. Or I'm squinting at Marge... because of D1. She's just said wolves won't slank D2 and dipped again. Then I turn my attention to the people who are frequently posting and my opinion ranges from happy to slightly disappointed. You were low, went up. Otto's been fine. Allison... has been... annoying but fine, I think. She seems to believe in what she's saying, at least. Burns is hostile but I can't actually poke holes in what he says. Bart was decent D1 and is sidelined by RL D2, so can't move the needle on my read on him. Grumple was middle of the pack for me D1 and hasn't done anything to move from that position yet (though that could turn into a suspicious thing if it's D3 or D4 and that's still true). Krusty isn't the most active but he tends to relish being opposite of whoever he's quoting. Sometimes that's intriguing, sometimes it's weird (one minute he'll rally to someone's defense, then soon he's rubbing their nose in a mistake). He's either holding us all accountable or being noncommittal. Haven't decided yet.
And here's the obvious one... CBG is trending down. For, well, *gestures to the last page*. Otto's been taking him to task and I don't think there's anything I can really add that would be helpful or useful, except that based on D1 CBG is capable of more. What I bump up against here is that there's proof in the pudding of the aloof approach not working more than it does in this game, so if he were a wolf it'd be in his best interest to not gamble on something that's already seen to damage one's standing rather than improve. So what's the dealio, yo?
Finally: Principal Skinner. Here is where I rely on my homesite meta again... Where I come from, outed PRs tend to naturally take on a leadership role, even if they have limited actions. They're as close to a lock clear as you can get. Skinner claimed tracker and then claimed to track Otto, which seems like a "hero shot" to me. I won't comment on whether Otto was the best choice, because I don't think it really matters with the setup. What I will comment on is that, barring a counterclaim, Skinner's in one of the best positions to help coral town. As it is, his tracker claim is put in doubt by Otto and he's been a no-show since. It's actually nice that he took the time to reveal the result, but in terms of "PR takes the lead" it's... not great. His ISO is just dire. Nothing good, claimed to dodge the chop, revealed a result, and now nada. Do we believe the claim? Mechanically, to me, I think we should? He's not helping with reads but he's got another track in the barrel. Resolving Skinner can wait until D4 at least. It is a problem that will solve itself and doesn't need pressure from us. He's in my never-chop pile until it starts becoming suspicious that he's still alive. Absolute garbage ISO, but also absolutely no reason to scum-read or push.
You'll note I haven't mentioned Lisa, and that's because I don't know what I think. There's nothing really special there? She hasn't said anything especially weird on either end. The only thing I've mindmelded with is her opinion on subs and what they do to the game state, but that's a broken record at this point. I guess I can't see a strong scum or town lean either way for her. She just is. I guess she's similar to Grumple for me where there is not much to hate or love.
Sorry i had to eat
