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Re: [DAY 6] Pikmin Mafia

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Yes not remembering.
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I don't understand your point. I forgot he was the one killed in the last night post put up. And when I remembered that (sadly only after MP busted up laughing at me) I recalled why I had not weighed in on him or suspected him, and why I thought it particularly bad that he had died.
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Re: [DAY 6] Pikmin Mafia

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Spacedaisy wrote:I don't understand your point. I forgot he was the one killed in the last night post put up. And when I remembered that (sadly only after MP busted up laughing at me) I recalled why I had not weighed in on him or suspected him, and why I thought it particularly bad that he had died.
My point is I suspect you dear. You didn't suspect Boomslang but you voted me?

Please.

You are bad.
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No, I DID NOT suspect you. I have never said I suspected you. Not even once this game. But of all the people who already had votes, you were the one I was least confident of my town read on them. I wasn't going to vote on someone who had no votes, I felt very confident boomslang wasn't bad and the same about FZ, that left you.

I am not bad, and if you are civ Epi, then I recommend you look elsewhere because you don't want to lynch me. If you are bad then by all means pursue a Daisy lynch, I just hope no one is foolhardy enough to follow you.
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Epignosis wrote:
agleaminranks wrote:Maybe your memory is going, old timer :mafia:

Anyways, this is feeling weirdly personal. The notion was that I have seen Epignosis talk and play both inside and outside of Mafia and I recognize his sense of humor, and he's denying that I have any claim to that, so I'm lying and must be bad. Hrm.
My memory is just fine, young man.

It's bizarre to me that you think you have a handle on what I do when I'm bad when you have only one game's experience on that subject, and even then, I got recruited by a civilian, so had to adapt my strategies. Back on PA, I was bad- true, but it was my first online game- an MP game- and I had no idea what I was doing. Also, I have NEVER played on the Piano.

My entire point was that you do not know about what I would do when I am bad, so I found it weird that you went all personal about it, given I had to talk in jokes.

I think you are bad.
Fair enough, I wasn't really trying to make a claim about knowing how you play when you're bad, I was more originally responding to someone trying to explain to me how you go about playing in general.

Apologies for making it personal. Seems my memory is going bad.

I think you are bad for going after Boomslang, and I think you're in cahoots with Metalmarsh.
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Re: [DAY 6] Pikmin Mafia

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Typhoony wrote:I want to see people talking today.

At the moment I do not see myself voting for Epi, FZ or MM.

SD and Simon are question marks to me.
I know SD suspects Me/Simon/Agleam in that order basically. I do not know who Simon suspects and it would be lovely if he would tell us.

Agleaminrank is my main suspect.

Worth nothing that it is the first time the Snagret did not kill.

Discuss.
Well the snagret can't attempt a kill after it attempts a double kill, right? Or was that two nights ago? It's hard to navigate this on my phone.

Other possibility is that the snagret was Glorfindel, or one of the others killed in the explosion. My money was on Glorfindel being bad, so that's my thought.
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Re: [DAY 6] Pikmin Mafia

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Epignosis wrote:MM89- Why did you vote for me all this time, and then change your vote to Boomslang?
A young man named John received a parrot as a gift. Problem was, the parrot had a bad attitude and an even worse vocabulary. Every word out of the bird's mouth was rude, obnoxious, and laced with profanity. John tried and tried to change the bird's attitude by consistently saying only polite words, playing soft music and anything else he could think of to "clean up" the bird's vocabulary, but to no avail.

Finally, John was fed up and he yelled at the parrot. The parrot yelled back. John shook the parrot and the parrot got angrier and even more rude In desperation, John threw up his hands, grabbed the bird and put him in the freezer. For a few minutes the parrot squawked and kicked and screamed.

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Why did the chicken cross the road?

Because he was tired of hearing the marmot's bad jokes. :suspish:
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Re: [DAY 6] Pikmin Mafia

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:hug: @ Metalmarsh
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Re: [DAY 6] Pikmin Mafia

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RIP Wilgy. I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this revelation. I royally suck at this game. At least we didn't lynch you :P

Seriously though, once again, sorry for suspecting you. I wish you were more helpful though.


I want to bring up a thought. On the previous night, 2 people died as a result of things that look unrelated to the bosses. And then there's MP's posts:
MovingPictures07 wrote:FYI, if this game continues into Day 7, I will be extending that period to 48 hours to accommodate for Christmas.
And this, from the previous night. Notice the underlined:
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Everyone mourned the death of Dragon D. Luffy, while they were unsure how to feel about Glorfindel and kneel4justice. They held out hope that at least one of them was an evil boss. Either way, the protagonists and Pikmin were determined. They could still fight off the Pikmin haters!



It is now Day 5. You have 24 hours to lynch a boss![/size]
And this is the first night where the killer changed.


I'm wondering if it's possible that both glorfindel and K4J were baddies, and there's only one baddie left, which is why MP said "if the game continues to day 7". How likely is it that the game ends if there are two bosses left, let alone three? Assuming one was bad, we're left with 2. This means 5 against 2.

I went to look at the bosses roles and this is interesting:
Burrowing Snagret– Appearing in all three Pikmin games, this creature burrows underground, but is known for its quick attacks when prey is nearby. Normally, its vote is worth 1. If it decides to execute the bosses' nightkill, it can attempt to kill two targets instead of one, but is only successful if both targets are Pikmin. In addition, for the two day and night cycles after executing a double nightkill, its vote is worth 2, but it cannot nightkil

Burrowing Snarget can't kill the next night only if he killed 2 in the previous night. He only killed one on night 4, so why would they suddenly stop using him if he's still alive? If they could use 2 kills tonight, it would make their condition much better. I think he's dead. So if only the other two are alive, how can the game end if we lynch a civvie and they get one kill during the night? It will still be 3 against 2.

Which makes me seriously consider the possibility that we're looking at one more baddie. Thoughts?
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Re: [DAY 6] Pikmin Mafia

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Spacedaisy wrote:I don't understand your point. I forgot he was the one killed in the last night post put up. And when I remembered that (sadly only after MP busted up laughing at me) I recalled why I had not weighed in on him or suspected him, and why I thought it particularly bad that he had died.
May I ask why you thought this?
Are you the type of person who would make mistakes in the thread on purpose to make it seem like you are not bad? ("Woops I totally forgot Wilgy was dead")

Agleam: I went after Boomslang as well. Why are Epi and MM bad but not me? Why is Epi bad for going after Boomslang in the first place?
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Re: [DAY 6] Pikmin Mafia

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Epignosis wrote:FZ. - I need to know why you trust me, and have done so all game. Your response will matter.
One reason was I really believed you wouldn't use your kid like that.
The other was, the crumbs you left in the thread led me to believe you were a rock pikmin.
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Re: [DAY 6] Pikmin Mafia

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@ FZ:

Possible.
But there are more possibilities:
- With 7 people left, it's possible there are 4 civs - 3 baddies left, and that this could be the final lynch.
- If there are 2 baddies left, it's possible we lynch one and one gets killed by the protagonists tonight.
- The Snagret hasn't been online last night and wasn't able to send in the kill.
- MP would say that regardless of the result of this lynch/NK.

I think it's more likely the Snagret is dead (giving the Phosbat an extra vote) but I don't think the value is in figuring out if there is 1, 2 or 3 baddies left, I'd rather figure out who is actually bad.
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Re: [DAY 6] Pikmin Mafia

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Typhoony wrote:@ FZ:

Possible.
But there are more possibilities:
- With 7 people left, it's possible there are 4 civs - 3 baddies left, and that this could be the final lynch.
- If there are 2 baddies left, it's possible we lynch one and one gets killed by the protagonists tonight.
- The Snagret hasn't been online last night and wasn't able to send in the kill.
- MP would say that regardless of the result of this lynch/NK.

I think it's more likely the Snagret is dead (giving the Phosbat an extra vote) but I don't think the value is in figuring out if there is 1, 2 or 3 baddies left, I'd rather figure out who is actually bad.
Okay, I was mainly saying this because if both Glorfindel and K4J were bad, we could look at their connections and who they suspected or trusted. At the moment, all we have are shots in the dark because we think one of them was more likely to be bad than the other.

But okay, I'm all for figuring out who is bad. We've been doing a lousy job at it so far. I thought maybe we could use something more substantial.
So you think Agleaminranks is bad? Why, because he's pointing fingers at MM and Epi and excluding when you acted similarly? Did I understand right?
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I didn't mean to discourage you from trying to look for connections, but I think it's dangerous to look at somebody's connections when we don't have confirmation they are bad.
Yes, we have a solid reason to suspect atleast one of those three was bad... But that's it. DDL and K4J did not really ping me which would leave Glorfindel to be bad... but I don't know how substantial that is. :shrug:

That's part of it, yes. Yesterday he made me feel a bit better when he stepped away from that theory, but today he immediately went back to it which took away any of those good feelings I had again.
I'll post a bit more later, have some other stuff to do first.

Who do you think is bad?
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Typhoony wrote:I didn't mean to discourage you from trying to look for connections, but I think it's dangerous to look at somebody's connections when we don't have confirmation they are bad.
Yes, we have a solid reason to suspect atleast one of those three was bad... But that's it. DDL and K4J did not really ping me which would leave Glorfindel to be bad... but I don't know how substantial that is. :shrug:

That's part of it, yes. Yesterday he made me feel a bit better when he stepped away from that theory, but today he immediately went back to it which took away any of those good feelings I had again.
I'll post a bit more later, have some other stuff to do first.

Who do you think is bad?
DDL was not bad, because he was killed by the baddies.
Which leaves K4J and Glorfindel. Glorfindel pinged a lot of people, but K4J didn't. I agreed with K4J on a lot of things, which made me feel pretty good about him, but seeing my score record so far (or everyone's for that matter), I could have easily been wrong about him. At the moment, I can see reasons to suspect and reasons to trust almost every player in the game. I think that substantial evidence would really help us at this point.

But let's see.
If I haven't been wrong about who I think Epi is, he's my most trusted player. If I'm wrong, I'm the worst player ever to play this game, LOL.

Typhoony- In the last day or so, I felt like we were thinking exactly the same things. Made me feel good about him. I realize that could mean nothing, but I can't bring myself to vote him unless someone gives me a really good reason.

MM- He's the hardest for me to read out of the living players, as it is. Now that he's cursed it's freaking impossible. It makes it easier for him if he's bad, but I don't think he's responsible for the curse. So I have no idea what he is.

SD- Another one I felt was on the same page with me. So what I don't understand is her vote for Epi. Given the result of the lynch, I can't really say anything. By process of elimination, I realize she could be bad, but that's mostly the reason.

Agleaminranks- The only things that pinged me about him were his reaction to my reaction after Matt's lynch (the one about me wanting to be lynched or asking for it, which was ridiculous in my opinion) and then, his theory about Epi and MM working together because of MM's vote switch and both being cursed. But it also felt at the end of the day, like he was trying to get to the bottom of things.

Simon- well, I was one who felt Epi might be wrong about him when he was convinced. I still see no reason to suspect him, but again, process of elimination is not letting me rule him out any more.

I got to admit, I lost my confidence after all the mislynches, but the baddies are doing a fine job this game. I don't have anyone I'm convinced is a baddie at this point. :disappoint:

I feel the best way to find one is to converse live. I hope I'll be around later, but I have this family event tonight, and I'm not sure how much time I'll have.
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Ok I found myself focusing too much on agleaminranks in my head, so I tried to look at other people instead.

Simon:
... I got nothing. There's almost no content at all in his posts. He pops in to vote from time to time or to randomly post something. His reasons for voting are either to save himself or <insert arbitrary reason>.
Best I can go on is the judgement of other people who have played with him, and they seem to think he is not bad, but I would really like some content from him.

Spacedaisy:
Her Day 1 was dominated by defending Glorfindel because she would like to give him the chance to enjoy a light hearted fun game. That's odd to me, but she has explained this multiple times in a way that could make sense.

Day 2 she mostly talked about Sig/Simon/Epi like everybody else. When she is asking questions it seems to me she really wants to figure things out and doesn't just ask things for the hell of it. She ended up voting Simon to tie it up, which is a shit reason if you ask me.

On Day 3 she voted Matt because he refused to make a case on Glorfindel, even after being asked for it, saying that nobody pays attention to his cases anyway and that the people questioning him are bad. Which is fair. There are also some other useful thoughts in that post for everyone to read.

On Day 4 she went against Glorfindel, mostly because she thought there could be a connection to Matt since he changed his mind on Glorfindel. She voted Matt again. Would've been interesting to see if she had gone against Glorfindel if Glor had survived N4, but alas.

And then there is Day 5, where she voted Epi because she felt more confident about Boom than Epi. Fair reason. Says she is susp of Me/Simon/Agleam in that order, has since made it Simon/Gleam/Me (I think?)

I'm leaning slightly more civ on her for now, and her read through made me more comfortable that Glorfindel was bad. I'll hold off on further judgement until she answers my earlier questions.

Also, while looking at the votes, I noticed that agleamingranks is the only one who hasn't yet voted for a lynched person. I find that suspicious... he knows who is bad and who not so it's easy to bathe his hands in innocence if anyone questions him on his voting record.
He has voted for people who were later lynched (Scotty D2, Matt D3). He never mentioned Scotty again after his D2 vote, except AFTER Scotty died. Exactly the same thing for Matt. And here I am focusing on algeaminranks again :p
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Re: [DAY 6] Pikmin Mafia

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Typhoony wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:I don't understand your point. I forgot he was the one killed in the last night post put up. And when I remembered that (sadly only after MP busted up laughing at me) I recalled why I had not weighed in on him or suspected him, and why I thought it particularly bad that he had died.
May I ask why you thought this?
Are you the type of person who would make mistakes in the thread on purpose to make it seem like you are not bad? ("Woops I totally forgot Wilgy was dead")

Agleam: I went after Boomslang as well. Why are Epi and MM bad but not me? Why is Epi bad for going after Boomslang in the first place?
LOL you guys think me way more capable of being a clever and manipulative baddie than I really am. Intentionally making a mistake in thread is not something I have ever even thought of, let alone tried.

You can ask, yes. But I won't answer. There was a specific reason I didn't weigh in on Wilgy, apparently I did such a good job avoiding it that I forgot about it, lol. Not only do I feel like it would be rule breaking to reveal why, but it wouldn't be helpful to the civs and more specifically to myself.
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Epi, what are your current thoughts on Simon? I'm concerned by the fact that once the storm blew over from the first couple days we have heard nothing from him at all. It worries me that he might be trying to avoid making anymore mistakes and letting his teammates take the lead. Where do you stand on Simon now?
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Spacedaisy wrote:Epi, what are your current thoughts on Simon? I'm concerned by the fact that once the storm blew over from the first couple days we have heard nothing from him at all. It worries me that he might be trying to avoid making anymore mistakes and letting his teammates take the lead. Where do you stand on Simon now?
Any more mistakes? The kid said he was on a team with sig and nobody really lifted a finger. He could burn a church down and most of the people here would go, "Aw, isn't he cute?"

No, I don't think he's bad.

First, I would expect him to be more involved if he had BTSC and a team depending on him. Second, my initial suspicion was predicated on him being sig's teammate, which isn't the case. Third, when Simon took votes and sig got lynched, I didn't detect a move to throw him under the bus or one to save him (sig got lynched by landslide). Fourth, Simon said, "I voted for boomslang. I might win because I haven't gotten lynched yet." Simon has never played a game where civilians win dead or alive, and thus this would be a strange thing for him to say if he were bad and knew he would win dead or alive if his team did. Fifth, Simon had his vote on me at one point, and then changed it to Scotty: If he were bad, what reason would he have to switch like that for, as he put it, "No reason. :keys: " and then not turn around and try to lynch me?

All of this points to Simon being good.
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Spacedaisy wrote: LOL you guys think me way more capable of being a clever and manipulative baddie than I really am. Intentionally making a mistake in thread is not something I have ever even thought of, let alone tried.
That's just the thing a baddie would say :mafia: :P

Can you elaborate on your suspicion of agleaminranks?
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Lol, my suspicion of gleam is because he suspects me because I'm "too good" which is the strangest reason I've ever heard.
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Typhoony wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote: LOL you guys think me way more capable of being a clever and manipulative baddie than I really am. Intentionally making a mistake in thread is not something I have ever even thought of, let alone tried.
That's just the thing a baddie would say :mafia: :P

Can you elaborate on your suspicion of agleaminranks?
It's also something a civ who had never considered doing something like that would say.
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Fair enough Epi, thanks for you input.
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Is there a specific reason why you think MM is not bad SD?
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No, I'm open to the possibility of being wrong there, mostly gut
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MetalMarsh where you at?
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I just got home from a family event, it's after 1:15 am and I can barely keep my eyes open. I know the decisions we make the following days or whatever it takes, are crucial, but I can't stay more than two minutes. I also have to get up early tomorrow.
Is anyone here? Who the heck should we lynch?
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I'm here.
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I was planning to vote for agleaminranks, but wanted to hear what he had to say. He hasn't said anything.
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Please, can someone come here and discuss things with me? I'm going to have to vote in a minute. I don't want to lose the game because we made another wrong decision

linki: Thank god. If not him, who else are you willing to vote for?
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Would you all prefer if I extended this Day period as well? I hadn't thought of it since Christmas Eve wasn't upon us yet, but if you'd prefer a longer Day 6 over a potential longer Day 7, let me know.

Sorry I didn't bring this up earlier, but I hadn't thought of it.
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I'm also here.

I'd prefer a longer Day 7 over a longer Day 6 if we can only choose one. Both to be longer might be even better :p
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Typhoony wrote:I'm also here.

I'd prefer a longer Day 7 over a longer Day 6 if we can only choose one. Both to be longer might be even better :p
It's a tough call, since my parents are supposed to be in town by the 28th, and I really wanted this game to be over by then... Of course, I don't want to indicate how much longer there could be in this game, but the only thing holding me back from saying both Day 6 and Day 7 would be 48 hours is that fact.
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I may be pushed into a position where we go a bit beyond the 28th anyway, and I suppose it wouldn't be a big deal...

So let me go ahead and extend this poll. You all will have an extra 24 hours.

If you could send in any Night 6 actions (assuming it happens) as quickly as you can, or even in advance, that'd be awesome -- that way it could save us all some time and I'd definitely be able to make Day 7 48 hours as well without losing too much during the Night.
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Awesome. Thanks MP!
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If the level of participation continues like this tomorrow, it won't help me make a better decision. But if people would be here tomorrow to talk before I have to go to bed, then it might come in very helpful.

linki: If there are 3 baddies alive (which I strongly doubt), there might not be a day 7 if we get this lynch wrong

linki 2: I don't want to ruin your parents' visit for you, MP. Let's just end this day on time. If we lose, we lose. I don't feel like we deserve this win anyway...but I still want to win :P

linki 3: Stop it. By the time I reply, you write another post, LOL. Whatever is good for all of you. Just know that I am not here on Friday. If the deadline will be on Friday, I won't be able to vote
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So here's the final decision in TL;DR form as much as possible:

- Day 6 is now 48 hours. You have until 8:11PM Eastern tomorrow, December 24th to cast your votes. Poll is still changeable.
- For Night 6 (if it happens), please send me any PMs as soon as you can, even in advance if possible. That way I can get on with the Night actions ahead of time and we can press forward immediately into Day 7 if necessary.
- For Day 7 (if it happens), it will be 48 hours.

Have a Happy Holidays, folks!
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Okay, I'm going to sleep then. Thank you!!
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No problem. Sorry for the confusion and last minute change, but I think this will be best. :)
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I'll be very sparse on Friday and Saturday, since we have this silly thing called 2nd Christmas Day over here.
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I put a vote on agleaminranks for now. Maybe that will get him to talk.
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And Happy Holidays to everyone alive, dead, non-playing and even the Host :beer:
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We could all lynch FZ. while she's asleep. :feb:
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Typhoony wrote:And Happy Holidays to everyone alive, dead, non-playing and even the Host :beer:
And to you my friend and to everyone else in this game. I hope it is a wonderful time for each and everyone of you :hug:
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Well, here are my current thoughts on the rest of the remaining players:

I'm going back to my position on Epignosis and Metalmarsh being teammates after their Boomslang lynch. Is it a long shot to say that they would both fake being insanified, getting us to think there is a secret role, and have one of them initially vote for the other in order to cover up being bad? Maybe. But it's also a brilliant baddie tactic, and if it were true, a perfect way to hide and throw suspicions elsewhere. If I were a baddie, it's a strategy I would want to use.
My other thought was that early on, before being "insanified", neither of them really gave a ton of good reason to really explain their vote. The last two lynches have been bandwagons one or the other has started. They may have intentionally spread their votes earlier to avoid a correlation but now with so few players left, just two people on board with a lynch is enough to damn near anyone.

I don't think I have any real suspicions on Typhoony or FZ at the moment. Both of them have been pretty active in the last two or three voting periods, both encouraging discussion and theories. I had said I was pinged by something FZ mentioned earlier but I read FZ as a civilian who is frustrated by the nature of our lynching history so far. Typhoony that's an interesting case you've built against me, my voting history is more that I really don't like bandwagon voting unless I'm dead sure about the person in question. At the time of their lynch I didn't find them suspicious enough to merit a vote, though they may have been moreso in my eyes earlier (re: Scotty and Matt) before they had enough time to explain their positions.

Simon I think is probably good, I agree with Spacedaisy in that given how much scrutiny he was under he's probably just avoiding trying to say anything at all given that it might hurt the good guys if he was lynched.

My initial suspicions of Spacedaisy were her noted absence at what I thought was a crucial intersection of discussion, I thought it may have been intentional but she explained why it wasn't. With regards to her being "too nice" well yeah, I gather she is someone who normally has a polite discourse and a pretty even head, but like I said before, where else better to hide than in plain sight? All the people previously thought to be bad by the majority were shown not to be, so we have to turn our attention elsewhere.
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Re: [DAY 6] Pikmin Mafia

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agleaminranks wrote:Well, here are my current thoughts on the rest of the remaining players:

I'm going back to my position on Epignosis and Metalmarsh being teammates after their Boomslang lynch. Is it a long shot to say that they would both fake being insanified, getting us to think there is a secret role, and have one of them initially vote for the other in order to cover up being bad? Maybe. But it's also a brilliant baddie tactic, and if it were true, a perfect way to hide and throw suspicions elsewhere. If I were a baddie, it's a strategy I would want to use.
You keep using this word. If it were perfect, then how did you figure it out so quickly? :omg:

Let me get this straight.

If you were bad, you would:

1. Have a teammate vote you early and often
2. Fake telling jokes
3. Have a teammate call you out for faking
4. Continue telling jokes
5. Have a teammate start telling jokes
6. And fool others into thinking there is a secret role

And to you, that's a "perfect" strategy?

Skeletor disapproves. :suspish:

It's not perfect because it's nothing more than speculation. You can take any two actions, tie them together, and call them the perfect strategy to do X.
agleaminranks wrote:My other thought was that early on, before being "insanified", neither of them really gave a ton of good reason to really explain their vote. The last two lynches have been bandwagons one or the other has started. They may have intentionally spread their votes earlier to avoid a correlation but now with so few players left, just two people on board with a lynch is enough to damn near anyone.
All right, let us apply this measure to you:

Day 1:
agleaminranks wrote:I'm voting for metalmarsh because 1. it's against the rules, and the rules can be darned and 2. I was not properly gendered.
A side point here. In Homestar Runner, you were bad, and the first thing you did was vote for a teammate (Vompatti).

Day 2:
agleaminranks wrote:The only solid inclination I have towards anyone at the moment is Scotty, he made a couple of posts attempting to vouch for the goodness of certain people, something I think is less likely to be hiding teammates and more likely to just be casting him in a good light.
agleaminranks wrote:I'm not entirely sold on Scotty atm, and I really don't know what to think of the sig/Simon coalition. I don't think I read the early posts close enough.
agleaminranks wrote:I also have to return to studying. Metalmarsh makes some decent points against Epignosis, something I would really like more time to consider, but I'm sticking with my thoughts on Scotty. So he gets my vote tonight.
Nowhere in your Day 2 posts do you engage Scotty. You just talked about him. Then you voted him. I also observe here that you think MM made good points about me, but now, at this stage, we must be teammates based on a perfect strategy. Mmm hmm.

Day 3:

You don't vote for Scotty. You again express suspicion of me, but vote for Matt.
agleaminranks wrote:I agree that Matt's vote is suspicious, until he explains himself. My vote may sway to him unless he can convince me otherwise.
agleaminranks wrote:I think I'm going to vote Matt too.
Day 4:

No vote.

Day 5:
agleaminranks wrote:Also I need to head to work soon. I'll try and keep up on my phone.

Typhoony's argument makes more sense than my original twisted conspiracy theory, or at least is probably more likely. Given that in mind I'm reversing my position on Epignosis and Metalmarsh, I'm inclined to think Spacedaisy might be guilty of something now. She's almost been... too good. Y'know?
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I wouldn't have suspicions if I were mafia, would I? I would just know.

I don't have much confidence in my suspicions, you're right. This is mafia. We make extremely vague speculations on minute details that far more often than not are either insignificant or misinterpretations. It's impossible to have knowledge based on inductive inference. All we can do is our best shot in the dark. That's what I'm offering with my current suspicion. And yeah, if I were a baddie, I would think that is a pretty in-depth strategy laid out there. Although, as you pointed out in HR, I wasn't all that good at being a baddie either.

I didn't make much attempt to really engage people because I didn't have as much time as I would like to participate in the game a few voting periods ago. I just got done with finals for the semester. I had time to stop in, catch up with the game progress, form a superficial and weak suspicion, and vote before I dipped out.

I'm sticking with what I said. I feel like I have better reason to suspect you and Metalmarsh than any other player still in the game.
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