Spirited Away Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Marmot]

PMs are coming out shortly.

[sig]

That wasn't very nice.

[Quin]

That wasn't very nice.

-shakes sig's fist-

[Marmot]

All PMs are out. Or at least I hope they are. I think I'm getting better at this hosting thing.

[Long Con]

RIP sig. And welcome Zebra! What happened to sprityo?

[Marmot]

RIP sig. And welcome Zebra! What happened to sprityo?

Sprityo asked to be replaced, so Yubaba turned him into a zebra zebra willingly obliged to replace in.

[Sorsha]

It was 2/3 when I voted, and I'm sorry, I didn't think Soneji was bad. I am not going to vote for someone I don;t think is bad.

I was just thinking that I would expect a baddie to have avoided the lynch train on civ Soneji, and then I come in and see this post from you, Eloh. Who do you think are the baddies involved in the Soneji lynch, if any?

If I have to rank the Soneji voters, it would be Niju, Sorsha, Wilgy, SVS, then sig.

I don't blame you, or anyone else, for finding me suspicious for yesterday's vote. What happened yesterday is a perfect example of why I hate doing last minute vote changes and why I refused to do it the day before when LC wanted me to switch to Quin... This is what usually happens.


Niju is not on the poll today... That was an odd choice for Oshira-sama. I'm guessing some target switch was involved with it?

[Dom]

Unless it's a self target.

[S~V~S]

I have to agree with Sorsha; removing Niju would appear to be somehow shenanigan related, but a quick double check of the roles does not see this as a baddie related power.

The power steatrer is a civ, and is also dead *shrug*

[S~V~S]

*Power STEALER

I need to proofread better, sorry folks

[Bubbles]

RIP sig! hope to see you in another game.

[Bubbles]

zebra do you have any reads so far?

[DFaraday]

I have to agree with Sorsha; removing Niju would appear to be somehow shenanigan related, but a quick double check of the roles does not see this as a baddie related power.

The power steatrer is a civ, and is also dead *shrug*

There are a couple of secrets, but they're also civ (and indy I guess). There's no self-targeting, so she can't have been Oshira-sama or whoever did it. Which means whoever did it probably doesn't even know Ninja's role.

[Long Con]

I have to agree with Sorsha; removing Niju would appear to be somehow shenanigan related, but a quick double check of the roles does not see this as a baddie related power.

The power stealer is a civ, and is also dead *shrug*

There are a couple of secrets, but they're also civ (and indy I guess). There's no self-targeting, so she can't have been Oshira-sama or whoever did it. Which means whoever did it probably doesn't even know Ninja's role.

So we've got a Civ Nijuu-sympathizer. We also don't know what the bath tokens do... has anyone received one yet? Care to comment on their function? I have not gotten one.

[Dom]

I have to agree with Sorsha; removing Niju would appear to be somehow shenanigan related, but a quick double check of the roles does not see this as a baddie related power.

The power steatrer is a civ, and is also dead *shrug*

There are a couple of secrets, but they're also civ (and indy I guess). There's no self-targeting, so she can't have been Oshira-sama or whoever did it. Which means whoever did it probably doesn't even know Ninja's role.

I just saw the self targeting rule.

Time to move on I guess.

[S~V~S]

I have to agree with Sorsha; removing Niju would appear to be somehow shenanigan related, but a quick double check of the roles does not see this as a baddie related power.

The power stealer is a civ, and is also dead *shrug*

There are a couple of secrets, but they're also civ (and indy I guess). There's no self-targeting, so she can't have been Oshira-sama or whoever did it. Which means whoever did it probably doesn't even know Ninja's role.

So we've got a Civ Nijuu-sympathizer. We also don't know what the bath tokens do... has anyone received one yet? Care to comment on their function? I have not gotten one.

I have, but I do not know what they do. I asked in thread, and via PM and both times I was told

[Marmot]

You all may speculate on what Bath Tokens do, but you may not state whether you have one or not. This does count as info-dumping.

[S~V~S]

Speculatively speaking, of course

[Scotty]

You all may speculate on what Bath Tokens do, but you may not state whether you have one or not. This does count as info-dumping.

i decided to eat mine and no I am dead. Halp

[a2thezebra]

I'm catching up. Who should I vote for?

[DrWilgy]

Not me. Wassup Zeebs? How was/is your game going?

[Dom]

Vote DFaraday 2K16

[S~V~S]

For now, yeah, I will.

[nijuukyugou]

Someone out here loves me And the baddies thought today's vote would be easy Joke's on you!

I have to agree with Sorsha; removing Niju would appear to be somehow shenanigan related, but a quick double check of the roles does not see this as a baddie related power.

The power steatrer is a civ, and is also dead *shrug*

There are a couple of secrets, but they're also civ (and indy I guess). There's no self-targeting, so she can't have been Oshira-sama or whoever did it. Which means whoever did it probably doesn't even know Ninja's role.

Or perhaps they do, and have good reason to protect me

I have a shitty voting record, and my posting count sucks this game, more so than usual. But I'm not the only one to whom these criticisms these can be attributed, and that's all the "evidence" I'm seeing from those who suspect me. Anyway, I waste my breath (errr, keystrokes?), as I'm not a candidate today, so that's a conversation for another Day (hey, I rhymed!).

My last suspicions still stand. I also want to read back more thoroughly in general so I can possibly be more eloquent/informed for the next vote, more so than I have been, and actually contribute. I may do so tonight, but not before taking advantage of this lovely bathhouse after finally getting back up to running 3 miles, woo! 4-miler next Saturday, here I come!

[Long Con]

I'm going to get confused between this game and the other one.

[Dom]

I'm going to get confused between this game and the other one.

I already have.

[Long Con]

Ok, so how do we analyze G-Man's technicolour voting lists?

[Dom]

I've always been kind of crappy at that.

[Long Con]

You wanna just... sneak off and get high?

[S~V~S]

Yes!

[DrWilgy]

Yes!

[DFaraday]

Dom, since you've literally suspected me since Day 1, I appreciate it if you made a coherent case on me. As it is, I'm still not entirely sure what has you keep gunning for me beyond having a weak Day 1 vote.

[DFaraday]

Ok, so how do we analyze G-Man's technicolour voting lists?

Working on it.

[DFaraday]

Technicolor vote
Analysis can provide
A new perspective

DAY 1

Spoiler: show

1. MATT (sig)
2. MATT (sprityo)
3. QUIN (Long Con)
4. THELLAMA73 (S~V~S)
5. THELLAMA73 (Sloonei)<---CIVVIE
6. DOM (DFaraday)
7. SIG (Matt) <---CIVVIE
8. MATT (Nijuukyugou)
9. THELLAMA73 (Bubbles)
10. DRWILGY (Elohcin)
11. BUBBLES (Scotty)<---CIVVIE
12. MATT (Quin)<---CIVVIE
13. THELLAMA73 (DrWilgy)
14. MATT (thellama73)<---BADDIE
15. DFARADY (Sorsha)
16. THELLAMA73 (G-Man)
17. THELLAMA73 (Dr. Wilgette)<---CIVVIE

MISSING VOTES: Dom, Soneji

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4. THELLAMA73 (S~V~S)
5. THELLAMA73 (Sloonei)<---CIVVIE
9. THELLAMA73 (Bubbles)
13. THELLAMA73 (DrWilgy)
16. THELLAMA73 (G-Man)
17. THELLAMA73 (Dr. Wilgette)<---CIVVIE

1. MATT (sig)
2. MATT (sprityo)
8. MATT (Nijuukyugou)
12. MATT (Quin)<---CIVVIE
14. MATT (thellama73)<---BADDIE

3. QUIN (Long Con)

6. DOM (DFaraday)

7. SIG (Matt) <---CIVVIE

10. DRWILGY (Elohcin)

11. BUBBLES (Scotty)<---CIVVIE

15. DFARADY (Sorsha)


MISSING VOTES:
Dom
Soneji<---CIVVIE

Day 1 tells us that SVS, Wilgy, G-Man and Bubbles are unlikely to be bad, unless they were bussing a teammate. Sorsha's vote stands out as coming at a pivotal time but not going for either major candidate (and for being on me ). LC's vote doesn't give any indication of his alignment. Dom missed, so it's hard to glean anything from that. Ninja voted for Matt in the middle of the pack, so it could be a save attempt.

DAY 2

Spoiler: show

1. MATT (sig)
2. DRWILGETTE (Bubbles)
3. MATT (Elohcin)
4. MATT (Scotty)<---CIVVIE
5. MATT (Quin)<---CIVVIE
6. SIG (Matt)<---CIVVIE
7. MATT (Dom)
8. ELOHCIN (DrWilgy)
9. DRWILGY (S~V~S)
10. MATT (Sorsha)
11. ELOHCIN (DFaraday)
12. MATT (Nijuukyugou)
13. ELOHCIN (DrWilgette)<---CIVVIE
14. MATT (Soneji)<---CIVVIE
15. MATT (G-Man)

MISSING VOTES: sprityo
SILENCED: Long Con

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1. MATT (sig)
3. MATT (Elohcin)
4. MATT (Scotty)<---CIVVIE
5. MATT (Quin)<---CIVVIE
7. MATT (Dom)
10. MATT (Sorsha)
12. MATT (Nijuukyugou)
14. MATT (Soneji)<---CIVVIE
15. MATT (G-Man)

8. ELOHCIN (DrWilgy)
11. ELOHCIN (DFaraday)
13. ELOHCIN (DrWilgette)<---CIVVIE

2. DRWILGETTE (Bubbles)

6. SIG (Matt)<---CIVVIE

9. DRWILGY (S~V~S)

MISSING VOTES: sprityo
SILENCED: Long Con

Ninja, Dom, G-Man, and Eloh voted on the Matt train, but Ninja and G-Man's votes came so late as to feel like a better place to hide. Bubbles, Wilgy, and SVS all voted in different places, so it's hard to make anything out of them just from the voting pattern. SVS was pretty consistent in suspecting Wilgy though. Sprit missed, so that's a null read.

DAY 3

Spoiler: show

1. LONG CON (Quin)<---CIVVIE
2. QUIN (Long Con)
3. ELOHCIN (sprityo)
4. QUIN (soneji)<---CIVVIE
5. SONEJI (sig)
6. DRWILGY (Elohcin)
7. QUIN (Nijuukyugou)
8. DRWILGY (Dom)
9. QUIN (DFaraday)
10. ELOHCIN (DrWilgy)
11. G-MAN (Sorsha)
12. QUIN (G-Man)

MISSING VOTES: Bubbles, DrWilgette
SILENCED: S~V~S

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2. QUIN (Long Con)
4. QUIN (soneji)<---CIVVIE
7. QUIN (Nijuukyugou)
9. QUIN (DFaraday)
12. QUIN (G-Man)

3. ELOHCIN (sprityo)
10. ELOHCIN (DrWilgy)

6. DRWILGY (Elohcin)
8. DRWILGY (Dom)

1. LONG CON (Quin)<---CIVVIE

5. SONEJI (sig)

11. G-MAN (Sorsha)

MISSING VOTES:
Bubbles
DrWilgette<---CIVVIE

SILENCED:
S~V~S

G-Man again with the late vote, after the lynch was a runaway. Eloh going back to her Wilgy suspicion is a good look for her, and likewise for Wilgy voting Eloh. I don't agree with either one's suspicion, but consistent reads typically make me feel better about people. And Sorsha, like before, votes late and irrelevantly.

DAY 4

Spoiler: show

1. DRWILGY (Bubbles)
2. NIJUUKYUGOU (Long Con)
3. SONEJI (S~V~S)
4. SONEJI (DrWilgy)
5. NIJUUKYUGOU (G-Man)
6. DFARADAY (Dom)
7. SONEJI (sig)
8. NIJUUKYUGOU (Elohcin)
9. SONEJI (Nijuukyugou)
10. NIJUUKYUGOU (Soneji)<---CIVVIE
11. SONEJI (Sorsha)
12. DOM (DFaraday)

MISSING VOTES: sprityo

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3. SONEJI (S~V~S)
4. SONEJI (DrWilgy)
7. SONEJI (sig)
9. SONEJI (Nijuukyugou)
11. SONEJI (Sorsha)

2. NIJUUKYUGOU (Long Con)
5. NIJUUKYUGOU (G-Man)
8. NIJUUKYUGOU (Elohcin)
10. NIJUUKYUGOU (Soneji)<---CIVVIE

1. DRWILGY (Bubbles)

6. DFARADAY (Dom)

12. DOM (DFaraday)

MISSING VOTES:
sprityo

Day 4 Sorsha casts the deciding vote on Soneji, who turns out to be civ. This seems worse to me since she left her G-Man suspicion to vote Soneji. LC, Eloh, and G-Man look better just by virtue of not voting a civ. Sprit missing again continues to give no read.

Just going off the votes, I'd say the last three baddies are among Sorsha, Ninja, G-Man, LC, and Sprit, in that order of suspicion.

[Dom]

Dom, since you've literally suspected me since Day 1, I appreciate it if you made a coherent case on me. As it is, I'm still not entirely sure what has you keep gunning for me beyond having a weak Day 1 vote.

You seem happy to avoid giving opinions when not pressured to do so and you also voted very... strangely yesterdya

[Sorsha]

I could get behind a DF lynch today. His defense of G-Man has got me thinking of a couple of scenarios. One: based on DF defending him and attacking me, that maybe I am wrong about G-Man. Its possible that DF knows G-Man is good because DF himself is bad. By attacking me he's trying to gain G-Man's favor, (or anyone's really who thinks that G-Man is good.) Or perhaps they are teammates and DF feels comfortable enough defending him since no one else is really agreeing with my G-Man suspicion.

I still find G-Man's actions this game suspicious and the fact that G-Man really hasn't even addressed them also bothers me. And I'm irritated that he is silenced today because it's just a lame free pass. Am I missing something on why no one else finds anything G-Man has done as suspicious?

Anyway- for now I'm going with a DF vote.

[S~V~S]

Dom, since you've literally suspected me since Day 1, I appreciate it if you made a coherent case on me. As it is, I'm still not entirely sure what has you keep gunning for me beyond having a weak Day 1 vote.

For me it is also the people you have defended, the suspicions you have and have not gotten.

[Long Con]

I could get behind a DF lynch today. His defense of G-Man has got me thinking of a couple of scenarios. One: based on DF defending him and attacking me, that maybe I am wrong about G-Man. Its possible that DF knows G-Man is good because DF himself is bad. By attacking me he's trying to gain G-Man's favor, (or anyone's really who thinks that G-Man is good.) Or perhaps they are teammates and DF feels comfortable enough defending him since no one else is really agreeing with my G-Man suspicion.

I still find G-Man's actions this game suspicious and the fact that G-Man really hasn't even addressed them also bothers me. And I'm irritated that he is silenced today because it's just a lame free pass. Am I missing something on why no one else finds anything G-Man has done as suspicious?

Anyway- for now I'm going with a DF vote.

Gimme a quick and dirty list of G-Man suspicious behaviours again.

[a2thezebra]

Dom, since you've literally suspected me since Day 1, I appreciate it if you made a coherent case on me. As it is, I'm still not entirely sure what has you keep gunning for me beyond having a weak Day 1 vote.

For me it is also the people you have defended, the suspicions you have and have not gotten.

S~V~S, what would your second choice be if you could not vote for DFaraday today?

[DrWilgy]

Hold the quick LC, just dirty... Keep it dirty...

So I like DFaraday's analysis for the most part... Here's an angle that includes the analyzer.

Day 1: DF voted rogue when there was a baddie included tie
Day 2: DF voted rogue again, maybe wanted to avoid a civ lynch that he didn't need to be part of? but that would imply Elo is civ...
Day 3: Quin had the lead when DF voted and didn't shit the way the wagon was going. Quin was one in the lead when DF voted...
Day 4: Off the boat again

Ninja, Dom, G-Man, and Eloh voted on the Matt train, but Ninja and G-Man's votes came so late as to feel like a better place to hide.

So if a later vote means a place to hide for a baddie, wouldn't that match your day 3? Quin was already going down so throw a vote that way? also would finding a place to hide reflect you voting off boat 3/4 days?

SVS was pretty consistent in suspecting Wilgy though.

What would match as being consistent from Day 2?

@Zeebs, why are you asking SVS in specific?

[a2thezebra]

Because her focus seems a bit narrow at the moment.

[DrWilgy]

A sorta... pickin at straws comment... I feel like we are in a good territory if we bop Elo, DF, Sriracha, or Dom on the nose today...

[S~V~S]

I specifically did NOT suspect Wilgy. Faraday, way to misinterpret the data.

And I think LC is bad, and have done so for the whole game. But I can't much find a hook for it except my tone read and gut. And the way LC reacts towards me whenever I suspect him makes me want ot back off of him, and I don;t know why. He tends to be sharper with me than he is with others, and it works.

But I believe we have met Zebra. I tend to have a fairly narrow focus. I see what *one* person has done to make me suspect them, I don't troll for suspicions.

[S~V~S]

I always have a "narrow focus". On Day one I focused exclusively on one person, too.

[DrWilgy]

I specifically did NOT suspect Wilgy. Faraday, way to misinterpret the data.

Lol, SVS you ruined the surprise!

[S~V~S]

I beg your pardon, sorry about that. I think, lol.

[DFaraday]

I specifically did NOT suspect Wilgy. Faraday, way to misinterpret the data.

Um, okay. I was actually saying that as a point in your favor, but I really don't remember much of your comments on Wilgy other than you were talking about him a lot. It added consistency, which makes me feel better about people.

[a2thezebra]

Long Con

[DFaraday]

My analysis was almost entirely concerned with the voting record, not the posts people have made, so apologies if that part is fuzzier.

[Dom]

A sorta... pickin at straws comment... I feel like we are in a good territory if we bop Elo, DF, Sriracha, or Dom on the nose today...

That's more than the amount of baddies we got.

My analysis was almost entirely concerned with the voting record, not the posts people have made, so apologies if that part is fuzzier.

So....what was the point then