The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:14 pm**

DrumBeats wrote:Great game mafia, especially 3J who did a great job distancing himself from the rest until the very end when it was no longer necessary. Especially in manipulating those final phases into the best case scenario for the mafia, I wish I was around to try to argue you on the element lynch but sadly I don't think it would've resolved in my favor anyway.

The major lesson from endgame here imo are that if both factions need to eliminate a third party to win, and there is an easy way to work together on it, it needs to happen. I was a broken record about it the whole game, but the elements that remained put us in a bad position late game.

Sad to see that I had flipped Nijuu and 3J but at the same time the order I wanted to lynch it wouldn't have mattered. I wish people had hopped onto my suspicions of K4J as well, but I can see why Nijuu was pushing 3J, likely having snapshotted him.

They didn't. Fetch tracked him when he carried out a kill.

DrumBeats wrote:Excited to see the exact nature of the elusive process, as well as the identity of Luna. My theory on Snapshot is that the player roles that got publically revealed were its doing, as I was Olmarq, and I'm relatively sure I was checked at some point.

Check those roles again!

DrumBeats wrote:Great game balance imo Epi, and the process mechanic was cool. It worked as I believe it was meant to, late game powerhouse if left ignored.

Thank you for playing and the kind words.

I believe this game would have been a completely different monster if everyone had heeded your words of wisdom. The Process was designed so that both sides could recognize the threat that it was and cooperate, or be greedy and go for ruin...just like in the game.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:14 pm**

nijuukyugou wrote:
I will say that, as a freaking indy, this was my best baddie-hunting game by far, even without Snapshot (we missed a few night actions, and then ended up having other checks NK'ed, so it was pointless), so I thoroughly enjoyed stretching the hunting muscles after such a long period of mafia laziness. It just goes to show you: the more effort you expend, the longer it takes for you to lose the game (But seriously, it was great fun, regardless of outcome!)

Well, not pointless. Pointless at times, helpful at others. Didn't finish my thought there, wanted to post! :P

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:15 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Elements were anybody the Camerata Night killed. Hence, sig became the first element. These Night killed people lost their allegiance to Cloudwalk and won with The Process. In all but one case when an element was Night killed, they substituted back into new accounts. The only exception was Fetch, who was...Vompatti. My daughter Abigail was Cell. She's six.
Super neat. That's something I had never considered. Which one of you was Cheerleader?

Thanks for playing with us Simon and Abigail.

That was Scotty.

Simon is my 8-year-old son, for those who do not know. He came into play because his mother got lynched (see her description).

He thought talking like a dog would be hilarious.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:16 pm**

nijuukyugou wrote:I (and the elements I had at the time) figured you were bad the moment you started trying to get people after me.

Yeah. When our kill attempt on you failed, I was shook. There was probably no more difficult lynch on the table than you, and to make matters worse, we had to find a way to generate it without making you look like the Process, because it was too late in the game to lynch the Process openly.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:18 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
nijuukyugou wrote:I (and the elements I had at the time) figured you were bad the moment you started trying to get people after me.
Yeah. When our kill attempt on you failed, I was shook. There was probably no more difficult lynch on the table than you, and to make matters worse, we had to find a way to generate it without making you look like the Process, because it was too late in the game to lynch the Process openly.

And I tried to make it obvious that killing me was a bad idea without directly saying it. Oh, the end of this game was great fun

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:19 pm**

DrWilgy wrote:Good game! being snapshot and creep was fun! Epi don't give me OP elements so I don't get killed right away next time! (dying 3 times in one game was quite the experience)

Thanks for the game!

You were insane with those things. Please do not move next door to me.

What you did with Snapshot was...brilliant.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:20 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Good game! being snapshot and creep was fun! Epi don't give me OP elements so I don't get killed right away next time! (dying 3 times in one game was quite the experience)

Thanks for the game!
You were insane with those things. Please do not move next door to me.

What you did with Snapshot was...brilliant.

Oh my god the element posts KILLED me! That was my favorite, and I was so sad when they would die, mostly for the loss of amusement factor. They were coming up with the most ridiculous crocks of bullshit and people were eating it up

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:23 pm**

I'm glad people seemed to stop caring about anything the elements said toward the end, because I was very concerned that their hatred of me would clue people in that they were protecting niju.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:24 pm**

Y'all's BTSC must've been absolute panic at times

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:25 pm**

nijuukyugou wrote:
Vompatti as Fetch explains so much And I enjoyed playing with Abigail! Who were the other socks?? Like, in order?

They will have to claim them, because I'm on vacation and didn't even bring my notes with me.

If memory serves:

Cell was Abigail
Cheerleader was Scotty
Fetch was Vompatti
Badcell and Weed was thellama73
Young Lady was sig
Man was Matt (who fucked up the chatzy like hell- it was hilarious)

I think that's it...?

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:26 pm**

nijuukyugou wrote:Y'all's BTSC must've been absolute panic at ALL times

See new quote.

Camerata chat

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:32 pm**

The biggest mystery to me is why the most powerful ability in the game went unused: See Turn ( ).

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:33 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
nijuukyugou wrote:Y'all's BTSC must've been absolute panic at ALL times
See new quote.

Camerata chat

I live to strike fear in the hearts of baddies and chaos in their chats

I am appeased.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:35 pm**

OH and how 'bout that that stupid poll with only three names actually was one of each alignment??

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:38 pm**

nijuukyugou wrote:OH and how 'bout that that stupid poll with only three names actually was one of each alignment??

agleaminranks (Wave Tennegan) voted MovingPictures07, who tapped into his power, targeting four adjacent names...and DrWilgy pulled one of those four off, leaving three.

How fun was that?

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:38 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
nijuukyugou wrote:I (and the elements I had at the time) figured you were bad the moment you started trying to get people after me.
Yeah. When our kill attempt on you failed, I was shook. There was probably no more difficult lynch on the table than you, and to make matters worse, we had to find a way to generate it without making you look like the Process, because it was too late in the game to lynch the Process openly.

Honestly, the only reason I didn't think it was Nijuu was because I was so deadset that you were the Process. I really wanted the K4J vote that phase, so I really regret not autolocking it at the beginning of the day to force it.

Really cool that the dead players took on the elements, very nice touch. I wish I would've bought into that theory earlier but part of what sold me that Process was 3J was the sheer amount of effort going into each sock, plus his own interactions with them seemed fabricated to me.

Also, had Dfaraday already used his one-shot protection? Cause I think we could've won if not.

Also, what was Luna's role?

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:40 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
nijuukyugou wrote:OH and how 'bout that that stupid poll with only three names actually was one of each alignment??
agleaminranks (Wave Tennegan) voted MovingPictures07, who tapped into his power, targeting four adjacent names...and DrWilgy pulled one of those four off, leaving three.

How fun was that?

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:41 pm**

Where does it say DFaraday's ability was "one-shot?" He got to be protected from a lynch or a kill every phase.

Luna was the same as Fetch. The one time tracking was useless there.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:44 pm**

It had said "First attempt" so that was what I meant. Now that I think about it though, it wouldn't have been possible anyway, because I just realized that it only would've worked had they shot him on the final night. My bad!

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:49 pm**

DrumBeats wrote:It had said "First attempt" so that was what I meant. Now that I think about it though, it wouldn't have been possible anyway, because I just realized that it only would've worked had they shot him on the final night. My bad!

Nope- I misunderstood what you said there, pal.

DFaraday was never lynched and never targeted for a Night kill, so he could still keep trying to protect himself. That's all I meant.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:05 pm**

Ugh, damn it

Nice job guys.

Epignosis wrote:The biggest mystery to me is why the most powerful ability in the game went unused: See Turn ( ).

I actually never asked, would it have gone through if I had sent it in right before my lynch? I probably should have, but I think I was busy and not thinking

Really wish I had stuck around longer, but meh, kinda my fault.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:07 pm**

nutella wrote:Ugh, damn it Nice job guys.

Epignosis wrote:The biggest mystery to me is why the most powerful ability in the game went unused: See Turn ( ).
I actually never asked, would it have gone through if I had sent it in right before my lynch? I probably should have, but I think I was busy and not thinking Really wish I had stuck around longer, but meh, kinda my fault.

It would not, since you were dead.

Did you know you could have used the Kill ( ) function to murder someone...or not use it at all and prevent a kill from happening? I thought you would be burning that power early on.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:30 pm**

I'd like to know if anyone among llama, Mac, and Snapshot had information on me.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:32 pm**

DrumBeats wrote: Also, had Dfaraday already used his one-shot protection? Cause I think we could've won if not.

I had chosen to be safe for the next night phase, so it wouldn't have applied in the upcoming lynch anyway.

Good job, JJJ, for totally playing me for a fool. :P

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:33 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'd like to know if anyone among llama, Mac, and Snapshot had information on me.

thellama73 was Henter Jallaford and targeted you first.

The other two did not.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:33 pm**

But at least I didn't die, so I'll consider that a small victory.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:35 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'd like to know if anyone among llama, Mac, and Snapshot had information on me.
thellama73 was Henter Jallaford and targeted you first.

The other two did not.

I knew we were playing with fire keeping him alive so long.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:36 pm**

DFaraday wrote:
DrumBeats wrote: Also, had Dfaraday already used his one-shot protection? Cause I think we could've won if not.
I had chosen to be safe for the next night phase, so it wouldn't have applied in the upcoming lynch anyway.

Good job, JJJ, for totally playing me for a fool. :P

Call it even, your baddies got me in Bullets Over Broadway.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:38 pm**

This was a lot of fun to follow along with, well played everyone and really interesting concepts Epi! Also, you all were great players who didn't need me getting in the way, so thanks for a friendly game guys!

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:38 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'd like to know if anyone among llama, Mac, and Snapshot had information on me.
thellama73 was Henter Jallaford and targeted you first.

The other two did not.
I knew we were playing with fire keeping him alive so long.

His action failed like three times in a row though.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:39 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'd like to know if anyone among llama, Mac, and Snapshot had information on me.

I just had a gut read (and also I was part trolling you tbh) and I seriously couldn't get a spare moment to really search for a way to case you. The day that I started to I got lynched.

Fun game though nonetheless. I had purged you the night before I got lynched so you were pretty close to lynched that day I think.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:40 pm**

Thanks for the invite Epignosis. I may have only used the ability twice but it was on Camerata both times at least.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:42 pm**

Thank you for subbing in! I hope you will play more again with us.

MacDougall wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'd like to know if anyone among llama, Mac, and Snapshot had information on me.
I just had a gut read (and also I was part trolling you tbh) and I seriously couldn't get a spare moment to really search for a way to case you. The day that I started to I got lynched.

Fun game though nonetheless. I had purged you the night before I got lynched so you were pretty close to lynched that day I think.

This lynch came very close to happening.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:43 pm**

When you subbed in Mac, my immediate reaction was one of extreme displeasure.

When I'm bad, I tend to play to my audience -- everything I say and do is tailored to the people I'm playing with/against. I had not played a game that was well-suited to a surprise appearance by MacDougall, and I knew you'd give me trouble instantly. :P

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:51 pm**

Also, apologies to sig for the way we treated you in this game. Silenced on Day 1 and killed on Night 1 is brutal. We felt like we had to do it because you'd gotten into BTSC with MP and squeezed a fake roleclaim out of him.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:53 pm**

Epignosis wrote:Thank you for subbing in! I hope you will play more again with us.

MacDougall wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'd like to know if anyone among llama, Mac, and Snapshot had information on me.
I just had a gut read (and also I was part trolling you tbh) and I seriously couldn't get a spare moment to really search for a way to case you. The day that I started to I got lynched.

Fun game though nonetheless. I had purged you the night before I got lynched so you were pretty close to lynched that day I think.
This lynch came very close to happening.

How close we talkin here?

Man... if he had have got lynched that day the cards would have fallen into place perfectly. Lucky for the baddies they managed to get some lazy votes on me at the end there.

Posted: **Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:19 am**

A baddie JJJ...

I require full spectral analysis from town and teammates alike on what makes him tick when bad. Send it to me via PM when the man is sleeping or not paying attention.

Posted: **Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:25 am**

Congrats 3J, Eloh, MP, and K4J!

What a fun game. Sorry I was a terrible Man, niju. Once 3J called me out a few phases ago, I had no idea what I should do or say hahaha.

Oh, I also played the part of Cell on Day Two and Badcell on Day Three. It was weird because becoming Badcell on Day Three was a carryover from my civ role so I wanted to play it like a civvie, even tho on Day Three I also became Man, who was Process aligned hahaha. Oh and I did fuck up the chatzy that was ridiculous but I fixed it.

Posted: **Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:28 am**

Second post...

Matt wrote:And Blooper's obvi the Process. You're welcome.

...what up?

Hahaha nah, that was totally random. Still pretty cool

Posted: **Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:56 am**

I really loved talking to myself this game...

Cell wrote:
Matt wrote:Lol, I got a kick out of one element voting for the other, but as someone else said (Drum?) this is just WIFOM central and I wouldn't trust anything any of them say. I'm pretty much going to pretend they don't exist.
Scans Matt

Results: We believe Matt is detrimental to the Cloudwalk regardless of his alignment.

Haha. I think I've literally seen this said about me before in a game so I thought it'd be funny to poke fun at myself.

Badcell wrote:
Matt wrote:Cool result.

Someone protect me, I think I may get revenge kilt.

Derp
Scans Matt

Results: On re-scan, we believe we owe this one an apology. Your legacy should not be forgotten.

Haha, I think as Badcell I was referring to my ridiculous "Niju is the Process" post and trying to hint at that to town. In another post as Badcell, I even declare that I believe Young Lady is in league with one of the three poll options (which were Nero, MP, and Niju). Hahaha. To be fair, Epi said it was cool that I play Badcell as a civ as long as I didn't straight up out Niju.

And here it gets really fun...

Man wrote:
Badcell wrote:
Young Lady wrote:This Young Lady dislikes Probeys opinion of her.
This Young Lady has been the same since her existence was created to destroy the Dark Master.
This Young Lady distrusts Probey and believes it would be beneficial to terminate it.
This Young Lady believes Ursula, Mooney, or Picture of Motion is Probey and serves the Dark Master.
This thing needs to die.
Just so everyone knows, Young Lady used to date Badcell and it was a terrible break up. I still remember Badcell threatening to take his own life, we had to stage an invervention.

It was terrible.

Here I am as Badcell alerting town that Young Lady needs to die being quoted as me as Man trying to make me as Badcell look silly.

Wow. I do need a hobby. :P

Thanks for the game, Epi, had a blast my friend!

Posted: **Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:48 pm**

Hah! Gg Camerata! I was determined DB was bad, but knew JJJ was bad the day after I died. It's interesting to note just how much knowing one player's identity (nijuu) completely aligns my perspective. I often forget that others can't see the things I do in situations in which I just have more info. And not being able to infodump makes it infinitely harder to push. Hehehehehe cheerleader had no credibility so it makes sense no one would listen to me.

MP, I got your bad game now. No more fooling me, mister.

(this is when you change it up completely next time and I'm left toothless and stumbling around again aimlessly)

Thanks for letting me sub in night 2 Epi! I had a blast, I think.

Posted: **Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:54 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Good game! being snapshot and creep was fun! Epi don't give me OP elements so I don't get killed right away next time! (dying 3 times in one game was quite the experience)

Thanks for the game!
You were insane with those things. Please do not move next door to me.

What you did with Snapshot was...brilliant.

Lol, thanks? And thanks! I looked on the Wiki and saw that Snapshot copies people, and figured I'd do just that. I didn't really know what to do with Creep since it's just a turret.

I was really hoping that by tossing dirt on both a civ and a mafia as Snapshot you baddoes wouldn't murk me right away. Oh well. How was I killed when cheerleader bwas protecting me?

Posted: **Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:58 pm**

K4J was a roleblocker. He blocked Cheerleader and I killed you.

Posted: **Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:00 pm**

niju and elements: what was with Jerk and Clucker never appearing?

Posted: **Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:03 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:K4J was a roleblocker. He blocked Cheerleader and I killed you.

You monster!!! I tried to bargain with you!

I'm surprised you managed to lynch Mac after I cleared him as snap

Linki - Idk fam. I was just there for the memes. I think Niju activated some and had some at random that would wake up.

Posted: **Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:14 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:niju and elements: what was with Jerk and Clucker never appearing?

You guys blocked her, which prevented element spawning.

Posted: **Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:16 pm**

Hey, we won! Nice job, team! Apologies for slacking towards the end there, my RL to mafia balance sunk super quickly.

Thanks for the game, Epi! It was thoroughly enjoyable while I was able to be fully engaged in it.

Posted: **Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:54 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:niju and elements: what was with Jerk and Clucker never appearing?
You guys blocked her, which prevented element spawning.

Oh good then, that did matter.

I just realized that this game capped off a neat trifecta for me. I was in three games at once, two here and one on Bulbagarden. I had one town win, one independent win, and now one mafia win. I'll probably never manage that one again.

Posted: **Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:33 pm**

Matt wrote:Congrats 3J, Eloh, MP, and K4J!

What a fun game. Sorry I was a terrible Man, niju. Once 3J called me out a few phases ago, I had no idea what I should do or say hahaha.

Oh, I also played the part of Cell on Day Two and Badcell on Day Three. It was weird because becoming Badcell on Day Three was a carryover from my civ role so I wanted to play it like a civvie, even tho on Day Three I also became Man, who was Process aligned hahaha. Oh and I did fuck up the chatzy that was ridiculous but I fixed it.

Whoooaaaa I didn't even know what was going on there. The first Badcell was totally not mine, so it freaked me out :P And you (and my other element buddies) were excellent! I enjoyed playing with you all and seeing the crazy shit you'd come up with.

Matt wrote:Second post...

Matt wrote:And Blooper's obvi the Process. You're welcome.
...what up?

Hahaha nah, that was totally random. Still pretty cool

I was hoping and praying no one would take you seriously, and we (I and whoever I had as an element at the time) said you'd have bragging rights at saying that at endgame.

Posted: **Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:02 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
nijuukyugou wrote:OH and how 'bout that that stupid poll with only three names actually was one of each alignment??
agleaminranks (Wave Tennegan) voted MovingPictures07, who tapped into his power, targeting four adjacent names...and DrWilgy pulled one of those four off, leaving three.

How fun was that?

Was wondering why my ability was used when I didn't even use it. I should have looked at my own voting patterns and realized something was up when I voted for MP.

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