The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:04 pm**

I'm ok with a TSP Lynch. I just reread his posts, which didn't take long because they are almost all one line, and he doesn't feel civvie to me,

He came in several mafia days into the game, without any explanation, and just stated that he's obviously town--which, well, he isn't. Also, his early posts seem to not actually care about catching up with the game, but was feigning that--perhaps because he was getting a good review in BTSC.

I don't have time to fully think this through right now. But I'll be on tonight.

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:57 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:34 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 2:44 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 1:48 pm I did not read nor care about the contents of the ost
OK...

What have you read, and what do you care about?
punctuation, fun, and how passive aggressive it is

Given that I'm voting for you, I'd say the passive bit is just me being polite.

What have you done that you'd categorize as towny?

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:09 pm**

@Cape90 Are you planning on contributing this RD?

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:29 pm**

LoRab wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:04 pm I'm ok with a TSP Lynch. I just reread his posts, which didn't take long because they are almost all one line, and he doesn't feel civvie to me,

He came in several mafia days into the game, without any explanation, and just stated that he's obviously town--which, well, he isn't. Also, his early posts seem to not actually care about catching up with the game, but was feigning that--perhaps because he was getting a good review in BTSC.

I don't have time to fully think this through right now. But I'll be on tonight.

really don't like this post it feels slimey

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:50 pm**

LoRab wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:04 pm I'm ok with a TSP Lynch. I just reread his posts, which didn't take long because they are almost all one line, and he doesn't feel civvie to me,

He came in several mafia days into the game, without any explanation, and just stated that he's obviously town--which, well, he isn't. Also, his early posts seem to not actually care about catching up with the game, but was feigning that--perhaps because he was getting a good review in BTSC.

I don't have time to fully think this through right now. But I'll be on tonight.

wolf

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:50 pm**

oh no nutella mindmeld

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:51 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:57 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:34 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 2:44 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 1:48 pm I did not read nor care about the contents of the ost
OK...

What have you read, and what do you care about?
punctuation, fun, and how passive aggressive it is

Given that I'm voting for you, I'd say the passive bit is just me being polite.

What have you done that you'd categorize as towny?

not been here, didn't care

wolfy thing would be the wolf read on you from your pov which I don't usually mess up and I kinda actually still don't believe that I did but you've been towny today and people are acting like you got sheep so I'm inclined to trust them

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:53 pm**

look falcon I don't expect lorab here to necessarily be able to pull a convincing tsp meta read but I think you can probably count on one hand the number of times you have seen me skip an EOD as a wolf let alone multiple day phases and you can count on many many hands the number of times I've skipped day phases as town and yeah i promise to get better about it but while I'm here I'd actually kinda like to win this one and I'm going to use the unvarnished truth of the matter

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:53 pm**

I am THE EASIEST READ IN MAFIA

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:54 pm**

spf/lorab
spf/tsp
cape/tsp
cape/lorab??
spf/cape???

rolling these worlds around

taking falcon as town again for today and at this very moment leaning tsp town

wilgy is uhhhh idk

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:55 pm**

i can't really see spf town worlds though her singular focus on me is so antitown/counterproductive so

still my most preferred vote

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:57 pm**

wilgy i just don't know what to do with anymore. there are aspects of his play that i do associate more with his wolf game but just not sure he makes sense with sheep

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:01 pm**

fmpov ppl are being too chicken about voting spf but her approach to me is just not how she would behave as town

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:03 pm**

her arguments were reductive and convenient and lacking nuance, in our big back and forth about the robyn thing she just kept glossing over my perspective because it didn't fit her narrative. idk how else to make you guys see this but the more i think back to that conversation the more sure i am she's just mafia

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:04 pm**

there are some interactions that could pair tsp with her but he feels townie rn and lorab doesn't

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:05 pm**

but we should just get spf first and assuming there's a third figure that out after

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:06 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:50 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:04 pm I'm ok with a TSP Lynch. I just reread his posts, which didn't take long because they are almost all one line, and he doesn't feel civvie to me,

He came in several mafia days into the game, without any explanation, and just stated that he's obviously town--which, well, he isn't. Also, his early posts seem to not actually care about catching up with the game, but was feigning that--perhaps because he was getting a good review in BTSC.

I don't have time to fully think this through right now. But I'll be on tonight.
wolf

I also find that post quite wolfy & opportunistic

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:06 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:01 pm fmpov ppl are being too chicken about voting spf but her approach to me is just not how she would behave as town

Thoughts on Cape?

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:08 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:06 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:01 pm fmpov ppl are being too chicken about voting spf but her approach to me is just not how she would behave as town

Thoughts on Cape?

i have some concerns about him but don't really think he and spf make sense together and i'm pretty sure spf is wolf atp

the sheep interactions were bleh though tbh

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:28 pm**

Am I the only one who feel that spf v nut is T v T?

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:30 pm**

I'm still kinda on the 1 within the two but I am struggling to tell. - I say this on gut as this is uninformed. I've been kinda unplugged the last cycle and a half.

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:31 pm**

Cuz in my mind, if SPF is a wolf, her partner would save Sheep, and vice versa.

All it would've taken is a tie on nut & sheep's song, 1 vote, correct?

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:32 pm**

Like, part of me is like "it's SPF" as like one of the players who called sheep town has to be wolf.

The player that fits that criteria were like SPF and Cape.

SPF fits better than Cape if my memory is correct.

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:33 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:31 pm Cuz in my mind, if SPF is a wolf, her partner would save Sheep, and vice versa.

All it would've taken is a tie on nut & sheep's song, 1 vote, correct?

This is exactly why there has to be a wolf between them.

It's like Nut/SPF and TSP and Sheep otherwise it doesn't make sense for Sheep to have not had a tie partially keeping them safe.

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:35 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:33 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:31 pm Cuz in my mind, if SPF is a wolf, her partner would save Sheep, and vice versa.

All it would've taken is a tie on nut & sheep's song, 1 vote, correct?
This is exactly why there has to be a wolf between them.

It's like Nut/SPF and TSP and Sheep otherwise it doesn't make sense for Sheep to have not had a tie partially keeping them safe.

Ah, I am le' dumb

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:44 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:33 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:31 pm Cuz in my mind, if SPF is a wolf, her partner would save Sheep, and vice versa.

All it would've taken is a tie on nut & sheep's song, 1 vote, correct?
This is exactly why there has to be a wolf between them.

It's like Nut/SPF and TSP and Sheep otherwise it doesn't make sense for Sheep to have not had a tie partially keeping them safe.

Hmmmmm...OK, but then the 3rd either has to be TSP, or both the 2 remaining wolves are nut & spf together, OR the wolves let Sheep go

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:50 pm**

My darn internet man

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:57 pm**

I think TSP/Nutella for main POE and LoRab/SPF for secondary

LoRab would be in primary, however I found things towny yesterday about them

I have seen DrWilgy get traction. But I also think he is spewed town from Sheep.

Again Falcon is town

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:04 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:59 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:50 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:47 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 3:21 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:54 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:28 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:43 am

no it is showcasing my indecision (wilgy w btw)
i like this post (there's a thunderdome between wilgy & porscha now btw)
are you trying to force a thunderdome...

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:54 pm Also if you like both falcon and Porscha, wouldn't you discourage a thunderdome?

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:57 pm Wish I could say more about... anyone else but meh

[VOTE: staypositivefriend] aubergine

We need more people to wake up

Why do you follow up this pressure on Sheep w/ a vote for SPF?

This has never sat well w/ me
ohh right hmm

okay so it's probably one of cape or spf and not both

my poor ego if spf was town all along...

Given Porscha's flip, I think it looks good for Wilgy as well (assuming cape's Maf)

Because he's not mentioned here?

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:07 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:10 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 3:41 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:29 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:24 pm wilgy wanting to chop me solely for the purpose of resolving counterwagons?

classic scum wilgy
May I remind you that you are PoE and still feel like wolf Pyx?

I'd be more impressed that I haven't voted you yet and are considering you against Sheep and Cape.
This might be scum. But I don't wanna put this up based on effort
Are you calling Wilgy scum here?

Cuz later (not much later) you post this

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 3:48 pm It like... Felt like when TSP came into the game, they just started jumping around suspicions

Also started suspecting SPF/falcon which I think are 2 of the townier spots besides Wilgy at this point

Yeah it felt like a weird thing to say when I was of the opinion that pyxxy was much townier at that point then they were day 1

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:09 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:15 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:13 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:12 pm quick thought about mechanics: i think the optimal way to play this setup is to treat it like a normal mafia game, and simply do your best to figure out which person u want to vote out picked which song

this incentivizes t he wolfteam to choose songs that would be really hard to identify as coming from them, which is something im keeping in mind
You know, that is the problem I have with the setup though, it encourages play like this instead of what I imagine the intention is which is... you know, an actual fair battle of the bands thing going on, like we aren't incentivized to be honest with our votes when the time comes

This, much like Sheep's opinion on the 'spirit of the game', is an inherently wolfy perspective.

There is no way that Epi thought "I bet Town will turn off their cognitive reasoning, and rather than try to discern and consequently vote for whom they believe to be Maf, will simply select their fav song"

That would be illogical

Yeah maybe I was overthinking that and it was more about deducing who would pick out what song vs a literal popularity contest which makes sense

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:11 pm**

LoRab wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:04 pm I'm ok with a TSP Lynch. I just reread his posts, which didn't take long because they are almost all one line, and he doesn't feel civvie to me,

He came in several mafia days into the game, without any explanation, and just stated that he's obviously town--which, well, he isn't. Also, his early posts seem to not actually care about catching up with the game, but was feigning that--perhaps because he was getting a good review in BTSC.

I don't have time to fully think this through right now. But I'll be on tonight.

the fact you are shading him coming in with no explanation is sketchy to me...

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:12 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:29 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:04 pm I'm ok with a TSP Lynch. I just reread his posts, which didn't take long because they are almost all one line, and he doesn't feel civvie to me,

He came in several mafia days into the game, without any explanation, and just stated that he's obviously town--which, well, he isn't. Also, his early posts seem to not actually care about catching up with the game, but was feigning that--perhaps because he was getting a good review in BTSC.

I don't have time to fully think this through right now. But I'll be on tonight.
really don't like this post it feels slimey

mindmeld noted

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:15 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:03 pm her arguments were reductive and convenient and lacking nuance, in our big back and forth about the robyn thing she just kept glossing over my perspective because it didn't fit her narrative. idk how else to make you guys see this but the more i think back to that conversation the more sure i am she's just mafia

your omgus there continues to feel strange to me

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:17 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:33 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:31 pm Cuz in my mind, if SPF is a wolf, her partner would save Sheep, and vice versa.

All it would've taken is a tie on nut & sheep's song, 1 vote, correct?
This is exactly why there has to be a wolf between them.

It's like Nut/SPF and TSP and Sheep otherwise it doesn't make sense for Sheep to have not had a tie partially keeping them safe.

Yeah I agree with this take

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:43 pm**

Hmm...

Cape/Sheep/SPF makes sense.

TSP/Sheep/SPF makes sense.

LoRab/Sheep/SPF makes sense.

Nut/TSP/Sheep makes sense.

I think by merit of who can/can't be on a team with Nut, it just has to be SPF.

[VOTE: SPF] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:45 pm**

I think the order of likelihood for those pairings are:
TSP/SPF/Sheep
Cape/SPF/Sheep
Nut/TSP/Sheep
LoRab/SPF/Sheep

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:58 pm**

Simply put there's always 1 in Nut/SPF because of that there's always 1 in TSP/SPF

Because SPF and TSP are also teammate compatible, send these two and we solve the game.

If TSP flips town, Nut has no remaining players that can be teammates and it's SPF and one of Cape/LoRab

If TSP flips wolf, the solve is between Nut/SPF

If SPF flips town, the solve IS just TSP/Nut

If SPF flips wolf, the solve is between LoRab/Cape

I feel like background checking this would undermine it, bus as I'm typing this, I could bet the game on it.

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:26 pm**

at some point it became canon that preflipping like that is wolfy but I don’t think I mind the idea of it just yet

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:27 pm**

SPF takes advantage of nutella under pressure, some lower posters, and a TSP who subs in day 3 and will have no clue what’s going on to get the flip, doesn’t count on other nonsense happening, completely reasonable

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:28 pm**

Huh I wonder if there’s an easier way to solve this game

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:41 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:29 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:04 pm I'm ok with a TSP Lynch. I just reread his posts, which didn't take long because they are almost all one line, and he doesn't feel civvie to me,

He came in several mafia days into the game, without any explanation, and just stated that he's obviously town--which, well, he isn't. Also, his early posts seem to not actually care about catching up with the game, but was feigning that--perhaps because he was getting a good review in BTSC.

I don't have time to fully think this through right now. But I'll be on tonight.
really don't like this post it feels slimey

OK. So do you.

And can you say what about it feels slimey to you?

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:42 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:50 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:04 pm I'm ok with a TSP Lynch. I just reread his posts, which didn't take long because they are almost all one line, and he doesn't feel civvie to me,

He came in several mafia days into the game, without any explanation, and just stated that he's obviously town--which, well, he isn't. Also, his early posts seem to not actually care about catching up with the game, but was feigning that--perhaps because he was getting a good review in BTSC.

I don't have time to fully think this through right now. But I'll be on tonight.
wolf

Nope. Also OMGUS

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:44 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:51 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:57 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:34 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 2:44 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 1:48 pm I did not read nor care about the contents of the ost
OK...

What have you read, and what do you care about?
punctuation, fun, and how passive aggressive it is

Given that I'm voting for you, I'd say the passive bit is just me being polite.

What have you done that you'd categorize as towny?
not been here, didn't care

wolfy thing would be the wolf read on you from your pov which I don't usually mess up and I kinda actually still don't believe that I did but you've been towny today and people are acting like you got sheep so I'm inclined to trust them

So, you knew the game started and just didn’t give a shit? That does not feel civ to me.

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:46 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:06 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:50 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:04 pm I'm ok with a TSP Lynch. I just reread his posts, which didn't take long because they are almost all one line, and he doesn't feel civvie to me,

He came in several mafia days into the game, without any explanation, and just stated that he's obviously town--which, well, he isn't. Also, his early posts seem to not actually care about catching up with the game, but was feigning that--perhaps because he was getting a good review in BTSC.

I don't have time to fully think this through right now. But I'll be on tonight.
wolf
Since when is sharing thoughts non-civ? I mean, fine. But I’m still civ. And I’m more and more thinking TSP is not.

I also find that post quite wolfy & opportunistic

Posted: **Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:53 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:27 pm SPF takes advantage of nutella under pressure, some lower posters, and a TSP who subs in day 3 and will have no clue what’s going on to get the flip, doesn’t count on other nonsense happening, completely reasonable

Wait—what? You didn’t sub in. You just didn’t show up before that.

Posted: **Sat Jan 13, 2024 1:03 am**

Posted: **Sat Jan 13, 2024 1:03 am**

good point

Posted: **Sat Jan 13, 2024 1:03 am**

tsp has derp cleared himself stop voting for him

Posted: **Sat Jan 13, 2024 1:04 am**

LoRab wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:44 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:51 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:57 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:34 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 2:44 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 1:48 pm I did not read nor care about the contents of the ost
OK...

What have you read, and what do you care about?
punctuation, fun, and how passive aggressive it is

Given that I'm voting for you, I'd say the passive bit is just me being polite.

What have you done that you'd categorize as towny?
not been here, didn't care

wolfy thing would be the wolf read on you from your pov which I don't usually mess up and I kinda actually still don't believe that I did but you've been towny today and people are acting like you got sheep so I'm inclined to trust them
So, you knew the game started and just didn’t give a shit? That does not feel civ to me.

ok

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