Re: Kagemusha (D4)
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:11 am
Thanks for your careful consideration of things, sig, whatever you decide.
There clearly isn’t a solid town core.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:26 am You’re good at mafia explain to me why we’re sitting here on day 4 with a solid town core since day 2 and our PRs dead and no wolf flips
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:22 pmIs this Town falcon, trying to sort players on this do-or-die Day?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:12 pm [VOTE: lorab] aubergine @LoRab If you're town, come help us solve
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:21 amTranslation: "I need LoRab here to be present as my partner, not because I suspect her."falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:12 pm [VOTE: lorab] aubergine @LoRab If you're town, come help us solve
You could have easily voted me or sig for the same purpose.
No.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:24 pmLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:22 pmIs this Town falcon, trying to sort players on this do-or-die Day?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:12 pm [VOTE: lorab] aubergine @LoRab If you're town, come help us solve
Is this a rhetorical question?
I’m here now! Still catching up.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:12 pm [VOTE: lorab] aubergine @LoRab If you're town, come help us solve
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:32 pmNo.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:24 pmLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:22 pmIs this Town falcon, trying to sort players on this do-or-die Day?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:12 pm [VOTE: lorab] aubergine @LoRab If you're town, come help us solve
Is this a rhetorical question?
I mean, I could. And I probably have. And I appreciate the compliment. But that isn’t the case this game. I’m just a civ. Trying to figure this game out.Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:50 pmYour arguments of unpairing were good, I thought. She could still be bad. Lemme glance at her now.
I can't count her out. I didn't see anything in her ISO that's out of her Wolf range. Falcon/Lorab team with a little bit of distancing by Lorab? I am sure she knows that trick. Epi might be the patsy... he votes Lorab for Epi reasons and then falcon jumps on to distance, then Lorab turns it around with a light distance vote later on.
I could see it.
We are not. And if we lynch another civ, we certainly won’t. Ergo, don’t lynch me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:00 pm I mean that respectfully.
I have considered Long Con and LoRab as a possible team. If Epignosis is not mafia, I don't know what else it'd be. I'm also not sure it matters, because I don't see how we win this game regardless of who it is.
I have to provide the answer to my own question?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:38 pmLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:32 pmNo.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:24 pmLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:22 pmIs this Town falcon, trying to sort players on this do-or-die Day?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:12 pm [VOTE: lorab] aubergine @LoRab If you're town, come help us solve
Is this a rhetorical question?
What's your answer?
It would be more of a compliment if you were a Wolf who had done something I thought was out of your range. Conversely, if you, as Town had done something that really made me believe it.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:39 pmI mean, I could. And I probably have. And I appreciate the compliment. But that isn’t the case this game. I’m just a civ. Trying to figure this game out.Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:50 pmYour arguments of unpairing were good, I thought. She could still be bad. Lemme glance at her now.
I can't count her out. I didn't see anything in her ISO that's out of her Wolf range. Falcon/Lorab team with a little bit of distancing by Lorab? I am sure she knows that trick. Epi might be the patsy... he votes Lorab for Epi reasons and then falcon jumps on to distance, then Lorab turns it around with a light distance vote later on.
I could see it.
It isn’t.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:34 amThat would be so nice.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:32 am If the team is LoRab and falcon, then win or lose this is one of Long Con's finest hours as a civilian.
The root of the theory made sense. That doesn’t mean that you were right about the who, obviously.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:17 amConfusing moment to navigate with respect to the present conversation:LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:24 pmIt was partly your logic, and mostly his reaction to it.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:00 pmI don't care for it. I was surprised that she agreed with my rationale when it squarely implicated her, and she submitted to the vote with no resistance. I'm not sure how to interpret that right now from the standpoint of a falcon/LoRab team theory, but it makes me suspect LoRab more on her own.
Yes, it implicates me, because I’m a low poster in this game, but I know I’m not bad, and so it’s likely one of the other quieter posters. I’d say it’s likely a newer player, because newer players don’t always know how to kill strategically in games in general.
When I went on my bit about the DrWilgy kill blunder and what it meant, my first guess for the team was LoRab and falcon. Then she supported the theory. What do I do with that?
I meant in general, your appreciation for things I would do. And, in this case, have not.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:49 pmIt would be more of a compliment if you were a Wolf who had done something I thought was out of your range. Conversely, if you, as Town had done something that really made me believe it.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:39 pmI mean, I could. And I probably have. And I appreciate the compliment. But that isn’t the case this game. I’m just a civ. Trying to figure this game out.Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:50 pmYour arguments of unpairing were good, I thought. She could still be bad. Lemme glance at her now.
I can't count her out. I didn't see anything in her ISO that's out of her Wolf range. Falcon/Lorab team with a little bit of distancing by Lorab? I am sure she knows that trick. Epi might be the patsy... he votes Lorab for Epi reasons and then falcon jumps on to distance, then Lorab turns it around with a light distance vote later on.
I could see it.
There are many things about you that I would be happy to compliment, but your play this game is not deserving of one, unfortunately. If it were, then I would not be voting you.
I get that. But look at the lynches. They’ve been entirely wrong. Clearly what has appeared to be town core isn’t actually. Otherwise, we’d have lynched a baddie by now.
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:44 pmI have to provide the answer to my own question?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:38 pmLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:32 pmNo.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:24 pmLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:22 pmIs this Town falcon, trying to sort players on this do-or-die Day?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:12 pm [VOTE: lorab] aubergine @LoRab If you're town, come help us solve
Is this a rhetorical question?
What's your answer?
I'm quite sure that I've already made it perfectly clear what I think.
That is not a logical conclusion. That would only make sense if we had eliminated everyone but the town core and the game hadn't ended. That is not the case yet.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:08 pmI get that. But look at the lynches. They’ve been entirely wrong. Clearly what has appeared to be town core isn’t actually. Otherwise, we’d have lynched a baddie by now.
Doesn't matter. We eliminate Town, the game ends.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:15 pm And I am quickly losing motivation to defend myself. Because you are all clearly determined to lynch me. And I know I’m not bad. And I know that I’m unlikely to convince you all of that.
So, I’ll ask you 2 questions:
If I was off the table for this lynch, for whom would you be voting?
And
When you see that I flip civ, if somehow the game doesn’t end, who would you vote for next?
I ask, because that is the real topic to discuss. And I’m still very much undecided on where my vote should go.
Epi, maybe.
Jjj I don’t think is, but that would be masterful badness happening—and he is capable of that. But it isn’t my sense.
Sig, possibly
Falcon, possibly
LC I’ve gone back and forth on LC many times this game. It’s possible.
TSP, unlikely
But, yeah: please answer my questions. Thnx
Then answer the first question. Or, if you didnt want to eliminate town, and knew I was town, whom would you vote for?Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:27 pmDoesn't matter. We eliminate Town, the game ends.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:15 pm And I am quickly losing motivation to defend myself. Because you are all clearly determined to lynch me. And I know I’m not bad. And I know that I’m unlikely to convince you all of that.
So, I’ll ask you 2 questions:
If I was off the table for this lynch, for whom would you be voting?
And
When you see that I flip civ, if somehow the game doesn’t end, who would you vote for next?
I ask, because that is the real topic to discuss. And I’m still very much undecided on where my vote should go.
Epi, maybe.
Jjj I don’t think is, but that would be masterful badness happening—and he is capable of that. But it isn’t my sense.
Sig, possibly
Falcon, possibly
LC I’ve gone back and forth on LC many times this game. It’s possible.
TSP, unlikely
But, yeah: please answer my questions. Thnx
Someone has been steering the ship towards bad lynches, in my belief. So, it is logical.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:26 pmThat is not a logical conclusion. That would only make sense if we had eliminated everyone but the town core and the game hadn't ended. That is not the case yet.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:08 pmI get that. But look at the lynches. They’ve been entirely wrong. Clearly what has appeared to be town core isn’t actually. Otherwise, we’d have lynched a baddie by now.
You have voted twice, both times to eliminate a Civ.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:39 pmSomeone has been steering the ship towards bad lynches, in my belief. So, it is logical.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:26 pmThat is not a logical conclusion. That would only make sense if we had eliminated everyone but the town core and the game hadn't ended. That is not the case yet.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:08 pmI get that. But look at the lynches. They’ve been entirely wrong. Clearly what has appeared to be town core isn’t actually. Otherwise, we’d have lynched a baddie by now.
It is already public knowledge that I would eliminate falcon.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:38 pmThen answer the first question. Or, if you didnt want to eliminate town, and knew I was town, whom would you vote for?Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:27 pmDoesn't matter. We eliminate Town, the game ends.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:15 pm And I am quickly losing motivation to defend myself. Because you are all clearly determined to lynch me. And I know I’m not bad. And I know that I’m unlikely to convince you all of that.
So, I’ll ask you 2 questions:
If I was off the table for this lynch, for whom would you be voting?
And
When you see that I flip civ, if somehow the game doesn’t end, who would you vote for next?
I ask, because that is the real topic to discuss. And I’m still very much undecided on where my vote should go.
Epi, maybe.
Jjj I don’t think is, but that would be masterful badness happening—and he is capable of that. But it isn’t my sense.
Sig, possibly
Falcon, possibly
LC I’ve gone back and forth on LC many times this game. It’s possible.
TSP, unlikely
But, yeah: please answer my questions. Thnx
And you’ve voted 3 times to eliminate a civ….Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:07 pmYou have voted twice, both times to eliminate a Civ.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:39 pmSomeone has been steering the ship towards bad lynches, in my belief. So, it is logical.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:26 pmThat is not a logical conclusion. That would only make sense if we had eliminated everyone but the town core and the game hadn't ended. That is not the case yet.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:08 pmI get that. But look at the lynches. They’ve been entirely wrong. Clearly what has appeared to be town core isn’t actually. Otherwise, we’d have lynched a baddie by now.
LOL then I guess you should vote for me.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:15 pmAnd you’ve voted 3 times to eliminate a civ….Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:07 pmYou have voted twice, both times to eliminate a Civ.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:39 pmSomeone has been steering the ship towards bad lynches, in my belief. So, it is logical.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:26 pmThat is not a logical conclusion. That would only make sense if we had eliminated everyone but the town core and the game hadn't ended. That is not the case yet.
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:15 pm And I am quickly losing motivation to defend myself. Because you are all clearly determined to lynch me. And I know I’m not bad. And I know that I’m unlikely to convince you all of that.
So, I’ll ask you 2 questions:
If I was off the table for this lynch, for whom would you be voting?
And
When you see that I flip civ, if somehow the game doesn’t end, who would you vote for next?
I ask, because that is the real topic to discuss. And I’m still very much undecided on where my vote should go.
Epi, maybe.
Jjj I don’t think is, but that would be masterful badness happening—and he is capable of that. But it isn’t my sense.
Sig, possibly
Falcon, possibly
LC I’ve gone back and forth on LC many times this game. It’s possible.
TSP, unlikely
But, yeah: please answer my questions. Thnx
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:50 pmLoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:15 pm And I am quickly losing motivation to defend myself. Because you are all clearly determined to lynch me. And I know I’m not bad. And I know that I’m unlikely to convince you all of that.
So, I’ll ask you 2 questions:
If I was off the table for this lynch, for whom would you be voting?
And
When you see that I flip civ, if somehow the game doesn’t end, who would you vote for next?
I ask, because that is the real topic to discuss. And I’m still very much undecided on where my vote should go.
Epi, maybe.
Jjj I don’t think is, but that would be masterful badness happening—and he is capable of that. But it isn’t my sense.
Sig, possibly
Falcon, possibly
LC I’ve gone back and forth on LC many times this game. It’s possible.
TSP, unlikely
But, yeah: please answer my questions. Thnx
I hate this post, it’s just one massive word salad saying you could go in any direction.
Meaning it gives us basically nothing if you do flip mafia and allows you and your partner to pivot onto anyone that gets attention
And, sorry you don’t like the way I post or play. But I’m hoping you can answer my questions.sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:50 pmLoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:15 pm And I am quickly losing motivation to defend myself. Because you are all clearly determined to lynch me. And I know I’m not bad. And I know that I’m unlikely to convince you all of that.
So, I’ll ask you 2 questions:
If I was off the table for this lynch, for whom would you be voting?
And
When you see that I flip civ, if somehow the game doesn’t end, who would you vote for next?
I ask, because that is the real topic to discuss. And I’m still very much undecided on where my vote should go.
Epi, maybe.
Jjj I don’t think is, but that would be masterful badness happening—and he is capable of that. But it isn’t my sense.
Sig, possibly
Falcon, possibly
LC I’ve gone back and forth on LC many times this game. It’s possible.
TSP, unlikely
But, yeah: please answer my questions. Thnx
I hate this post, it’s just one massive word salad saying you could go in any direction.
Meaning it gives us basically nothing if you do flip mafia and allows you and your partner to pivot onto anyone that gets attention
At this exact moment? Falcon and epi.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:27 pm @LoRab if you had to choose just two suspects to be the mafia team, who would they be?
Stop being intentionally mean, you trust me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:51 pm Could easily flip back. I don’t actually trust anyone outside sig/Tony.
I don’t know what’s “mean” about that, but I had no such intention.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:57 pmStop being intentionally mean, you trust me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:51 pm Could easily flip back. I don’t actually trust anyone outside sig/Tony.
It’s more difficult to conceive of possible mafia agendas in his approach, and I have never questioned the authenticity. While you have had some strong moments too, it’s not quite the same.
MeanJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:04 pm sig being mafia would certainly explain why this game has been so miserable. I’d need someone to lay out a theory/case.