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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:28 pm
by 112
Holy shit- pawn's user id is 666

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:28 pm
by MacDougall
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:27 pm Also Colin did nothing in the lower level. If anyone here is scum it's likely him.
Nobody did anything in this level so by that logic everyone here is scum haha.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:30 pm
by 112
MacDougall wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:28 pm
112 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:27 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:22 pm
112 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:21 pm I vaguely remember being suspicious of Colin.
How come you didn't say anything yesterday yo?
I wasn't able to access the site. I was discharged from the hospital yesterday evening.
Are you okay mate?
No lol

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:31 pm
by 112
I got a pair of pillow paws tho so it's tight

The smiley faces are my comfort

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:38 pm
by Pawn Lelouch
112 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:27 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:22 pm
112 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:21 pm I vaguely remember being suspicious of Colin.
How come you didn't say anything yesterday yo?
I wasn't able to access the site. I was discharged from the hospital yesterday evening.
Oh fuck, are you okay?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:39 pm
by Pawn Lelouch
112 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:28 pm Holy shit- pawn's user id is 666
Yeah, Hyena mentioned it D1. It's great and I might want an appropriate avie at some point.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:40 pm
by Pawn Lelouch
MacDougall wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:28 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:27 pm Also Colin did nothing in the lower level. If anyone here is scum it's likely him.
Nobody did anything in this level so by that logic everyone here is scum haha.
Except y'all did stuff on D1 + D2 that left me with null/null+/town leans on all of you while Colin has done literally nothing all game to clear themselves.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:44 pm
by MacDougall
Pawn can you give us the cliffs of what occurred where you went?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:00 pm
by Pawn Lelouch
MacDougall wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:44 pm Pawn can you give us the cliffs of what occurred where you went?
Basically turned into a case where Eva was largely consider towncore, iaafr decided to iiafr (So basically cored Eva, repeatedly flipped on me and MR, and for a fairly large amount of time was pushing the theory that every syndicate regular was scum on two teams to explain all of the TMI he spotted being thrown around. I admit to feeding into this a bit, both because it was hilarious and because the 4 syndicate regulars there, Colin, Epi, Sprit, Dom, were my 4 lowest so use it until there was a miss sounded good to me), MR had tinfoil but largely matches reads with Eva, iaafr, and myself so floated around middle for most, Jack basically rose to everyone's middle after solidifying from bottom 3 for most players, Dom was hard bottom 3 fro everyone all day, and Sprit/Colin/Epi kinda just floated through the day.

Colin + Sprit were basically floater spots. Colin didn't exist while Sprit had decent individual posts but his ISO was extremely bleh. Epi kept on trying to push into iaafr + myself all day and he had fairly decent associative for attempting to powerwolf with Dom as an unfortunate associate imo.

So basically this is the readlist from my perspective.

{Eva, myself, iaafr}
{Jack, MR}
{Colin, Sprit}
{Dom, Epi}

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:01 pm
by Pawn Lelouch
Sorry about the delay and short length but also participating in the hydra games at the same time.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:04 pm
by 112
pawn looks p towny

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:11 pm
by 112
thought for sure i was gonna die during the night phase, but it seems something had different plans :o

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:14 pm
by MacDougall
112 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:04 pmpawn looks p towny
This.

Does anyone have any actual idea how to play this game? I don't even understand what really is happening... mechanics are not my jam.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:24 pm
by Pawn Lelouch
MacDougall wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:14 pm
112 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:04 pmpawn looks p towny
This.

Does anyone have any actual idea how to play this game? I don't even understand what really is happening... mechanics are not my jam.
Well the issue is we don't know what happens to people. Are they just brought up a level with multiple lives? Do they die? Etc. Me and Colin moving up here kinda lends credence to the brought up a level part imo which is strange and kind of leans towards this being a less of a kill based and just removing all the scum at the current bottom level before they reach there. Or just once it reaches the bottom, the remaining scum and town duke it out for who wins? My issue there is that all the people left behind don't matter there.

Is there anything important about the bottom level? There's too many pieces missing to fully put together a proper idea.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:28 pm
by 112
we should be able to deduce who died in the earlier nights, shouldn't we?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:39 pm
by MacDougall
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:14 pm
112 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:04 pmpawn looks p towny
This.

Does anyone have any actual idea how to play this game? I don't even understand what really is happening... mechanics are not my jam.
Well the issue is we don't know what happens to people. Are they just brought up a level with multiple lives? Do they die? Etc. Me and Colin moving up here kinda lends credence to the brought up a level part imo which is strange and kind of leans towards this being a less of a kill based and just removing all the scum at the current bottom level before they reach there. Or just once it reaches the bottom, the remaining scum and town duke it out for who wins? My issue there is that all the people left behind don't matter there.

Is there anything important about the bottom level? There's too many pieces missing to fully put together a proper idea.
Yes this is all too hard basket lol

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:03 am
by Pawn Lelouch
Just vote Colin up tbh.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:28 am
by 112
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:03 am Just vote Colin up tbh.
rather lynch mac tbh

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:51 am
by 112
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:44 am
by MacDougall
112 wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:28 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:03 am Just vote Colin up tbh.
rather lynch mac tbh
How bout no

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:44 am
by MacDougall
That no lynch option looks kinda spicy to me

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:34 am
by 112
MacDougall wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:44 am
112 wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:28 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:03 am Just vote Colin up tbh.
rather lynch mac tbh
How bout no
i'm honestly just a misunderstood accelerationist

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:39 am
by Michelle
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:00 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:44 pm Pawn can you give us the cliffs of what occurred where you went?
Basically turned into a case where Eva was largely consider towncore, iaafr decided to iiafr (So basically cored Eva, repeatedly flipped on me and MR, and for a fairly large amount of time was pushing the theory that every syndicate regular was scum on two teams to explain all of the TMI he spotted being thrown around. I admit to feeding into this a bit, both because it was hilarious and because the 4 syndicate regulars there, Colin, Epi, Sprit, Dom, were my 4 lowest so use it until there was a miss sounded good to me), MR had tinfoil but largely matches reads with Eva, iaafr, and myself so floated around middle for most, Jack basically rose to everyone's middle after solidifying from bottom 3 for most players, Dom was hard bottom 3 fro everyone all day, and Sprit/Colin/Epi kinda just floated through the day.

Colin + Sprit were basically floater spots. Colin didn't exist while Sprit had decent individual posts but his ISO was extremely bleh. Epi kept on trying to push into iaafr + myself all day and he had fairly decent associative for attempting to powerwolf with Dom as an unfortunate associate imo.

So basically this is the readlist from my perspective.

{Eva, myself, iaafr}
{Jack, MR}
{Colin, Sprit}
{Dom, Epi}
to better understand, all these were in the part of the game where you was in the previous day so you didn't returned to the main d1 thread?

I fully agree with your Dom read as mafia and Epi siding with him looks bad. I have a scum read for Elephant too but since i didn't see him lately idk what to do with it.
Also an idea about my previous scum lean on Quin, he didn't push someone and his attitude is relaxed so my oppinion changed, i'm pretty much convinced he's villager. But again, he is not here.

We have no inputs about any death after boo's lynch?
Is a blind spot here :/

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:25 am
by Michelle
MacDougall wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:44 am That no lynch option looks kinda spicy to me
why do you like it?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:25 am
by 112
Michelle wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:25 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:44 am That no lynch option looks kinda spicy to me
why do you like it?
asking the tough questions. have you considered taking up work as someone who asks questions like that?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:50 pm
by 112
[VOTE: ColinIsCool] aubergine

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:34 pm
by Michelle
112 wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:25 am
Michelle wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:25 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:44 am That no lynch option looks kinda spicy to me
why do you like it?
asking the tough questions. have you considered taking up work as someone who asks questions like that?
i didn't tbh. What kind of work should i do?
All previous day was a doing nothing day . This day is the same. No one has many things to say, the game is fragmented and i have little content for anyone.

i will came back in 10 hours.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:00 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
[mention]ColinIsCool[/mention] had been restricted from the thread by mistake. He now has access.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:06 pm
by ColinIsCool
Hello

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:06 pm
by Pawn Lelouch
Lol, that's kinda hilarious. Not much here but welcome Colin.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:12 pm
by ColinIsCool
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:28 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:27 pm Also Colin did nothing in the lower level. If anyone here is scum it's likely him.
Nobody did anything in this level so by that logic everyone here is scum haha.
Except y'all did stuff on D1 + D2 that left me with null/null+/town leans on all of you while Colin has done literally nothing all game to clear themselves.
I’m generally busy and subbed into this game mostly out of respect for our dear hosts. I’m reading everything available to me, digesting, and voting, but it’s a bit of a hard one for me to just run with. Sorry. :shrug:

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:15 pm
by ColinIsCool
Pawn, why didn’t you disclose the fact that you received considerable heat at one point near the end of the last phase?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:16 pm
by ColinIsCool
Maybe she changed her mind but at one point Evenstar was seriously gunning for you and I think Jack was too.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:17 pm
by ColinIsCool
There was a LOT of bitchy arguing in the other thread, by the way.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:18 pm
by ColinIsCool
I largely disagree too that people were suspicious of Epi (half and half at the absolute most) and I think people came around to iaafr but he spent a lot of time as a prime suspect because of how Epi interrogated him.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:20 pm
by ColinIsCool
Evenstar is considered mechanically cleared for some reason. Whoever died N1 was maybe-a-mason according to the new people and she was their strongest townread, I think? This is hard to do.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:21 pm
by ColinIsCool
Also somebody put forth a theory that iaafr is a town doublevoter based on a D1 no vote I think. Not sure if I believe it

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:22 pm
by Pawn Lelouch
ColinIsCool wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:16 pm Maybe she changed her mind but at one point Evenstar was seriously gunning for you and I think Jack was too.
Had the iaafr thing stated and frankly? Eva "pressuring" me didn't exactly worry me. I know how to explain myself in a way that gets her to like my process and thought lines easily. Idescribed the meta between us two as alternating between mason partners and at each others throats, I kind of needed to learn how too play around that. It's something I've seen in previous games with her before so she never really bothered me with it that day in terms of heat. Same with iaafr ultimately.

Jack was meh honestly. He'd been sussing me all day and like, I've dealt with much worse pressure, especially due to the rule of 3 diluting it. So I kinda just laughed at it.

Plus with myself, iaafr, Eva, and somewhat MR in a consolidated group from my perspective I never really felt any heat and wasn't actually worried about being voted up.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:23 pm
by ColinIsCool
Michelle, we did not return to the previous thread. We were in a third thread.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:25 pm
by ColinIsCool
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:22 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:16 pm Maybe she changed her mind but at one point Evenstar was seriously gunning for you and I think Jack was too.
Had the iaafr thing stated and frankly? Eva "pressuring" me didn't exactly worry me. I know how to explain myself in a way that gets her to like my process and thought lines easily. Idescribed the meta between us two as alternating between mason partners and at each others throats, I kind of needed to learn how too play around that. It's something I've seen in previous games with her before so she never really bothered me with it that day in terms of heat. Same with iaafr ultimately.

Jack was meh honestly. He'd been sussing me all day and like, I've dealt with much worse pressure, especially due to the rule of 3 diluting it. So I kinda just laughed at it.

Plus with myself, iaafr, Eva, and somewhat MR in a consolidated group from my perspective I never really felt any heat and wasn't actually worried about being voted up.
I’m surprised to hear that because it seemed at one point you were seriously frustrated by it. I could have been misreading the situation but it happened regardless so you leaving it out/putting yourself as a consensus top townread is, let’s go with, disquieting.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:26 pm
by ColinIsCool
Jay and Sloonei are laughing their asses off at this whole thing, watching me try to remember shit and shit.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:26 pm
by Pawn Lelouch
ColinIsCool wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:20 pm Evenstar is considered mechanically cleared for some reason. Whoever died N1 was maybe-a-mason according to the new people and she was their strongest townread, I think? This is hard to do.
Not actually mech but I went along with it to keep/get her town cored, same with the double voter iaafr thing. Both were already town cor for me, I just needed to get them as such for everyone else.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:27 pm
by Pawn Lelouch
ColinIsCool wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:25 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:22 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:16 pm Maybe she changed her mind but at one point Evenstar was seriously gunning for you and I think Jack was too.
Had the iaafr thing stated and frankly? Eva "pressuring" me didn't exactly worry me. I know how to explain myself in a way that gets her to like my process and thought lines easily. Idescribed the meta between us two as alternating between mason partners and at each others throats, I kind of needed to learn how too play around that. It's something I've seen in previous games with her before so she never really bothered me with it that day in terms of heat. Same with iaafr ultimately.

Jack was meh honestly. He'd been sussing me all day and like, I've dealt with much worse pressure, especially due to the rule of 3 diluting it. So I kinda just laughed at it.

Plus with myself, iaafr, Eva, and somewhat MR in a consolidated group from my perspective I never really felt any heat and wasn't actually worried about being voted up.
I’m surprised to hear that because it seemed at one point you were seriously frustrated by it. I could have been misreading the situation but it happened regardless so you leaving it out/putting yourself as a consensus top townread is, let’s go with, disquieting.
Nah, I was frustrated by having to put in effort and more importantly, putting it in from my phone. Not in the actual read from her.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:28 pm
by Pawn Lelouch
ColinIsCool wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:18 pm I largely disagree too that people were suspicious of Epi (half and half at the absolute most) and I think people came around to iaafr but he spent a lot of time as a prime suspect because of how Epi interrogated him.
Nah, he was in most bottom 3s. Just I was more expecting that him or Dom would have been voted out rather than you.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:37 pm
by ColinIsCool
It appears that Pawn and I, at best, remember things very differently. At worst they’re deliberately trying to mislead.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:39 pm
by ColinIsCool
LLD and Quin were both good lynch candidates but if one of those was a NK? Yeesh.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:43 pm
by ColinIsCool
To put my money where my mouth is I would say it looked more like (this is a spectrum)

Eva
iaafr
Master Radishes
Epi
Pawn Lelouch
Jack
Sprit
Colin
Dom

So not wholly dissimilar.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:45 pm
by ColinIsCool
MacDougall wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:44 am That no lynch option looks kinda spicy to me
Why come Mac?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:45 pm
by ColinIsCool
112 wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:50 pm [VOTE: ColinIsCool] aubergine
Why come 112?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:46 pm
by Pawn Lelouch
ColinIsCool wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:43 pm To put my money where my mouth is I would say it looked more like (this is a spectrum)

Eva
iaafr
Master Radishes
Epi
Pawn Lelouch
Jack
Sprit
Colin
Dom

So not wholly dissimilar.
Jack was higher than Epi and interchangeable with MR in terms of placement imo.