Bread Mafia [Game Over]

[MacDougall]

michelle is burning and the oven isn't even finished preheating

i mean i can sheep this but tbh i havent super hated her, i can see how you could be inclined to force this read given how towny everyone is being tho

[Made]

im trying to work out whether Made's POE is ever rational from any town ever and i just dont think that it is lol

this post removes you from my POE. thanks

[VOTE: LC] aubergine

[MacDougall]

tutuu's tone is very very different from any game i've played with her

not in a bad way - it's just notable to me that her mannerisms seem unique from what i'm used to seeing from her. i'm curious if that's an alignment thing or if she's changing her playstyle

seems pretty run of the mill tutuuu to me, whats ur current feelz here?

i think she's just town. her tone stood out to me because i hadn't seen her newer, more "serious" playstyle yet

but all of my locktowns townread her and i have zero reason to be concerned about her atm

good

[MacDougall]

im trying to work out whether Made's POE is ever rational from any town ever and i just dont think that it is lol

this post removes you from my POE. thanks

[VOTE: LC] aubergine

holy shit

but if you are town

the game is probably auto lmao

[MacDougall]

is it just like

Michelle, LC
+Grogu/DOO?

[staypositivefriend]

im trying to work out whether Made's POE is ever rational from any town ever and i just dont think that it is lol

this post removes you from my POE. thanks

[VOTE: LC] aubergine

what caused the change of heart?

[MacDougall]

I find Made to be the most innocent

Spoiler: show

Which probably means the aren't!

Wow and then this is the next post I read.

It's like the lord thy god in thine flesh exposed themselves to thou and thine hast through some form of osmosis become thy mafia god

tmi read, made was scummy as balls... this is mafia

[MacDougall]

im trying to work out whether Made's POE is ever rational from any town ever and i just dont think that it is lol

this post removes you from my POE. thanks

[VOTE: LC] aubergine

what caused the change of heart?

Made was enjoying my posting so much he was tinfoiling it, he now realises I am town because I annoyed him

[MacDougall]

I find Made to be the most innocent

Spoiler: show

Which probably means the aren't!

oh, there's probably a baddie in the anime avatar association

This is a wolfy ass post

I find Made to be the most innocent

Spoiler: show

Which probably means the aren't!

this read is basically twtbaf

I find Made to be the most innocent

Spoiler: show

Which probably means the aren't!

wolf pile for this one


game so easy

no friends I am afraid that le Daughter is le mafia that is le truth of le matter

[MacDougall]

Made's POE probably just has 3 mafia in it cuz of his perspective

[MacDougall]

marmot dude we gotta talk about this, you are allowed to balance the game by stacking the teams you dont have to live with the rng brah

[MacDougall]

both michelle and daughterofomega have given weird townreads of made that are out of tune with the rest of the thread


is that just the team lmao

no they both just spewed him town is all

[MacDougall]

I’m currently also TRing Michelle and omega

Not locked yet tho

i suspect this will not go down well my guy

[MacDougall]

I actually think Made is the highest scum equity player here because they can be scum in like every world but Michelle/Omega etc. have their scum equity reduced if Made isn't scum (becauase it doesn't make sense to pocket or TMI him in that situation)

nah u just wrong here, at least one of them literally did just TMI him... why do you think otherwise?

[MacDougall]

look im just gonna say it

mafia should just concede, not even joking... this game doesn't have to go any further...

in fact i suggest they should concede and then we just rerand it

[nutella]

mac is going through basically the same progressions/reactions as I did in real time. will be interesting to see if he ends up with the same changes in reads I had later on

[MacDougall]

i was actually gonna quit my catch up cuz im tiring of it but now i have to, thanks a lot nutella

[MacDougall]

Nutella is either Mafia or she's expressing her limp and sheepy side. I'm fine with either. I was afraid this game would get exhausting (albeit fun, but exhausting) really fast with so many aggro players that like being town leaders.

[MacDougall]

im just um

gonna sheep all the town stacking long con pre-emptively

[MacDougall]

if ur town and ur seeing spf as mafia on d1 u should reverse ur read no cap this works for me everytime

its very funny that i literally did this three pages ago

[MacDougall]

so if I have incorrect reads it's literally just one of jay/tutuu

[MacDougall]

What if I told you that I’m 4/4 reading Michelle

wait i missed what your read on her was? assuming town?

[MacDougall]

im sorry I am not going backwards in this catch up lol

[MacDougall]

damn its pretty lucky i decided to spew myself clear, if I didnt do this i probs would have actually got chopped for poe huh

[MacDougall]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME when you're obv town you usually have 1 or 2 really bad townreads that you get locked in on and it ends up biting you in the ass

can you just work out which ones those are so i can go home plz

[MacDougall]

400 posts and Mac hasn’t even graced us with his presence yet smh

nawww i heart u

[MacDougall]

nah tutuu and jay really just seem town here, y'all just town

[MacDougall]

I don’t think doo is that hard to understand tbh

its like all of your reads isnt it

[MacDougall]

oh tutuuuuuu were u like being super awesome deepwolf and then started powerwolfing and outed yourself because you realised you had to get some town killed otherwise your teammates would all die plz tell me u didnt do dat

[MacDougall]

yo, what is the difference between a scum alison and town alison? my experence of meta there is reading both as well reasoned and making sense....and i think she's well reasoned and making sense this game.

is logic not alignment indicative for her? and if it's not...does that just means she wins or...?

We sheep mac blame him if he’s wrong

bahaha ngl its probs y'allz only hope

but she is def town here

[MacDougall]

I'm surprised that everyone has nutella in their towncore. I'm not seeing it.

you caynt be srs

[MacDougall]

I won't even attempt to read Long Con I think I'm 0/6 on my attempts to read him or something like that.

he had made like no posts why are you even saying this?

also LC has fooled me perhaps once in 5 yrs so y'all fine here lol

[MacDougall]

p sure this game is gonna be like radiohead mafia where people start off being vaguely suspicious of me but then i claw my way into the towncore by helping to bury the mafia team

i'm peacing out for a bit, cya

yeah I sensed that so I hit fast forward homie

[MacDougall]

I'm surprised that everyone has nutella in their towncore. I'm not seeing it.

I'm not seeing any trace of scum nutella and several traces of town nutella. No offense to nutella, but I think I am good enough at reading her that she wouldn't be able to fool me continuously for so long without giving me the slightest hint that something's up.

Also she's basically committed to hard sheeping me. So if she is scum then she's forced to townside right now and we'll just make her bus all her teammates and then catch her once we've proven there's a deepwolf.

Okay, I will sheep you.

nutella's play feels to me like a person who is following the development of the game, seeing it coalesce around an early consensus, and doing her part to promote that. there's a certain energy in this thread right now, and not everyone has it. the ones that do have it are town reads.

i'm sure that's vague, but whatever

I'm going to be honest - I think that you're scummy Jimbo but the last time we played I tunneled you a lot and I was wrong so I'm afraid to say it in case I'm wrong again.

Tutuu bounces off trying to shade one obv town and jumps to the next. This is not good.

[MacDougall]

lol dude i know i can, you literally showed me how you play mafia. get fucked kid if youre mafia this game youre as good as toast

hi i'm qui gon jinn

[MacDougall]

i kinda dont even wanna scumread people here we can just win like this

[MacDougall]

lol dude i know i can, you literally showed me how you play mafia. get fucked kid if youre mafia this game youre as good as toast

lock town

probs your only bad take so far

[MacDougall]

K I’m locking in elli as town unless esooa is red in which case they’re probably partners

uh oh the takes are getting bad now

[MacDougall]

Ellie and DoO are getting like bad townreads out of noob pity here i feel lol

[MacDougall]

[snip]

I will just write my conclusion after going through her game again. Alison continuously gave out half-hearted evil reads, and was trying to push certain reads over and over, when the other players had already moved on from these posts. These reads don't seem to be coming from someone spending time actively thinking, and starting from a clean slate. From my perspective Alison has an agenda to try and find targets to call mafia, and less of a focus on solving.

i think that's just how alison solves, the takes weren't fabricated or anything imo, and not intentionally pushy

but i'm feeling more and more that this is a real opinion you have so aight

referring to shit like this

[MacDougall]

page 11... sigh

[MacDougall]

addressing suspects in the second person isn't always townie imo but it depends

if you're pretty committed to a suspicion, it's more productive to convince others rather than engage them directly

if you're doubtful/still sorting someone (which probably applies here tbf) it makes more sense to engage

so i see how you can have that but i think it's pretty situational and not like a reliable tell idk

hmmmm

[MacDougall]

you can town read Ellie for her posts but don't lock town her lol

awww cute u have pride in your padawan

[MacDougall]

Because you're gloating/rubbing it in. The whole way you played that was so fucking slimy and self-assured. You've been towncleared the whole game and you're getting cocky at endgame because you think you'll win. If nutella sees reason, you won't.

Mac is the opposite. He's genuinely upset, overwhelmed and having a breakdown. Frustration from missing a shot last night as wolf? Maybe, but the wolf team has to be in fine shape here if nutella is thinking of shooting me. I have a hard time imagining a wolf having a breakdown in this kind of way. It paints him as a manipulative player who's willing to fake the basest sort of emotion to gain sympathy by pretending he's hurting IRL, and that just makes people think badly of him and trust him less in future games for very little gain right now.

That is the difference between the actions between the two of you. Mac is town. You are scum.

exhibit A of 2nd person attacks

way to give nutella trauma

[MacDougall]

the fact that i'm ~not~ finding jagged towny is actually making me wonder if he is town. i mean this in the sense that i imagine jagged is similar to me when he rolls mafia - he probably plays w/the intention to get people to townread him and to put him in a good light

but he seems content with taking on a more passive, observational role and letting the momentum of the "towncore" move forward without him. i feel like jagged would most likely be making broader strides to be townread rn if he was scum, unless his partners had already integrated themselves into the towncore (which i doubt)

towny for jay, he would hate seeing that occur as mafia and be actively attempting to remedy it... he's probably just proud of his little townie friends and sitting back like a proud dad or some shit fuck you jay

[MacDougall]

you can town read Ellie for her posts but don't lock town her lol

I don't think it's within most players' scum range unless they're exceptionally good

insanely overexaggerated reaction to that post holy shit, that post wasn't even townie at all

[MacDougall]

I think the towncore is pretty watertight right now and I think JJJ would absolutely be freaking out if he was scum and his teammates weren't in the towncore. So yeah, I trust JJJ.

^ this

[MacDougall]

you can town read Ellie for her posts but don't lock town her lol

I don't think it's within most players' scum range unless they're exceptionally good

how?

aggression + ego cranked up way too high in way too short a span of time. The way mafia make aggressive posts is that they want to shout at you until you get off their back. Ellie's was just someone snapping andl ashing out in a very natural, instinctive way.

well I town read her for similar reasons in her first game and she was mafia

and in her second game she was town and actually less confident

so yeah

[VOTE: Ellie] aubergine

this will be valuable to remember later, this is never wolf on wolf crime

[MacDougall]

unless ur gaslighting them...

sorry y'all be we're pretty far from a towncore, and tbh it's a dangerous to imply otherwise

hmmm which of these towncore peeps are you actually cottoning onto made... i bet u have a deepwolf pegged dont u smart guy

[Alison]

jesus you quoted me like 12 times