The Syndicate

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:02 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:53 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:52 pm

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:34 am SD is talking like Bussing 1 teammate early in a game with 6 maf is something completely unreasonable, and trying to push that vote cred to the #Max, which is how Bussing wolves tend to act after bussing.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:30 pm You have not had plenty of townie things that out weigh the clearly bad stuff. And now you’re voting me instead of sleep? I don’t buy it. You are absolutely the last wolf here. The funny thing is you almost had me convinced of Wilgy being bad until this claim and now your vote.

If I had to choose a wolf here just based off these 2 messages in isolation, it would be Spacedaisy based on what they said in the bolded

To me the bolded kinda reeks of this wolfy looking opportunism

Or what you are seeing there is sincere frustration and knee jerk reaction to a vote that looks extremely bad to this townie. And the fact that the numbers and possible scenario has been laid out and Shen didn’t change their vote to sleep looks just as bad to me. But if you read on, you can clearly see that even though this vote looks like a very anti-town move, I am still looking for info and want to be open to being wrong here. But if I’m frank, Shen has made me really feel like they are wolf.

I think we should see what Wilgy does here and judge from there, because that should tell us something as well.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:11 pm Look at what I’m saying and doing here (take away you interpretation of “tone”) and look at what Shen is saying and doing. Which of us is acting like a civ in a F4 situation?

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:31 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:02 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:53 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:52 pm

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:34 am SD is talking like Bussing 1 teammate early in a game with 6 maf is something completely unreasonable, and trying to push that vote cred to the #Max, which is how Bussing wolves tend to act after bussing.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:30 pm You have not had plenty of townie things that out weigh the clearly bad stuff. And now you’re voting me instead of sleep? I don’t buy it. You are absolutely the last wolf here. The funny thing is you almost had me convinced of Wilgy being bad until this claim and now your vote.

If I had to choose a wolf here just based off these 2 messages in isolation, it would be Spacedaisy based on what they said in the bolded

To me the bolded kinda reeks of this wolfy looking opportunism

Or what you are seeing there is sincere frustration and knee jerk reaction to a vote that looks extremely bad to this townie. And the fact that the numbers and possible scenario has been laid out and Shen didn’t change their vote to sleep looks just as bad to me. But if you read on, you can clearly see that even though this vote looks like a very anti-town move, I am still looking for info and want to be open to being wrong here. But if I’m frank, Shen has made me really feel like they are wolf.

I think we should see what Wilgy does here and judge from there, because that should tell us something as well.

I agree it's anti-town yes, but that's not what you said, you said then Shen is absolutely the last wolf and that he almost convinced you it was Wigly. To me that second part looks like kinda hedgy

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:33 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:11 pm Look at what I’m saying and doing here (take away you interpretation of “tone”) and look at what Shen is saying and doing. Which of us is acting like a civ in a F4 situation?

To be honest, I really don't know, literally both of you have townpoints and things I would detract from you both. I think Shen has technically more townpoints, but voting you here instead of sleeping is not great to say the least

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:06 pm Question: is the wolf even allowed to no-kill? In IRL mafia that's never been allowed since then town and wolves could both get into a spot where making a kill (in day and night) would go against their wincon

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:33 pm So wilgy’s claim confirmed. That means either Cape is wolf or the wolf targeted Cape, which is what I really expected to happen. So yeah. Plus Cape could have moved the vote to me yesterday but they didn't. The only answer here is Shen is the last wolf.

[VOTE: Shen] aubergine

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:02 pm You don't have to be sorry, it happens, i misread 2 wolves too. I do think there were a lot of solid reasons to read me town, but I thought the same was true for Cape so lol-me

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:10 pm

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:02 pm You don't have to be sorry, it happens, i misread 2 wolves too. I do think there were a lot of solid reasons to read me town, but I thought the same was true for Cape so lol-me

There absolutely were a lot of reasons to read you town. It's why I wavered. I initially thought no kill pointed most to Cape until Wilgy's claim. I fully expected that the best kill for Wilgy or you if you were wolf would have been Cape and if Cape had been alive, I would have known immediately that Cape was the last wolf. So honestly, I think Wilgy's block hurt us more than helped us. but how could he know that?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:13 pm Frankly, I was just exhausted from fighting so hard here at the end, and when Wilgy was killed and Cape hadn't just voted me yesterday and ended it, I thought for sure the only possibility was you. So I just wanted to be done. I should have waited it out, I know.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:00 pm ::sigh:: I hate being in f3 so much. There was no reason not to vote me yesterday Cape, that just feels like torture.

I'm sorry Shen.

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:15 pm @Cape90 who did u put KP on the night that happened?

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:59 pm hindsight is 20/20, but i think it'd make the most sense to jail one of me/SD right? Since everyone in the game was clearing Cape, Cape was probably either dying or a wolf. So if you had jailed me or SD and Cape still dies, it's confirmed who the wolf is.

maybe my logic is faulty somewhere, but i feel like targetting Cape prevents a kill for sure, but gives 0 info

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:00 pm

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:59 pm hindsight is 20/20, but i think it'd make the most sense to jail one of me/SD right? Since everyone in the game was clearing Cape, Cape was probably either dying or a wolf. So if you had jailed me or SD and Cape still dies, it's confirmed who the wolf is.

maybe my logic is faulty somewhere, but i feel like targetting Cape prevents a kill for sure, but gives 0 info

He was probably trying to protect Cape

^^^^^During the night you can replace one player (of the alignment you drafted OR who has fewer than 10 posts per day) with another player (i will provide this player, don't talk about this publicly). They will play the following day, then be replaced by the original player the following night (example: brad drafts this ability and uses it on me n2. Mac subs in and plays d3. I sub back in on n3 (announced at sod4), and mac leaves the game).

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:03 pm No, I think your logic was sound there. It probably would have been better used on me.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:31 pm I obviously have no right to say what someone else should do when my snap vote lost us the game.