Re: Kagemusha (D4)
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:45 pm
We've followed the easy path every day.
0 for 3.
LoRab is the easy path.
0 for 3.
LoRab is the easy path.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:45 pm We've followed the easy path every day.
0 for 3.
LoRab is the easy path.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:44 pm @falcon45ca demonstrate that you care when you're not a wagon.
Yeah you don't care about who dies as long as it isn't your team. You're giving less than zero thought to any accusation you make. Falcon is a wolf.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:48 pmJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:45 pm We've followed the easy path every day.
0 for 3.
LoRab is the easy path.
Then let's do something hard
[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine
(I didn't even know you have kids)falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:49 pmJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:44 pm @falcon45ca demonstrate that you care when you're not a wagon.
Oh for sure, just give me a sec to tell my kids to fuck off on Easter, cuz I've got to play Maf
I just read through Epi ISO, and oof not as confident now.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:45 pm We've followed the easy path every day.
0 for 3.
LoRab is the easy path.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:49 pmYeah you don't care about who dies as long as it isn't your team. You're giving less than zero thought to any accusation you make. Falcon is a wolf.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:48 pmJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:45 pm We've followed the easy path every day.
0 for 3.
LoRab is the easy path.
Then let's do something hard
[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:50 pm (or remember that it's Easter)
(but clearly you're here right now so screw that ATE)
What are you doing on day 4 then?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:51 pm I came to play with the time I have available, and I'm greeted by several pings of yours telling me I'm doing nothing
I’m in the same boat here gut wise, but also my gut doesn’t think Falcon is bad either.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:52 pm I don't really give a crap if I look like LoRab's teammate.
We have to be right today or we lose. LoRab could be mafia. It's an easy argument to make. She was accused and said "no, not me". Mafia can say that. Civilians can too. It's irrelevant to me. I am forced to assess with pure gut, because the game offers no actual evidence. And my gut is not comfortable.
I think they're in LC's range as either alignment. I can understand why you would find them suspicious, but I also think it entails some confirmation bias.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:53 pmWhat are you doing on day 4 then?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:51 pm I came to play with the time I have available, and I'm greeted by several pings of yours telling me I'm doing nothing
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:36 pmHonestly, it’s mostly POE and players I more strongly believe is not bad.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:09 pmCan you point precisely to the behaviors of Epi and falcon that lead you to believe they're the most likely baddies?
With Epi, it’s mostly tone. He just doesn’t sound civ…even really busy and distracted , based on how I read his posts generally. Also, his at least tacit suspicion of both AS and Simon.
With Falcon, it’s still back to your case about the baddies made a bad kill.which, yes, was a reason for you to suspect me, and, also made sense conceptually. And, more than that—and the piece of what I said that seems to keep being missed, that his response to your posts about it did not feel like civ defense. And, thus, made me more suspicious of him. (Keep in mind, I read all pieces of that at once, and not in real time. So, I had already read his defense when I posted about him.
And also posts like this:
Read too Hello Fellow Civvies for me to not find themfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:12 pm [VOTE: lorab] aubergine @LoRab If you're town, come help us solve
this is how it often feels
We have just under four hours.
wtf does this mean
I don’t wanna come back and see 4 votes on Long Con and 2 votes on me
Does it also mean you want the votes to remain on the current wagons?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:07 pmI don’t wanna come back and see 4 votes on Long Con and 2 votes on me
Not getting me involved, rather the choice of words.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:02 pmLoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:36 pmHonestly, it’s mostly POE and players I more strongly believe is not bad.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:09 pmCan you point precisely to the behaviors of Epi and falcon that lead you to believe they're the most likely baddies?
With Epi, it’s mostly tone. He just doesn’t sound civ…even really busy and distracted , based on how I read his posts generally. Also, his at least tacit suspicion of both AS and Simon.
With Falcon, it’s still back to your case about the baddies made a bad kill.which, yes, was a reason for you to suspect me, and, also made sense conceptually. And, more than that—and the piece of what I said that seems to keep being missed, that his response to your posts about it did not feel like civ defense. And, thus, made me more suspicious of him. (Keep in mind, I read all pieces of that at once, and not in real time. So, I had already read his defense when I posted about him.
And also posts like this:
Read too Hello Fellow Civvies for me to not find themfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:12 pm [VOTE: lorab] aubergine @LoRab If you're town, come help us solve
Wait, are you saying it's wolfy of me to try and get you involved this RD?
IIRC, this is not the first time this game I've called you out on not being active, and I note that this time you didn't actually respond when I called you out, but rather when you became the lead wagon
It’s a different point in the game. I don’t trust him in the game, but we do not have the luxury of not focusing on mafia. Or focusing on not mafia.
Taketh not my name in vain.
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:17 pmIt’s a different point in the game. I don’t trust him in the game, but we do not have the luxury of not focusing on mafia. Or focusing on not mafia.
Also, individuals over theory…theoretically I never trust neutrals or indies, regardless of alignment. This has been true consistently since I don’t remember when Hero’s Mafia was on LP, but that game.
That said, not trusting a player/roll and their being the lynch priority are not the same thing.
This is a bit difficult to reconcile.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:26 pmAt this exact moment? Falcon and epi.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:27 pm @LoRab if you had to choose just two suspects to be the mafia team, who would they be?
But I’m not locked into either of those thoughts.
LC and Sig are my next tier.
And I don’t think you are bad, other than in my most tinfoil-y moments.
And tsp’s Indy claim, I’m willing to assume is legit.
You’re either wrong or you re lying. Either way, I’m civ.sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:05 pm Just did a read of Lorab and I’m once again back to the world where she’s mafia.
Overall her gameplay this game has been blendy, even when she vote typically includes what other people said for why they voted.
Today, which is the biggest issue for me, she left everyone up for a vote except Jay and TSP, claiming she believed TSP third party claim. This runs contradictory to her D1 view on independent thought so that’s a ping.
But, then again if she’s mafia I’d say that means her teammate is also active right now.
I doubt it’s falcon, I’m civ reading Jay, that would only leave LC which would work.
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:25 pmYou’re either wrong or you re lying. Either way, I’m civ.sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:05 pm Just did a read of Lorab and I’m once again back to the world where she’s mafia.
Overall her gameplay this game has been blendy, even when she vote typically includes what other people said for why they voted.
Today, which is the biggest issue for me, she left everyone up for a vote except Jay and TSP, claiming she believed TSP third party claim. This runs contradictory to her D1 view on independent thought so that’s a ping.
But, then again if she’s mafia I’d say that means her teammate is also active right now.
I doubt it’s falcon, I’m civ reading Jay, that would only leave LC which would work.
Please, show me a game where players on this forum didn’t suspect me for that. Because, that is not alignment indicative. And I just clarified my thoughts on Indy views.
Meanwhile, since I have nothing to lose now,. And in case there’s some weird thing and my lynch doesn’t end the game with the bad guys winning,I’ll share that you have become way more suspicious this round. You’re close in line for rising from orange to red. Evidence includes your clearly not really paying attention to details of the game.
And your apparent glee at the wagon against me.
It all makes sense to me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:21 pmLoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:17 pmIt’s a different point in the game. I don’t trust him in the game, but we do not have the luxury of not focusing on mafia. Or focusing on not mafia.
Also, individuals over theory…theoretically I never trust neutrals or indies, regardless of alignment. This has been true consistently since I don’t remember when Hero’s Mafia was on LP, but that game.
That said, not trusting a player/roll and their being the lynch priority are not the same thing.This is a bit difficult to reconcile.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:26 pmAt this exact moment? Falcon and epi.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:27 pm @LoRab if you had to choose just two suspects to be the mafia team, who would they be?
But I’m not locked into either of those thoughts.
LC and Sig are my next tier.
And I don’t think you are bad, other than in my most tinfoil-y moments.
And tsp’s Indy claim, I’m willing to assume is legit.
This may be an important thing. LoRab, when accused, has fully opened the POE pool (in a sense) by including sig as a suspect, and that has progressed. I don't actually think that is a suspicious thing for her to do in isolation. Indeed, that's kind of what I would expect from a civilian in her position. She would have a uniquely insightful view of the game by way of knowing LoRab isn't it. That tends to require considering more radical possibilities.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:25 pm You’re either wrong or you re lying. Either way, I’m civ.
Please, show me a game where players on this forum didn’t suspect me for that. Because, that is not alignment indicative. And I just clarified my thoughts on Indy views.
Meanwhile, since I have nothing to lose now,. And in case there’s some weird thing and my lynch doesn’t end the game with the bad guys winning,I’ll share that you have become way more suspicious this round. You’re close in line for rising from orange to red. Evidence includes your clearly not really paying attention to details of the game.
And your apparent glee at the wagon against me.
Thanks, and I kind of answered my own confusion after I posted that. I understand what you mean.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:29 pmIt all makes sense to me.
Basically, tsp is not my lynch priority. We don’t have luxury to lynch anyone who isn’t mafia. He’s not the priority. And so he’s on the back burner. Not trusting him doesn’t mean wanting to lynch him right now. We need to get a baddie. I don’t think he is a baddie, within the game set up.
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:09 pmNot getting me involved, rather the choice of words.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:02 pmLoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:36 pmHonestly, it’s mostly POE and players I more strongly believe is not bad.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:09 pmCan you point precisely to the behaviors of Epi and falcon that lead you to believe they're the most likely baddies?
With Epi, it’s mostly tone. He just doesn’t sound civ…even really busy and distracted , based on how I read his posts generally. Also, his at least tacit suspicion of both AS and Simon.
With Falcon, it’s still back to your case about the baddies made a bad kill.which, yes, was a reason for you to suspect me, and, also made sense conceptually. And, more than that—and the piece of what I said that seems to keep being missed, that his response to your posts about it did not feel like civ defense. And, thus, made me more suspicious of him. (Keep in mind, I read all pieces of that at once, and not in real time. So, I had already read his defense when I posted about him.
And also posts like this:
Read too Hello Fellow Civvies for me to not find themfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:12 pm [VOTE: lorab] aubergine @LoRab If you're town, come help us solve
Wait, are you saying it's wolfy of me to try and get you involved this RD?
IIRC, this is not the first time this game I've called you out on not being active, and I note that this time you didn't actually respond when I called you out, but rather when you became the lead wagon
And I literally have strep throat and slept most of Irl yesterday. I became active today because I was feeling better and so got back to game.
Which, if you actually read my posts, you’d know.