I am here today to clarify the "Info Dumping" rules. We have been getting some questions, and I would like to clear it up on day one.
We are trying to prevent statements like, "I am the cop, and I checked SVS last night and she is a wolf". Or "I'm a neighborizer and I have a neighborhood with the tracker and the watcher and they say Scotty is a wolf.". We built a fairly complex game, and this rule helps maintain balance.
We realize that banning info in game spaces can have the side effect of also disallowing fake claims, and, well, if there are no real claims, you don't need to make a fake one
* "I am town" is not a role claim
* "I am a Cop" *IS* a role claim.
* "I am going to kill you" is not a role claim
* I am going to kill you tonight" *IS* a role claim since it implies you have a night kill
Our other point is this; we are happy to answer questions and listen to complaints about this in Discord channels; I love listening to complaints. Please don't complain in thread.
We want everyone to have a good time, including us coming up with penalties and then having to actually use them is no fun for you or us. We are all super smart, successful Mafia champions (you have to be smart to play this game!). We can figure this out.
And again, if you have any concerns/complaints, please not in the thread. Thank You!
This is not an endorsement of QotSA, but this song was very thematic.
Oooo someone in the other threads in trouble
Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 1)
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:15 pm
by sig
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 10:45 pm
Anyway, I wonder if we're split randomly or if there's a balance in some way. In Severance, it was pretty clear that there'd likely be an even amount of wolves on both sides for the most part (although PRs were pretty skewed) but I'm not sure that holds up here.
I know this was answered, but I’d assume an equal or near equal amount of mafia in both threads and everything else is random.
If it’s multiball I’d say each team is split, but until we have some proof of that I’ll pretend it doesn’t exist
Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 1)
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:20 pm
by sig
I’ll add to the scrappy doo stuff some more.
As already said they were a sock third party. The owner lucy had some goal that I can’t remember now, but it did have voting power and could be killed.
Also falcon was on my team that game not TSP.
I like LC train of thought on the secret Santa thing, that seems very much within his town meta.
Epi is a gut town read.
I’m liking Abigail posts even though she’s creating a town core
I’m eyeing Daisy right now, her play style right now reminds me of muppets, where she was present but a bit flatflooted being mafia.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:27 pm
And here I was...
...rejoicing at not having to look at 81+ posts of cartoons that could get me arrested in some jurisdictions....
...only to realize I was looking at the wrong list of names.
Let’s be real this is the superior half of the game
Rip the east side they’ll probably have a million fluff posts and Gullio/Allison flaming each other over some nonsense (no offense when you eventually read this )
sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:20 pm
I’ll add to the scrappy doo stuff some more.
As already said they were a sock third party. The owner lucy had some goal that I can’t remember now, but it did have voting power and could be killed.
Also falcon was on my team that game not TSP.
I like LC train of thought on the secret Santa thing, that seems very much within his town meta.
Epi is a gut town read.
I’m liking Abigail posts even though she’s creating a town core
I’m eyeing Daisy right now, her play style right now reminds me of muppets, where she was present but a bit flatflooted being mafia.
I'm here to be towny and still drive you crazy
Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 1)
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:55 pm
by Long Con
Scrappy, tell us about yourself
Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 1)
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:08 pm
by Seanzie
[VOTE:
Falcon] aubergine
Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 1)
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:10 pm
by Long Con
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:08 pm[VOTE:
Falcon] aubergine
Based on his suspicion of you, for saying you would have to read and try?
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:08 pm[VOTE:
Falcon] aubergine
Based on his suspicion of you, for saying you would have to read and try?
No. I remembered that I found him sus D0. He doesn't have any of the sharpness that town!Falcon has. Town!Falcon will make plenty of fluffy posts, but will also interject with some pointed, mildly aggressive questions and observations. Scum!Falcon doesn't do that second part, and I didn't see any of that D0. Today, him voting me without pushing or real reason just corroborates this view.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:08 pm[VOTE:
Falcon] aubergine
Based on his suspicion of you, for saying you would have to read and try?
No. I remembered that I found him sus D0. He doesn't have any of the sharpness that town!Falcon has. Town!Falcon will make plenty of fluffy posts, but will also interject with some pointed, mildly aggressive questions and observations. Scum!Falcon doesn't do that second part, and I didn't see any of that D0. Today, him voting me without pushing or real reason just corroborates this view.
You said there weren't any players you had feelings about in this...side game? I don't know what to call where we are now
I also recall you stating N0 you found me wolfy
Why did you lie?
Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 1)
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:33 pm
by Scrappy Doo
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:55 pm
Scrappy, tell us about yourself
Dog
Bark
Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 1)
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:34 pm
by Long Con
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:00 pm
There’s a button here to call someone to unlock the case. The button doesn’t do anything. I found someone and she told me to go to customer service and they’d have to page someone. So I go to the customer service guy on the other side of the store and he says “well let me check who’s over there” and walks like a video game character you have to follow to complete a quest across the store to the automotive section, where he looks around and says “there’s no one here, I’ll have to go page someone”. Then he walks back to the customer service case at a pace that would make a snail blush and 10 minutes later I hear the announcement over the intercom, someone to I25. That was 10 minutes ago. I’m still here.
When I first read this, I thought you were writing some short fiction or something. I was hooked by the end of the second sentence, gets you right into the tension.
So how long did it finally take, and did you get it changed?
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:42 am
I suspect the other thread is lapping us in terms of post count.
Hmmmmm...do post count, or post quality matter more?
This feels like posting for the sake of posting
It sure is.
Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 1)
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:51 pm
by falcon45ca
Caitlin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 7:45 am
So for example, me taking the time to explain all that when I said I didnt have time and also didn't create content, was probably LAMIST
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:42 am
I suspect the other thread is lapping us in terms of post count.
Hmmmmm...do post count, or post quality matter more?
This feels like posting for the sake of posting
It sure is.
What's your motivation behind that speculation?
I had a thought, and then I converted that thought into finger movements over my keyboard. Then, I pressed "Submit." The whole process resulted in very mild amusement.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:08 pm[VOTE:
Falcon] aubergine
Based on his suspicion of you, for saying you would have to read and try?
No. I remembered that I found him sus D0. He doesn't have any of the sharpness that town!Falcon has. Town!Falcon will make plenty of fluffy posts, but will also interject with some pointed, mildly aggressive questions and observations. Scum!Falcon doesn't do that second part, and I didn't see any of that D0. Today, him voting me without pushing or real reason just corroborates this view.
You said there weren't any players you had feelings about in this...side game? I don't know what to call where we are now
I also recall you stating N0 you found me wolfy
Why did you lie?
I didn't lie, persay, when I made the first post, my initial sus of you had slipped my mind. That's the whole "I remembered" thing. I also realized Caitlin is in our group (I think?) so I was wrong on multiple accounts.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:23 pm
A teammate would be nice right about now.
Hate to use this term, but LAMIST
I suspect leetic and nutella have that advantage. Their Day 0 interaction was goofy and over the top. It was acting. Check it out.
Have you seen our interactions in Philosophy 2? That was nothing.
Unprompted, leetic brings up nutella in this thread by way of accusing me as though I can do jack shit about it. Acting.
You said I never suspected anyone, then I bring up someone I had openly suspected, and now you wanna play dumb?
Why use the term LAMIST if you dislike it, especially to describe a post that is borderline LAMIST?
Did you ask that pointed, mildly aggressive question just because of what Seanzie said?
Haha, no but the Beetlejuice irony is not lost on me
Yeah, pretty bang-on.
@Seanzie do you believe this shit?
I'm just watching for now.
Re: Game of Champions: West Facility (Day 1)
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:59 pm
by Long Con
Caitlin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 7:41 am
My friends are coming over today cuz it was my bday two days ago so I wont rlly be here today sorry
So do we all think the Secret Santa thing is positive? If so, any thoughts on me giving mine to Cape? I townread Cape & WWA the most on the other side and afaik WWA is a pretty controversial one making me lead towards giving it to Cape
I'd call this the right kind of reason to give someone a Secret Santa.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:08 pm[VOTE:
Falcon] aubergine
Based on his suspicion of you, for saying you would have to read and try?
No. I remembered that I found him sus D0. He doesn't have any of the sharpness that town!Falcon has. Town!Falcon will make plenty of fluffy posts, but will also interject with some pointed, mildly aggressive questions and observations. Scum!Falcon doesn't do that second part, and I didn't see any of that D0. Today, him voting me without pushing or real reason just corroborates this view.
Does it corroborate the first view though? "Voting without pushing or real reason" isn't the same as "doesn't interject with pointed, mildly aggressive etc." Right? But you are saying it does, and I just detect some level of fakeness going on here, both from the fact that falcon HAD asked such a question prior to this, and for the dodgy corroboration and general vibe.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:08 pm[VOTE:
Falcon] aubergine
Based on his suspicion of you, for saying you would have to read and try?
No. I remembered that I found him sus D0. He doesn't have any of the sharpness that town!Falcon has. Town!Falcon will make plenty of fluffy posts, but will also interject with some pointed, mildly aggressive questions and observations. Scum!Falcon doesn't do that second part, and I didn't see any of that D0. Today, him voting me without pushing or real reason just corroborates this view.
You said there weren't any players you had feelings about in this...side game? I don't know what to call where we are now
I also recall you stating N0 you found me wolfy
Why did you lie?
I didn't lie, persay, when I made the first post, my initial sus of you had slipped my mind. That's the whole "I remembered" thing. I also realized Caitlin is in our group (I think?) so I was wrong on multiple accounts.
I find it odd that you would be that absent minded
Town tend to have a lot more of a laser-like focus on their suspicions without any new info
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:08 pm[VOTE:
Falcon] aubergine
Based on his suspicion of you, for saying you would have to read and try?
No. I remembered that I found him sus D0. He doesn't have any of the sharpness that town!Falcon has. Town!Falcon will make plenty of fluffy posts, but will also interject with some pointed, mildly aggressive questions and observations. Scum!Falcon doesn't do that second part, and I didn't see any of that D0. Today, him voting me without pushing or real reason just corroborates this view.
Does it corroborate the first view though? "Voting without pushing or real reason" isn't the same as "doesn't interject with pointed, mildly aggressive etc." Right? But you are saying it does, and I just detect some level of fakeness going on here, both from the fact that falcon HAD asked such a question prior to this, and for the dodgy corroboration and general vibe.
[VOTE:
seanzie] aubergine
Let me know when you want to read the words I wrote without filling in things I didn't say. I found Falcon's D0 questionable. I found Falcon's vote on my questionable. I never said that Falcon's vote was exactly the same thing as Falcon's vote on me, but that the lackluster approach to the vote corroborated my earlier view.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:08 pm[VOTE:
Falcon] aubergine
Based on his suspicion of you, for saying you would have to read and try?
No. I remembered that I found him sus D0. He doesn't have any of the sharpness that town!Falcon has. Town!Falcon will make plenty of fluffy posts, but will also interject with some pointed, mildly aggressive questions and observations. Scum!Falcon doesn't do that second part, and I didn't see any of that D0. Today, him voting me without pushing or real reason just corroborates this view.
You said there weren't any players you had feelings about in this...side game? I don't know what to call where we are now
I also recall you stating N0 you found me wolfy
Why did you lie?
I didn't lie, persay, when I made the first post, my initial sus of you had slipped my mind. That's the whole "I remembered" thing. I also realized Caitlin is in our group (I think?) so I was wrong on multiple accounts.
I find it odd that you would be that absent minded
Town tend to have a lot more of a laser-like focus on their suspicions without any new info
What are your reads outside of my slot?
You're probably not realizing that I only reluctantly joined this game because... idk because mafia is hard to stay away from, and I'd rather not get too sucked into it since my IRL life and career seem to have an inverse relationship with how hard I play mafia.
I don't have any well-formed reads on anyone else. I don't even know what my read on your slot is right now.
I'm just watching for now.
Does it corroborate the first view though? "Voting without pushing or real reason" isn't the same as "doesn't interject with pointed, mildly aggressive etc." Right? But you are saying it does, and I just detect some level of fakeness going on here, both from the fact that falcon HAD asked such a question prior to this, and for the dodgy corroboration and general vibe.
coming up with penalties and then having to actually use them is no fun for you or us. We are all super smart, successful Mafia champions (you have to be smart to play this game!). We can figure this out. 
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