The Syndicate

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:46 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:32 pm That post implying Epi is town is pretty bad, can you explain if I get it right?
@sig do you town read Epignosis? and why?

I personally do not have enough posts to read Epi one way or the other, how about you?

No, i have no read rn

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:48 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:55 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:39 pm So far not much content.

Epi isn’t joking around D1 that’s a bit of a ping
Michelle is being active, but not in a towny way so that’s a slight ping.


Wilgy and Syn both get a town lean.

How would you describe/define Michelle's activity as not being towny?





It's one thing to say, but what does it actually mean

thats a lot of work for day 1.

She seems to be looking for reasons to vote people rather than trying to solve the game.

There’s also some tone reasons as well. I’m usually pretty good at reading her and here she just doesn’t seem very Civvie

What's the difference between a pressure vote and solving?
We didn't play enough to know how to read me tonally, so I don't understand this meta take here.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:51 pm My newest theory is that Michelle and Wilgy are mafia together.

It’s very odd how quickly Wilgy jumped on that read and then proceeded to vote for me.

And you think we are both so bad at the game that you figured things out so easy.

I honestly think he is town, as well as Brad and Long Con, and I liked Roxy as town lean as well.
These are people I am not going to vote toDay even if the reads are not solid yet.

Abigail didn't show any solving intent. My vote stays.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:01 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:59 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:51 pm My newest theory is that Michelle and Wilgy are mafia together.

It’s very odd how quickly Wilgy jumped on that read and then proceeded to vote for me.

hmm

This isn’t a good hmm so I’ll give you 2

I'm having trouble believing that AFTER I stated you are wolfy for expressing ideas already in the thread as your own takes, you do it again with Syn's take on Michelle and I and it's in good faith lol

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:04 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:46 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:32 pm That post implying Epi is town is pretty bad, can you explain if I get it right?
@sig do you town read Epignosis? and why?

I personally do not have enough posts to read Epi one way or the other, how about you?

No, i have no read rn

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:48 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:55 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:39 pm So far not much content.

Epi isn’t joking around D1 that’s a bit of a ping
Michelle is being active, but not in a towny way so that’s a slight ping.


Wilgy and Syn both get a town lean.

How would you describe/define Michelle's activity as not being towny?





It's one thing to say, but what does it actually mean

thats a lot of work for day 1.

She seems to be looking for reasons to vote people rather than trying to solve the game.

There’s also some tone reasons as well. I’m usually pretty good at reading her and here she just doesn’t seem very Civvie

What's the difference between a pressure vote and solving?
We didn't play enough to know how to read me tonally, so I don't understand this meta take here.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:51 pm My newest theory is that Michelle and Wilgy are mafia together.

It’s very odd how quickly Wilgy jumped on that read and then proceeded to vote for me.

And you think we are both so bad at the game that you figured things out so easy.

I honestly think he is town, as well as Brad and Long Con, and I liked Roxy as town lean as well.
These are people I am not going to vote toDay even if the reads are not solid yet.

Abigail didn't show any solving intent. My vote stays.

I 100% disagree that we haven’t played enough for this, also even ignoring that your response to a single person calling you mafia and not even pushing it is telling. You’re acting like mafia that was caught for a dumb/not real reason and is now annoyed.

Also the vote for Abi has some very weak reasoning.

@sig tell me about good and bad 'hmm'
What gives your takes?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:06 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:01 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:59 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:51 pm My newest theory is that Michelle and Wilgy are mafia together.

It’s very odd how quickly Wilgy jumped on that read and then proceeded to vote for me.

hmm

This isn’t a good hmm so I’ll give you 2

I'm having trouble believing that AFTER I stated you are wolfy for expressing ideas already in the thread as your own takes, you do it again with Syn's take on Michelle and I and it's in good faith lol

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:06 pm @sig tell me about good and bad 'hmm'
What gives your takes?

Wilgy is being mean to me and Syn isn’t

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:07 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:06 pm @sig tell me about good and bad 'hmm'
What gives your takes?

Wilgy is being mean to me and Syn isn’t

YEET!

Falcon, Long con, SVS, and Roxy are all town leans for me.

Falcon is being more active than I’d expect D1 mafia to be.
Long con and SVS are gut reads mainly.
Roxy has her civvie idgaf get out of my way vibe

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:06 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:04 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:46 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:32 pm That post implying Epi is town is pretty bad, can you explain if I get it right?
@sig do you town read Epignosis? and why?

I personally do not have enough posts to read Epi one way or the other, how about you?

No, i have no read rn

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:48 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:55 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:39 pm So far not much content.

Epi isn’t joking around D1 that’s a bit of a ping
Michelle is being active, but not in a towny way so that’s a slight ping.


Wilgy and Syn both get a town lean.

How would you describe/define Michelle's activity as not being towny?





It's one thing to say, but what does it actually mean

thats a lot of work for day 1.

She seems to be looking for reasons to vote people rather than trying to solve the game.

There’s also some tone reasons as well. I’m usually pretty good at reading her and here she just doesn’t seem very Civvie

What's the difference between a pressure vote and solving?
We didn't play enough to know how to read me tonally, so I don't understand this meta take here.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:51 pm My newest theory is that Michelle and Wilgy are mafia together.

It’s very odd how quickly Wilgy jumped on that read and then proceeded to vote for me.

And you think we are both so bad at the game that you figured things out so easy.

I honestly think he is town, as well as Brad and Long Con, and I liked Roxy as town lean as well.
These are people I am not going to vote toDay even if the reads are not solid yet.

Abigail didn't show any solving intent. My vote stays.

I 100% disagree that we haven’t played enough for this, also even ignoring that your response to a single person calling you mafia and not even pushing it is telling. You’re acting like mafia that was caught for a dumb/not real reason and is now annoyed.

Also the vote for Abi has some very weak reasoning.

You decide you know how to read me because?
You pretend I am acting like mafia, I want to read more about your thoughts.

I am never annoyed. I am just curious.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:08 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:07 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:06 pm @sig tell me about good and bad 'hmm'
What gives your takes?

Wilgy is being mean to me and Syn isn’t

YEET!

YEET! Into day 2 by leaving him alive?

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:09 pm Falcon, Long con, SVS, and Roxy are all town leans for me.

Falcon is being more active than I’d expect D1 mafia to be.
Long con and SVS are gut reads mainly.
Roxy has her civvie idgaf get out of my way vibe

Interesting, you agree with my reads except Wilgy.
Adding Falcon, who's alignament isn't showed by activity.
And SVS, who is a pretty scary wolf and and I have no idea why your gut is telling you she is a town lean.

Otoh, when you commit to a non lean read, pls ping me with it

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:01 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:00 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:49 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:49 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:59 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:35 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:03 am sig is bradna. Let's just vote him out already and get it over with.

Do it, then win the game for me so I can be in GoC

This isn't towny

This is silly




Why are you assuming Epi is town here?





Sure, it could just be D1 joking, but you post shortly after this there's not much content...so why add to the background D1 noise?

This is silly*

Is it?




Why isn't it wolfy?


[VOTE: sig] aubergine

I’m never gonna not fluff post so voting off a fluff post is silly.

Especially since I’m also producing content.

Also I very clearly say right before/after that Epi pinged me.

It reads as disingenuous to me, and it doesn't read like you're actually trying to solve Epi





And it doesn't seem like you're trying to solve me either, cuz my take is silly, not wolfy





Why am I not a wolf going at you?

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:07 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:06 pm @sig tell me about good and bad 'hmm'
What gives your takes?

Wilgy is being mean to me and Syn isn’t

That's a joke, right?

@sig did you explain why you said Epi can win the game for you? Link me the post, I didn't find it

@☆Princess Abigail☆ can you post your reads, please?

It's late for me, and I have to sleep.
I hope I will find some answers in the morning

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:04 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:51 pm My newest theory is that Michelle and Wilgy are mafia together.

It’s very odd how quickly Wilgy jumped on that read and then proceeded to vote for me.

And you think we are both so bad at the game that you figured things out so easy.

I honestly think he is town, as well as Brad and Long Con, and I liked Roxy as town lean as well.
These are people I am not going to vote toDay even if the reads are not solid yet.

Abigail didn't show any solving intent. My vote stays.

wolfy use of honestly, honestly

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:27 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:17 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:36 am ☆Princess Abigail☆ 3 Voters: falcon45ca, DrWilgy, Michelle

Now it looks better.
Mafia folklore says the first wagon of 3 voters always contain a wolf, including the voted player

Please discuss..

I tend to dislike truisms like this since invariably someone uses it to build an entire game strategy and we're still yeeting people on day three based on the first obvs jokey day one wagon, rather than based on peoples posts and in game behavior.

With only 12 players odds are OK that one of any random group of 4 is bad. Out of this group, meh. Town Wilgy could start a vote for silly reasons to gauge the reaction as town. Your vote seems specifically to start srs discussion, and I could see Falcon making a jokey vote as either alignment, so it's nai for him imo.

The only thing about it that catches me is Abbis reaction, and that Abbi isn't here right now (like literally right now, 5 AM eastern) taking this maybe a bit too seriously. But this is mostly reading into it on my part, so eh.

I didn't think Abbi was taking it very seriously at all. She... she ate their votes! And asked for more!!

I was saying that I would have expected her to take it maybe not seriously, but be more indignant maybe. Like she usually comes in early AM and flurry posts, and I was kinda expecting that. I saw that she was here when I popped in earlier, so looking forward to catching up.

I see I already replied to that lol.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:39 pm So far not much content.

Epi isn’t joking around D1 that’s a bit of a ping
Michelle is being active, but not in a towny way so that’s a slight ping.


Wilgy and Syn both get a town lean.

I'm catching up, so if you already answered this I missed it.

Your opinion re Michelle runs contrary to the thread vibe; can you be more specifiic?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:51 pm 12 player game
10 v 2

4 mischop game.

PoE of 5 that includes both wolves solves the game.

PoE [Abigail, Sig, Epi, Daisy, Falc]

Opinions?

If you say so Mr Someone Else, you're the maths guy.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:48 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:55 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:39 pm So far not much content.

Epi isn’t joking around D1 that’s a bit of a ping
Michelle is being active, but not in a towny way so that’s a slight ping.


Wilgy and Syn both get a town lean.

How would you describe/define Michelle's activity as not being towny?





It's one thing to say, but what does it actually mean

thats a lot of work for day 1.

She seems to be looking for reasons to vote people rather than trying to solve the game.

There’s also some tone reasons as well. I’m usually pretty good at reading her and here she just doesn’t seem very Civvie

You've seen bad Michelle, right? Do you think this looks like her?

Also seeing "civvie" makes my heart happy

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:07 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:06 pm @sig tell me about good and bad 'hmm'
What gives your takes?

Wilgy is being mean to me and Syn isn’t

This kinda reads town sig to me, though.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:14 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:09 pm Falcon, Long con, SVS, and Roxy are all town leans for me.

Falcon is being more active than I’d expect D1 mafia to be.
Long con and SVS are gut reads mainly.
Roxy has her civvie idgaf get out of my way vibe

Interesting, you agree with my reads except Wilgy.
Adding Falcon, who's alignament isn't showed by activity.
And SVS, who is a pretty scary wolf and and I have no idea why your gut is telling you she is a town lean.

Otoh, when you commit to a non lean read, pls ping me with it

Thanks I think?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:06 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:51 pm 12 player game
10 v 2

4 mischop game.

PoE of 5 that includes both wolves solves the game.

PoE [Abigail, Sig, Epi, Daisy, Falc]

Opinions?

If you say so Mr Someone Else, you're the maths guy.

Also in reply to the POE part; I don't understand why sig t/r Epi, have to hear more from Epi, I am not sure how I feel about Abbi, Daisy still has not posted? @Thunal33 can/did you ping Daisy in Discord?

I feel kinda better about Falcon; he's not just making remarks and being amusing. He's askign questions and trying to get things moving. Otherwise, yeah, I could be ok with this.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:38 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:35 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:34 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:28 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:19 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:16 pm So we're doing mountainous. What's the best way to approach day one of mountainous?

Lynch All Mafia








Same as every game dude

Sounds like a plan. Abby is due for a wolfin', you think?

Wasn’t she literally just mafia

Yes indeed she was.

Are you mafia? You can tell me I won’t tell anyone

I would tell you if I were. But I am not.

And look! Almost halfway through day one I have more posts than Abbi! Never thought this day would come

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:11 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:48 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:55 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:39 pm So far not much content.

Epi isn’t joking around D1 that’s a bit of a ping
Michelle is being active, but not in a towny way so that’s a slight ping.


Wilgy and Syn both get a town lean.

How would you describe/define Michelle's activity as not being towny?





It's one thing to say, but what does it actually mean

thats a lot of work for day 1.

She seems to be looking for reasons to vote people rather than trying to solve the game.

There’s also some tone reasons as well. I’m usually pretty good at reading her and here she just doesn’t seem very Civvie

You've seen bad Michelle, right? Do you think this looks like her?

That's the question I was going to ask, but I wasn't sure to whom. I have surely been in a Wolf Michelle game myself, but I don't remember. Long story short, this looks like town Michelle to me, but maybe her Wolf game is identical.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:12 pm Also seeing "civvie" makes my heart happy

Civvie forever!

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:06 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:04 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:46 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:32 pm That post implying Epi is town is pretty bad, can you explain if I get it right?
@sig do you town read Epignosis? and why?

I personally do not have enough posts to read Epi one way or the other, how about you?

No, i have no read rn

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:48 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:55 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:39 pm So far not much content.

Epi isn’t joking around D1 that’s a bit of a ping
Michelle is being active, but not in a towny way so that’s a slight ping.


Wilgy and Syn both get a town lean.

How would you describe/define Michelle's activity as not being towny?





It's one thing to say, but what does it actually mean

thats a lot of work for day 1.

She seems to be looking for reasons to vote people rather than trying to solve the game.

There’s also some tone reasons as well. I’m usually pretty good at reading her and here she just doesn’t seem very Civvie

What's the difference between a pressure vote and solving?
We didn't play enough to know how to read me tonally, so I don't understand this meta take here.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:51 pm My newest theory is that Michelle and Wilgy are mafia together.

It’s very odd how quickly Wilgy jumped on that read and then proceeded to vote for me.

And you think we are both so bad at the game that you figured things out so easy.

I honestly think he is town, as well as Brad and Long Con, and I liked Roxy as town lean as well.
These are people I am not going to vote toDay even if the reads are not solid yet.

Abigail didn't show any solving intent. My vote stays.

I 100% disagree that we haven’t played enough for this, also even ignoring that your response to a single person calling you mafia and not even pushing it is telling. You’re acting like mafia that was caught for a dumb/not real reason and is now annoyed.

Also the vote for Abi has some very weak reasoning.

I agree with this assessment of Wilgy's reaction. It doesn't look good.

Looking at sig/falcon, I like sig over falcon here. On one hand, falcon's got an aggressive expectation that sig's posts should be more wolf-paranoid, but it looks like a level 9 response to a couple of level 1 posts. Disproportionate. On the other hand, it might be just what Day 1 needs.

Wilgy, something is fishy with this.

I snipped some of the irrelevant parts of this quote out, for clarity.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:44 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:40 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:34 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:39 pm So far not much content.

Epi isn’t joking around D1 that’s a bit of a ping
Michelle is being active, but not in a towny way so that’s a slight ping.


Wilgy and Syn both get a town lean.

Damn, this is a wolf.

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

3/4 of these opinions aren't Sig certified thoughts tm.

Sig giving me a tl lmao

I'm not sure what constitutes "sig certified thoughts ™ " can you clarify what makes them not sig certified ™

3/4
Epi being wolf is an idea I threw out
Wilgy being town is an idea that Michelle threw out.
Syn being town is an idea that Brad threw out.

How do you resolve attacking sig for sheeping his t!Syn idea from Brad, calling him a wolf for it, but then:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:55 pm Brad and Sig both vouching for Syn is reason enough to pull from D1 PoE.

... you speak like your respect for these opinions is enough for you to change the Gameplan A PoE?

I hate LC's first post in that sequence but I love the last post

high five

I'll take that high five.

It's... not too lively in here. I keep coming back and just going over the last couple of pages. I'm getting nitpicky.

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:27 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:36 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:27 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:24 pm [VOTE: neon] aubergine





Someone tag Abi, and tell her she's been voted. Doesn't work on mobile for me

Don't the vote tags tag people? Maybe I just dreamed that.

@☆Princess Abigail☆

Sul sul!

I had a dream about you last night.

Spoiler: show

My boys were playing video games in our living room. So you and I plugged up an old SNES in my bedroom to play some old spacey shooter. Eloh came out of the bathroom and asked me why I wasn't more concerned with my blood pressure.

It was totally you playing video games with me.

this is funny - fyi @everyone

Roxy, I see DS9 in your player avatar...

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:20 pm Wilgy, something is fishy with this.

I snipped some of the irrelevant parts of this quote out, for clarity.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:44 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:40 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:34 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:39 pm So far not much content.

Epi isn’t joking around D1 that’s a bit of a ping
Michelle is being active, but not in a towny way so that’s a slight ping.


Wilgy and Syn both get a town lean.

Damn, this is a wolf.

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

3/4 of these opinions aren't Sig certified thoughts tm.

Sig giving me a tl lmao

I'm not sure what constitutes "sig certified thoughts ™ " can you clarify what makes them not sig certified ™

3/4
Epi being wolf is an idea I threw out
Wilgy being town is an idea that Michelle threw out.
Syn being town is an idea that Brad threw out.

How do you resolve attacking sig for sheeping his t!Syn idea from Brad, calling him a wolf for it, but then:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:55 pm Brad and Sig both vouching for Syn is reason enough to pull from D1 PoE.

... you speak like your respect for these opinions is enough for you to change the Gameplan A PoE?

So my issue was never with what Sig did or didn't disagree with, nor was it making reads on the backs of others as that's a natural thing to do.

It was very much declaring the reads as if they were fresh off the brain, when 3 out of the 4, then later 4 out of the 5 were all things stated previously. It all comes across as an effort to add to the thread but not in a way that feels organic. I do think if ANY of the thought process Sig had, that looked similar to others, were organic, they would've had some thought process behind them showing that they did originate from town logic within their head, OR that they came from other players and they were stances of agreement disagreement.

The quote of mine you pulled comes from my civ mind, based on two players voice and I did attempt my best to indicate where the thought originated from. Sig I think skipped that step.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:16 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:07 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:06 pm @sig tell me about good and bad 'hmm'
What gives your takes?

Wilgy is being mean to me and Syn isn’t

This kinda reads town sig to me, though.

lol implying wolf Sig wouldn't say this

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:18 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:06 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:04 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:46 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:32 pm That post implying Epi is town is pretty bad, can you explain if I get it right?
@sig do you town read Epignosis? and why?

I personally do not have enough posts to read Epi one way or the other, how about you?

No, i have no read rn

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:48 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:55 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:39 pm So far not much content.

Epi isn’t joking around D1 that’s a bit of a ping
Michelle is being active, but not in a towny way so that’s a slight ping.


Wilgy and Syn both get a town lean.

How would you describe/define Michelle's activity as not being towny?





It's one thing to say, but what does it actually mean

thats a lot of work for day 1.

She seems to be looking for reasons to vote people rather than trying to solve the game.

There’s also some tone reasons as well. I’m usually pretty good at reading her and here she just doesn’t seem very Civvie

What's the difference between a pressure vote and solving?
We didn't play enough to know how to read me tonally, so I don't understand this meta take here.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:51 pm My newest theory is that Michelle and Wilgy are mafia together.

It’s very odd how quickly Wilgy jumped on that read and then proceeded to vote for me.

And you think we are both so bad at the game that you figured things out so easy.

I honestly think he is town, as well as Brad and Long Con, and I liked Roxy as town lean as well.
These are people I am not going to vote toDay even if the reads are not solid yet.

Abigail didn't show any solving intent. My vote stays.

I 100% disagree that we haven’t played enough for this, also even ignoring that your response to a single person calling you mafia and not even pushing it is telling. You’re acting like mafia that was caught for a dumb/not real reason and is now annoyed.

Also the vote for Abi has some very weak reasoning.

I agree with this assessment of Wilgy's reaction. It doesn't look good.

why doesn't it look good? Just what I responded to already?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:28 pm I'll take that high five.

It's... not too lively in here. I keep coming back and just going over the last couple of pages. I'm getting nitpicky.

Yeah, it's kinda dead.

Was hoping I'd have more to pry to.

Don't think my initial reads have shifted much.

Epi not returning gives me no reason to move them.
Sig responding to my suspicion with ninja emoji doesn't give me much to work with.
Syn just kinda pushes and doesn't elaborate so there's not much there.

I just read all four pages and still don't understand where all the srsbsns started from. Also weird that someone said that Epi wasn't joking since he was having a playful convo with someone in the sim language.

I haven't played sims for years and years. So as far as theme, I probably won't be that fun. But I saw the player list looked fun and decided to jump in.

@Long Con, so you think my treatment of Sig was hypocritical and that seems to be the argument for why my vote doesn't feel right?

You prefer Sig over Falcon as if one has to be T and one has to be W in the argument you presented above. What level 9 responses are you seeing from Sig?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:01 pm I just read all four pages and still don't understand where all the srsbsns started from. Also weird that someone said that Epi wasn't joking since he was having a playful convo with someone in the sim language.

I haven't played sims for years and years. So as far as theme, I probably won't be that fun. But I saw the player list looked fun and decided to jump in.

Quite afew of us, (myself included) seem to have pushed us out of the random voting stage of the game. Reasons for voting have been supplied by players, some thin and some strong. That's very likely where the game feel comes from.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:02 pm @Long Con, so you think my treatment of Sig was hypocritical and that seems to be the argument for why my vote doesn't feel right?

You prefer Sig over Falcon as if one has to be T and one has to be W in the argument you presented above. What level 9 responses are you seeing from Sig?

I guess further @Long Con, since your Sig opinions seem to be in comparison to me and Falc, what's your Sig read in isolation? What do you think comes from a townie mindset if you think that?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:53 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:20 pm Wilgy, something is fishy with this.

I snipped some of the irrelevant parts of this quote out, for clarity.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:44 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:40 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:34 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:39 pm So far not much content.

Epi isn’t joking around D1 that’s a bit of a ping
Michelle is being active, but not in a towny way so that’s a slight ping.


Wilgy and Syn both get a town lean.

Damn, this is a wolf.

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

3/4 of these opinions aren't Sig certified thoughts tm.

Sig giving me a tl lmao

I'm not sure what constitutes "sig certified thoughts ™ " can you clarify what makes them not sig certified ™

3/4
Epi being wolf is an idea I threw out
Wilgy being town is an idea that Michelle threw out.
Syn being town is an idea that Brad threw out.

How do you resolve attacking sig for sheeping his t!Syn idea from Brad, calling him a wolf for it, but then:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:55 pm Brad and Sig both vouching for Syn is reason enough to pull from D1 PoE.

... you speak like your respect for these opinions is enough for you to change the Gameplan A PoE?

So my issue was never with what Sig did or didn't disagree with, nor was it making reads on the backs of others as that's a natural thing to do.

It was very much declaring the reads as if they were fresh off the brain, when 3 out of the 4, then later 4 out of the 5 were all things stated previously. It all comes across as an effort to add to the thread but not in a way that feels organic. I do think if ANY of the thought process Sig had, that looked similar to others, were organic, they would've had some thought process behind them showing that they did originate from town logic within their head, OR that they came from other players and they were stances of agreement disagreement.

The quote of mine you pulled comes from my civ mind, based on two players voice and I did attempt my best to indicate where the thought originated from. Sig I think skipped that step.

I don't feel like you addressed my issue with your posts.

Your true issue with sig isn't really a factor here. You called him a wolf for it, and complained about his Syn read. So.. it was quasi-counterfeit because Syn didn't give proper credit to his threadecessors, but it was true enough to reference as half the reason you changed your PoE?

First two paragraphs of your response are about how you are looking at sig, and why you called him a wolf. You could have said "sig is using AI to generate suspicions and I think he's a wolf for it" and I'd have the same questions about YOUR conduct.

Third paragraph is not easy to understand. "The quote of mine" - is that the second quote above, about D1 PoE? "Comes from my civ mind" reminds me of "my dessert stomach isn't full" or something. I'm not synced with the metaphor here. You indicated where which thought originated from? The thought of "Brad and sig like Syn, so remove him"? I don't see where that originated from, blah argh, honestly please just rewrite that last part if you don't mind, it's incomprehensible to me. I'm sorry.

I'm probably just too tired to understand what the heck everyone was saying to have reads at this point. I'd love to say I will go back tonight and figure it out, but I probably won't. I'm here for the fun and just too fucking tired today. I slept four hours and got up and went down to my brother's house to spend time with the niblings. Worth it though.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:05 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:02 pm @Long Con, so you think my treatment of Sig was hypocritical and that seems to be the argument for why my vote doesn't feel right?

You prefer Sig over Falcon as if one has to be T and one has to be W in the argument you presented above. What level 9 responses are you seeing from Sig?

I guess further @Long Con, since your Sig opinions seem to be in comparison to me and Falc, what's your Sig read in isolation? What do you think comes from a townie mindset if you think that?

I think sig looks towny, and it's because of his interactions with you and falcon, rather than in isolation from them: I think his progression on you is more reaction and less agenda, and I think his responses to falcon were good. I've read every sig post more than once, looking for a reason to suspect him, and I still put him on my townlist... that said, I'd have to go back to his ISO and specifically pick posts that don't involve you or falcon and see. I don't have any ready to reference offhand, but probably calling a lot of them AI would a little forced.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:06 pm I don't feel like you addressed my issue with your posts.

Your true issue with sig isn't really a factor here. You called him a wolf for it, and complained about his Syn read. So.. it was quasi-counterfeit because Syn didn't give proper credit to his threadecessors, but it was true enough to reference as half the reason you changed your PoE?

First two paragraphs of your response are about how you are looking at sig, and why you called him a wolf. You could have said "sig is using AI to generate suspicions and I think he's a wolf for it" and I'd have the same questions about YOUR conduct.

Third paragraph is not easy to understand. "The quote of mine" - is that the second quote above, about D1 PoE? "Comes from my civ mind" reminds me of "my dessert stomach isn't full" or something. I'm not synced with the metaphor here. You indicated where which thought originated from? The thought of "Brad and sig like Syn, so remove him"? I don't see where that originated from, blah argh, honestly please just rewrite that last part if you don't mind, it's incomprehensible to me. I'm sorry.

You've lost me my friend.

"it was quasi-counterfeit because Syn didn't give proper credit to his threadecessors, but it was true enough to reference as half the reason you changed your PoE" - I'm not sure what this means. my PoE was changed because two players in the game voiced a town read on a player within PoE. As I discussed with Roxy, If either are wolf, it reads of tmi which indicates Syn is town and should be pulled from PoE. If either are town, it implies that reading Syn as town is genuine and I can be wrong and should be pulled from PoE. I do not give a huge amount of weight to the reads individually, but give them weight as they were done in unison at this stage of the game.

"sig is using AI to generate suspicions and I think he's a wolf for it" - AI?

The quote of mine is:
"Brad and Sig both vouching for Syn is reason enough to pull from D1 PoE."
to which you responded:
... you speak like your respect for these opinions is enough for you to change the Gameplan A PoE?

SO my understanding is you have an argument of hypocrisy for me to base a PoE shift of Syn based on other voices, but argue Sig shouldn't be doing the same? In the 3rd response that you don't get, I'm elaborating that it's not the basing of others, it's the presentation of organic thought, and I detail where my conclusion of thought comes from, and where Sig's didn't feel that way to me.

Okay tried fully catching up but I saw Wilgy posting more paragraphs and I got bored and started posting.

Hello everyone.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:07 pm Worth it though.

Hell yeah!

This might be the first time LC and I are town together and can form the LC connection finally.