The Syndicate

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:51 am Michelle wisdom lime Sean are all villas

I am willing to agree with whoever said illario w

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:50 pm wisdom arguably spewed seanzie v with the "springing the trap" post sequence so I guess that could be why he died but that's such a weird kill, you always kill rondo first.

no lol.

you kill anne if she is town most of the time.

you kill seanzie if anne is mafia or if you are banking on Mac continuing to tunnel her.

not sure anyone here would bank on that so anne is probably just mafia lol.

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:51 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:51 am Michelle wisdom lime Sean are all villas

I am willing to agree with whoever said illario w

me too tbh

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:51 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:49 pm wisdom flipping red doesn't do anything for you on those slots? particularly anne?

of course it does

ok

so why is anne being grouped with LC still and why is LC your primary push still

Like I want to be clear here

I don't think that an LC push is neccessarily bad or that it isn't valid to view LC as the most sus player

but like

I think that they're pretty not partnered and naturally in sync with each other, and also that anne is pretty not partnered with wisdom from her end

why is that not factoring in for anne at least

inb4 it's anne/lc/illario lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:53 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:50 pm wisdom arguably spewed seanzie v with the "springing the trap" post sequence so I guess that could be why he died but that's such a weird kill, you always kill rondo first.

no lol.

you kill anne if she is town most of the time.

you kill seanzie if anne is mafia or if you are banking on Mac continuing to tunnel her.

not sure anyone here would bank on that so anne is probably just mafia lol.

I should probably made it more clear with "if your killing purely off of spew potential"

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:53 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:51 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:49 pm wisdom flipping red doesn't do anything for you on those slots? particularly anne?

of course it does

ok

so why is anne being grouped with LC still and why is LC your primary push still

Like I want to be clear here

I don't think that an LC push is neccessarily bad or that it isn't valid to view LC as the most sus player

but like

I think that they're pretty not partnered and naturally in sync with each other, and also that anne is pretty not partnered with wisdom from her end

why is that not factoring in for anne at least

It's factoring in some... just not enough.

I've been playing probably the best I've ever played lately and have a lot of confidence in my intuition. Anne just demonstrated as mafia that she can bus (draft spec game) with Apoc. She's not clear from voting well d1.

LC/Anne being partnered is entirely plausible for specifically the way those two play. Probably not the case but mafia is a game of probability.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:53 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:50 pm wisdom arguably spewed seanzie v with the "springing the trap" post sequence so I guess that could be why he died but that's such a weird kill, you always kill rondo first.

no lol.

you kill anne if she is town most of the time.

you kill seanzie if anne is mafia or if you are banking on Mac continuing to tunnel her.

not sure anyone here would bank on that so anne is probably just mafia lol.

Bruh why would I tunnel my partner there as mafia?

I mean you make a good point about me still being alive after that but maybe Seanzie was onto something that I wasn't. I'll read his ISO later.

one of LC/Anne not dying actually makes that pairing even more likely to have a wolf due to the pocketing possibility.

anne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:53 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:50 pm wisdom arguably spewed seanzie v with the "springing the trap" post sequence so I guess that could be why he died but that's such a weird kill, you always kill rondo first.

no lol.

you kill anne if she is town most of the time.

you kill seanzie if anne is mafia or if you are banking on Mac continuing to tunnel her.

not sure anyone here would bank on that so anne is probably just mafia lol.

Bruh why would I tunnel my partner there as mafia?

I mean you make a good point about me still being alive after that but maybe Seanzie was onto something that I wasn't. I'll read his ISO later.

why were you tunneling apoc?

Probably one on Wisdom one outside the main wagons and the other one can be anywhere but more likely also outside the main wagons.

and if LC is town then Nanook is almost always one

I wrote a whole post then accidentally backspaced and deleted it. *screams*

Anyways, I was gonna say I think Ilario is still V. I think the way he handled Wisdom isn't how w!Ilario treats partners. He would probably bus her hard because he is a very survivalist scum player who prioritizes his survival over partners.

So yeah, Ilario is town and maybe LC(?).

If we think there is really a difference check between Mac/Nanook/LC then Nanook is probably the mafia in that trio. Iirc Seanzie also had a scumread on Nanook too, so Seanzie dying if Nanook is mafia makes sense.

wilgy remains town fyi

probably one of the first to seriously sus michelle, and had a problem with illario listing them as a town lean in the 200s

I wrote a whole post then accidentally backspaced and deleted it. *screams*

Anyways, I was gonna say I think Ilario is still V. I think the way he handled Wisdom isn't how w!Ilario treats partners. He would probably bus her hard because he is a very survivalist scum player who prioritizes his survival over partners.

So yeah, Ilario is town and maybe LC(?).

If we think there is really a difference check between Mac/Nanook/LC then Nanook is probably the mafia in that trio. Iirc Seanzie also had a scumread on Nanook too, so Seanzie dying if Nanook is mafia makes sense.

AND NOW I POSTED THE SAME POST LIKE THREE TIMES

so some ideas like

anne/nook +1
lc/rej +1

worth exploring as team combos

anne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:00 pm I wrote a whole post then accidentally backspaced and deleted it. *screams*

Anyways, I was gonna say I think Ilario is still V. I think the way he handled Wisdom isn't how w!Ilario treats partners. He would probably bus her hard because he is a very survivalist scum player who prioritizes his survival over partners.

So yeah, Ilario is town and maybe LC(?).

If we think there is really a difference check between Mac/Nanook/LC then Nanook is probably the mafia in that trio. Iirc Seanzie also had a scumread on Nanook too, so Seanzie dying if Nanook is mafia makes sense.

worth noting that alexa has a "never sus illario as mafia" policy due to her believing illario would just sus her for not being right on him which I believe anne would probably also abide by

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:57 pm

anne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:53 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:50 pm wisdom arguably spewed seanzie v with the "springing the trap" post sequence so I guess that could be why he died but that's such a weird kill, you always kill rondo first.

no lol.

you kill anne if she is town most of the time.

you kill seanzie if anne is mafia or if you are banking on Mac continuing to tunnel her.

not sure anyone here would bank on that so anne is probably just mafia lol.

Bruh why would I tunnel my partner there as mafia?

I mean you make a good point about me still being alive after that but maybe Seanzie was onto something that I wasn't. I'll read his ISO later.

why were you tunneling apoc?

Because I felt like it. I honestly thought bussing that game was my biggest mistake. I'm not very good at bussing as mafia and even said after the game that I'd probably never bus Apoc again if in that situation.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:01 pm

anne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:00 pm I wrote a whole post then accidentally backspaced and deleted it. *screams*

Anyways, I was gonna say I think Ilario is still V. I think the way he handled Wisdom isn't how w!Ilario treats partners. He would probably bus her hard because he is a very survivalist scum player who prioritizes his survival over partners.

So yeah, Ilario is town and maybe LC(?).

If we think there is really a difference check between Mac/Nanook/LC then Nanook is probably the mafia in that trio. Iirc Seanzie also had a scumread on Nanook too, so Seanzie dying if Nanook is mafia makes sense.

worth noting that alexa has a "never sus illario as mafia" policy due to her believing illario would just sus her for not being right on him which I believe anne would probably also abide by

I'm a very good reader of Ilario tho. I've been correct on him in my past 4 games as town in a row. Idk how well Alexa reads Ilario, she's good at picking up his towntells but I can catch him as mafia.

anne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:01 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:57 pm

anne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:53 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:50 pm wisdom arguably spewed seanzie v with the "springing the trap" post sequence so I guess that could be why he died but that's such a weird kill, you always kill rondo first.

no lol.

you kill anne if she is town most of the time.

you kill seanzie if anne is mafia or if you are banking on Mac continuing to tunnel her.

not sure anyone here would bank on that so anne is probably just mafia lol.

Bruh why would I tunnel my partner there as mafia?

I mean you make a good point about me still being alive after that but maybe Seanzie was onto something that I wasn't. I'll read his ISO later.

why were you tunneling apoc?

Because I felt like it. I honestly thought bussing that game was my biggest mistake. I'm not very good at bussing as mafia and even said after the game that I'd probably never bus Apoc again if in that situation.

Okay so my answer to why you'd bus wisdom is because you felt like it

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:03 pm

anne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:01 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:57 pm

anne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:53 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:50 pm wisdom arguably spewed seanzie v with the "springing the trap" post sequence so I guess that could be why he died but that's such a weird kill, you always kill rondo first.

no lol.

you kill anne if she is town most of the time.

you kill seanzie if anne is mafia or if you are banking on Mac continuing to tunnel her.

not sure anyone here would bank on that so anne is probably just mafia lol.

Bruh why would I tunnel my partner there as mafia?

I mean you make a good point about me still being alive after that but maybe Seanzie was onto something that I wasn't. I'll read his ISO later.

why were you tunneling apoc?

Because I felt like it. I honestly thought bussing that game was my biggest mistake. I'm not very good at bussing as mafia and even said after the game that I'd probably never bus Apoc again if in that situation.

Okay so my answer to why you'd bus wisdom is because you felt like it

-_-

Good morning!

I read overnight only Wisdom's Iso and i want to prevent you that she played in antispew because she knew she will be suspected sooner or later (low activity and focus)

I find very odd the post regarding Anne's meta and my mistrust in Anne is even stronger. If her only push is Wisdom, it's very suspicious

RIP Guillo and Seanzie. And Porscha.
There is a reason for that shot, Porscha was towning up strongly and I will reread their Iso because there should be something.

I find interesting the check from Nanook who puts one mafia between himself, Mac and LC.
But if Nanook has like a cop check why died Porscha and not Nanook?
Or the wolves have an anticlaim mechanic who can kill who claims and they weren't sure of Nanook's role.

Anyway there is another problem, just one PR was discovered through eggs, and for sure Porscha was the one. How come Nanook has a that check?

I'm p sure it's not a cop check, just a difference check via gamestate reads

nanook doesn't actually have a check, he's saying that behvaior wise there's probably a mafia in there

Michelle, why did you vote me 2 minutes before eod and were you cognizant of how close teh votes were

Were you townreading LC at the time?

anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:52 am

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:49 am Btw Lime Coke are you the same lime as Limestone?

This post is so wtf

lol anne why is this bad

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:07 pm

anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:52 am

Wisdom wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:49 am Btw Lime Coke are you the same lime as Limestone?

This post is so wtf

lol anne why is this bad

I actually misread it initially as "time" as in same time zone as Limestone and thought it was weird.

anne wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:57 am Like she shows up, makes 25 posts and doesn't really offer any reads besides Guillo is town and then votes someone for a reason I can't discern. I'd like to think a townie would have more developed reasoning after 25 posts even if the reasoning isn't necessarily agreeable/good.

yeah I still don't think that anne comes in with the specific intent of bussing a wolf who had only been wolfread by Wilgy at this point, and had gotten TRs from Illario and Guillo

In my experience with wolf wisdom they die sooner rather than later, but still

This game had so much chaos I probably wouldn't have needed to ever bus Wisdom as mafia js

michelle, who looks good and bad from Wisdom's flip

anne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:09 pm This game had so much chaos I probably wouldn't have needed to ever bus Wisdom as mafia js

entirely possible you just thought LC would go over under the weight of the town voting him and never felt comfortable jumping to him to save wisdom you'd been level 1 distancing that 99% of mafia do that out themselves by trying to imply how weird that would be

by golly why would I ever as mafia do that thing all mafia do

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:11 pm

anne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:09 pm This game had so much chaos I probably wouldn't have needed to ever bus Wisdom as mafia js

entirely possible you just thought LC would go over under the weight of the town voting him and never felt comfortable jumping to him to save wisdom you'd been level 1 distancing that 99% of mafia do that out themselves by trying to imply how weird that would be

this is kinda just revisionist

wisdom had like 6 votes at a point and lc didn't crack 3/4 votes until like an hour before eod

tl;dr

at every point up until shortly before eod it looked like wisdom was the inevitible yeet

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:11 pm

anne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:09 pm This game had so much chaos I probably wouldn't have needed to ever bus Wisdom as mafia js

entirely possible you just thought LC would go over under the weight of the town voting him and never felt comfortable jumping to him to save wisdom you'd been level 1 distancing that 99% of mafia do that out themselves by trying to imply how weird that would be

this is kinda just revisionist

wisdom had like 6 votes at a point and lc didn't crack 3/4 votes until like an hour before eod

Anne is more than capable of defending herself superman

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:13 pm tl;dr

at every point up until shortly before eod it looked like wisdom was the inevitible yeet

ok so who tried to change that from occurring because theyre probably a wolf in most games

i honestly this is one of my towniest games ever

if mac can't see that then



jk, probably town because i am reforming.

peace and love <3

give me the name of 3 wolves plz

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:14 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:13 pm tl;dr

at every point up until shortly before eod it looked like wisdom was the inevitible yeet

ok so who tried to change that from occurring because theyre probably a wolf in most games

you, michelle, and dead town lmao

and scotty kinda

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:07 pm Michelle, why did you vote me 2 minutes before eod and were you cognizant of how close teh votes were

Were you townreading LC at the time?

The wagon formation showed pretty clear that one of Wis and Lime will be the chop, and I wanted to be outside wagons.

A better answer is, just because :shrug

You couldn't possible be affraid on this site like at MU of a late 2 mins before Eod vote, so what do you expect me to do? I didn't want Wisdom dead regrdless alignment. I also didn't want Lime dead, and for me to choose between the 2 was impossible.

Also if you would be a good wagon for wolves why didn't they jump on you for CFD?
A reason is, most of them were not present to make the wagon big enough, Wisdom was not there for sure, for eg.
And another reason is you may be a wolf as well.

And why Anne would bus? Because Wisdom said so is good enough for an answer?

porscha getting sparked like that when she was already apparently dying at eod anyway and had low presence is quite weird lol

i actually don't remember who tried to change it, just that you and michelle had similar "wisdom yeet is uselss bc nai" when i felt it applied more to nanook of the wagons

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:16 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:14 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:13 pm tl;dr

at every point up until shortly before eod it looked like wisdom was the inevitible yeet

ok so who tried to change that from occurring because theyre probably a wolf in most games

you, michelle, and dead town lmao

and scotty kinda

me? I didn't post at eod or anywhere close to it?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:16 pm give me the name of 3 wolves plz

Nanook / Scotty / falcon

That's where I'd look today personally.

Maybe 112 but that's because she hasn't done much. Would like to get a better read on the slot.

i didnt even notice porscha died omg

the anne/lc/wisdom world supposes that lc and anne planned to bus wisdom starting from around post 350, wisdom was cool with it, and decided that they were gonna call lc out for sheeping wisdom and having tonal problems or something

this only happens if wisdom tells scum chat that she wants to be bussed d1 and doesn't want to play

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:11 pm michelle, who looks good and bad from Wisdom's flip

I have to read to answer and is 3 am

My priority is to go back to sleep

Maybe townies will not madly post 20 pages until I can post again because in that case I will never catch up.

[VOTE: Anne] aubergine

For Wifom posting and all other already stated reasons