The Syndicate

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:32 am is it selfish if it comes down to syn vs lucy if i just sheep one of my townreads? maybe but i just. dont think id like to choose. i just know i will choose wrong

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:32 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:32 am is it selfish if it comes down to syn vs lucy if i just sheep one of my townreads? maybe but i just. dont think id like to choose. i just know i will choose wrong

porscha/cape tr me
rondo sr's me

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:35 am syn and le petit both come from the same community CFC so there's that

if pyxxy and syn are both town - is raskol still the n1 kill?

so one of pyxxy and syn is probably mafia

-10000 level thinking here but

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:36 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:35 am syn and le petit both come from the same community CFC so there's that

if pyxxy and syn are both town - is raskol still the n1 kill?

so one of pyxxy and syn is probably mafia

-10000 level thinking here but

really?

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:19 am 11v3
9v3
7v3
5v3
sleep
4v3

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:37 am

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:19 am 11v3
9v3
7v3
5v3
sleep
4v3

You missed the fact where the doctor dies, no sleep.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:37 am

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:36 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:35 am syn and le petit both come from the same community CFC so there's that

if pyxxy and syn are both town - is raskol still the n1 kill?

so one of pyxxy and syn is probably mafia

-10000 level thinking here but

really?

coming from the same community part? yeah

syn invited le petit to goc. but then syn got absorbed into the hydra abomination, and raskol thought syn ditched him

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:41 am it does feel pretty nice to stretch my legs. having a bit more posts for myself. can write a dumb shitpost or two. mmmm. *stretches legs*

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:46 am

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:00 pm Neon is not playing like they did in Cartomancy, and if I take their selfmeta description at face value, then they are more likely to be wolf than town, independently of anything I have said about them wrt Lucy.

i know that i am responding to a dead player but i wanna voice my take on this

i think neon is town, but bereft could be right that neon is mafia for this. i dont know. im not disproving his argument for neon specifically

independently of that though, i just know that, for me, cartomancy was ... some time ago. i dont remember

goc was a pretty long game. 22 days. everyone here played it. that was a whole marathon. plenty of time to adapt and change in some way, at least thats how it shaped up for me. might be relevant to @Syn and @Porscha

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:03 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:46 am

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:00 pm Neon is not playing like they did in Cartomancy, and if I take their selfmeta description at face value, then they are more likely to be wolf than town, independently of anything I have said about them wrt Lucy.

i know that i am responding to a dead player but i wanna voice my take on this

i think neon is town, but bereft could be right that neon is mafia for this. i dont know. im not disproving his argument for neon specifically

independently of that though, i just know that, for me, cartomancy was ... some time ago. i dont remember

goc was a pretty long game. 22 days. everyone here played it. that was a whole marathon. plenty of time to adapt and change in some way, at least thats how it shaped up for me. might be relevant to @Syn and @Porscha

Are you making waffles.

Like full disclosure. Carto is not a good way to read my town game but also I'm not as different from Carto as y'all are acting like I am.

My main thing in Carto was telling lucy I wouldn't blindly sheep them and doing my own thing without regard to others takes on it.

How am I different here?

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:05 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:01 am

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:57 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:56 am

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:55 am

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:10 am if we miss d2 then tomorrow it's me/syn cross again and mafia have more influence on the vote

us getting sorted today is optimal, i need to see worlds where syn is scum cause then i can start reading the game

syn scum=rondo town in all worlds, same with me/cape

@Porscha @tutuu

You can already see worlds where syn is scum

You yanking my chain here?

i’m biased as fuck and i know i am and i’m annoyed at that

I just dont quite understand why you're saying some things at all
Like you're just saying shit to say it
"Ah chop syn so I can see worlds where he is wolf" already kinda weird but ok, then
*proceeds to see worlds he is wolf* cool so then why do we have to chop him for you start seeing anything

because i'm fucking stuck and i'm basically forced into this cross between me and syn and i'm kind of forced to scumread him. it's not a fucking organic read, it's contrived as shit. instead here i am basically forced into seeing a world where someone who has done NOTHING in this game except me is scum, it's hard to say that he is with confidence or anything else. ideally after a flip or two i would see if he's been townsiding or wolf siding after that but i don't have the luxury and i'm forced to prematurely evaluate him

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:03 am How am I different here?

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:09 am

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:05 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:01 am

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:57 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:56 am

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:55 am

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:10 am if we miss d2 then tomorrow it's me/syn cross again and mafia have more influence on the vote

us getting sorted today is optimal, i need to see worlds where syn is scum cause then i can start reading the game

syn scum=rondo town in all worlds, same with me/cape

@Porscha @tutuu

You can already see worlds where syn is scum

You yanking my chain here?

i’m biased as fuck and i know i am and i’m annoyed at that

I just dont quite understand why you're saying some things at all
Like you're just saying shit to say it
"Ah chop syn so I can see worlds where he is wolf" already kinda weird but ok, then
*proceeds to see worlds he is wolf* cool so then why do we have to chop him for you start seeing anything

because i'm fucking stuck and i'm basically forced into this cross between me and syn and i'm kind of forced to scumread him. it's not a fucking organic read, it's contrived as shit. instead here i am basically forced into seeing a world where someone who has done NOTHING in this game except me is scum, it's hard to say that he is with confidence or anything else. ideally after a flip or two i would see if he's been townsiding or wolf siding after that but i don't have the luxury and i'm forced to prematurely evaluate him

an idea

what if lucy and syn are both town, and their playstyles are moon and day, and they dislike each other, and that's influencing themselves to scumread each other, when in reality they just dislike each other's gameplay

(i could be wrong, just an idea)

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:15 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:13 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:11 pm secondly and what's most important is that i am basically clear

this is because i was the most controversial player in d1 and my alignment ends up cracking the game open

therefore i am the most logical doctor option

because doctor is not dead that pretty clearly implies that i am town

rondo continuing to push me is just so fucking bad

Or doctor just didn't target you.

But anyways...

i find the "But anyways..." line scummy

earlier i scumread raskol for "???" (yea i know. im just saying whats going thru my mind)

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:16 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:13 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:11 pm secondly and what's most important is that i am basically clear

this is because i was the most controversial player in d1 and my alignment ends up cracking the game open

therefore i am the most logical doctor option

because doctor is not dead that pretty clearly implies that i am town

rondo continuing to push me is just so fucking bad

Or doctor just didn't target you.

But anyways...

i also somehow feel neon and lucy aren't w/w because of this post

would be impossible to explain this even if i tried

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:17 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:16 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:15 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:13 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:11 pm secondly and what's most important is that i am basically clear

this is because i was the most controversial player in d1 and my alignment ends up cracking the game open

therefore i am the most logical doctor option

because doctor is not dead that pretty clearly implies that i am town

rondo continuing to push me is just so fucking bad

Or doctor just didn't target you.

But anyways...

i find the "But anyways..." line scummy

earlier i scumread raskol for "???" (yea i know. im just saying whats going thru my mind)

If you read it with the intent to humble instead of distract I dont feel like it's weird
But is that the best way to read it? Unsure

good observation and it cements my townread on you

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:19 am if lucy is mafia i think her most likely partner is neon

i found more neon posts on page .... um.

page 31

that also seemed non w/w

so ill just take lucy as town

she can always be in wolf range but - what can u do. probabilities and all

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:10 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:19 am if lucy is mafia i think her most likely partner is neon

i found more neon posts on page .... um.

page 31

that also seemed non w/w

so ill just take lucy as town

she can always be in wolf range but - what can u do. probabilities and all

Wait... what is this trying to say

If Lucy is mafia it's with me

But me and Lucy are never aligned

I... don't understand this

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:04 am

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:03 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:46 am

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:00 pm Neon is not playing like they did in Cartomancy, and if I take their selfmeta description at face value, then they are more likely to be wolf than town, independently of anything I have said about them wrt Lucy.

i know that i am responding to a dead player but i wanna voice my take on this

i think neon is town, but bereft could be right that neon is mafia for this. i dont know. im not disproving his argument for neon specifically

independently of that though, i just know that, for me, cartomancy was ... some time ago. i dont remember

goc was a pretty long game. 22 days. everyone here played it. that was a whole marathon. plenty of time to adapt and change in some way, at least thats how it shaped up for me. might be relevant to @Syn and @Porscha

Are you making waffles.

Like full disclosure. Carto is not a good way to read my town game but also I'm not as different from Carto as y'all are acting like I am.

My main thing in Carto was telling lucy I wouldn't blindly sheep them and doing my own thing without regard to others takes on it.

How am I different here?

will you sheep me now, after seeing that game, goc and my other town games?

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:14 am tutuu feels town tonight

@Porscha @Neon @tutuu do u have a wigly read

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:15 am i think sheep is pretty similar to how he was while hydraing with me but i dont know him at all as scum

bereft said they're familiar. if bereft had a townread on sheep - it might be safe to townread sheep

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:12 am

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:10 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:19 am if lucy is mafia i think her most likely partner is neon

i found more neon posts on page .... um.

page 31

that also seemed non w/w

so ill just take lucy as town

she can always be in wolf range but - what can u do. probabilities and all

Wait... what is this trying to say

If Lucy is mafia it's with me

But me and Lucy are never aligned

I... don't understand this

u had an earlier post i thought was non w/w. then i thought if lucy is mafia it has to be with you. then i found more posts from u that i thought are non w/w

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:14 am tutuu feels town tonight

@Porscha @Neon @tutuu do u have a wigly read

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:15 am

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:14 am tutuu feels town tonight

@Porscha @Neon @tutuu do u have a wigly read

i will reevaluate him tomorrow

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:26 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:10 am

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:53 am It is perhaps helpful for me to state that sheep knows my main and their treatment of me is exactly what I would expect from them given our prior history. This explains whatever opinions people have had of Sheep's treatment of me specifically.

If you know sheep what is your personal take on them? Id like to bring them into town core but there have been a few things that made me pause

Probably town, inline with all expectations. They're also not hard to find as town independently anyways, so I expect they'll be deservedly townread as the game goes on if so.

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:15 am Yes. There are 0 worlds where I will ever fake that level of genuine upset upsetness at a teammate in a game of mafia... ever.

It was real. It was not theatre.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:16 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:13 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:11 pm secondly and what's most important is that i am basically clear

this is because i was the most controversial player in d1 and my alignment ends up cracking the game open

therefore i am the most logical doctor option

because doctor is not dead that pretty clearly implies that i am town

rondo continuing to push me is just so fucking bad

Or doctor just didn't target you.

But anyways...

i also somehow feel neon and lucy aren't w/w because of this post

would be impossible to explain this even if i tried

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:29 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:21 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:14 pm I'm too lazy to find an active player list but Porscha is basically lock town never rescind status based on play and I will die for her... still.

@Porscha helps me solve this game

Porscha thinks i'm town and thinks wigly is scum

what's your read on me as of now?

Same as yesterday. I'm extremely paranoid of your beginning to the game.

But I think you deserve space and that you feel like you're being honest and town in general...

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:56 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:55 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:49 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:38 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:36 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:30 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:29 pm

Same as yesterday. I'm extremely paranoid of your beginning to the game.

But I think you deserve space and that you feel like you're being honest and town in general...

what about reads for tutuu/cape?

Meh. I'll analyze them deeper today but I don't feel particularly strong either way.

Tutuu feels like the town Tutuu I've played with but that's easily fakeable meta read anyways

Cape...has gone back and forth in my head all day.

the direct consequence of this is that you basically townread all 3 of rondo's top scumreads correct?

separately what's your read of rondo?

Rondo is being Rondo. And he's being Rondo in the way that I've been repeatedly told is indicative of town rondo.

Rondo can be tunneled and wrong town. Or I can just be wrong on one of you 3 or all of you since I do have paranoia of all of you. Probably Tutuu the least honestly.

this post increases neons wolf equity a lot

True. I totally see how me having a TR on you regardless of your tunnel makes me a wolf.

Sheep wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:57 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:44 pm

Sheep wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:42 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:41 pm @Sheep are you an aopser?

yes

I'm one of the good ones though (haven't been banned from MU yet)

so bereft has a good read on you? (can u link 2 games where he's found you d1)

and what reads do you have, specifically on me/rondo/syn

oh
hm
wolfgames with schweppes
let's see
ah i found one
where
bereft (Osmium_)
said "Oh wait sheep (ad333) is a player in this game"
and then voted me next post
oh and then he didn't talk about me smh (https://artofproblemsolving.com/communi ... nation_frc) for reference
idt there's any more recnet aops games

gah
and there's only a turbo on MU
idk
just trust me

uh
I think you're town?
I think syn's null
Rondo's probably town but also still ignoring him and hoping he dies.

Sheep wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:57 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:44 pm

Sheep wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:42 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:41 pm @Sheep are you an aopser?

yes

I'm one of the good ones though (haven't been banned from MU yet)

so bereft has a good read on you? (can u link 2 games where he's found you d1)

and what reads do you have, specifically on me/rondo/syn

oh
hm
wolfgames with schweppes
let's see
ah i found one
where
bereft (Osmium_)
said "Oh wait sheep (ad333) is a player in this game"
and then voted me next post
oh and then he didn't talk about me smh (https://artofproblemsolving.com/communi ... nation_frc) for reference
idt there's any more recnet aops games

gah
and there's only a turbo on MU
idk
just trust me

uh
I think you're town?
I think syn's null
Rondo's probably town but also still ignoring him and hoping he dies.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:09 pm Seanzie needs a second assessment as the wagon being on Bereft instead of Lucy I think was mostly their doing.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:10 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:08 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:06 pm We need to solve in you/Syn and we should have yesterday.

very reasonable

If its so reasonable why did you shit the bed yesterday going full ATE when I tried to push you over and resolve? More wolf evidence that Lucy is all over the place trying to justify herself

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:55 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:29 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:21 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:14 pm I'm too lazy to find an active player list but Porscha is basically lock town never rescind status based on play and I will die for her... still.

@Porscha helps me solve this game

Porscha thinks i'm town and thinks wigly is scum

what's your read on me as of now?

Same as yesterday. I'm extremely paranoid of your beginning to the game.

But I think you deserve space and that you feel like you're being honest and town in general...

I don't like this.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:20 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:58 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:56 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:55 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:49 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:38 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:36 pm

Meh. I'll analyze them deeper today but I don't feel particularly strong either way.

Tutuu feels like the town Tutuu I've played with but that's easily fakeable meta read anyways

Cape...has gone back and forth in my head all day.

the direct consequence of this is that you basically townread all 3 of rondo's top scumreads correct?

separately what's your read of rondo?

Rondo is being Rondo. And he's being Rondo in the way that I've been repeatedly told is indicative of town rondo.

Rondo can be tunneled and wrong town. Or I can just be wrong on one of you 3 or all of you since I do have paranoia of all of you. Probably Tutuu the least honestly.

this post increases neons wolf equity a lot

True. I totally see how me having a TR on you regardless of your tunnel makes me a wolf.

or perhaps its more the fact that neon is trying to control perceptions in a game and not just meming and having a good time. You are making calculated posts with calculated statements. I see wolf play from you.

I'm playing the game to win? So I'm scum?

Nothing I've said has been calculated... though your general idea is accurate to my wolf game.

Anyways I'm having fun and memeing when there's opportunity... I'm just also playing the game lol

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:20 pm

Sheep wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:59 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:55 pm I've not been banned in MU...yet... but it's coming...

I dunno what an aopser is though so

AoPS is a math website that has a mafia forum that has played like 260 games total over the course of 15 years
really long phases
low postcounts
mostly newbies

Interesting. I hate math but that's chill I think.

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:38 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:37 pm i also wolf-read their refusal to vote

why is this wolf indicative

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:41 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:40 pm What's going on? I've not been paying attention, and I'll sheep the most reasonable gamestate explanation provided.




Cheers

Fixed.



Fuckin mobile

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:41 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:40 pm What's going on? I've not been paying attention, and I'll sheep the most reasonable gamestate explanation provided.




Cheers

Fixed.



Fuckin mobile