Fortune of Lies [Gameover Mafia Win)

[alexa]

with my limited shots rather than randomly checking someone i want to use it on those with ambiguous alignments that the town is split on readswise

i just don't get why you save shots knowing you're easily an early kill target? like im legit surprised you lasted til today

[alexa]

ya but you could die then we have no more checks???

esp when we now know it's literally a random doctor

i highly doubt that of all the tis i would be the one attacked

but why
you're a cop
lmao

[LinearPoint]

Honestly MM is confirmed as far as I see it, but yeah in the future you probably don't want to hold onto limited role uses as an outed Cop.
Like Alexa said you shots die with you and Cop is a powerful early game role even if you get a Town result it's still another confirmed person we don't need to worry about not trusting.

[NotAnAxehole]

also wdym "no one is necessary for me to check" ur literally a cop u just check whoever lmao

[MafiaMenace]

i got no idea why tf you tryna have me explain the strategy behind mafias nightkills
like tf kind of answer you want from me

[alexa]

well i'm obviously not voting you
but just in the future there's no reason to save your shots lol

[MafiaMenace]

Honestly MM is confirmed as far as I see it, but yeah in the future you probably don't want to hold onto limited role uses as an outed Cop.
Like Alexa said you shots die with you and Cop is a powerful early game role even if you get a Town result it's still another confirmed person we don't need to worry about not trusting.

a town check means nothing in a game this size and it only places a target on them
again its better used on someone with questionable alignment

[NotAnAxehole]

Anyway, there are no shortage of good checks in this game can all of the investigative roles please check people tonight?

[alexa]

NotAnAxehole: nothing mechanically clearing them, though i do gut TR this slot and they weirdly have a similar mindset to me despite being a troll
Ruri: claims ... cop giver? seems sketch
MafiaMenace: cop claim so should be "clear" but i had a weird dream and am slightly sketched by this slot. should be clear tho as sane cop.
Jackofhearts2005: random doctor claim
LinearPoint: very towny on play
Michelle: insane cop and TR, top town
Marmot: nada going for them
Paopan: lie detector who literally is so noob they apparently checked someone's claim from d1 who was already confirmed town?????
sig: idk
Son of Anarch: oracle, kind of sketch

[NotAnAxehole]

There are only 11 players left. Yesterday would have been a good night to check because we knew who the night targets would be (wilgy and mac) - wilgy being night immune and dying anyway is hilarious but yeah, perfect night for investigatives, no chance of your target dying in the night.

[alexa]

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[MafiaMenace]

why are you still trying to shoehorn the fact that you had a ‘dream’ that i was lying

[NotAnAxehole]

NotAnAxehole: nothing mechanically clearing them, though i do gut TR this slot and they weirdly have a similar mindset to me despite being a troll
Ruri: claims ... cop giver? seems sketch
MafiaMenace: cop claim so should be "clear" but i had a weird dream and am slightly sketched by this slot. should be clear tho as sane cop.
Jackofhearts2005: random doctor claim
LinearPoint: very towny on play
Michelle: insane cop and TR, top town
Marmot: nada going for them
Paopan: lie detector who literally is so noob they apparently checked someone's claim from d1 who was already confirmed town?????
sig: idk
Son of Anarch: oracle, kind of sketch

SoA is basically near-confirmed Oracle though yeah, the only question is whether they are mafia.

[LinearPoint]

Well a Town check confirms they are Town.
It's particularly really useful if say there were information roles we don't know the alignment of like a second Cop claim or Lie Detector.
For example of course, not saying that applies here.

If you think about it like this, confirming Michelle or Paopan as Town would mean we could trust their results, well if they had any I suppose.
Sure checking a random person might not be the best play, but you felt the need to check Scotty at random and that got information.
I don't see how night 2 would make you hesitate considering there were some pretty good Cop targets on the bored.

[alexa]

why are you still trying to shoehorn the fact that you had a ‘dream’ that i was lying

wtf does shoehorn mean

[MafiaMenace]

d1 wagons show that soa is town

[NotAnAxehole]

d1 wagons show that soa is town

Right, because Scotty?

[MafiaMenace]

why are you still trying to shoehorn the fact that you had a ‘dream’ that i was lying

wtf does shoehorn mean

forcing the inclusion of x thing

[MafiaMenace]

d1 wagons show that soa is town

Right, because Scotty?

because he didnt in the slightest try and start a counter wagon

[alexa]

why are you still trying to shoehorn the fact that you had a ‘dream’ that i was lying

wtf does shoehorn mean

forcing the inclusion of x thing

oh idk i guess because it was like a really eerie dream that is still in my mind lol
but like it doesn't even matter rn anyway

[Son of Anarch]

Whoever asked me earlier, I can confirm we had an intense rock, paper, scissors match in which we tied and then had to keep submittin' until someone won.

[alexa]

d1 wagons show that soa is town

how

[LinearPoint]

NotAnAxehole: nothing mechanically clearing them, though i do gut TR this slot and they weirdly have a similar mindset to me despite being a troll
Ruri: claims ... cop giver? seems sketch
MafiaMenace: cop claim so should be "clear" but i had a weird dream and am slightly sketched by this slot. should be clear tho as sane cop.
Jackofhearts2005: random doctor claim
LinearPoint: very towny on play
Michelle: insane cop and TR, top town
Marmot: nada going for them
Paopan: lie detector who literally is so noob they apparently checked someone's claim from d1 who was already confirmed town?????
sig: idk
Son of Anarch: oracle, kind of sketch

SoA is basically near-confirmed Oracle though yeah, the only question is whether they are mafia.

I honestly think SoA is solved by Jack's death.
A Doc being confirmed to an Oracle is a bit suspicious to me.
I feel like this implies SoA and Jack aren't the same alignment if either is Mafia. Of course Town Oracle seeing Town Doctor may still be a thing.

[alexa]

Whoever asked me earlier, I can confirm we had an intense rock, paper, scissors match in which we tied and then had to keep submittin' until someone won.

yeah ok but mightyQ was V so IDG why this makes you town.

[Son of Anarch]

Whoever asked me earlier, I can confirm we had an intense rock, paper, scissors match in which we tied and then had to keep submittin' until someone won.

yeah ok but mightyQ was V so IDG why this makes you town.

I never said it did, but someone asked me about it so I replied.

[Son of Anarch]

I wouldn't buss Scotty day 1 anyways. I thought his push on me was the most suspicious out of anyone.

[alexa]

but seriously what do people think of paopon checking falcon and getting a green result last night when he was already dead town

[Son of Anarch]

but seriously what do people think of paopon checking falcon and getting a green result last night when he was already dead town

I think that's hilarious no matter what his alignment is. Didn't he have the same report Scotty said he had? Or they checked the same person, right? Maybe Scotty stole Paopan's claim and Paopan claimed anyways without thinkin'.

[NotAnAxehole]

but seriously what do people think of paopon checking falcon and getting a green result last night when he was already dead town

I think he needs better friends, because if I was the mod I would never allow my friend to accidentally do that in their first game on site.

[LinearPoint]

Well if you look at the d1 votes.
3 people on Wiggly were confirmed Town at this point.
1 person on SoA was confirmed Mafia and 1 was 3rd Party Lyncheer.
If we assume Alexa is not a Mafia 1-Shot Vigilante then that leaves the only unknown on Wiggly's lynch Michelle. so Wiggly seemed to be a Town formed Wagon.
That implies the Mafia had no real interest in lynching Wiggly, but it seemed like the Mafia was wanting SoA dead.
If that was a bus or not is still unknown, but like I said Mafia willingly forcing SoA into a 50/50 with Wiggly is a bit risky.

[alexa]

but seriously what do people think of paopon checking falcon and getting a green result last night when he was already dead town

I think that's hilarious no matter what his alignment is. Didn't he have the same report Scotty said he had? Or they checked the same person, right? Maybe Scotty stole Paopan's claim and Paopan claimed anyways without thinkin'.

yeah that was day one, but i'm referring to what pao said today
i'm just surprised no one else has commented on it

[alexa]

pao is lock town though

[NotAnAxehole]

but seriously what do people think of paopon checking falcon and getting a green result last night when he was already dead town

I think that's hilarious no matter what his alignment is. Didn't he have the same report Scotty said he had? Or they checked the same person, right? Maybe Scotty stole Paopan's claim and Paopan claimed anyways without thinkin'.

Yeah paopan claiming the same stupid thing that Scotty did was really weird. It's really hard to tell if he's dumbtelling really hard, or just new and is struggling with communication & interface.

I think the latter is more likely.

[LinearPoint]

but seriously what do people think of paopon checking falcon and getting a green result last night when he was already dead town

I think that's hilarious no matter what his alignment is. Didn't he have the same report Scotty said he had? Or they checked the same person, right? Maybe Scotty stole Paopan's claim and Paopan claimed anyways without thinkin'.

yeah that was day one, but i'm referring to what pao said today
i'm just surprised no one else has commented on it

There was a brief discussion about it before.
I pointed out the possibility that Scotty just used Paopan's claim and Paopan claimed without reading possibly accidently ccing his own Mafia buddy.

[alexa]

Well if you look at the d1 votes.
3 people on Wiggly were confirmed Town at this point.
1 person on SoA was confirmed Mafia and 1 was 3rd Party Lyncheer.
If we assume Alexa is not a Mafia 1-Shot Vigilante then that leaves the only unknown on Wiggly's lynch Michelle. so Wiggly seemed to be a Town formed Wagon.
That implies the Mafia had no real interest in lynching Wiggly, but it seemed like the Mafia was wanting SoA dead.
If that was a bus or not is still unknown, but like I said Mafia willingly forcing SoA into a 50/50 with Wiggly is a bit risky.

huh

[alexa]

what were the wagons? i still struggle with this site

[LinearPoint]

OK, let me try that in a shorter way.
The Mafia were not trying to get Wiggly lynched. Most if not all that wagon was Town.
That means Mafia were either not voting or were pushing SoA making SoA less likely to be Mafia, but not impossible.

[alexa]

also IDG the last part

[NotAnAxehole]

what were the wagons? i still struggle with this site

Yeah, this site doesn't have a way to check historical voting, which is rough.

[alexa]

OK, let me try that in a shorter way.
The Mafia were not trying to get Wiggly lynched. Most if not all that wagon was Town.
That means Mafia were either not voting or were pushing SoA making SoA less likely to be Mafia, but not impossible.

the only mafia that's flipped is scotty though so how do you know what the mafia was doing

[LinearPoint]

SoA had me, Scotty, Sig, Wiggly, and NAA
MightgyQ had Alexa, MightyQ, LC, MM, and Michelle

[LinearPoint]

OK, let me try that in a shorter way.
The Mafia were not trying to get Wiggly lynched. Most if not all that wagon was Town.
That means Mafia were either not voting or were pushing SoA making SoA less likely to be Mafia, but not impossible.

the only mafia that's flipped is scotty though so how do you know what the mafia was doing

Because everyone in the other wagon is confirmed Town except for Michelle...

[NotAnAxehole]

Man... That self vote

[NotAnAxehole]

I would also bet on SoA being town for now.

[LinearPoint]

Look I never said MightyQ’s vote was justified…

[alexa]

OK, let me try that in a shorter way.
The Mafia were not trying to get Wiggly lynched. Most if not all that wagon was Town.
That means Mafia were either not voting or were pushing SoA making SoA less likely to be Mafia, but not impossible.

the only mafia that's flipped is scotty though so how do you know what the mafia was doing

Because everyone in the other wagon is confirmed Town except for Michelle...

errrr
wait but who was on Wiggly?
tbh this site making it hard to view wagons makes it hard for me to tell

but like from a technical standpoint i really don't think mafia being on Wigly VS. someone else would matter bc they wouldn't know he was 3P

ok gn

[LinearPoint]

I’m just dyslexic and cannot tell Wiggly and MightyQ apart.

[Marmot]

Hello, it is I, a marmot

[LinearPoint]

Hello, it is I, a marmot

Hi Marmot, got a role? You're one of the only 3 people who haven't claimed anything.

[Marmot]

Hello, it is I, a marmot

Hi Marmot, got a role? You're one of the only 3 people who haven't claimed anything.

I will resolve on Day 5, should I just wait or claim now?