Not really. Nova would be closest but I definitely even have concerns about him, like you said it's like he's too clean.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:27 pm So if that's the case is anyone aside from me not on the table?
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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 5]
Except for the parts where I suspected you, which you mostly just didn't address. Which is not in your town meta. Your town meta is usually to exhibit some frustration when people are misreading you, not remain calm and pragmatic, which is literally your scum meta lol.
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Imo it's nutella vs. Michelle.
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Nutella wanna do a trustfall?
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I tend to ignore a small amount of suspicion. It's if it starts to look like I might actually be in the running that I get really frustrated. I'm happy to have an nk-survivability-optimized amount of scrutiny.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:29 pmExcept for the parts where I suspected you, which you mostly just didn't address. Which is not in your town meta. Your town meta is usually to exhibit some frustration when people are misreading you, not remain calm and pragmatic, which is literally your scum meta lol.
But really take another look at the posts about speed and rej you quoted. Would I ever treat teammates like that lol. No. Those are my honest progressions.
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I think Nutella is town. When I get back on my pc, I'll take a look but off of speedchuck's death/flip, that was my initial thought.
Drago, ok so the LC kill doesn't clear him if the case the killer went for him because he was a widely town read, but I still find him hella genuine this phase and last phase.
Drago, ok so the LC kill doesn't clear him if the case the killer went for him because he was a widely town read, but I still find him hella genuine this phase and last phase.
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Thought we were doing gth?
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not sure what you mean by this?
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Last phase being eod btw. It sounded genuine frustration and not a scum about to be caught.
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oh nvm i gotcha
but you saying that doesn't make me feel better about you lol
but you saying that doesn't make me feel better about you lol
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we all wish we could prove it but only mac gets that privilege ![Shrug :shrug:](./images/smilies/shrug2.gif)
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I think Jay is probably screaming at me from across the rainbow bridge. I can't ignore the data.
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Mac you have gone silent.
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Ack you can't really use this as a defense Nut lol. I have too much respect for you to think this type of arbitrary thing is outside of your scum range. I need to distinguish you based on what win con you are playing towards overall.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:34 pmI tend to ignore a small amount of suspicion. It's if it starts to look like I might actually be in the running that I get really frustrated. I'm happy to have an nk-survivability-optimized amount of scrutiny.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:29 pmExcept for the parts where I suspected you, which you mostly just didn't address. Which is not in your town meta. Your town meta is usually to exhibit some frustration when people are misreading you, not remain calm and pragmatic, which is literally your scum meta lol.
But really take another look at the posts about speed and rej you quoted. Would I ever treat teammates like that lol. No. Those are my honest progressions.
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Why would Fayt produce an unprovoked fake town read on you in this scenario while a mod cleared civ is shading you if she was the last Mafia?
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Also what data?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:02 pmWhy would Fayt produce an unprovoked fake town read on you in this scenario while a mod cleared civ is shading you if she was the last Mafia?
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The fact that she didn't die on night three.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:03 pmAlso what data?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:02 pmWhy would Fayt produce an unprovoked fake town read on you in this scenario while a mod cleared civ is shading you if she was the last Mafia?
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I mean plus all the other stuff lol.
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To try to get in my good graces? Idk. Maybe it is weird that she said that.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:02 pmWhy would Fayt produce an unprovoked fake town read on you in this scenario while a mod cleared civ is shading you if she was the last Mafia?
Convince me on Michelle?
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See the thing is I think it's either Fayt or Drago who prevented Fayt from being killed. Do you see michelle doing that?
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The consensus plan was for the vig to kill fayt after Jay's flip (or to vig whichever if them wasn't lynched if the game didn't end). There was no vig kill. The cat has a block.
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Who is/was the vig?nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:18 pmThe consensus plan was for the vig to kill fayt after Jay's flip (or to vig whichever if them wasn't lynched if the game didn't end). There was no vig kill. The cat has a block.
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The vig is still alive.
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Double targeting is allowed.
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Put it together Sherlock.
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I see what you mean. That would require the cat who is the roleblocker to correctly identify who the vigilante is on that night and to have not killed them since right?
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I can't explain the kill choices, but the vig isn't much of a threat to them if they have a perpetual repeatable roleblock.
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But the living cat correctly guessed who the vig was, on night 2?
I personally have no idea who the vig is, do you have suspicions? Did you at the time? I am asking you to try to ascertain whether the vigilante would have been easily guessed or whether it was total luck that they got it right, in order to determine the likelihood that it is as simple as it appears, and not that the vigilante just digressed from the plan and rather targeted someone that came under doctor protection or some other possibility.
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Doctor died a while ago
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And yeah I think they guessed. They did at least have the speed kill to go off of.
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Also they literally had a role cop in speed's role lol. That could also explain it.
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Hmm. I mean as much as I would love to be lynched and flipped so people can see that I did believe in JJJ and his defense, you and JJJ are wrong about me.
However, this whole thing about Michelle is making me doubt my vote if what you're saying is to be true. ugh.
Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 5]
Shit, I need to reevaluate.
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What whole thing about michelle?
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I don't see her doing this. I mean I'm judging this based off this game and her posts but I don't think so if what you're saying is true.
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Okay now I'm back to thinking it's Drago.
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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 5]
Why would the cat roleblock a vig that was going to kill Fayt, if Fayt is not a cat?
I know I've not been paying super close attention but we've lynched three people since this revelation and none have been Fayt. So surely I am missing some reason as to why?
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... Yeah. He was overt in orchestrating the vig plan bc he knew he could prevent it and keep fayt around
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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 5]
Man I've been over this several times already. To buy himself another day, keep a likely mislynch target around.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:59 pm Why would the cat roleblock a vig that was going to kill Fayt, if Fayt is not a cat?
I know I've not been paying super close attention but we've lynched three people since this revelation and none have been Fayt. So surely I am missing some reason as to why?
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And yeah lynching fayt may be the logical choice. I just feel like Drago could have done that but maybe I'm overthinking it and falling for fayt's innocence mask.
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So what, I already said I haven't paid any attention to this, give your mod cleared townie the low-down please lol.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:02 pmMan I've been over this several times already. To buy himself another day, keep a likely mislynch target around.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:59 pm Why would the cat roleblock a vig that was going to kill Fayt, if Fayt is not a cat?
I know I've not been paying super close attention but we've lynched three people since this revelation and none have been Fayt. So surely I am missing some reason as to why?
Show me where Drago was "overt in orchestrating the vig plan bc he knew he could prevent it and keep fayt around" please.
Then show me how that makes more sense than "Fayt roleblocked a vigilante that was going to shoot her".
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Plan is his idea.
Continuing to draw attention to make sure it is seen and agreed up on as consensus.
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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 5]
I am torn pretty much 50/50 here. I do think it obviously makes sense that Fayt would have done it and is now trying to play suck-up to me in humoring my theory and trying to direct it off of her by buying into it. I also think it makes sense that Drago wanted to prolong the game by eliminating a vig kill and implicating Fayt.
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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 5]
I honestly cannot see where there was a plan to vig Fayt specifically documented. I can see where the plan was to lynch Fayt and vig Jay, but given Jay got lynched the only existence of a "lynch Fayt" plan is in the undertone of the aforementioned plan. Speaking as though there was a clear and decided plan for the vig to vig Fayt is bad faith imo.
And this is the only post anywhere near the EOD that references any kind of vig directive.
And this is the only post anywhere near the EOD that references any kind of vig directive.
As an aside it's interesting that Michelle is referring to the vig as a "he" is it not? Given that Nutella and Fayt are both females are were in the game, is this not revealing that Michelle actually knows who the vig is *cough* because rolecop *cough*?
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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 5]
Also lol why is this even a question. Mafia always want to prevent vig kills even if they are on civs because that narrows the numbers and narrows the suspect pool.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:59 pm Why would the cat roleblock a vig that was going to kill Fayt, if Fayt is not a cat?
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