The Syndicate

fingersplints wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm not trying to discredit your opinion; I just know you're wrong. It seems you suspect me because my playstyle this game is different because I'm really busy and distracted and posting less. Sure, all of that is true. But it doesn't mean I'm less interested in finding baddies just because I'm not manically throwing names out all over the thread. I did that enough in DW and I just don't feel as invested this game (not boo's fault, it's really entirely due to my schedule). And for when I am a baddie, what you said is just not true. If anything, I throw out more opinions when I'm bad. And regarding the "probably much more than many", I just find it odd you single me out for that when there are plenty of other players who have contributed to the same or lesser degree than me.

Epig is always very opinionated when he even slightly thinks I am bad, and in 5 whole cycles he never said anything against me. I haven't killed anyone.

You have offered less to say something about though. So maybe Epig just didn't get a chance to say it, or was busy finding the other baddies that he was lynching. It's really hard to say here, but as I said, I can see you having reason to kill both of them.

Being distracted and posing less doesn't make you good either. Why do you think you should get a free pass based on it?

fingersplints wrote:I'm not twisting your words. You are the one throwing the "I'm so busy" card out there and how you posting less doesn't make you bad. All I am saying is it doesn't make you good either.

I do not know your role, and I do not believe it is a civvie one. I am allowed to suspect you. I am not sure why that would make you resentful.

linki. You asked me a question, and I responded. And then it went back and forth from there. No where did I "push" anything.

fingersplints wrote:However, I do agree with you that keys deserves reexamining. I stand by my "keys might be WW" idea. He has missed kills before when I have hosted him, and I think he voted with bwt. And again, there is no reason for him to have tried to outbid me on that rob. I think if he was a civvie he would have let me have it.

MovingPictures07 wrote:RIP zeek. That's a bummer.

So it seems Llama had LMS conditions after all, even if newly acquired.... I still think that negates my LC/Llama connection though.

There have been good points on the LC/TH front. I find LC's case much more convincing potentially than Llama's. However... I am having trouble discerning one of two possibilities:

1) LC is dead on; TH is WW and LoRab is railroad.
2) LC is incorrect.

I think my gut still leans towards #2, with TH being a civvie since he seems genuine.

That said, I find it really odd Hanna and Bea come in here and say what they have. If #1 was the case, would either of them be so bold as to assert such a thing? It just seems weird to me given both of them have been very nonopinionated all game. Thoughts here?

MovingPictures07 wrote:And multiple players keep throwing out how badly they want to catch Reds, but I don't see much baddie hunting from most players considering it's Day 7. I know I haven't been amazing myself, but I feel more people should have opinions of others by now. Hanna, for example, keeps stressing all of this, but never throws out any suspects of her own. It's starting to ping me big time.

Turnip Head wrote:

fingersplints wrote:However, I do agree with you that keys deserves reexamining. I stand by my "keys might be WW" idea. He has missed kills before when I have hosted him, and I think he voted with bwt. And again, there is no reason for him to have tried to outbid me on that rob. I think if he was a civvie he would have let me have it.

Keys didn't vote for BWT. He voted for LC about halfway through Day 3. Epi brought up his case on BWT a little while after that, but Keys did not post again during that lynch.

Then on Day 4, keys posted once ontopic to vote for Hedgeowl, and then rest of his posts that day were trying to outbid splints for the rob power, which he lost.

Night 4 was the night of the missing Water Works kill.

Keys did not post at all from Day 4 up until his one post yesterday (Day 6) where he voted for me.

On Night 6, Water Works killed again.

MovingPictures07 wrote:RIP zeek. That's a bummer.

So it seems Llama had LMS conditions after all, even if newly acquired.... I still think that negates my LC/Llama connection though.

There have been good points on the LC/TH front. I find LC's case much more convincing potentially than Llama's. However... I am having trouble discerning one of two possibilities:

1) LC is dead on; TH is WW and LoRab is railroad.
2) LC is incorrect.

I think my gut still leans towards #2, with TH being a civvie since he seems genuine.

That said, I find it really odd Hanna and Bea come in here and say what they have. If #1 was the case, would either of them be so bold as to assert such a thing? It just seems weird to me given both of them have been very nonopinionated all game. Thoughts here?

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm not trying to discredit your opinion; I just know you're wrong. It seems you suspect me because my playstyle this game is different because I'm really busy and distracted and posting less. Sure, all of that is true. But it doesn't mean I'm less interested in finding baddies just because I'm not manically throwing names out all over the thread. I did that enough in DW and I just don't feel as invested this game (not boo's fault, it's really entirely due to my schedule). And for when I am a baddie, what you said is just not true. If anything, I throw out more opinions when I'm bad. And regarding the "probably much more than many", I just find it odd you single me out for that when there are plenty of other players who have contributed to the same or lesser degree than me.

Epig is always very opinionated when he even slightly thinks I am bad, and in 5 whole cycles he never said anything against me. I haven't killed anyone.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't know where this sudden push from you is coming from, but you're wrong about me. I am not bad and if anyone wants to find an RR they should look elsewhere.

I still think TH made a good point about LoRab being an RR and she's been playing a pretty low key game. But this gets into my question about LC's theory: If Hanna or Bea were an RR teammate of LoRab, does anyone think that's how they would handle that situation?

My eyes are on LoRab and Hanna as possible RRs at the moment, but with Reds, Light Blues, Greens, and Yellows all being LMS, it seems a significant majority of the players living right now would more likely be out for an "anyone but them" lynch today.

I also think keys might need examining, since he refuses to come and play the game with us, and I find his D1 agenda benefiting an RR.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:I'm not twisting your words. You are the one throwing the "I'm so busy" card out there and how you posting less doesn't make you bad. All I am saying is it doesn't make you good either.

I do not know your role, and I do not believe it is a civvie one. I am allowed to suspect you. I am not sure why that would make you resentful.

linki. You asked me a question, and I responded. And then it went back and forth from there. No where did I "push" anything.

Well, that's fair, and of course you are allowed to suspect me, but you're wrong, and I don't want to be lynched.

I just don't like the "posting less" argument against me because I've wanted to play this game to my fullest ability but I've been insanely busy, and I always feel I get held to a higher standard of baddie hunting and posting than some other players do, just because often times I get obsessive with games and post a lot. My posting volume has practically nothing to do with my alignment, ever.

Who else do you suspect? And I presume you find merit in LC's case since you've expressed feelings regarding TH being bad previously?

bea wrote:hi domodom! what say you sir?

I'm late in the game so I'd like to hear what you think about everything outside of your normal lacky comments. fill a sista up please

bea wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:I'm not twisting your words. You are the one throwing the "I'm so busy" card out there and how you posting less doesn't make you bad. All I am saying is it doesn't make you good either.

I do not know your role, and I do not believe it is a civvie one. I am allowed to suspect you. I am not sure why that would make you resentful.

linki. You asked me a question, and I responded. And then it went back and forth from there. No where did I "push" anything.

Well, that's fair, and of course you are allowed to suspect me, but you're wrong, and I don't want to be lynched.

I just don't like the "posting less" argument against me because I've wanted to play this game to my fullest ability but I've been insanely busy, and I always feel I get held to a higher standard of baddie hunting and posting than some other players do, just because often times I get obsessive with games and post a lot. My posting volume has practically nothing to do with my alignment, ever.

Who else do you suspect? And I presume you find merit in LC's case since you've expressed feelings regarding TH being bad previously?

Turnip Head wrote:

bea wrote:hi domodom! what say you sir?

I'm late in the game so I'd like to hear what you think about everything outside of your normal lacky comments. fill a sista up please

I do believe Dom is modding. Hahaha.

Turnip Head wrote:

bea wrote:hi domodom! what say you sir?

I'm late in the game so I'd like to hear what you think about everything outside of your normal lacky comments. fill a sista up please

I do believe Dom is modding. Hahaha.

fingersplints wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

bea wrote:hi domodom! what say you sir?

I'm late in the game so I'd like to hear what you think about everything outside of your normal lacky comments. fill a sista up please

I do believe Dom is modding. Hahaha.

Maybe he is secretly playing and is just another low poster.

Turnip Head wrote:I'm just pointing out the facts. It looks like Keys was not around for the missed kill, and returned just before last night's kill.

S~V~S wrote:Wow that was fast, lol.

On night 3 I won $100 for being one of 7 people to roll 7; I presume that the other 6 also won prizes; DP was not one of them iirc. But discussing windfalls might be something we want to think about if we start using hotel survival as a litmus test of big $$.

bea wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Wow that was fast, lol.

On night 3 I won $100 for being one of 7 people to roll 7; I presume that the other 6 also won prizes; DP was not one of them iirc. But discussing windfalls might be something we want to think about if we start using hotel survival as a litmus test of big $$.

I won a similar prize on the 7's night. I'm not even joking. IDK what it was or what my cash count is at this moment.


It was prolly 1oo. I'm srrsly that out of it this game. I'm such fail its not even funnyl

Turnip Head wrote:I'm just pointing out the facts. It looks like Keys was not around for the missed kill, and returned just before last night's kill.

keys56000000000 wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:I'm just pointing out the facts. It looks like Keys was not around for the missed kill, and returned just before last night's kill.

a) I'm around.

b) I would never miss an opportunity to nightkill one of you motherfuckers.

@MP: how the fuck does my d1 union agenda benefit the rail roads? fucking lol. later.

bea wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Wow that was fast, lol.

On night 3 I won $100 for being one of 7 people to roll 7; I presume that the other 6 also won prizes; DP was not one of them iirc. But discussing windfalls might be something we want to think about if we start using hotel survival as a litmus test of big $$.

I won a similar prize on the 7's night. I'm not even joking. IDK what it was or what my cash count is at this moment.


It was prolly 1oo. I'm srrsly that out of it this game. I'm such fail its not even funnyl

keys56000000000 wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:I'm just pointing out the facts. It looks like Keys was not around for the missed kill, and returned just before last night's kill.

a) I'm around.

b) I would never miss an opportunity to nightkill one of you motherfuckers.

@MP: how the fuck does my d1 union agenda benefit the rail roads? fucking lol. later.

HannaK wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:RIP zeek. That's a bummer.

So it seems Llama had LMS conditions after all, even if newly acquired.... I still think that negates my LC/Llama connection though.

There have been good points on the LC/TH front. I find LC's case much more convincing potentially than Llama's. However... I am having trouble discerning one of two possibilities:

1) LC is dead on; TH is WW and LoRab is railroad.
2) LC is incorrect.

I think my gut still leans towards #2, with TH being a civvie since he seems genuine.

That said, I find it really odd Hanna and Bea come in here and say what they have. If #1 was the case, would either of them be so bold as to assert such a thing? It just seems weird to me given both of them have been very nonopinionated all game. Thoughts here?

I guess because I don't really feel that this is an opinion, it's just good logical reasoning that I hadn't thought of myself, which is why I like expressing that I like this line of thinking. Im generally not very good at coming up with my own suspicions based on completely new information, especially in this game because i havent played with you all before which is also why:

MovingPictures07 wrote:And multiple players keep throwing out how badly they want to catch Reds, but I don't see much baddie hunting from most players considering it's Day 7. I know I haven't been amazing myself, but I feel more people should have opinions of others by now. Hanna, for example, keeps stressing all of this, but never throws out any suspects of her own. It's starting to ping me big time.

Yeah it is true that I dont have many solid suspicions, this is because a) statistically there are wayyy more civvies/LMS groups than baddies at this point so I am careful pointing to people as bad b) because I am generally quite weary with my suspicions because they are often either based on logical reasoning (which is hard) or game style (of which I don't have much information apart from the style of players within this game

S~V~S wrote:And MP, you win the prize this game for instances of saying "baddie hunting" and instances of accusing people for lack thereof. The problem with that in this game is that the LMS started out as civvies, and we don't even KNOW if someone is a LMS person at all. Llama is a case in point. He said he was not a baddie, and he apparently was NOT until right before we lynched him, lol. Personally, I think you, LC & TH ALL have teammates. So if you are not LMS already, you soon enough will be. Plus most of the actual baddies, 4 out of 6, started out without BTS, and looking for team association is a major "baddie hunting" tool.

Baddie hunting even became a scary point when boo said the kill would pass, but would not say how. So finding that last Utility, who may leave a trail, would be way easier thana kill that is essentially a needle in a haystack of people who used to be civvies. That was a point the "no searchers" were 100% right about on Day Zero~ at some point we will have to assume we are all, or mostly, LMS.

I am right around the corner from the Reds, the Yellows (no houses...yet, but charging monopoly rents) and the Greens. I can stand one hotel and maybe a house or two with the windfall I got last night, but not much more. We're gonna lost ALOT of people starting tomorrow, especially if the Yellows build.

Black Rock wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:I'm just pointing out the facts. It looks like Keys was not around for the missed kill, and returned just before last night's kill.

Good point, does anyone else fit that description?

Long Con wrote:

bea wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Wow that was fast, lol.

On night 3 I won $100 for being one of 7 people to roll 7; I presume that the other 6 also won prizes; DP was not one of them iirc. But discussing windfalls might be something we want to think about if we start using hotel survival as a litmus test of big $$.

I won a similar prize on the 7's night. I'm not even joking. IDK what it was or what my cash count is at this moment.


It was prolly 1oo. I'm srrsly that out of it this game. I'm such fail its not even funnyl

Not even joking, I also won $100 from the Seven contest. There were three $100 prizes in the seven, right?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Splints, thanks for your thoughts, you have some good insight. Definitely worth keeping in mind. Do you think keys would contribute more if he were civ or no?

S~V~S wrote:

Long Con wrote:

bea wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Wow that was fast, lol.

On night 3 I won $100 for being one of 7 people to roll 7; I presume that the other 6 also won prizes; DP was not one of them iirc. But discussing windfalls might be something we want to think about if we start using hotel survival as a litmus test of big $$.

I won a similar prize on the 7's night. I'm not even joking. IDK what it was or what my cash count is at this moment.


It was prolly 1oo. I'm srrsly that out of it this game. I'm such fail its not even funnyl

Not even joking, I also won $100 from the Seven contest. There were three $100 prizes in the seven, right?

I had the impression that all 7 got something. Neither the word nor the numeral 3 was mentioned, just that I was one of 7 who received a prize. So if there was this prize, do you think it likely there may have been others? I know when it started being questioned in detail about how much money the people who landed on the Reds may have had and how they may have gotten it, I thought of prizes.Having won a secret prize myself and all.

Result: 7 or more players rolled a 7 gives 7 random players (3 guaranteed from being in the pool of people who rolled 7) small random powers.
1 = 1 any time vote
2 = Protect that night
3 = Get a double search
4= Get a roleblock to use following night
5 = Get an extra dice to use following night (on anyone)
6 = Get $100.
7 = Get 2 of the other 6 powers.

Long Con wrote: He had a kill night 2, and chose to kill Black Rock 1.0... and when we looked back on all of BR's posts, the only thing that stood out was that she had spoken up against TH.

Long Con wrote:He was around Night 4, and so he didn't likely MISS the kill. He may have chosen not to kill in order to implicate low posters, or the roleblock may have been used on him. Both do seem unlikely.

Long Con wrote:So there was not, like a super-huge number of opportunities to reveal Lorab as an RR.

Long Con wrote:Ok, I found it:

Result: 7 or more players rolled a 7 gives 7 random players (3 guaranteed from being in the pool of people who rolled 7) small random powers.
1 = 1 any time vote
2 = Protect that night
3 = Get a double search
4= Get a roleblock to use following night
5 = Get an extra dice to use following night (on anyone)
6 = Get $100.
7 = Get 2 of the other 6 powers.

So, three of us got $100... it's weird.

fingersplints wrote:Doesn't that mess up your theory about TH being WW

fingersplints wrote:Maybe I am wrong though and keys was found and is part of a civvie set/LMS group though, which could explain his disinterest since he was clearly against the searching. That could explain how he magically appeared tonight when he was discussed.