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Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:46 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:37 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:35 pm I see no reason why Nanook’s productivity level should be considered significantly correlated with his alignment

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:35 pm I guess if you wanna correlate it with your sympathy that’s on you
why are you like weirdly defending him at the eleventh hour kinda weirdly TMIy vibe

meh anyway in case i finally die (paradoxically i might be alive for having not said this yet) the emergency button alluded to earlier is in fact master radishes

Cause of his still suspicious of Porscha voter post

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:46 pm**

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:36 pm I'm not buying the argument that Nook has slanked too much to be a wolf. That's such an easy cop-out. I firmly believe he's mafia, and if he doesn't flip mafia then I will put my own life on the line. I am that confident in my take.

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:46 pm**

Vote: MR

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:46 pm**

hihi o/

here from now until eod

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:46 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:43 pm I did say pregame I was going to heavy slank lol

So did i, lol.

But my concern isn't your activity levels, it's that I believe it's very easy for you to skate by on the low level of contribution you've given and survive to endgame like that. Which is dangerous if you're town, because you're a mislunch candidate, but also dangerous if you're scum, because people might continue to dismiss you. As far as I'm concerned, you're within both your town and wolf meta, so I'm not going to meta read you.

I just strongly believe that what you're doing lines up well with a wolf trying to skirt under the radar, not making any heavy agenda pushes, but pushing just enough to have a thread presence.

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:47 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:46 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:37 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:35 pm I see no reason why Nanook’s productivity level should be considered significantly correlated with his alignment

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:35 pm I guess if you wanna correlate it with your sympathy that’s on you
why are you like weirdly defending him at the eleventh hour kinda weirdly TMIy vibe

meh anyway in case i finally die (paradoxically i might be alive for having not said this yet) the emergency button alluded to earlier is in fact master radishes
Cause of his still suspicious of Porscha voter post

You don't think that's a weird focus to have, when Nook wasn't even in your half of the thread during the Porscha wagon?

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:50 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:44 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:44 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:38 pm still wilgy first i think but wilgy more likely landlord and radish arbiter if nook isnt
Is your read on Wilgy based on any interactions with Brad or Abby?
Vaguely on brad i guess

can you run through what brad/wilgy's interactions were? tyty \o/

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:50 pm**

Is Nanook not primarily a POE vote?

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:51 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:50 pm Is Nanook not primarily a POE vote?

Maybe he is for most people
I'd like to think I have more pressing reasons to vote him

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:51 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:50 pm Is Nanook not primarily a POE vote?

Somewhat. He's not not suspicious.

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:52 pm**

If this isn't a hit, I think Sig and Delta could probably still use some more attention. Wilgy too.

Not going to stay up for the flip.

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:52 pm**

Oh and how long do we let TSP be TSP, because I don't think we want him in F3 or anything either.

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:52 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:50 pm Is Nanook not primarily a POE vote?

His interactions with Ricochet look awful. That, and he's felt very uncomfortable with the gamestate ever since the arbiters started collapsing.

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:54 pm**

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:46 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:43 pm I did say pregame I was going to heavy slank lol
So did i, lol.

But my concern isn't your activity levels, it's that I believe it's very easy for you to skate by on the low level of contribution you've given and survive to endgame like that. Which is dangerous if you're town, because you're a mislunch candidate, but also dangerous if you're scum, because people might continue to dismiss you. As far as I'm concerned, you're within both your town and wolf meta, so I'm not going to meta read you.

I just strongly believe that what you're doing lines up well with a wolf trying to skirt under the radar, not making any heavy agenda pushes, but pushing just enough to have a thread presence.

Ok lol

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:55 pm**

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:51 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:50 pm Is Nanook not primarily a POE vote?
Maybe he is for most people
I'd like to think I have more pressing reasons to vote him

Keep saying that and maybe people will believe you

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:01 pm**

"I only want to yeet Porscha voters"

# of Porscha voters: 6

# of caught Wolves voting Porscha: 1

# of caught Wolves NOT voting Porscha: 3

So, any attitude about this falls on deaf ears. Your solving is far too lacking in this game, and I just provided receipts.

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:03 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:01 pm "I only want to yeet Porscha voters"

# of Porscha voters: 6

# of caught Wolves voting Porscha: 1

# of caught Wolves NOT voting Porscha: 3

So, any attitude about this falls on deaf ears. Your solving is far too lacking in this game, and I just provided receipts.

I don't ONLY want to yeet porscha voters

I just also want to vote them

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:03 pm**

You'll note most of my votes have been on lemon and now nutella lol

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:06 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:55 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:51 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:50 pm Is Nanook not primarily a POE vote?
Maybe he is for most people
I'd like to think I have more pressing reasons to vote him
Keep saying that and maybe people will believe you

I do, in fact, have very good reason to vote you and not just because you're PoE.

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:07 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:03 pm You'll note most of my votes have been on lemon and now nutella lol

I still don't really understand the Nutella case at all.
Lemon, well, she flipped red so at least that's something. But all you've really said about nut is that she's obvious mafia and it isn't obvious at all to me, or probably to a lot of people.

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:11 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:50 pm Is Nanook not primarily a POE vote?
His interactions with Ricochet look awful. That, and he's felt very uncomfortable with the gamestate ever since the arbiters started collapsing.

Tbf, I don't really think if he's an arbiter he would continue to push Lemon today after Rico flipped. I did initially think he was an arbiter coming into today, though. But now I think he's probably a landlord.

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:14 pm**

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:03 pm You'll note most of my votes have been on lemon and now nutella lol
I still don't really understand the Nutella case at all.
Lemon, well, she flipped red so at least that's something. But all you've really said about nut is that she's obvious mafia and it isn't obvious at all to me, or probably to a lot of people.

I didn't say obvious, I just think she's probably mafia

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:15 pm**

In honor of dizzy I have to include radishes too

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:22 pm**

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:47 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:46 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:37 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:35 pm I see no reason why Nanook’s productivity level should be considered significantly correlated with his alignment

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:35 pm I guess if you wanna correlate it with your sympathy that’s on you
why are you like weirdly defending him at the eleventh hour kinda weirdly TMIy vibe

meh anyway in case i finally die (paradoxically i might be alive for having not said this yet) the emergency button alluded to earlier is in fact master radishes
Cause of his still suspicious of Porscha voter post
You don't think that's a weird focus to have, when Nook wasn't even in your half of the thread during the Porscha wagon?

yeah duh

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:23 pm**

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:06 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:55 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:51 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:50 pm Is Nanook not primarily a POE vote?
Maybe he is for most people
I'd like to think I have more pressing reasons to vote him
Keep saying that and maybe people will believe you
I do, in fact, have very good reason to vote you and not just because you're PoE.

eh toeing the line here but I'll call it within the spirit of the rules and if nanook is a wolf he can press for the modkill in wolf chat and probably WWA means something completely different and isn't aware of the implications

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:23 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:52 pm Oh and how long do we let TSP be TSP, because I don't think we want him in F3 or anything either.

f u rabbit

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:25 pm**

for the record my F3 record has improved several orders of magnitude

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:26 pm**

and also more importantly

1) we won't make it that far and
2) you want me around (for legal purposes this should not and cannot be construed as mechanical or dealing with mechanics in any way shape or form)

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:27 pm**

The real F3 threat might be Davos, as if they're an alt of someone that's still alive that could result in the game being called then and there. This is something to worry about for another phase, however.

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:28 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:14 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:03 pm You'll note most of my votes have been on lemon and now nutella lol
I still don't really understand the Nutella case at all.
Lemon, well, she flipped red so at least that's something. But all you've really said about nut is that she's obvious mafia and it isn't obvious at all to me, or probably to a lot of people.
I didn't say obvious, I just think she's probably mafia

Oh, yeah you're right, you didn't say that. I don't know why I thought I read that.

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:31 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:27 pm The real F3 threat might be Davos, as if they're an alt of someone that's still alive that could result in the game being called then and there. This is something to worry about for another phase, however.

I dont think a sock puppet would be a problem imo?

Assuming they're tied to mafia, I think having a puppet act as an additional member would be a little imbalanced for late game

at least I hope ?_?

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:32 pm**

I forgot Davos was still here.

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:32 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:32 pm I forgot Davos was still here.

arrr

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:32 pm**

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:31 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:27 pm The real F3 threat might be Davos, as if they're an alt of someone that's still alive that could result in the game being called then and there. This is something to worry about for another phase, however.
I dont think a sock puppet would be a problem imo?

Assuming they're tied to mafia, I think having a puppet act as an additional member would be a little imbalanced for late game

at least I hope ?_?

Hostile ITP is also a possibility. Still, I'd hope there'd be a lover aspect if Davos is truly a wolf.

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:34 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:29 pm Tunnel ended wjth sabi, Dizzy js my tunnel now

Nook, how did you go from locktowning Dizzy in the East Facility to tunnelling him here?

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:34 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:32 pm I forgot Davos was still here.

Tbf he's neither voted nor said arrr today

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:37 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:32 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:31 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:27 pm The real F3 threat might be Davos, as if they're an alt of someone that's still alive that could result in the game being called then and there. This is something to worry about for another phase, however.
I dont think a sock puppet would be a problem imo?

Assuming they're tied to mafia, I think having a puppet act as an additional member would be a little imbalanced for late game

at least I hope ?_?
Hostile ITP is also a possibility. Still, I'd hope there'd be a lover aspect if Davos is truly a wolf.

One ITP has already flipped from the other side, and Davos (I dont think?) was part of ours

Unless someone on our side was controlling Davos on the other?

Would be p awkward if so

Plus Scrappy flipped town so kinda want to assume Davos is tied to a wolf for balance

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:38 pm**

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:34 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:29 pm Tunnel ended wjth sabi, Dizzy js my tunnel now
Nook, how did you go from locktowning Dizzy in the East Facility to tunnelling him here?

Stupidity

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:40 pm**

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:37 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:32 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:31 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:27 pm The real F3 threat might be Davos, as if they're an alt of someone that's still alive that could result in the game being called then and there. This is something to worry about for another phase, however.
I dont think a sock puppet would be a problem imo?

Assuming they're tied to mafia, I think having a puppet act as an additional member would be a little imbalanced for late game

at least I hope ?_?
Hostile ITP is also a possibility. Still, I'd hope there'd be a lover aspect if Davos is truly a wolf.
One ITP has already flipped from the other side, and Davos (I dont think?) was part of ours

Unless someone on our side was controlling Davos on the other?

Would be p awkward if so

Plus Scrappy flipped town so kinda want to assume Davos is tied to a wolf for balance

I doubt the puppetmasters are from opposite threads, since Cape's flip said he was the only one with visual access to both sides

But yeah I agree with the balance logic about Davos maybe being tied to a wolf, except that if one wolf team has a sock and the other team doesn't, that would be a bit weird. Either way, I'm not gonna worry about Davos for today.

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:40 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:38 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:34 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:29 pm Tunnel ended wjth sabi, Dizzy js my tunnel now
Nook, how did you go from locktowning Dizzy in the East Facility to tunnelling him here?
Stupidity

Lol

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:42 pm**

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:37 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:32 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:31 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:27 pm The real F3 threat might be Davos, as if they're an alt of someone that's still alive that could result in the game being called then and there. This is something to worry about for another phase, however.
I dont think a sock puppet would be a problem imo?

Assuming they're tied to mafia, I think having a puppet act as an additional member would be a little imbalanced for late game

at least I hope ?_?
Hostile ITP is also a possibility. Still, I'd hope there'd be a lover aspect if Davos is truly a wolf.
One ITP has already flipped from the other side, and Davos (I dont think?) was part of ours

Unless someone on our side was controlling Davos on the other?

Would be p awkward if so

Plus Scrappy flipped town so kinda want to assume Davos is tied to a wolf for balance

It has to be someone from the other side controlling Davos, unless Cape90's role PM lies (which would make the game bastard). While wolves being balanced can be taken for granted balancing ITPs between the threads can be a bit more questionable, especially given the disparity between hostile and non-hostile ITPs. Still, effectively three ITP accounts on one thread may be a bit much, so perhaps you have a point there. Nevertheless, this is something to worry about after the wolves are defeated (assuming the game hasn't already ended by then).

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:43 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:42 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:37 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:32 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:31 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:27 pm The real F3 threat might be Davos, as if they're an alt of someone that's still alive that could result in the game being called then and there. This is something to worry about for another phase, however.
I dont think a sock puppet would be a problem imo?

Assuming they're tied to mafia, I think having a puppet act as an additional member would be a little imbalanced for late game

at least I hope ?_?
Hostile ITP is also a possibility. Still, I'd hope there'd be a lover aspect if Davos is truly a wolf.
One ITP has already flipped from the other side, and Davos (I dont think?) was part of ours

Unless someone on our side was controlling Davos on the other?

Would be p awkward if so

Plus Scrappy flipped town so kinda want to assume Davos is tied to a wolf for balance
It has to be someone from the other side controlling Davos, unless Cape90's role PM lies (which would make the game bastard). While wolves being balanced can be taken for granted balancing ITPs between the threads can be a bit more questionable, especially given the disparity between hostile and non-hostile ITPs. Still, effectively three ITP accounts on one thread may be a bit much, so perhaps you have a point there. Nevertheless, this is something to worry about after the wolves are defeated (assuming the game hasn't already ended by then).

OH shit yeah I forgot Cape's PM said it was just him with access to both

it's only now clicked thats what he actually pinged me for LMAO

I assume Davos is probably self resolving regardless considering they're likely tied to someone

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:44 pm**

Ok I gotta go but I still think Nook flips mafia
If he doesn't, you can put me in the PoE, I'm fine with that
And then I'd probably look at Wilgy and MR next from East
I'm not gonna bother looking at West unless my PoE is wrong

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:45 pm**

Nanook must be controlling Davos. Or maybe TSP.

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:45 pm**

I looked at Wilgy's and MR's ISOs earlier from this thread and couldn't really find much that stood out to me
I want to check their ISOs in East and see if there's something I missed there
And admittedly I haven't gone back at all to reread the N0 thread

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:46 pm**

can't be me unless the game is bastard

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:46 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:45 pm Nanook must be controlling Davos. Or maybe TSP.

couldn't be TSP

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:46 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:45 pm Nanook must be controlling Davos. Or maybe TSP.

It shouldn't be TSP, you guys had Scrappy
And I don't believe it's Nook or he could've voted for self-pres with it. Yet Davos isn't voting.

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:46 pm**

vote: wilgy

Posted: **Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:46 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:25 pm for the record my F3 record has improved several orders of magnitude

Assuming you're Town, don't you think there's a big risk of you getting eliminated in the final 3 simply due to your unreadable playstyle?

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