Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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I mean that's really all well and good, but the fact that you're explaining this and he isn't is kind of weird, don't you think? glorfindel saying "i have decided to move away from my 'i'm civ' meta regardless of alignment and here is the post where i made this declaration" wouldn't break any honesty policy and would also answer every question that's been asked of him.
idr if nova explained hisSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:08 pmI don't think I'm alone in saying that it's a treat to get to play with you, so I hope this sentiment is not permanent. I think we can all find a place where your personal convictions do not interfere with gameplay with more experience.Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:02 pm Very well. I’m putting an end to this nonsense once and for all. If no one could’ve guessed, THIS game means a great deal to me (perhaps more than any other that I’ve played here at the Syndicate) and I am not going to let those disingenuous amongst you use my reputation and meta against me here. Yes, I AM TOWN! You can take that to the bank or wherever else you damn well want to - I’m not going to blissfully be mislynched by the forces of #*^%ing Mordor! I’d said it before, and this game has proven it to me now - my continued presence in these games has become truly untenable. Accordingly, please don’t expect that I’ll be returning for The Two Towers (as much as that pains me). I’ll have more to say on this matter once this game is ended.
In the meantime, I’m not buying Nutella’s twisted logic for voting me so here... have one of your own!
That said, tell me more about nutella. What parts of her logic seem twisted to you?
yeah I really didn't want you to feel forced into breaking your vow and as you could see I was reconsidering my stance based on that, I was just waffly. I'm sorry if it hurt your feelings but what was "twisted logic" about my thought process?Ambray is baaaaaaaaaad. Sad day.Ambray wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:17 pm So I suddenly am working non stop over the next couple days, quite literally so won't be likely around to vote tomorrow.
In all the games I ever played of mafia I only played 1 that allowed role claiming and I still find it hard to wrap my head around it being an ok thing to do nowadays and I really can't say that I like it as a an allowance, but thems the kicks.
I remember yesterday being pinged by somebody, but I honestly do not have the energy in me right now to go back and reread, even just 2 pages worth. xD
I am getting civvie vibes from Kyle so far and I agree with his assessment of the role claiming situation - I am surprised at the amount of people disagreeing with him and calling him mafia for it...
I'm going to follow his lead and vote glorfindel, just cause.
Sorry to be so useless so early in the game.
Tell me more.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:15 pmAmbray is baaaaaaaaaad. Sad day.Ambray wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:17 pm So I suddenly am working non stop over the next couple days, quite literally so won't be likely around to vote tomorrow.
In all the games I ever played of mafia I only played 1 that allowed role claiming and I still find it hard to wrap my head around it being an ok thing to do nowadays and I really can't say that I like it as a an allowance, but thems the kicks.
I remember yesterday being pinged by somebody, but I honestly do not have the energy in me right now to go back and reread, even just 2 pages worth. xD
I am getting civvie vibes from Kyle so far and I agree with his assessment of the role claiming situation - I am surprised at the amount of people disagreeing with him and calling him mafia for it...
I'm going to follow his lead and vote glorfindel, just cause.
Sorry to be so useless so early in the game.
Wouldn't go that far, but a random Glorf vote before disappearing ain't a good look. Hopefully she steps it up from here on.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:15 pmAmbray is baaaaaaaaaad. Sad day.Ambray wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:17 pm So I suddenly am working non stop over the next couple days, quite literally so won't be likely around to vote tomorrow.
In all the games I ever played of mafia I only played 1 that allowed role claiming and I still find it hard to wrap my head around it being an ok thing to do nowadays and I really can't say that I like it as a an allowance, but thems the kicks.
I remember yesterday being pinged by somebody, but I honestly do not have the energy in me right now to go back and reread, even just 2 pages worth. xD
I am getting civvie vibes from Kyle so far and I agree with his assessment of the role claiming situation - I am surprised at the amount of people disagreeing with him and calling him mafia for it...
I'm going to follow his lead and vote glorfindel, just cause.
Sorry to be so useless so early in the game.
also this^ I wasn't trying to push you to break your new conviction to not say "I am town". I wanted a confirmation of the existence of that conviction that came from you instead of from Sloonei. I respect the concept of trying to change and improve your meta and escape from a limiting tendency, but it seemed strange that Sloonei was defending you about it and you weren't.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:11 pmSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:08 pmI don't think I'm alone in saying that it's a treat to get to play with you, so I hope this sentiment is not permanent. I think we can all find a place where your personal convictions do not interfere with gameplay with more experience.Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:02 pm Very well. I’m putting an end to this nonsense once and for all. If no one could’ve guessed, THIS game means a great deal to me (perhaps more than any other that I’ve played here at the Syndicate) and I am not going to let those disingenuous amongst you use my reputation and meta against me here. Yes, I AM TOWN! You can take that to the bank or wherever else you damn well want to - I’m not going to blissfully be mislynched by the forces of #*^%ing Mordor! I’d said it before, and this game has proven it to me now - my continued presence in these games has become truly untenable. Accordingly, please don’t expect that I’ll be returning for The Two Towers (as much as that pains me). I’ll have more to say on this matter once this game is ended.
In the meantime, I’m not buying Nutella’s twisted logic for voting me so here... have one of your own!
That said, tell me more about nutella. What parts of her logic seem twisted to you?
Long Con is accusing nutella of being mafia for this:
nutella's first two posts in Fiddler on the Roof Mafia was hip jargon. One was a Hebrew phrase, and the other was "boom rekt."Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:13 pmYour post is rife with hip jargon that I don't feel is natural for you. That's not how you usually talk, is it? It just pinged me as possibly forced and fake.nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:03 pmso you suspect me? why?Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:00 pmThat was my initial take on it.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:38 pmU badnutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:27 pmyou're asking all these questions to the point of sounding fake
idk the chance that you're actually teammates is probably pretty low, especially with all this interaction right after the game thread opens on day 0, but still I could see it as a possibility based on this behavior. and making a bold assertion like this should stimulate the discussion. hence the hot take
Let me holla atchy'all wid two observations:Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:07 am nutella, I can see you're shaking things up here, you're probably like "I always get lynched for blah blah, so fuck it, I'm just going to do this instead!: or something, but you're making me so very suspicious. You are my oldest Mafia friend and I love you, but I'm voting for you as well.
what do you think of the content he's provided through that self-imposed restriction?insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:02 pmEveryone say it with me.
"SELF-IMPOSED POSTING RESTRICTIONS ARE NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENT."
Been down this road too many damn times.
Yes, it must be hard to remember anything anybody else says when you're busy posting every thirty-seven seconds and singing backup on "Summer Nights."
about as much content as anyone else in this gameSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:37 pmwhat do you think of the content he's provided through that self-imposed restriction?insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:02 pmEveryone say it with me.
"SELF-IMPOSED POSTING RESTRICTIONS ARE NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENT."
Been down this road too many damn times.
Oh puh-leeze. What is this, you're feeling the valid pressure from Mac already and you need to turn to the low-hanging fruit of Long Con? "I don't like it." Well, la di da. *vote Sloonei*
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:10 pmYour question of nutella was a bad look. Her feelings were justified and needn't elaboration. You were faking confusion to make someone who is attracting heat justify something that was obvious. I believe it is because of a mixture of a) you aren't genuinely trying to find the bad guys b) you are hoping to build a mislynch or c) you are both bad and you are establishing distance.
I agree that it's unproductive to ignore or suspect a player purely for doing a thing like this. As a host, I watched wilgy get lynched for exactly this on Day 1 despite having the best reads in the game. But the gimmick is still a topic in the thread. It's something that can be talked about. If anything I am inclined to town read Jack off the bat because this sort of thing paints a huge target on any player who chooses to operate like this.insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:02 pmabout as much content as anyone else in this gameSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:37 pmwhat do you think of the content he's provided through that self-imposed restriction?insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:02 pmEveryone say it with me.
"SELF-IMPOSED POSTING RESTRICTIONS ARE NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENT."
Been down this road too many damn times.
I went through this exact song and dance in WTNV Mafia with Ricochet, where we were both potential civilian BTSC buddies who were at each others throats the entire game because of his emoji gimmick.
And saw this exact song and dance happen in Blue Velvet Mafia when Ricochet found out the entire mafia team on like Day 2, and no one paid attention because of his gimmick.
I have reached a point where I don't give a shit about gimmicks. Frankly, people who harp on about them draw both my attention and my suspicion.
If I have to go through another game where people make it a major issue, I'm gonna be quite cross.
Nope. Sue me.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:10 pmI agree that it's unproductive to ignore or suspect a player purely for doing a thing like this. As a host, I watched wilgy get lynched for exactly this on Day 1 despite having the best reads in the game. But the gimmick is still a topic in the thread. It's something that can be talked about. If anything I am inclined to town read Jack off the bat because this sort of thing paints a huge target on any player who chooses to operate like this.insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:02 pmabout as much content as anyone else in this gameSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:37 pmwhat do you think of the content he's provided through that self-imposed restriction?insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:02 pmEveryone say it with me.
"SELF-IMPOSED POSTING RESTRICTIONS ARE NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENT."
Been down this road too many damn times.
I went through this exact song and dance in WTNV Mafia with Ricochet, where we were both potential civilian BTSC buddies who were at each others throats the entire game because of his emoji gimmick.
And saw this exact song and dance happen in Blue Velvet Mafia when Ricochet found out the entire mafia team on like Day 2, and no one paid attention because of his gimmick.
I have reached a point where I don't give a shit about gimmicks. Frankly, people who harp on about them draw both my attention and my suspicion.
If I have to go through another game where people make it a major issue, I'm gonna be quite cross.
That said, I was explicitly not asking you about this here. Can you give a GTH read on Jack?
Oh, come on, Glorf! You have a good thing going, but you ruin it with this kind of thing! Way cooler to just not say anything. I was looking forward to a game of that, where you weather the questions with polite aloofness or something.Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:02 pm Very well. I’m putting an end to this nonsense once and for all. If no one could’ve guessed, THIS game means a great deal to me (perhaps more than any other that I’ve played here at the Syndicate) and I am not going to let those disingenuous amongst you use my reputation and meta against me here. Yes, I AM TOWN! You can take that to the bank or wherever else you damn well want to - I’m not going to blissfully be mislynched by the forces of #*^%ing Mordor! I’d said it before, and this game has proven it to me now - my continued presence in these games has become truly untenable. Accordingly, please don’t expect that I’ll be returning for The Two Towers (as much as that pains me). I’ll have more to say on this matter once this game is ended.
In the meantime, I’m not buying Nutella’s twisted logic for voting me so here... have one of your own!
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:09 pm Thanks for the response, nutella, and to Epi for the look back at previous somewhat similar stuff. I don't suspect you for it any more. I just need to pay more attention.
Oh puh-leeze. What is this, you're feeling the valid pressure from Mac already and you need to turn to the low-hanging fruit of Long Con? "I don't like it." Well, la di da. *vote Sloonei*
what's your read on nutella in light of these new developments?who you gonna vote for?
You are most kind, Master Sloonei and I wish that what you said were true (about finding a place where my personal convictions don’t interfere with gameplay, etc.) but I think we all know that place doesn’t exist and only ever could after a great deal of disappointment and frustration both on my part and that of the other members of any Town Team I ended up on between now and this side of eternity.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:08 pmI don't think I'm alone in saying that it's a treat to get to play with you, so I hope this sentiment is not permanent. I think we can all find a place where your personal convictions do not interfere with gameplay with more experience.Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:02 pm Very well. I’m putting an end to this nonsense once and for all. If no one could’ve guessed, THIS game means a great deal to me (perhaps more than any other that I’ve played here at the Syndicate) and I am not going to let those disingenuous amongst you use my reputation and meta against me here. Yes, I AM TOWN! You can take that to the bank or wherever else you damn well want to - I’m not going to blissfully be mislynched by the forces of #*^%ing Mordor! I’d said it before, and this game has proven it to me now - my continued presence in these games has become truly untenable. Accordingly, please don’t expect that I’ll be returning for The Two Towers (as much as that pains me). I’ll have more to say on this matter once this game is ended.
In the meantime, I’m not buying Nutella’s twisted logic for voting me so here... have one of your own!
That said, tell me more about nutella. What parts of her logic seem twisted to you?
Sounds like posting for the sake of posting to me.dunno
No, I’m sure you never intended to force me into breaking any vow - that wasn’t your plan. You thought I’d stand by my principles and that would make me an easy mislynch - I can see through you...nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:11 pmSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:08 pmI don't think I'm alone in saying that it's a treat to get to play with you, so I hope this sentiment is not permanent. I think we can all find a place where your personal convictions do not interfere with gameplay with more experience.Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:02 pm Very well. I’m putting an end to this nonsense once and for all. If no one could’ve guessed, THIS game means a great deal to me (perhaps more than any other that I’ve played here at the Syndicate) and I am not going to let those disingenuous amongst you use my reputation and meta against me here. Yes, I AM TOWN! You can take that to the bank or wherever else you damn well want to - I’m not going to blissfully be mislynched by the forces of #*^%ing Mordor! I’d said it before, and this game has proven it to me now - my continued presence in these games has become truly untenable. Accordingly, please don’t expect that I’ll be returning for The Two Towers (as much as that pains me). I’ll have more to say on this matter once this game is ended.
In the meantime, I’m not buying Nutella’s twisted logic for voting me so here... have one of your own!
That said, tell me more about nutella. What parts of her logic seem twisted to you?
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:02 pm Very well. I’m putting an end to this nonsense once and for all. If no one could’ve guessed, THIS game means a great deal to me (perhaps more than any other that I’ve played here at the Syndicate) and I am not going to let those disingenuous amongst you use my reputation and meta against me here. Yes, I AM TOWN! You can take that to the bank or wherever else you damn well want to - I’m not going to blissfully be mislynched by the forces of #*^%ing Mordor! I’d said it before, and this game has proven it to me now - my continued presence in these games has become truly untenable. Accordingly, please don’t expect that I’ll be returning for The Two Towers (as much as that pains me). I’ll have more to say on this matter once this game is ended.
In the meantime, I’m not buying Nutella’s twisted logic for voting me so here... have one of your own!
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:02 pmabout as much content as anyone else in this gameSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:37 pmwhat do you think of the content he's provided through that self-imposed restriction?insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:02 pmEveryone say it with me.
"SELF-IMPOSED POSTING RESTRICTIONS ARE NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENT."
Been down this road too many damn times.
I went through this exact song and dance in WTNV Mafia with Ricochet, where we were both potential civilian BTSC buddies who were at each others throats the entire game because of his emoji gimmick.
And saw this exact song and dance happen in Blue Velvet Mafia when Ricochet found out the entire mafia team on like Day 2, and no one paid attention because of his gimmick.
I have reached a point where I don't give a shit about gimmicks. Frankly, people who harp on about them draw both my attention and my suspicion.
If I have to go through another game where people make it a major issue, I'm gonna be quite cross.
What's wrong with posting for the sake of posting/for the sake of stimulating discussion? That's literally what D1 is all about. Gotta stir the pot. Gotta make takes while they're hot. And I recognize that Sloonei is doing what he usually does but I felt like he was doing it a little too much/asking questions that sounded forced or had already been more or less answered.Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:19 pmYou are most kind, Master Sloonei and I wish that what you said were true (about finding a place where my personal convictions don’t interfere with gameplay, etc.) but I think we all know that place doesn’t exist and only ever could after a great deal of disappointment and frustration both on my part and that of the other members of any Town Team I ended up on between now and this side of eternity.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:08 pmI don't think I'm alone in saying that it's a treat to get to play with you, so I hope this sentiment is not permanent. I think we can all find a place where your personal convictions do not interfere with gameplay with more experience.Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:02 pm Very well. I’m putting an end to this nonsense once and for all. If no one could’ve guessed, THIS game means a great deal to me (perhaps more than any other that I’ve played here at the Syndicate) and I am not going to let those disingenuous amongst you use my reputation and meta against me here. Yes, I AM TOWN! You can take that to the bank or wherever else you damn well want to - I’m not going to blissfully be mislynched by the forces of #*^%ing Mordor! I’d said it before, and this game has proven it to me now - my continued presence in these games has become truly untenable. Accordingly, please don’t expect that I’ll be returning for The Two Towers (as much as that pains me). I’ll have more to say on this matter once this game is ended.
In the meantime, I’m not buying Nutella’s twisted logic for voting me so here... have one of your own!
That said, tell me more about nutella. What parts of her logic seem twisted to you?
As for Nutella:
1. Post #36In this post, she accuses you (Master Sloonei) of sounding fake for doing precisely what you should do to drive the game forward and usually do (from my observation of your playstyle) - asking search questions. She then dismisses the probability of an ‘ingame partnership’ and then claims that her raising its likelihood should be sufficient reason to stimulate discussion... on what, precisely? Please tell me, because I have no ideaSpoiler: show
Not a defense of Kyle's alignment. A defense of the thought process of one post he made. Coincidence that I agreed with him on you later.Glorfindel wrote:2. Post #72Kinda firm defense of Kyle here whom she will later sheep his vote onto me.Spoiler: show
No. Natural expression of what I thought at the time was a great catch.Glorfindel wrote:3. Post #140Flippant. Cheap. Weak.Spoiler: show
Again, my actual thought process. Completely organic. And I always waffle. Not intentionally "blowing smoke," just trying to figure out where I stood. I don't want to mislynch you, and after gaining perspective from what Sloonei pointed out I reconsidered my stance because the evidence up until then caused me to believe you were most likely bad. I changed my mind. Happens.Glorfindel wrote:4. Post #173Again, the summation of all that Nutella has put in this post is WIFOM and semantics - the kind that I suspect a Mafia would employ to blow smoke around what they might consider an easy mis-lynch. I mightn’t feel so strongly at this point had I limited interaction with her since I’ve been on this site but she’s been round long enough to know the score.Spoiler: show
No. I legitimately thought you were bad until Sloonei explained your previously expressed intention to avoid stating alignment. When I found out about that, I decided that you were about equally likely to be town, but I still wanted to hear from you yourself that you indeed intended to avoid such statements. Again and again I repeat this point: I, and I think Kyle as well, would have backed off of you if you had confirmed that you were following that plan to avoid answering alignment questions. You DID NOT NEED TO SAY I AM TOWN. YOU JUST HAD TO CONFIRM THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT TO SAY. And I would have backed off. I never wanted to mislynch you. I suspected you when I thought you were bad for a completely legitimate reason, backed off partially when Sloonei provided the quote from the other game, but was still hesitant because you had not acknowledged that motive. If you had acknowledged it I would have completely backed off. Instead you decided to just go ahead and say you're town, so good luck next time you're mafiaGlorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:25 pmNo, I’m sure you never intended to force me into breaking any vow - that wasn’t your plan. You thought I’d stand by my principles and that would make me an easy mislynch - I can see through you...nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:11 pmSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:08 pmI don't think I'm alone in saying that it's a treat to get to play with you, so I hope this sentiment is not permanent. I think we can all find a place where your personal convictions do not interfere with gameplay with more experience.Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:02 pm Very well. I’m putting an end to this nonsense once and for all. If no one could’ve guessed, THIS game means a great deal to me (perhaps more than any other that I’ve played here at the Syndicate) and I am not going to let those disingenuous amongst you use my reputation and meta against me here. Yes, I AM TOWN! You can take that to the bank or wherever else you damn well want to - I’m not going to blissfully be mislynched by the forces of #*^%ing Mordor! I’d said it before, and this game has proven it to me now - my continued presence in these games has become truly untenable. Accordingly, please don’t expect that I’ll be returning for The Two Towers (as much as that pains me). I’ll have more to say on this matter once this game is ended.
In the meantime, I’m not buying Nutella’s twisted logic for voting me so here... have one of your own!
That said, tell me more about nutella. What parts of her logic seem twisted to you?
I'm illiterate. So...
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:40 pm Spent line twenty minutes trying to make a rainbow list on mobile with quotes and smilies and my daughter closed the damn tab.
