The Syndicate

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:02 am

Vompatti wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:18 am I usually randomize in these games, but this time I think it might be an interesting strategy to at least begin by voting off some of the "bad guys". And since in the beginning of the game only the "bad guys" themselves know who they are, it is likely that anyone who knowingly votes for anyone other than oneself is a "bad guy".

...so you're saying I should just vote for myself? If everyone who is not a bad guy took this advice we would end up with a randomized lynch on day one. Not a good idea.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:04 am

Vompatti wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:00 am [VOTE: sig] aubergine

Hi Vomps, can you explain what you see in sig that would cause you to vote for him?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:05 am

sig wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:01 am

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:57 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:58 pm i've got a very important potential way to catch allllll the mafia, so someone please remind me about this idea that I have at the beginning of day 1 okay? okay

sig, did someone else already remind you of this? If not, I'm reminding you.

Yeah, it fell flat. I suggested day 1 we look at the people who posted about their scary experience a bit closer for two reasons.

1. Mafia tend to read the rules more imo
2. If just one mafia member read the rules they'd post it in BTSC and the teammates would do it.

Nobody else seemed to think it was a good idea, so I'm keeping it in my back pocket until we get more flips and see if I'm right.

Thanks for pointing it out though!

How did you come to believe #1? Are you more likely to read the rules as Mafia?

sig wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:26 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:05 am

sig wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:01 am

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:57 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:58 pm i've got a very important potential way to catch allllll the mafia, so someone please remind me about this idea that I have at the beginning of day 1 okay? okay

sig, did someone else already remind you of this? If not, I'm reminding you.

Yeah, it fell flat. I suggested day 1 we look at the people who posted about their scary experience a bit closer for two reasons.

1. Mafia tend to read the rules more imo
2. If just one mafia member read the rules they'd post it in BTSC and the teammates would do it.

Nobody else seemed to think it was a good idea, so I'm keeping it in my back pocket until we get more flips and see if I'm right.

Thanks for pointing it out though!

How did you come to believe #1? Are you more likely to read the rules as Mafia?

Well up until this post yeah, now I gotta stop so its not a scum tell.

The idea behind it is that I'm more tactical as scum and wanna look civvie so I read the rules since I care more about looking high speed/sup town.
Now Ik not everyone is like that and some civs read the rules but I've not read the rules as a civ since like my first few games here.

Vompatti wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:25 am

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:04 am

Vompatti wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:00 am [VOTE: sig] aubergine

Hi Vomps, can you explain what you see in sig that would cause you to vote for him?

No.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:05 am

sig wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:01 am

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:57 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:58 pm i've got a very important potential way to catch allllll the mafia, so someone please remind me about this idea that I have at the beginning of day 1 okay? okay

sig, did someone else already remind you of this? If not, I'm reminding you.

Yeah, it fell flat. I suggested day 1 we look at the people who posted about their scary experience a bit closer for two reasons.

1. Mafia tend to read the rules more imo
2. If just one mafia member read the rules they'd post it in BTSC and the teammates would do it.

Nobody else seemed to think it was a good idea, so I'm keeping it in my back pocket until we get more flips and see if I'm right.

Thanks for pointing it out though!

How did you come to believe #1? Are you more likely to read the rules as Mafia?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:47 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:53 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:48 pm @juliets do you ever do the thing where you dip the wendy's fries into the wendy's frostie? have you ever tried that

um, no I didn't even know that was a thing! I should have made all my posts about this in off-topic green.

anything pertaining to the topic of wendy's is always considered on topic

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:57 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:53 pm YAY game!

I dunno...I was playing music in my classroom and I was a good two minutes into "Party Up" by DMX before I realized that the song was highly inappropriate for school and then I realized two of my bosses were also doing a pop-in.

I almost pooped myself.

Lets not get into a bitch fight between days 1-3 this game as civs.

But oh man day 4 its onnnnnnnn thunderdome style

Vompatti wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:25 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:02 am

Vompatti wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:18 am I usually randomize in these games, but this time I think it might be an interesting strategy to at least begin by voting off some of the "bad guys". And since in the beginning of the game only the "bad guys" themselves know who they are, it is likely that anyone who knowingly votes for anyone other than oneself is a "bad guy".

...so you're saying I should just vote for myself? If everyone who is not a bad guy took this advice we would end up with a randomized lynch on day one. Not a good idea.

In a well-balanced game randomization is almost always the best strategy, especially on day one.

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juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:04 am

Vompatti wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:00 am [VOTE: sig] aubergine

Hi Vomps, can you explain what you see in sig that would cause you to vote for him?

No.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:35 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:47 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:53 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:48 pm @juliets do you ever do the thing where you dip the wendy's fries into the wendy's frostie? have you ever tried that

um, no I didn't even know that was a thing! I should have made all my posts about this in off-topic green.

anything pertaining to the topic of wendy's is always considered on topic

I disagree, then again I don't like Wendy's.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:31 am

Vompatti wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:25 am

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:04 am

Vompatti wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:00 am [VOTE: sig] aubergine

Hi Vomps, can you explain what you see in sig that would cause you to vote for him?

No.

I see. So you are not interested in convincing us he is bad?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:36 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:35 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:47 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:53 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:48 pm @juliets do you ever do the thing where you dip the wendy's fries into the wendy's frostie? have you ever tried that

um, no I didn't even know that was a thing! I should have made all my posts about this in off-topic green.

anything pertaining to the topic of wendy's is always considered on topic

I disagree, then again I don't like Wendy's.

As if I even needed a reason to [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:30 am

sig wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:26 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:05 am

sig wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:01 am

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:57 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:58 pm i've got a very important potential way to catch allllll the mafia, so someone please remind me about this idea that I have at the beginning of day 1 okay? okay

sig, did someone else already remind you of this? If not, I'm reminding you.

Yeah, it fell flat. I suggested day 1 we look at the people who posted about their scary experience a bit closer for two reasons.

1. Mafia tend to read the rules more imo
2. If just one mafia member read the rules they'd post it in BTSC and the teammates would do it.

Nobody else seemed to think it was a good idea, so I'm keeping it in my back pocket until we get more flips and see if I'm right.

Thanks for pointing it out though!

How did you come to believe #1? Are you more likely to read the rules as Mafia?

Well up until this post yeah, now I gotta stop so its not a scum tell.

The idea behind it is that I'm more tactical as scum and wanna look civvie so I read the rules since I care more about looking high speed/sup town.
Now Ik not everyone is like that and some civs read the rules but I've not read the rules as a civ since like my first few games here.

Would you describe your behavior so far as high speed/super town?

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:39 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:36 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:35 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:47 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:53 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:48 pm @juliets do you ever do the thing where you dip the wendy's fries into the wendy's frostie? have you ever tried that

um, no I didn't even know that was a thing! I should have made all my posts about this in off-topic green.

anything pertaining to the topic of wendy's is always considered on topic

I disagree, then again I don't like Wendy's.

As if I even needed a reason to [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

I've been spotted.

Tell me Turnip Head, why'd you roll mafia this game?

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:35 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:57 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:53 pm YAY game!

I dunno...I was playing music in my classroom and I was a good two minutes into "Party Up" by DMX before I realized that the song was highly inappropriate for school and then I realized two of my bosses were also doing a pop-in.

I almost pooped myself.

Lets not get into a bitch fight between days 1-3 this game as civs.

But oh man day 4 its onnnnnnnn thunderdome style

What's a bitchfight?

King Ramses wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:41 am Retuuuurn the slaaaaab. Or suffee my cuuurse.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:40 pm @nijuukyugou HEY! it's been forever so long in fact I've kinda forgot your meta. Would ya mind telling me your civ and mafia meta when you get the chance and the biggest difference between the two?

@Fractal Welcome! And same question I asked Niju

King Ramses wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:41 am Retuuuurn the slaaaaab. Or suffee my cuuurse.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:39 am Sig has been probably the most vocal player in the thread so far. What do people think of his ideas?

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:32 pm Oh, wait, Marmot is in this game! Here I am thinking I need to carry the torch.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:02 am

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:38 pm Okay can someone who didn't read the rules give me their opinion on this? I feel like Luna and speed may be a wee bit bias. :p

I don't have a problem with the fact it's punishing people who read rules but there is a big chance mafia didn't bother to mention this in the chat. Some mafias don't even fully join BTSC before Day 0 ends. So it's not really concusive.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:28 am I'll take everyone's word on it, since it appears people seem to be in agreement that it's NAI and just hope I'm right end game so i can brag. If I'm wrong though we'll pretend this never happened.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:46 am Townread me Fractal, please, k thanks.

Fractal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:47 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:46 am Townread me Fractal, please, k thanks.

If you're town I'll get there eventually, if you wanna speed things up give me a spicy read. ^^

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:48 am

Fractal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:47 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:46 am Townread me Fractal, please, k thanks.

If you're town I'll get there eventually, if you wanna speed things up give me a spicy read. ^^

You're scum.

But feel free to post strong townreads of me, it'll be a good point of reference when you nightkill me. :beer:

Vompatti wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:18 am I usually randomize in these games, but this time I think it might be an interesting strategy to at least begin by voting off some of the "bad guys". And since in the beginning of the game only the "bad guys" themselves know who they are, it is likely that anyone who knowingly votes for anyone other than oneself is a "bad guy".

Fractal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:51 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:48 am

Fractal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:47 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:46 am Townread me Fractal, please, k thanks.

If you're town I'll get there eventually, if you wanna speed things up give me a spicy read. ^^

You're scum.

But feel free to post strong townreads of me, it'll be a good point of reference when you nightkill me.

Why do you think so?

Fractal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:45 am Thoughts on Sig: I thought his comment early d1 saying "OKAY no more shit posting time to get serious!" struck me as a little awkward considering how the thread looked at the time. And if he actually thought there was something more productive to do than shitposting, why not just go do it instead of announcing "hey guys im gonna go be towny and solve now". Seemed like it might've been for show.

But then i think the way he seemed disappointed about no one picking up on his first-post-strategy felt like he genuinely thought he was onto something good and then felt a bit let down when people didn't believe in it. This would be faked emotion if he was scum and knew all alignments and I don't feel like it was fake. So I think that part is far more towny than the suspicious thing is scummy so Sig is my first townread.

my only tiny suspicion so far is Colin.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:39 am Sig has been probably the most vocal player in the thread so far. What do people think of his ideas?

This question i could see as him prodding around and seeing what others stances on sig's theory was before he gave his own so he could adapt his own stance based on what would benefit him. It's really thin though.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:50 am I'm going to [VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine because I think it would be cool to try a randomized day one lynch, and DDL is the next one down on the poll who needs a vote.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:01 pm

Fractal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:45 am Thoughts on Sig: I thought his comment early d1 saying "OKAY no more shit posting time to get serious!" struck me as a little awkward considering how the thread looked at the time. And if he actually thought there was something more productive to do than shitposting, why not just go do it instead of announcing "hey guys im gonna go be towny and solve now". Seemed like it might've been for show.

But then i think the way he seemed disappointed about no one picking up on his first-post-strategy felt like he genuinely thought he was onto something good and then felt a bit let down when people didn't believe in it. This would be faked emotion if he was scum and knew all alignments and I don't feel like it was fake. So I think that part is far more towny than the suspicious thing is scummy so Sig is my first townread.

my only tiny suspicion so far is Colin.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:39 am Sig has been probably the most vocal player in the thread so far. What do people think of his ideas?

This question i could see as him prodding around and seeing what others stances on sig's theory was before he gave his own so he could adapt his own stance based on what would benefit him. It's really thin though.

Very incisive. I did want to see what other people thought of sig’s thing but mostly because I couldn’t decide whether it made him look scummy or not for the exact reasons you outline. Good stuff.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:11 pm Hi Fractal! Remind me what mafia site(s) you hail from? Nice to meet you :D

Fractal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:05 pm I don't approve random voting d1 at all. Where people push and for what reasons are one of the top things we can use the coming days. We'll have less info day 2, and less intresting conversations, which will lead to less info d3 etc etc.

Let's just make reads the best we can imo.

I see the points of it, but i don't think the info-loss coming days is worth the slight increase of chance to lynch scum today but randomizing.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:15 pm

Fractal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:05 pm I don't approve random voting d1 at all. Where people push and for what reasons are one of the top things we can use the coming days. We'll have less info day 2, and less intresting conversations, which will lead to less info d3 etc etc.

Let's just make reads the best we can imo.

I see the points of it, but i don't think the info-loss coming days is worth the slight increase of chance to lynch scum today but randomizing.

I like this guy.

Fractal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:11 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:01 pm

Fractal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:45 am Thoughts on Sig: I thought his comment early d1 saying "OKAY no more shit posting time to get serious!" struck me as a little awkward considering how the thread looked at the time. And if he actually thought there was something more productive to do than shitposting, why not just go do it instead of announcing "hey guys im gonna go be towny and solve now". Seemed like it might've been for show.

But then i think the way he seemed disappointed about no one picking up on his first-post-strategy felt like he genuinely thought he was onto something good and then felt a bit let down when people didn't believe in it. This would be faked emotion if he was scum and knew all alignments and I don't feel like it was fake. So I think that part is far more towny than the suspicious thing is scummy so Sig is my first townread.

my only tiny suspicion so far is Colin.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:39 am Sig has been probably the most vocal player in the thread so far. What do people think of his ideas?

This question i could see as him prodding around and seeing what others stances on sig's theory was before he gave his own so he could adapt his own stance based on what would benefit him. It's really thin though.

Very incisive. I did want to see what other people thought of sig’s thing but mostly because I couldn’t decide whether it made him look scummy or not for the exact reasons you outline. Good stuff.

Can you go into a bit which kinds of answer from people would make you think Sig's thing was scummy and which answers would make you think it was not?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:21 pm Let's lynch speedchuck who's with me

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:25 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:21 pm Let's lynch speedchuck who's with me

Me!

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:27 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:25 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:21 pm Let's lynch speedchuck who's with me

Me!

Knew I could count on you buddy

Let's just wait and see if I actually want to though. Kind of a whimsical impulse but who knows