Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I do have plans for this, so I'd appreciate total participation.

Let's do an exercise! Yay!

I would like everyone to name two civilian reads and two suspects. Please and thank you for your efforts toward a civilian victory.

[Epignosis]

HELL-o. Please check in.

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I'm here!
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71%


Voters: leetic, sabie12, colonialbob, novaselinenever, nutella, JaggedJimmyJay, speedchuck, Lunalee, Jackofhearts2005, Elohcin

I'm not.
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29%


Voters: reywaS, Quin, Epignosis, Sloonei


Total votes: 14

[Epignosis]

Whore

It is now Day 1. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I want to make certain everyone is aware of this in case there was any breezing through the rules:

1. This is a semi-open setup. Role claiming is illegal. Info-dumping is illegal. If I think that you have done either or even role-hinted, you will be lynched that Day phase. This is a game about cautionary tales. Don't become a cautionary tale.

[novaselinenever]

[VOTE: Sabie] aubergine

[leetic]

Alright, so I'm gonna look at everyone's ISOs and try to make some reads. Now, they may not be very good reads, as nothing major has happened yet, I'm not very familiar with most of you, and most of the posts seem to be a bit jokey, plus I am still not used to this level of activity, as this thread already has more posts than many games on Bulbagarden get in their lifespan! Still, I figured I should be doing something, so let's see how this goes.

AudreyTheTattleTail - Doesn't seem to have done anything yet, so complete null. If a wagon started forming around her, I'd say a town lean, but since nobody has really said anything opinionated about her, it's as null as you can go.

colonialbob - Slight scumlean. Seems to be following along with what other people are saying, then there is him looking a bit much into a minor mistake by JJJ. Still, nothing too major.

Elohcin - Mostly null, a bit of a town lean. He seems to be posting his thoughts a little and avoid minor drama. Still, hasn't done too much.

JackofHearts2005 - Posted a lot, but very little was game related. For that reason, slight scum lean.

JaggedJimmyJay - Town lean. Wanting there to be a lot of activity is certainly an admirable goal, as I find that an inactive town always benefits scum, plus has already started attempts at scumhunting. As a side note, the only player of the bunch I am really familiar with.

leetic - Definitely an independent serial killer, should lynch asap What do you think

Lunalee - Townlean I guess, her ideas to not read people too much based on early posts seems reasonable. Seems to have disappeared after page 1, though.

novaselinever - Scumlean. Seems a bit defensive compared to previous users on the list. Still though, nothing too major.

nutella - Seems even more defensive than Nova, so scumlean for me.

reywaS - Null, most posts have been jokey. Nothing really to suggest a scumlean, though.

sabie12 - A bit townlean, seems reasonable enough. Again, the low amount of game related activity from this person prevents me from saying anything too conclusive.

Sloonei - Null, doesn't seem to have posted anything relevant at all.

speedchuck - The pushing of nutella makes him a townlean to me.

Alright, so looking through this list, it seems nutella is my biggest scumlean, so VOTE: nutella to see their reactions.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Elohcin - Mostly null, a bit of a town lean. He seems to be posting his thoughts a little and avoid minor drama. Still, hasn't done too much.

Thanks for the reads, leetic. Can you expand a little on what you observed from Elohcin that led you to the conclusion I highlighted? Also, she's a she (just FYI ).

[leetic]

Elohcin - Mostly null, a bit of a town lean. He seems to be posting his thoughts a little and avoid minor drama. Still, hasn't done too much.

Thanks for the reads, leetic. Can you expand a little on what you observed from Elohcin that led you to the conclusion I highlighted? Also, she's a she (just FYI ).

She posted a little about you and nutella, and seems to have disregarded the drama of you saying someone else's name. Not much, which is why I mostly consider her null, but more than a couple others have done.

[novaselinenever]

Alright, so I'm gonna look at everyone's ISOs and try to make some reads. Now, they may not be very good reads, as nothing major has happened yet, I'm not very familiar with most of you, and most of the posts seem to be a bit jokey, plus I am still not used to this level of activity, as this thread already has more posts than many games on Bulbagarden get in their lifespan! Still, I figured I should be doing something, so let's see how this goes.

AudreyTheTattleTail - Doesn't seem to have done anything yet, so complete null. If a wagon started forming around her, I'd say a town lean, but since nobody has really said anything opinionated about her, it's as null as you can go.

colonialbob - Slight scumlean. Seems to be following along with what other people are saying, then there is him looking a bit much into a minor mistake by JJJ. Still, nothing too major.

Elohcin - Mostly null, a bit of a town lean. He seems to be posting his thoughts a little and avoid minor drama. Still, hasn't done too much.

JackofHearts2005 - Posted a lot, but very little was game related. For that reason, slight scum lean.

JaggedJimmyJay - Town lean. Wanting there to be a lot of activity is certainly an admirable goal, as I find that an inactive town always benefits scum, plus has already started attempts at scumhunting. As a side note, the only player of the bunch I am really familiar with.

leetic - Definitely an independent serial killer, should lynch asap What do you think

Lunalee - Townlean I guess, her ideas to not read people too much based on early posts seems reasonable. Seems to have disappeared after page 1, though.

novaselinever - Scumlean. Seems a bit defensive compared to previous users on the list. Still though, nothing too major.

nutella - Seems even more defensive than Nova, so scumlean for me.

reywaS - Null, most posts have been jokey. Nothing really to suggest a scumlean, though.

sabie12 - A bit townlean, seems reasonable enough. Again, the low amount of game related activity from this person prevents me from saying anything too conclusive.

Sloonei - Null, doesn't seem to have posted anything relevant at all.

speedchuck - The pushing of nutella makes him a townlean to me.

Alright, so looking through this list, it seems nutella is my biggest scumlean, so VOTE: nutella to see their reactions.

I wasn't trying to be defensive

[novaselinenever]

Wait a minute, that's what a defensive person would say...

[novaselinenever]

I do have plans for this, so I'd appreciate total participation.

Let's do an exercise! Yay!

I would like everyone to name two civilian reads and two suspects. Please and thank you for your efforts toward a civilian victory.

Aren't you going to participate?

[novaselinenever]

Be the change you want to see in the world

[AudreyTheTattletail]

smell the flowers when the sun rises. Get cosy warm when the night is cold. Always have sweet dreams. Each and every day and night just remember love is family.

[Jackofhearts2005]

JackofHearts2005 - Posted a lot, but very little was game related. For that reason, slight scum lean.

Welcome to my town and scum meta for early game. One upon a time, a guy named Rokk Krinn told me that my meta was to act like I was messing around and then suddenly the trap swings shut and I lynch the mafia or setup a key mislynch. You never see it coming.

Now, I think that was a bit generous of him but it's true that I tend to joke around early and turn serious later, when I have a better feel for things.

Anyway.

Townread - Jay for the effort.

Scumread - Speed for buddying Jay and the bleh push on Nutella.

It's like 5 posts into D1. I'm me. I don't have 2 townreads and 2 scumreads yet.

[novaselinenever]

JackofHearts2005 - Posted a lot, but very little was game related. For that reason, slight scum lean.

Welcome to my town and scum meta for early game. One upon a time, a guy named Rokk Krinn told me that my meta was to act like I was messing around and then suddenly the trap swings shut and I lynch the mafia or setup a key mislynch. You never see it coming.

Now, I think that was a bit generous of him but it's true that I tend to joke around early and turn serious later, when I have a better feel for things.

Anyway.

Townread - Jay for the effort.

Scumread - Speed for buddying Jay and the bleh push on Nutella.

It's like 5 posts into D1. I'm me. I don't have 2 townreads and 2 scumreads yet.

I'll be your second townread. What say you?

[leetic]

Well, it seems I have already started a wagon. I'm not sure what to think about that, considering the other user on it hasn't been active.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Effort isn't really the right word for it. He wants to get in there and mix things up. He's fucking relishing this game. Yeah, you can get this kind of enjoyment out of playing as scum but it comes later from when you can see the winning gamestate coming together or when you pull off a cool power combo or mislynch. It doesn't happen the thread opens. Jay isn't excited to get away with something. He's excited to hunt scum. That's a townie attitude.

[reywaS]

i dismiss it because it makes 3 straight games now where she brings this lame type suspicion of me to the table. She was bad in vanilla. I think she was good in the last one. I was/am civ in all 3. Just sayin...it grows lame after a while.

What do you make of her motivations in this game?

too soon to tell. Could be pot stirring for a read. Could be shit posting for baddie's sake. I can't tell.

I shuffled through her posts about you in Vanilla Mafia and the Socky Awards game, and I couldn't quite find evidence that her suspicions were driven by your humor. It's all interpretive, so you might have felt that was the source of her suspicion anyway. Can you recall something specific she did or said in either game that you feel is happening similarly in this game? Don't go spending time doing an archaeological dig if you can't remember.

no sir, and im drinking bourbon tonight so i could be way off. I might be conflating her into my unjust lynches for bad reasons. shrugs sometimes i talk out of my b-hole

[reywaS]

and by bad i definitely mean mafia reasons. Im bad as fuck boiiiiii


not really but whatevs

[Jackofhearts2005]

JackofHearts2005 - Posted a lot, but very little was game related. For that reason, slight scum lean.

Welcome to my town and scum meta for early game. One upon a time, a guy named Rokk Krinn told me that my meta was to act like I was messing around and then suddenly the trap swings shut and I lynch the mafia or setup a key mislynch. You never see it coming.

Now, I think that was a bit generous of him but it's true that I tend to joke around early and turn serious later, when I have a better feel for things.

Anyway.

Townread - Jay for the effort.

Scumread - Speed for buddying Jay and the bleh push on Nutella.

It's like 5 posts into D1. I'm me. I don't have 2 townreads and 2 scumreads yet.

I'll be your second townread. What say you?

I say I don't think I've ever had a confident read on you on D5, let alone start of D1. Rejected.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Be the change you want to see in the world

I did a whole rainbow.

Good: bob, nova

Bad: Sloonei, speedchuck

[Jackofhearts2005]

*goes to push the check votecount button*

*realizes I'm not on MU*

[AudreyTheTattletail]

i promise you nutella is a were wolf otherwise why would she use lots of bad words in a small sentense if she's not a were wolf well than who else could be seriously.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: Speedchuck[/v]] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

i promise you nutella is a were wolf otherwise why would she use lots of bad words in a small sentense if she's not a were wolf well than who else could be seriously.

Hi Audrey!

[mention]nutella[/mention]

[reywaS]

im still curious why nutella thinks my read post was serious. Waiting for a response. Thanks.

[reywaS]

i mean...it was totes serious as fuggg...im just curious why she saw thru my funnies

[JaggedJimmyJay]

rey looks good now. Y’all do things and we’ll be solved by sundown.

[nutella]

i promise you nutella is a were wolf otherwise why would she use lots of bad words in a small sentense if she's not a were wolf well than who else could be seriously.

Did I use bad words? Well excuse me Doesn't mean I'm a bad person. In the game or otherwise..... I hope.

[mention]leetic[/mention] can you elaborate on your suspicion of me a bit? When/where/how did I seem defensive?

[nutella]

And specifically defensive in a way that looks scummy? You can't just drop the word "defensive" as a reason to vote someone; civilians are defensive all the time.

[nutella]

im still curious why nutella thinks my read post was serious. Waiting for a response. Thanks.

It didn't contain any obvious jokes/sarcasm aside from the double e thing. Besides that part it looked like you were giving your actual (albeit largely non-committal) initial thoughts on the players. Also I read it like two minutes after getting out of bed so

[leetic]

Here's a couple examples:

Sloonei could be bad. Need more data. Cbob need more data too

Really?

Yep.

Filler post. And you said REY was trying too hard? Bugger off with that.

The fuck is a filler post? Do you not want me to generate content? I don't believe you really suspect me for that post. You just thought it would be an easy thing to appear suspicious of.

Looks a bit OMGUS-y, plus he had a legitimate point that your post did not really contain much elaboration or purpose.

And what's your beef with my observation that Rey is trying too hard? Did you look favorably upon his long player list analysis post when there were like 30 posts in the game?

Getting very angry over what was obviously a joke does not seem towny. In your words, "an easy thing to appear suspicious of".

[nutella]

Neither omgus not anger.


Have you played with me before leetic?

[leetic]

Have you played with me before leetic?

No, but I also haven't played with 10 other people here so I only have my intuition to rely on.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Civilian read on leetic solidified. Keep 'em coming.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If at any point someone is confused about a confident civilian read I put into the thread, please ask for clarification. These are serious reads, and I am feeling quite good about the progression of process of elimination right now.

[novaselinenever]

I'm liking Nutella

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Gun-to-head of sorts: has this player at any point said something that I think looks trustworthy?

AudreyTheTattleTail - yes
colonialbob - yes
Elohcin - yes
Jackofhearts2005 - no
leetic - yes
Lunalee - no
novaselinenever - yes
nutella - yes
reywaS - yes
sabie12 - no
Sloonei - no
speedchuck - no

I experienced some dissonance with sabie, who I initially thought looked genuine enough in her responses to suspicion -- but now I am left feeling less inspired. I don't know her stances on things.

[colonialbob]

Let's do an exercise! Yay!

I would like everyone to name two civilian reads and two suspects. Please and thank you for your efforts toward a civilian victory.

Civ: sabie, leetic
Scum: reywas, Sloonei

[sabie12]

Why is nova voting me? With no explanation no less. Uncool man.
Sloonei isn't acting like his usual self. Typically he has mile long posts.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Let's do an exercise! Yay!

I would like everyone to name two civilian reads and two suspects. Please and thank you for your efforts toward a civilian victory.

Civ: sabie, leetic
Scum: reywas, Sloonei

Why Sabie and Rey?

[colonialbob]

That said, [VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine

Come play for reals

[colonialbob]

Let's do an exercise! Yay!

I would like everyone to name two civilian reads and two suspects. Please and thank you for your efforts toward a civilian victory.

Civ: sabie, leetic
Scum: reywas, Sloonei

Why Sabie and Rey?

Sabie's response to "your intro is bad" was "nova and jjj are teammates" which seems ballsy for scum sabie.

When offered an opportunity to talk about nutella Rey went "hmm idk maybe I'm just being silly tho"

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Because everyone likes shiny objects:

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Why is nova voting me? With no explanation no less. Uncool man.
Sloonei isn't acting like his usual self. Typically he has mile long posts.

Would you expect Sloonei to have long posts under the present circumstances as a civilian?

[leetic]

For two of each, these are my strongest leans currently:

Civ: JJJ and Speedchuck
Scum: Nutella and nova

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[mention]novaselinenever[/mention], you should say more in response to [mention]leetic[/mention]'s suspicions.

[novaselinenever]

Why is nova voting me? With no explanation no less. Uncool man.
Sloonei isn't acting like his usual self. Typically he has mile long posts.

Lol.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Why is nova voting me? With no explanation no less. Uncool man.
Sloonei isn't acting like his usual self. Typically he has mile long posts.

You're putting me on the spot here.

It stroke me as weirdly succinct on first read, and I compared it to some of her entry posts in previous games. I have no data on baddie Sabie, however her Civilian self usually starts the game with some chatter. She feels comfortable, and appears easy going.

She comes offcold here, or timid I'd say. Right to the point. I don't care much as well for the general compliment, and the addition of an emoji. Probably an attempt at appearing more friendly.

Him and nova are lovers apparently or teammates

Can't we be just two townies trying to solve the game?

I mean we don't even share the same read on you, I don't know why you keep throwing shade our way and grouping us together as an evil plotting duo.

Haha you guys trying to accuse me because I said hi its gonna be a good group? I didn't have any chatter because no one was on to chat with when I was here. My accusation is nova and Jay must be teammates trying to stir the pot together and get all the suspicions off of them.

I'd like to come back to this. When, and what did Jay accuse you of? He simply asked me to expand my thoughts on you. He has you as green in his rainbow list.

Also, what do you mean by "get all the suspicions off of them"? Has there been any suspicion on any of us to begin with at that time?

Do you actually believe that we are scum teammates?