The Syndicate

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:46 am**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:54 pm Nanook is the low hanging fruit and I suspect everybody who tried to throw shit on him for doing the stuff he basically always does.

I mean i'm terrible at reading nook myself but everybody is and at day 1 it's just laziness.

I think Nanook is a beacon of towniness even in 2 posts when he is town. The fact now is NAI is highly suspicious fmpov

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:54 am**

i dont believe in chopping 0 posters on principle

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:01 am**

Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:54 am i dont believe in chopping 0 posters on principle

What principle is this? I don't see a min posting requirement in the OP. would you be ok to let zero posters coast to F5 after countless town mislynches?

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:04 am**

it's basically just killing people for a lack of activity, and are they ~rand and i don't like that and that's the last ill say on the matter. I'd rather just yeet the most sus active poster

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:12 am**

Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:04 am it's basically just killing people for a lack of activity, and are they ~rand and i don't like that and that's the last ill say on the matter. I'd rather just yeet the most sus active poster

That's fine for now, I'm just posing the dilemma though. In a 14er we should expect 3, maybe 4 mafia. A really easy place to hide is in the inactives if you've got a few useless townies who always slank in there. Let town eat itself then cop some bs "I've been busy" bs once stronger town players have been MK'd and chopped, then steer the town right off a cliff.
It happens on my home site fairly often.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:16 am**

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:45 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:39 am
Creature wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 8:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:31 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:10 pm I think DrWilgy not posting anything so far surprises me the most. WerewolfHunter is a resident slanker and the other two slanking names (arogame123 and Rondo) I have no idea who they are.
Is DrWilgy usually a beacon of activity?
No, but he always posts something early game and I am really suspicious he haven't even made a cameo like he usually does.
Zero activity is NAI don't push Dr.W because of it
Zero actives need to be resolved one way or another, and in a game without town specials, it's not a huge loss to potentially mischop early if a player has a history of being a useless townie / slanker.

Michelle, out of all the inactives right now - who has the least potential to be at all useful?

You want me to guess whom from the zero posters can be useful?
I honestly can't figure.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:17 am**

If I wasnt new here I'd probably push something super reckless just to test the slank pool.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:18 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:16 am
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:45 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:39 am
Creature wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 8:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:31 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:10 pm I think DrWilgy not posting anything so far surprises me the most. WerewolfHunter is a resident slanker and the other two slanking names (arogame123 and Rondo) I have no idea who they are.
Is DrWilgy usually a beacon of activity?
No, but he always posts something early game and I am really suspicious he haven't even made a cameo like he usually does.
Zero activity is NAI don't push Dr.W because of it
Zero actives need to be resolved one way or another, and in a game without town specials, it's not a huge loss to potentially mischop early if a player has a history of being a useless townie / slanker.

Michelle, out of all the inactives right now - who has the least potential to be at all useful?
You want me to guess whom from the zero posters can be useful?
I honestly can't figure.

So you'd say the entire heap of slankers are useless townies even at the best of times?

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:49 am**

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:52 am**

Alignments of characters will be randomized, and mafia will receive cover roles.

This seems important.

Also

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:18 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:16 am
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:45 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:39 am
Creature wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 8:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:31 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:10 pm I think DrWilgy not posting anything so far surprises me the most. WerewolfHunter is a resident slanker and the other two slanking names (arogame123 and Rondo) I have no idea who they are.
Is DrWilgy usually a beacon of activity?
No, but he always posts something early game and I am really suspicious he haven't even made a cameo like he usually does.
Zero activity is NAI don't push Dr.W because of it
Zero actives need to be resolved one way or another, and in a game without town specials, it's not a huge loss to potentially mischop early if a player has a history of being a useless townie / slanker.

Michelle, out of all the inactives right now - who has the least potential to be at all useful?
You want me to guess whom from the zero posters can be useful?
I honestly can't figure.
So you'd say the entire heap of slankers are useless townies even at the best of times?

No sir, what I want to say is that they can't be all wolves and chopping them at random is not a good tactic.
They are not town for me, but they are not scum either.

I would prefer an analysis between the actives

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:52 am**

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:49 am RUDE

What?

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:03 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:52 am
Alignments of characters will be randomized, and mafia will receive cover roles.
This seems important.

Also

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:18 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:16 am
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:45 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:39 am
Creature wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 8:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:31 pm

Is DrWilgy usually a beacon of activity?
No, but he always posts something early game and I am really suspicious he haven't even made a cameo like he usually does.
Zero activity is NAI don't push Dr.W because of it
Zero actives need to be resolved one way or another, and in a game without town specials, it's not a huge loss to potentially mischop early if a player has a history of being a useless townie / slanker.

Michelle, out of all the inactives right now - who has the least potential to be at all useful?
You want me to guess whom from the zero posters can be useful?
I honestly can't figure.
So you'd say the entire heap of slankers are useless townies even at the best of times?
No sir, what I want to say is that they can't be all wolves and chopping them at random is not a good tactic.
They are not town for me, but they are not scum either.

I would prefer an analysis between the actives

You dodged the question, I was asking about the players themselves.

Do you find them (the slankers) to be helpful townies when they're engaged in the game, or are they just net zero no matter when they actually need to be solved?

I'm asking because I don't know the players on this site, and insight from people who actually play here is valuable to me

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:53 am**

Oh, sorry Flanders, i didn't understand (ESL, etc)

Let's see:
DrWilgy has awesome reads as villager and we have itg people who know him enough to make a read.
Rondo is another player I won't chop without infos and he lead the town in a game where only a game throw gave the win to the wolves.
WWH i don't really know him, we played but i don't recall of him to have a distinct meta. Maybe @hollowkatt will help
The one I know nothing about is arogame.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 5:12 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:46 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:54 pm Nanook is the low hanging fruit and I suspect everybody who tried to throw shit on him for doing the stuff he basically always does.

I mean i'm terrible at reading nook myself but everybody is and at day 1 it's just laziness.
I think Nanook is a beacon of towniness even in 2 posts when he is town. The fact now is NAI is highly suspicious fmpov

Lulz

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 5:13 am**

If Michelle pushes me she's mafia if she doesn't she's town

Unironically above rand way to read her

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 5:14 am**

"Lets not kill the zero posters"

Then we get to Fx and there are two zero posters and its "this game is impossible we have two zero posters"

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 5:24 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 5:13 am If Michelle pushes me she's mafia if she doesn't she's town

Unironically above rand way to read her

Nanook if stick to your sort by postcount, good luck with it!

Proove me you are town, otherwise I will keep suspecting you

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 5:33 am**

I have never in my life "proved i was town" and I don't plan to start now

If you can post 100 times today ill sbpc you but I mean

Good luck with that in this game

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 5:45 am**

Do i look like i care about your sbpc?

You always proove yourself town as town. You always reffuse collaboration as wolf.

Whether you want to play active or not, it's your choice Nanook.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:48 am**

Again, when have you ever known me to care about playing how other people tell me to lol

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:48 am**

Also I am playing collaboratively i said dolby is in charge of mech

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:49 am**

Also thats probably the opposite of how most people would describe my town vs mafia game, lol

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:35 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:46 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:54 pm Nanook is the low hanging fruit and I suspect everybody who tried to throw shit on him for doing the stuff he basically always does.

I mean i'm terrible at reading nook myself but everybody is and at day 1 it's just laziness.
I think Nanook is a beacon of towniness even in 2 posts when he is town. The fact now is NAI is highly suspicious fmpov

I don't have that meta myself but I think I believe that you believe in it.

Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:54 am i dont believe in chopping 0 posters on principle

I don't either, but last game I played with Rondo, he saw fit to insult me for having a low post count, even after I gave a RL reason for it, so I think it's fair to demand the same standard from him.

(also I don't currently have an actual suspects and I'm busy rn and not sure if I'll be around EOD so this is a good placeholder)

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:47 am**

After the last game I played, I'm pretty alright with lynching players who are actively not playing. Like, unless it is promised any zeroposter will be modkilled by EOD, I'd rather we lynch them so they don't become a hindrance later.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:48 am**

Also we can probably just lynch the useless players while we rack up more PP.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:51 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:25 am
Creature wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 8:31 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 8:27 pm 1. idk has sloonei even like done anything creature?
Just ISOed them and so far they haven't done anything useful

2. michelle hasn't felt bad and he felt super bad from the outset of a recent game i played with her where she was scum
Perhaps, but I usually catch Michelle as wolf when she is pretty unimpressive and so far none of her posts were notable
Creature: Sloonei wasn't useful, in reads list prob town
Also Creature: Michelle is unimpressive so prob scum.

I wish to understand the difference between not useful and unimpressive Creature and in what game caught you me wolfing recently? Except the team game i don't remember a recent scum game and it wasn’t you catching me there, it was Mac.
I don't accept any other claim from someone allegedly catching me in that game.

Aand you made similar accusations against me in Jaleb's 3/21 Shakespeare game where you were scum so talk to me about your reason to push me and your lack of enthusiasm in this game

I feel like I tend to wolfread Sloonei a lot and I know Sloonei can be a good town player, so I just leave them alone unless it's blatantly obvious they're wolf.

As to you, it's been multiple times you were low hanging and someone townread you for ??? reasons only for you to be wolf, like in a recent mash.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:52 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:32 am
Creature wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 8:27 pm Oh I didn't realize Porscha posted too

So far it has only been fluff

Anyway

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

but I might just vote for Rondo or arogame123 at the end of the day if they keep dodging this thread
The votes on me:
Michelle 2 18% Voters: Creature, RondoDimBuckle

You want to vote Rondo who is voting me, so he has the same opinion as you probably.
Walk me through your thinking process here please

I don't see how Rondo voting you should make me stop pushing you. It's not set in stone he's wolf and it's a bad excuse to not vote someone I believe could be wolf.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:53 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:38 am
Creature wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 8:25 pm idk who I would vote among the active

I think Dolby is town for trying to strategize over the baseball simulation thing

Dragon D. Luffy I believe is town for the solving

falcon is a bit meh for the shade on me but I think he does that every game and is otherwise fine

Sloonei right now I'll assume is town as long they get wolves

Stupid Sexy Flanders seems to be genuinely solving here

NANOOK and hollowkatt I'll hold before putting my finger on them

That leaves Michelle among the active who I could see as wolf and I don't get the townreads on her
You have me in the poe by elimination or because my posts are unimpressive? Make up your mind and tell me which is it pls

Yes, if I look at the active players, I think you're one of the players who have done the least. I doubt the wolfteam is comprised entirely of zeroposters.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:54 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:39 am
Creature wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 8:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:31 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:10 pm I think DrWilgy not posting anything so far surprises me the most. WerewolfHunter is a resident slanker and the other two slanking names (arogame123 and Rondo) I have no idea who they are.
Is DrWilgy usually a beacon of activity?
No, but he always posts something early game and I am really suspicious he haven't even made a cameo like he usually does.
Zero activity is NAI don't push Dr.W because of it

I know DrWilgy is usually a slanker. My main concern about him is that he didn't even make an entrance which he usually does before dipping off.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:55 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:44 am @falcon45ca what's your read on Creature after your interaction?

The same question for @Creature what's your read on Falcon?

I think falcon is town. I can see where his thoughts are coming from and it doesn't feel straight out agenda.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:57 am**

Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:04 am it's basically just killing people for a lack of activity, and are they ~rand and i don't like that and that's the last ill say on the matter. I'd rather just yeet the most sus active poster

I used to avoid touching zeroposters too, but last game I just watched a wolfteam comprised of a zeroposter, a suicide bomb claimer, a player who barely posted 10 times a day and a player who lolcatted the entire game win because town wanted to lynch an active player. So imo we should just punish players not playing the game and then see how we can solve from there.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:59 am**

If I were to push among the active players, I think hollowkatt, Porscha or Sloonei did the least towny stuff.

If I were to lynch among the inactive, I would probably lynch arogame123 or Rondo because I know they've seen this thread, they have voted in the position thread and yet haven't posted anything.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:07 am**

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:18 am**

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:55 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:44 am @falcon45ca what's your read on Creature after your interaction?

The same question for @Creature what's your read on Falcon?
I think falcon is town. I can see where his thoughts are coming from and it doesn't feel straight out agenda.

Who has agenda from your Pov?

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:59 am If I were to push among the active players, I think hollowkatt, Porscha or Sloonei did the least towny stuff.

If I were to lynch among the inactive, I would probably lynch arogame123 or Rondo because I know they've seen this thread, they have voted in the position thread and yet haven't posted anything.

For now you are pushing me because you were wrong about me in a mash. Seems odd because I don't play in mashes like in a normal game. Also you say from the active players I have done the least, but above I am not in the list of player doing the least.
Why would you push Sloonei whom you wanted to consider towny earlier?
I don't understand your position in the game tbh

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:20 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:07 am [VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

@RondoDimBuckle come play, we need your input in the game.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:21 am**

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:54 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:39 am
Creature wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 8:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:31 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:10 pm I think DrWilgy not posting anything so far surprises me the most. WerewolfHunter is a resident slanker and the other two slanking names (arogame123 and Rondo) I have no idea who they are.
Is DrWilgy usually a beacon of activity?
No, but he always posts something early game and I am really suspicious he haven't even made a cameo like he usually does.
Zero activity is NAI don't push Dr.W because of it
I know DrWilgy is usually a slanker. My main concern about him is that he didn't even make an entrance which he usually does before dipping off.

@DrWilgy the game started long ago, come and play

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:23 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 8:25 pm Dragon D. Luffy I believe is town for the solving

Objection! I haven't solved anything! I remain just as confused as when the game started

(jk I know what you mean)

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:25 pm**

Whatever I think we just get rid of the zeroposters because they're actively detrimental to solving

[VOTE: RondoDimBuckle] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:29 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 10:49 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 10:49 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 7:55 pm Falcon looks fine tbh.
I don't remember why I voted falcon but I'm fine leaving it there
does this falcon feel significantly different to the last time we played? the ducktales game

I dunno my impression of him that game was arriving at RoD, realizing he was being chopped and faking a thunderdome with him for town cred.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:29 pm**

@Creature answer me please.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:33 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:18 am
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:55 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:44 am @falcon45ca what's your read on Creature after your interaction?

The same question for @Creature what's your read on Falcon?
I think falcon is town. I can see where his thoughts are coming from and it doesn't feel straight out agenda.
Who has agenda from your Pov?

I don't think anyone displayed a clear agenda right now, but it's hard to tell when there are players not playing.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:59 am If I were to push among the active players, I think hollowkatt, Porscha or Sloonei did the least towny stuff.

If I were to lynch among the inactive, I would probably lynch arogame123 or Rondo because I know they've seen this thread, they have voted in the position thread and yet haven't posted anything.
For now you are pushing me because you were wrong about me in a mash. Seems odd because I don't play in mashes like in a normal game. Also you say from the active players I have done the least, but above I am not in the list of player doing the least.
Why would you push Sloonei whom you wanted to consider towny earlier?
I don't understand your position in the game tbh

Sloonei is one of the players I'd expect more to come soon if they're town. I'm willing to push them if they keep being useless though.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:37 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 5:14 am "Lets not kill the zero posters"

Then we get to Fx and there are two zero posters and its "this game is impossible we have two zero posters"

Actually, the one responsible for killing zero posts is the host.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:39 pm**

Like yeah if the host doesn't modkill inactives we probably have to yeet them (though vigging is WAY better for them). But if the host is not modkilling inactives, the game itself has a bigger issue.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:41 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:57 am I used to avoid touching zeroposters too, but last game I just watched a wolfteam comprised of a zeroposter, a suicide bomb claimer, a player who barely posted 10 times a day and a player who lolcatted the entire game win because town wanted to lynch an active player.

F

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:49 pm**

Was most interested in getting info on the zero posters, as opposed to running one down rn. Interesting that creature kinda jumped onto it as a push at one rn, when the big picture for me (at least) was getting help to identify which of the slankers are operating within their town meta, and those that aren't.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:51 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:39 pm Like yeah if the host doesn't modkill inactives we probably have to yeet them (though vigging is WAY better for them). But if the host is not modkilling inactives, the game itself has a bigger issue.

Agreed, ideally a vig (on host) takes care of the dead weight. I don't see a vig in the setup, or a min post requirement.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:02 pm**

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:51 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:39 pm Like yeah if the host doesn't modkill inactives we probably have to yeet them (though vigging is WAY better for them). But if the host is not modkilling inactives, the game itself has a bigger issue.
Agreed, ideally a vig (on host) takes care of the dead weight. I don't see a vig in the setup, or a min post requirement.

There are vig items but they seem expensive.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:24 pm**

Michelle looks town.

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:24 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:02 pm
Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:51 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:39 pm Like yeah if the host doesn't modkill inactives we probably have to yeet them (though vigging is WAY better for them). But if the host is not modkilling inactives, the game itself has a bigger issue.
Agreed, ideally a vig (on host) takes care of the dead weight. I don't see a vig in the setup, or a min post requirement.
There are vig items but they seem expensive.

Oh yeah.. hm. I skimmed the night store items, guess I didnt read closely enough.
Guess we should all just shhh about what was or wasn't purchased

Posted: **Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:48 pm**

Chopping absent players is viable if no good candidates emerge among the active players.

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