Steely Dan Mafia [ENDGAME]

[dunya]

jack, if you were me and i were you, would you trust me today?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I will self vote if I can get some promises to hang LC when I flip town.

ugh pls don't be that guy

Why does everyone on this site have such a hate-boner for self-voting?

Sometimes it is a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

because it sucks when people throw a fit at the thread cos they're being voted and self vote cos they're angry....for being voted...in a game of mafia....where every day phase people vote each other out.

so i don't differentiate between which situation sucks or not. self voting SUCKS. period.

No. Self voting is bad when it amounts to ganethrowing (or at least daythrowing).

Besides this situation, a revenge killer could self vote to save another townie from lynch and trigger his own kill to nab a wolf instead of lynch a different townie.

It’s only frowned upon because it often goes with “woe is me and also fuck my own team.”

That is not what I’m saying.

[Jackofhearts2005]

jack, if you were me and i were you, would you trust me today?

Don’t ask me stuff like this.

[Jackofhearts2005]

what even is jack doing?

"i gave speedchuck a vest in return for his power"
"no, wait, i gave nutella a vest in return for her power"
"oh wait, it's a doc protection"

Look, you wanna believe the host or not?

[dunya]

i have never created a game that allowed self voting, that's how much i hate it and will cont. to hate it. i have never seen it necessary. don't vote at all or throw away your vote on a nobody instead.

[dunya]

what even is jack doing?

"i gave speedchuck a vest in return for his power"
"no, wait, i gave nutella a vest in return for her power"
"oh wait, it's a doc protection"

Look, you wanna believe the host or not?

it's gonna suck if you're town. you had a good role. but i don't think epi fucks with us this much. that lc role is so specific and believable. you're claiming lc is lying and i don't think he is. there's just gotta be too much that aligns together for your claim to be true, and i don't see it. for instance, if the mafia have a strongman that killed nutella, why wasn't there a kill yesterday?

*epi laughs evilly in the background*

[dunya]

uh. wait a minute.

[Jackofhearts2005]

...

[dunya]

i dunno why i'm humoring you, you're bad. i just thought i caught something but i didn't. anyway, i did some calculations and i'm sure of it.

imagine though for a split second the rest of the mafia team is leetic, niju, neverwhere and rey. lol. and they just didn't submit a nightkill.

[speedchuck]

what even is jack doing?

"i gave speedchuck a vest in return for his power"
"no, wait, i gave nutella a vest in return for her power"
"oh wait, it's a doc protection"

(telling us his teammate's powers and getting them slightly wrong)

(I kid)

(maybe)

I actually don't know what to believe for sure. Epi warned us that claiming wouldn't be all that helpful.

[Jackofhearts2005]

And we never heard from Dunya again.

Linki: Ruiner of jokes.

[Jackofhearts2005]

i dunno why i'm humoring you, you're bad. i just thought i caught something but i didn't. anyway, i did some calculations and i'm sure of it.

imagine though for a split second the rest of the mafia team is leetic, niju, neverwhere and rey. lol. and they just didn't submit a nightkill.

Well damn, another loss for me. I can’t carry all the time.

[Jackofhearts2005]

That should be in sarcastic orange.

[dunya]

can we talk about anyone who isn't jack? please? my brain has thought of every angle and i'm happy with his lynch but let's get moving onto the next.

DDL teammates with Jack and Mac? yes/no?

[dunya]

[VOTE: novaselinenever] aubergine

come on baby, gimme a little more.

[dunya]

what even is jack doing?

"i gave speedchuck a vest in return for his power"
"no, wait, i gave nutella a vest in return for her power"
"oh wait, it's a doc protection"

(telling us his teammate's powers and getting them slightly wrong)

(I kid)

(maybe)

I actually don't know what to believe for sure. Epi warned us that claiming wouldn't be all that helpful.

that would be abso-fucking-lutely hilarious. only topped by YOU being that teammate.

[speedchuck]

what even is jack doing?

"i gave speedchuck a vest in return for his power"
"no, wait, i gave nutella a vest in return for her power"
"oh wait, it's a doc protection"

(telling us his teammate's powers and getting them slightly wrong)

(I kid)

(maybe)

I actually don't know what to believe for sure. Epi warned us that claiming wouldn't be all that helpful.

that would be abso-fucking-lutely hilarious. only topped by YOU being that teammate.

Psh. I wouldn't self-target a role trade doctor, nor would I not use the role to make a point.

I'd also bus the ever-living bedonkus out of Jack, to return the favor.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

what even is jack doing?

Melting down.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

can we talk about anyone who isn't jack? please? my brain has thought of every angle and i'm happy with his lynch but let's get moving onto the next.

Sure we can!

DDL teammates with Jack and Mac? yes/no?

No.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Well I guess I could be teammates with Jack in some crazy scenarios but his recent posts make me not believe it.

[Spacedaisy]

never mind. wouldn't explain the 2 nights in a row thing.

It would if literally any of his teammates could skip a day phase.

At that point we're looking at a huuuge gambit to lynch Jack though

It’s only a huge gambit if people are willing to lynch LC when I flip town.

I am.

I don’t likehisstuff with Juliets. There is a very clear thread based reason why no one in this game should suspect her anymore imo.

[novaselinenever]

Well, this didn't take long.

[Spacedaisy]

After Jack is done I think we need to start tackling them inactives.

Is there really no one else active who is suspicious?

I didn't say that. But I do think at some point we'll have such a high concentration of civs among the actives that letting the inactives stay untouched will not be optimal.

And I do think you are bad DDL.

[novaselinenever]

Dunya, talk to me. What's your beef with me?

[Spacedaisy]

can we talk about anyone who isn't jack? please? my brain has thought of every angle and i'm happy with his lynch but let's get moving onto the next.

DDL teammates with Jack and Mac? yes/no?

Yes

[juliets]

Juliet's response was not very impressive to me, I don't believe that she has a lack of understanding about my Discord Theory. I also don't believe she has a lack of understanding of how distancing from and accusing a teammate when you think you're getting lynched is a smart thing to do.

I do not understand your discord theory. Maybe someone else does and they can explain it to me since you won't. I do not have a lack of understanding about distancing, but I think your accusation that I was distancing when I said Jack was bad is absurd. And finally, I don't care whether you are impressed or not, you are barking up the wrong tree.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

After Jack is done I think we need to start tackling them inactives.

Is there really no one else active who is suspicious?

I didn't say that. But I do think at some point we'll have such a high concentration of civs among the actives that letting the inactives stay untouched will not be optimal.

And I do think you are bad DDL.

Whatever.

[Matahari]

I placed a vote on Jack, the 6th vote. I don’t see it as likely to change.

[novaselinenever]

Juliet's response was not very impressive to me, I don't believe that she has a lack of understanding about my Discord Theory. I also don't believe she has a lack of understanding of how distancing from and accusing a teammate when you think you're getting lynched is a smart thing to do.

I do not understand your discord theory. Maybe someone else does and they can explain it to me since you won't. I do not have a lack of understanding about distancing, but I think your accusation that I was distancing when I said Jack was bad is absurd. And finally, I don't care whether you are impressed or not, you are barking up the wrong tree.

Long Con's theory of Discord developed by the Longest Con states that the most frequent Discord user in any player list is bad. Also known as Discord selection.

[novaselinenever]

I think Jack insinuated that LC was hiding somewhere on Discord/Chatzy for his baddie chat, and LC's making the connection that since you're the most frequent Discord user here, you may have told your teammate (Jack in this case) that LC was online on Discord. Something like that I believe.

[novaselinenever]

I placed a vote on Jack, the 6th vote. I don’t see it as likely to change.

How's the reading been?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

No, seriously. What do people think of Luna?

I'm asking because I think nothing of Luna, but the fact people were suspecting her seemed relevant and I was hoping where would be more Luna-related posts to see if I agreed with them or not. I haven't seen any since nutella died.

[leetic]

After Jack is done I think we need to start tackling them inactives.

Is there really no one else active who is suspicious?

I didn't say that. But I do think at some point we'll have such a high concentration of civs among the actives that letting the inactives stay untouched will not be optimal.

Going after only inactives can slow the town down this early on though.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

After Jack is done I think we need to start tackling them inactives.

Is there really no one else active who is suspicious?

I didn't say that. But I do think at some point we'll have such a high concentration of civs among the actives that letting the inactives stay untouched will not be optimal.

Going after only inactives can slow the town down this early on though.

Do you have anything to add to this game besides opposition to us going after people who have nothing to add to this game?

[Matahari]

I placed a vote on Jack, the 6th vote. I don’t see it as likely to change.

How's the reading been?

I’ve only done a solid cover on two people so far. I do have a revised and expanded suspect list, but I’d rather wait until the night phase to discuss it.

[juliets]

WTH is a discord theory?

LC is like “Jack mentioned Discord but I’ve never used Discord in a mafia. Therefore, tmi.”

Except that never happened.

Jack, I was going to ask you about this actually. I went through most of your iso yesterday and didn't see anything about discord, nor do I remember it being mentioned. Are you saying here that you never said anything about discord?

[juliets]

I think Jack insinuated that LC was hiding somewhere on Discord/Chatzy for his baddie chat, and LC's making the connection that since you're the most frequent Discord user here, you may have told your teammate (Jack in this case) that LC was online on Discord. Something like that I believe.

Oh ok, I didn't see this before I just posted. I didn't see a post with Jack saying anything about discord so I guess I missed it. I have been on discord quite a bit and haven't seen LC there in a long time if that helps. This reasoning is really tenuous.

[juliets]

Well I guess I could be teammates with Jack in some crazy scenarios but his recent posts make me not believe it.

DDL, I'm not sure what you mean with this post. You can see how you might look team compatible with Jack, but then you say his recent posts make you not believe it. I don't really understand what you mean by that last part. Could you explain what you are saying?

[Spacedaisy]

I’m out grocery shopping. Going to park my vote on Jack now just to be sure I don’t miss the deadline.

[Matahari]

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] you said last night that you thought speedchuck was making a joke related to his last game. Considering he mentioned it in five different posts, this just doesn’t seem like a joke.
[mention]speedchuck[/mention] were you joking about that claim?

It's a fuckin day power and I got what should have been your power to use last night in exchange.

What is my power, Jack? And who did you use it on?

I don't mind you saying. I've already claimed.

[Long Con]

Jack's right - he said "Chatzy" and somehow my memory changed it to "Discord". My bad.

Ugh. Here's the thing. Jack is bad.

So, knowing Jack is bad, I just think back to these posts:

Hopefully after tonight I'll glean more from a nice reread.

Please clarify this for me. How do we know Jack is bad? Did I miss something? Or are you just saying what you feel certain about?

The water turned to cherry wine. Two nights. That means Jack is bad.

Dafuck is this?

I'm not bad and I can prove it.

I can freaking prove my ability as soon as the day starts.

Jack, the day started.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Well I guess I could be teammates with Jack in some crazy scenarios but his recent posts make me not believe it.

DDL, I'm not sure what you mean with this post. You can see how you might look team compatible with Jack, but then you say his recent posts make you not believe it. I don't really understand what you mean by that last part. Could you explain what you are saying?

I mean Jack is probably bad but I'm not 100% sure of it.

It's just a fancy way to say I'm a civ in order to annoy dunya.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

This Chatzy/Discord discussion makes me want to grab the nearest computer and throw it out of the window. Fortunately the nearest computer is mine, and I like it too much to do that.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I'm here and nobody is taking my posts seriously except for telling me I'm bad so I'll going to roast the posts that you guys are making.

[novaselinenever]

I'm here and nobody is taking my posts seriously except for telling me I'm bad so I'll going to roast the posts that you guys are making.

I'm taking them seriously. Talk to me.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I guess it's just futile to try to make productive discussion in Lynch-the-Cop-Result day. I've seen it tried many times in the past few years. It never works.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I'm here and nobody is taking my posts seriously except for telling me I'm bad so I'll going to roast the posts that you guys are making.

I'm taking them seriously. Talk to me.

Wanna GTH?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Disclaimer for everyone: GTH has been known to send people raging away from this site so please do not feel compelled to signing up for GTH if you are not prepared to have your weak reads be roasted for even weaker reasons.

[novaselinenever]

I'm here and nobody is taking my posts seriously except for telling me I'm bad so I'll going to roast the posts that you guys are making.

I'm taking them seriously. Talk to me.

Wanna GTH?

Let's go

[novaselinenever]

Need more people though