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kill ender then end the game, lucky for me you’ve been wrong about everything for 3 cycles straight and have lost all credibility whereas i’ve been ahead of everything
won’t the game be called if sub 3 people aliveLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:45 pmI don't think it matters. You and I are the only confirmed Town. The game must end with one or both of us alive, and no one else, to have the greatest surety of victory.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:27 pm Thing is, I could plausibly see all 5 of us being town
But then the scumteam just imploded and that's kinda anticlimactic
Oh, wtf?? Good question, maybe it was a mistake?
Will it?robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:48 pmwon’t the game be called if sub 3 people aliveLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:45 pmI don't think it matters. You and I are the only confirmed Town. The game must end with one or both of us alive, and no one else, to have the greatest surety of victory.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:27 pm Thing is, I could plausibly see all 5 of us being town
But then the scumteam just imploded and that's kinda anticlimactic
Yeah I knowLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:45 pmI don't think it matters. You and I are the only confirmed Town. The game must end with one or both of us alive, and no one else, to have the greatest surety of victory.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:27 pm Thing is, I could plausibly see all 5 of us being town
But then the scumteam just imploded and that's kinda anticlimactic
I don't actually know. OP says the game doesn't end until everyone votes that it's over, and if we're wrong then town autoloses.robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:48 pmwon’t the game be called if sub 3 people aliveLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:45 pmI don't think it matters. You and I are the only confirmed Town. The game must end with one or both of us alive, and no one else, to have the greatest surety of victory.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:27 pm Thing is, I could plausibly see all 5 of us being town
But then the scumteam just imploded and that's kinda anticlimactic
Exactly. I think that one of us dies to a wolf tonight, and then we have to take out the wolf tomorrow, then we'll be good to execute unknowns until we can't anymore.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:50 pmYeah I knowLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:45 pmI don't think it matters. You and I are the only confirmed Town. The game must end with one or both of us alive, and no one else, to have the greatest surety of victory.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:27 pm Thing is, I could plausibly see all 5 of us being town
But then the scumteam just imploded and that's kinda anticlimactic
But we won't know that unless there aren't any NKs until it's just us
And if there's a wolf, they would definitely have to kill before it got to that point
...i guess that's your point, they'd be forced to kill one of us to avoid that situation
Ok yeah, but remember the (random?) ghost votes can skew the executions. Which is why it isn't safe to haphazardly vote people out.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:52 pmExactly. I think that one of us dies to a wolf tonight, and then we have to take out the wolf tomorrow, then we'll be good to execute unknowns until we can't anymore.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:50 pmYeah I knowLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:45 pmI don't think it matters. You and I are the only confirmed Town. The game must end with one or both of us alive, and no one else, to have the greatest surety of victory.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:27 pm Thing is, I could plausibly see all 5 of us being town
But then the scumteam just imploded and that's kinda anticlimactic
But we won't know that unless there aren't any NKs until it's just us
And if there's a wolf, they would definitely have to kill before it got to that point
...i guess that's your point, they'd be forced to kill one of us to avoid that situation
Maybe, but that's assuming scum had control over the ghost votes, right? I was under the assumption they were mostly random.
Correct
i literally figured out that it was nook in thread and nook not saying if he thought it was ender or not was literally outing for him because he was carefully avoiding not confirming any mech inoffensiveWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:01 pmNo idea about that
I thought we thought it was ender yesterday
Ohhhhrobyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:03 pmi literally figured out that it was nook in thread and nook not saying if he thought it was ender or not was literally outing for him because he was carefully avoiding not confirming any mech inoffensiveWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:01 pmNo idea about that
I thought we thought it was ender yesterday
That's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:03 pmYou know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)
he said he’d sheep me, and i outlined the “kill ender end game” plan like 12h agoLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:05 pmThat's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:03 pmYou know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)
I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!
Yeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:05 pmThat's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:03 pmYou know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)
I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!
robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:11 am i only know one man venal enough to chop wigly there that isn't ender himself, his name is nook. i think that makes nook v though, i just think it's easy to think they're partnered but they aren't
i don't think bereft is scum and i think entire team is dead after ender dies and we've figured out that the voting ability was nook
i think ender's side of nook/ender interactions look bad and pockety and nook being more independent and outspoken than a gay teenager (moi)
i think we just chop ender, f4 where sleep happens and vote sleep after the f4 ends with confidence if someone isn't nked, otherwise i'll have to check with rondo what happens in a situation where 2 townies are alive @RondoDimBuckle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:35 am I think I'm actually ok with just following Robyn's lead tomorrow
To me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:07 pmYeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:05 pmThat's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:03 pmYou know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)
I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!
On the bright side, I guess it forced ender to stop pushing meWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:10 pm It's kind of unfortunate I got cleared by svs's flip, I think pretty much any other slot would've been a more useful check
Oh well
on the contrary, if nook scum then tomorrow is an auto win for ender/nook, but because ender is outed that makes it so if nook does vote ender tomorrow he’s mech townLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:09 pmTo me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:07 pmYeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:05 pmThat's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:03 pmYou know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)
I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!
No.robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:14 pmon the contrary, if nook scum then tomorrow is an auto win for ender/nook, but because ender is outed that makes it so if nook does vote ender tomorrow he’s mech townLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:09 pmTo me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:07 pmYeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:05 pmThat's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:03 pmYou know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)
I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!
and ender is outed because he ghosted the thread
so the plan is just kill ender and end the game, gg ezpz
ender pushed bereft, aka locktown bereft, aka abbie threw hardWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:13 pm Did ender push anyone at all yesterday cause I don't remember it
I only remember him telling boquise he thought he knew what happened but that it was the wrong conclusion
Meaning he already assumed Boq was town
And that ender did take an action
Yeah, that was pretty revealing, and also easily concocted by Ender.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:13 pm Did ender push anyone at all yesterday cause I don't remember it
I only remember him telling boquise he thought he knew what happened but that it was the wrong conclusion
Meaning he already assumed Boq was town
And that ender did take an action
Oh yeah he did totally dip lolrobyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:14 pmon the contrary, if nook scum then tomorrow is an auto win for ender/nook, but because ender is outed that makes it so if nook does vote ender tomorrow he’s mech townLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:09 pmTo me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:07 pmYeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:05 pmThat's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:03 pmYou know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)
I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!
and ender is outed because he ghosted the thread
so the plan is just kill ender and end the game, gg ezpz
I forgot about thatrobyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:15 pmender pushed bereft, aka locktown bereft, aka abbie threw hardWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:13 pm Did ender push anyone at all yesterday cause I don't remember it
I only remember him telling boquise he thought he knew what happened but that it was the wrong conclusion
Meaning he already assumed Boq was town
And that ender did take an action
well too bad because the person with the 3 ghost votes trusts me on this, so you’ll have to be more convincing in your sus of me at the very leastLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:15 pmNo.robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:14 pmon the contrary, if nook scum then tomorrow is an auto win for ender/nook, but because ender is outed that makes it so if nook does vote ender tomorrow he’s mech townLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:09 pmTo me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:07 pmYeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:05 pmThat's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:03 pmYou know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)
I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!
and ender is outed because he ghosted the thread
so the plan is just kill ender and end the game, gg ezpz
Yeah but let's say I die tonight for example. You go into tomorrow with you/ender/robyn/nook and vote ender out.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:15 pmNo.robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:14 pmon the contrary, if nook scum then tomorrow is an auto win for ender/nook, but because ender is outed that makes it so if nook does vote ender tomorrow he’s mech townLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:09 pmTo me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:07 pmYeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:05 pmThat's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:03 pmYou know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)
I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!
and ender is outed because he ghosted the thread
so the plan is just kill ender and end the game, gg ezpz
It's not about suspicion. It's about playing it safe. If you're Town then you have nothing to lose by graciously dying before we vote to Endgame.robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:17 pmwell too bad because the person with the 3 ghost votes trusts me on this, so you’ll have to be more convincing in your sus of me at the very leastLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:15 pmNo.robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:14 pmon the contrary, if nook scum then tomorrow is an auto win for ender/nook, but because ender is outed that makes it so if nook does vote ender tomorrow he’s mech townLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:09 pmTo me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:07 pmYeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:05 pmThat's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:03 pm
You know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)
I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!
and ender is outed because he ghosted the thread
so the plan is just kill ender and end the game, gg ezpz
Either of them could be an Independent who does not kill.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:18 pmYeah but let's say I die tonight for example. You go into tomorrow with you/ender/robyn/nook and vote ender out.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:15 pmNo.robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:14 pmon the contrary, if nook scum then tomorrow is an auto win for ender/nook, but because ender is outed that makes it so if nook does vote ender tomorrow he’s mech townLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:09 pmTo me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:07 pmYeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:05 pmThat's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:03 pm
You know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)
I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!
and ender is outed because he ghosted the thread
so the plan is just kill ender and end the game, gg ezpz
You go into night with you/robyn/nook. Nobody dies.
You do need to end the game. You don't vote Robyn or nook.
If there's a kill on you and it's just robyn/nook then the game is definitely over anyway.
You know a non-killing 3p can just win with town, right?Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:19 pmEither of them could be an Independent who does not kill.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:18 pmYeah but let's say I die tonight for example. You go into tomorrow with you/ender/robyn/nook and vote ender out.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:15 pmNo.robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:14 pmon the contrary, if nook scum then tomorrow is an auto win for ender/nook, but because ender is outed that makes it so if nook does vote ender tomorrow he’s mech townLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:09 pmTo me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:07 pmYeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.
and ender is outed because he ghosted the thread
so the plan is just kill ender and end the game, gg ezpz
You go into night with you/robyn/nook. Nobody dies.
You do need to end the game. You don't vote Robyn or nook.
If there's a kill on you and it's just robyn/nook then the game is definitely over anyway.
not in this uwuWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:20 pmYou know a non-killing 3p can just win with town, right?Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:19 pmEither of them could be an Independent who does not kill.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:18 pmYeah but let's say I die tonight for example. You go into tomorrow with you/ender/robyn/nook and vote ender out.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:15 pmNo.robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:14 pmon the contrary, if nook scum then tomorrow is an auto win for ender/nook, but because ender is outed that makes it so if nook does vote ender tomorrow he’s mech townLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:09 pmTo me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:07 pm
Yeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.
and ender is outed because he ghosted the thread
so the plan is just kill ender and end the game, gg ezpz
You go into night with you/robyn/nook. Nobody dies.
You do need to end the game. You don't vote Robyn or nook.
If there's a kill on you and it's just robyn/nook then the game is definitely over anyway.