The Syndicate

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:16 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:11 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:05 pm juliets, re: that post (the tag feature is finnicky on mobile) — I don’t really remember. If I was “more active” it couldn’t have been by much at all, I’ve been pretty low-key in games for a long time now.

All I can attest to is Nanook perceived you were on him like a dog with a bone. I'm not saying that's evidence that your game there was different than here, to me it just says Nanook's feeling here is genuine, whether it's true or not. I hope that makes sense.

Yeah I get you.

FWIW of those voting for me, NANOOK’s beef feels most earnest. Turbup and Dom less so.

Although I will concede that Dom is right that me quoting myself is not evidence of anything, and I didn’t post it as such.

....what's your point in posting it?

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:19 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:14 pm Colin is bad because he never really caught up but is posting like he did.

Dom is bad because he got a bad rolecard. See, I can do this too!

This... is... not comparable to what I said.

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:26 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:16 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:11 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:05 pm juliets, re: that post (the tag feature is finnicky on mobile) — I don’t really remember. If I was “more active” it couldn’t have been by much at all, I’ve been pretty low-key in games for a long time now.

All I can attest to is Nanook perceived you were on him like a dog with a bone. I'm not saying that's evidence that your game there was different than here, to me it just says Nanook's feeling here is genuine, whether it's true or not. I hope that makes sense.

Yeah I get you.

FWIW of those voting for me, NANOOK’s beef feels most earnest. Turbup and Dom less so.

Although I will concede that Dom is right that me quoting myself is not evidence of anything, and I didn’t post it as such.

....what's your point in posting it?

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:19 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:14 pm Colin is bad because he never really caught up but is posting like he did.

Dom is bad because he got a bad rolecard. See, I can do this too!

This... is... not comparable to what I said.

1) Because I post it a lot when I’m town and it makes me chuckle to myself

2) Yes it is

Sorry it's the weekend and weekend is family time so I'm not gonna post much on the weekend. Weekend. Someone wanna give me cliffs?

Tbh I’m getting heated by the notion that I didn’t read the thread when I spent a few hours doing so, so y’all can do whatever you want, I’ll check the thread later. Mislynch me and my ghost will make fun of you accordingly

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:22 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:16 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:13 pm I could lynch Mac for the crime of being irrelevant.

I'll expand. His involvement in this game has been significant in one arena to my memory -- the Jacktella combat. And his part in that combat was to parrot Jack (both against nutella and in favor of nutella) such that he had no personal accountability for nutella's eventual flip. He left all of it on Jack's lap.

Otherwise, irrelevance.

Hey that’s the thing I said too.

Jay town

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:24 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:22 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:19 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:14 pm Colin is bad because he never really caught up but is posting like he did.

Dom is bad because he got a bad rolecard. See, I can do this too!

Whatever you may think of it, what Dom said there is a concrete accusation. Your mockery is not.

It’s an accusation without any merit or evidence, as is mine. I’ll respond to specific questions or accusations based on things I’ve posted but if people are just going to say “you’re bad cause you are” then, God, please, lynch me today.

...It's not without evidence.

You posted you'd catch up. You did so for like maybe a few pages and then disappeared again. You came back with full knowledge of the game, but didn't show your work.
I was wondering if you'd drop by at the end of D1 to make a eerily informed vote. I was robbed of this.

...Mac's timing is IMPECCABLE, huh?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:25 pmI'm not allowed to be uncertain how to read another player? On D1?

Sloonei's style I find to be closed off. I don't have a good handle on what to make of him. So sue me.

Uncertainty itself is not a crime, but I have to believe that it is authentic.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:30 pm Tbh I’m getting heated by the notion that I didn’t read the thread when I spent a few hours doing so, so y’all can do whatever you want, I’ll check the thread later. Mislynch me and my ghost will make fun of you accordingly

who was flipping out over appeals to emotion, agian?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:29 pm Sorry it's the weekend and weekend is family time so I'm not gonna post much on the weekend. Weekend. Someone wanna give me cliffs?

you’re bad

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:29 pm Sorry it's the weekend and weekend is family time so I'm not gonna post much on the weekend. Weekend. Someone wanna give me cliffs?

you're gonna die

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:07 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:03 pm Of the present multi-vote wagons (Colin, Mac, Radish) I think Radish is the best lynch.

I am inclined to agree with this. Tonally I do feel like Radishes is playing a similar game to Inception. Also, question for him or for the thread, but when he ISO’d a bunch of people nobody else was talking about, why did he pick those people? Was it prompted?

They were the wagon voters on me last round, ergo potential scum slots.

If I sound similar to Inception, are you saying I'm 3P again?

[mention]Master Radishes[/mention] what do you mean when you say that my style is “closed off”? I make a deliberate effort to foster an open and communicative thread environment.

I see Juliets asked me a thing. I don't know why it's weird tbh. Jack was (is) scummy but in multiball scum are scum hunting so his read is still worth taking stock. Like why would I ignore his read in that context because of an earlier ping? It's day 1 who cares. It's about throwing shit at a wall.

I won't catch up til tomorrow so if there's anything else tag me.

Linki: Oh. What's all this then.

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:31 pm ...Mac's timing is IMPECCABLE, huh?

I literally just woke up. I'm in bed in my underpants.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:32 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:29 pm Sorry it's the weekend and weekend is family time so I'm not gonna post much on the weekend. Weekend. Someone wanna give me cliffs?

you're gonna die

Why?

Because you are bad.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:35 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:32 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:29 pm Sorry it's the weekend and weekend is family time so I'm not gonna post much on the weekend. Weekend. Someone wanna give me cliffs?

you're gonna die

Why?

Because your biggest role in this game so far has been to cuddle tenderly with Jackofhearts2005.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:32 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:29 pm Sorry it's the weekend and weekend is family time so I'm not gonna post much on the weekend. Weekend. Someone wanna give me cliffs?

you’re bad

I'm gonna be pretty sad if I get lynched. I'd appreciate at least being given some idea of why I'm a suspect. Is it because I'm not posting much?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:32 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:29 pm Sorry it's the weekend and weekend is family time so I'm not gonna post much on the weekend. Weekend. Someone wanna give me cliffs?

you’re bad

Yet you’re comfortable voting with him

Wait you’re sloonei not jay lmao

Oh but it holds true for you too

Jfc you really are the same person

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:34 pm @Master Radishes what do you mean when you say that my style is “closed off”? I make a deliberate effort to foster an open and communicative thread environment.

It's late here and I'm probably going to articulate this poorly, but,

Your style of asking so many questions means I never know what you're thinking. Your posts tend to be short, meaning there's less to read into them. I find the tone of your posts...I dunno, placid. Stuff like that, in some combination.

I'm sure I'll 'get you' eventually.

Calling my Mac vote

Mac's vote is... unexpected and transparently baddie.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:37 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:35 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:32 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:29 pm Sorry it's the weekend and weekend is family time so I'm not gonna post much on the weekend. Weekend. Someone wanna give me cliffs?

you're gonna die

Why?

Because your biggest role in this game so far has been to cuddle tenderly with Jackofhearts2005.

That's a pretty shitty reason. Good luck if after this many pages we're lynching Mac based on not being productive. Things are different for me now. I can't dedicate hours per day to Mafia. If it takes mislynches to establish to my meta that low production doesn't equal scum so be it.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:38 pm Oh but it holds true for you too

Jfc you really are the same person

Mac just voted moments ago. I don't really care about that logic anyway -- it is too restrictive.

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:40 pm Mac's vote is... unexpected and transparently baddie.

I'm not gonna stick around so I'm voting where it's most likely to be self preservation.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:37 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:32 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:29 pm Sorry it's the weekend and weekend is family time so I'm not gonna post much on the weekend. Weekend. Someone wanna give me cliffs?

you’re bad

I'm gonna be pretty sad if I get lynched. I'd appreciate at least being given some idea of why I'm a suspect. Is it because I'm not posting much?

I don’t think lack of activity is alignment indicative for you.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:40 pm That's a pretty shitty reason. Good luck if after this many pages we're lynching Mac based on not being productive. Things are different for me now. I can't dedicate hours per day to Mafia. If it takes mislynches to establish to my meta that low production doesn't equal scum so be it.

That's fine. They're different for me too. I didn't say "not being productive" though.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:40 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:38 pm Oh but it holds true for you too

Jfc you really are the same person

Mac just voted moments ago. I don't really care about that logic anyway -- it is too restrictive.

Fair nuff

Yeah okay. Enjoy your Mac free paradise Dom. Typical shit.

Oh look I'm being railroaded by Dom and Nanook. I'm in Mafia heaven.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:14 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:14 pm I'm going to look at Master Radish next and then nutella.

Any reason for the order here considering Nutella is present and Radishes is not?

This is Mac's only post mentioning Radishes.
He is voting Radish.

When he came in, it was 2 on Mac and 3 on Radish.

He voted to make it 4 on radish.

.... why? Just to protect himself? Why Radish? Colin was right there too.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:42 pm Yeah okay. Enjoy your Mac free paradise Dom. Typical shit.

What the fuck is this?

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:42 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:14 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:14 pm I'm going to look at Master Radish next and then nutella.

Any reason for the order here considering Nutella is present and Radishes is not?

This is Mac's only post mentioning Radishes.
He is voting Radish.

When he came in, it was 2 on Mac and 3 on Radish.

He voted to make it 4 on radish.

.... why? Just to protect himself? Why Radish? Colin was right there too.

I didn't have the vote numbers because I hadn't cast my vote yet. It's impossible for me to do anything right if you are going to attack me in this manner.

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:42 pm Yeah okay. Enjoy your Mac free paradise Dom. Typical shit.

What the fuck is this?

You know exactly what this is.

I mean tbf radish is the logical self prez vote yeah? Been pressure on him since yesterday and two Colin voters are saying they’d vote mac (I think you were a Colin voter?)

You guys know you can view the poll without voting right

I'm going to ignore you. I don't need this negative bs.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:45 pm You guys know you can view the poll without voting right

I probably would have got told I was scum by Dom for that too.

Ok time to hibernate again

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention], [mention]sig[/mention] why are you voting for me?

Oh now nobody wants to talk. Funny that.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:59 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:58 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:56 pm Still think Tony is bad tbh. One of you freaks that’s always asking for more ISOs to do, go check him out

Any beefs beyond the off-wagon vote?

His exchange with you. I had the same thought about his reads list, wondering where those names came from.

I definitely called out the town ones as they went by and think I had said something about each of the scum ones

I mentioned earlier that there were a few moments that made me question juliets. Here they are: First up is this exchange about my early read on Radishes, in which juliets misinterpreted/misrepresented the nature of my read twice. It took us three tries to get on the same page, and that's not something I'm used to experiencing with juliets. I'm not necessarily saying we always see eye to eye, but her first two cracks at my read are both off the mark in a direction that I would not expect from her. The next occurrence was somewhat similar, though not as jarring.
This second one would probably not have registered at all were it not for the similarities to the first episode, likewise the first one probably would not seem so glaring if it was not repeated again later:

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:28 pm @Sloonei you mentioned you had mislynched Colin in the past for similar behavior (I think that's what you said). Can you expound on that at all?

I had not said this at the time, though I had said something in the area (and since this question I've dug my heels in a bit more on Colin, so I'm not sure I'd even object to this suggestion). But this marks a second instance in which juliets extrapolated something from my posts that was not there. At this stage, I had mentioned (once, maybe twice) my track record of mislynching Colin as a caution to those who were beginning to suspect him. I was making an effort to refrain from linking his present behavior to past games because I had not looked at his activity in this game closely, so it would have been bogus of me to make any claims like that here. It was noticeable, then, when juliets asked me to explain a read which I'd be consciously avoiding.

Another point I noticed when I was digging for these posts: juliets struggles to give a read on Radishes. She explains how she's gone through the process of reading the cases against him, and then makes the point of comparing this situation to a past game where she misread a scum player (Elephant in Inception) as town for the entire game, indicating that she is the problem herself, which would also seem to indicate a commitment of sorts to a negative read on Radishes here and now. But she ends with a town read on him, and casts further doubt about one of my central points against him. I find this progression mildly suspicious, and I also could see it as a potential teammate partnership in the event that one or the other of these two flips bad.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:58 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:59 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:58 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:56 pm Still think Tony is bad tbh. One of you freaks that’s always asking for more ISOs to do, go check him out

Any beefs beyond the off-wagon vote?

His exchange with you. I had the same thought about his reads list, wondering where those names came from.

I definitely called out the town ones as they went by and think I had said something about each of the scum ones

I don't even understand this

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:48 pm Jackofhearts2005, sig why are you voting for me?

sig can't post
feel free to respond to his case though

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:04 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:48 pm Jackofhearts2005, sig why are you voting for me?

sig can't post
feel free to respond to his case though

Ok thank you.

[mention]sig[/mention] it's true that I profile likely so I can see why you'd think that. Even if you weren't suspecting me I would probably silence you if I had that role because it feels like tradition for me to use irritating roles on you. But unfortunately your logic beyond it being on point for meta doesn't hold up. I didn't read a single post during the night. I didn't even know you were suspecting me during the previous phase until I just read your post when Sloonei linked it, or at least I don't remember it. And my content/tone isn't a scum indicative thing for me.

Be mindful of the fact that I think there are quite a few people who would silence you night 1 who aren't me also. I'm sorry but you're barking up the wrong tree. I think you should probably apply the same logic when considering others though.