The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:23 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:57 pm .......fuck it............................[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine.......

.......wanted.......to see..............how much.......whim..............would be.......expended.......

..............that's.......a passing.......grade.......

Not really seeing the progression on the turnaround but there are some bad Wilgy posts fmpov that Pyxxy interacts with so it’s not insane that the progression exists and is just unstated.

.......a large.......motivation.......for me.......was frustration.......from people.......still thinking.......that D1.......was SvS.......

.......so I was.......eager.......to throw my vote around.......D4.......if that is helpful.......to know.......

.......I would say.......it's not unreasonable.......that wilgy/pyxxy.......saw D1 go down.......and after I survived.......SvS theories.......I become a deepwork.......if I bus wilgy?.......

.......busy rn.......but let me.......wolfy hypothesize.......

.......what if.......everyone who thought.......D1 was SvS.......is either a dead townie.......or scum .......

.......if this doesn't win the game.......then I never said it.......

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:26 pm .......busy rn.......but let me.......wolfy hypothesize.......

.......what if.......everyone who thought.......D1 was SvS.......is either a dead townie.......or scum .......

.......if this doesn't win the game.......then I never said it.......

I don’t get it.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:30 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:26 pm .......busy rn.......but let me.......wolfy hypothesize.......

.......what if.......everyone who thought.......D1 was SvS.......is either a dead townie.......or scum .......

.......if this doesn't win the game.......then I never said it.......

I don’t get it.

.......put another way.......anyone who pushed the SvS idea.......is/was scum?.......it's a hypothesis.......

.......similar to how I pointed out.......that Camilla kept.......wanting Wilgy dead......._only_.......if I flipped RB.......which..........................................

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:32 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:30 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:26 pm .......busy rn.......but let me.......wolfy hypothesize.......

.......what if.......everyone who thought.......D1 was SvS.......is either a dead townie.......or scum .......

.......if this doesn't win the game.......then I never said it.......

I don’t get it.

.......put another way.......anyone who pushed the SvS idea.......is/was scum?.......it's a hypothesis.......

.......similar to how I pointed out.......that Camilla kept.......wanting Wilgy dead......._only_.......if I flipped RB.......which..........................................

So who did this?

And why would this group be made up of dead townies and one wolf?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:37 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:30 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:27 pm .......@Jackofhearts2005.......sorry for.......second ping..............on re-read.......do you.......recall..............what you think.......I thought.......of roxy.......D1/D2?.......

.......please respond.......without..............re-reading..............if.......you don't mind.......

Idk.

I remember Camilla and Scotty and iirc Alison and maybe Tutuu all suspecting Roxy for bad reasons D2. Nobody really pushed her D1 but Porscha? I don’t specifically remember you doing it but I could just be forgetting or thinking it was Tutuu when it was you.

Why?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:02 am roxy..............town

.......self.......explanatory

.......yes.......I know.......what.......this looks like....... .......

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:01 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 3:24 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:02 am roxy..............town

.......self.......explanatory

.......yes.......I know.......what.......this looks like....... .......

It isn't self explanatory to me. Elaborate.

".......yes.......I know.......what.......this looks like....... ......."

was.......about.......you..............bud..............you cleared roxy..............for me

..............when.......you.......wolf..............are.......you..............fearless?

.......bed time

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 1:11 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 1:08 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 12:53 pm .......to be clear..............second game.......iirc.......with roxy..............and.......previous.......she.......was scum..............but.......towny.......to me.......since.......D1.......

wait so are you saying you still think roxy could be bad?

.......unlikely.......bad.......imo.......

.......I've been.......defending.......roxy..............for a while.......so..............was.......just curious..............if.......you noticed.......

I didn’t even notice just now.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:33 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:32 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:30 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:26 pm .......busy rn.......but let me.......wolfy hypothesize.......

.......what if.......everyone who thought.......D1 was SvS.......is either a dead townie.......or scum .......

.......if this doesn't win the game.......then I never said it.......

I don’t get it.

.......put another way.......anyone who pushed the SvS idea.......is/was scum?.......it's a hypothesis.......

.......similar to how I pointed out.......that Camilla kept.......wanting Wilgy dead......._only_.......if I flipped RB.......which..........................................

So who did this?

And why would this group be made up of dead townies and one wolf?

.......I don't know.......I don't have time rn.......

.......also don't know..............it's a theoryyyyyyy.......(two wolves tho).......

@Alison

Is your reason for towncoring Pyxxy in his iso? Cause there’s nothing super wolfy and there aRe some good bits but also not anything I think is just locktown.

Like my biggest reasons to townread Pyxxy would be how he was treated by Porcha and Wilgy.

Well, I guess I should read the flipped wolves again? I’ve literally isoed every living player this phase and I’m still pretty unsure.

This is at least my third iso of both flipped wolves so I want ya'll to know that you don't deserve a sub this good.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 6:05 pm Day 1:
Porscha: Alison, Seanzie, Roxy, Pyxxy, Wilgy
Pyxxy: Scotty, Porscha, Zenon, Tutuu
Scotty: Rondo
Tutuu: Falcon
Missing: Camilla, Prince J

Day 2:
Falcon: Alison, Tutuu, Pyxxy, Rondo
Rondo: Scotty, Wilgy, Falcon, Camilla, Zenon
Tutuu: Roxy
Missing: Prince J

Day 1's Pyxxy wagon has at least one wolf in it. This is just between Scotty/Pyxxy.

Falcon I could be wrong on assuming Scotty T, based on D2 wagons. I just don't think I am.
A solving PoE:
Pyxxy > Scotty > Prince Jack > Falcon

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine if I'm wrong, let me know. I may muster up the effort to change my vote... Probably not actually. Godspeed you apathetic gremlins.

This and the rest of Wilgy's D4 just look really good for Pyxxy is the main thing.

Also, the idea that Pyxxy and Porscha were w/w dueling wagons D1 and they just kinda didn't address each other for the most part kinda falls flat. Like it's easier to buy that town Pyxxy didn't have a strong read on Porscha and was like "well whatever I better self preserve" than Pyxxy and Porscha were teammates and they just let this all happen and Pyxxy didn't do anything at all to capitalize on the Porscha bus even though he was literally the determining vote.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:58 pm Also, the idea that Pyxxy and Porscha were w/w dueling wagons D1 and they just kinda didn't address each other for the most part kinda falls flat. Like it's easier to buy that town Pyxxy didn't have a strong read on Porscha and was like "well whatever I better self preserve" than Pyxxy and Porscha were teammates and they just let this all happen and Pyxxy didn't do anything at all to capitalize on the Porscha bus even though he was literally the determining vote.

And in general, Pyxxy's gimmick and passivity are just....a really shitty strategy if your teammates are Porscha and Wilgy. No offense to the dead wolves but they aren't known to solo carry their team. Pyxxy would be required to have threadpull. Then he gave himself a gimmick that would minimize his threadpull and kept up with it through all three wolves getting wagoned and various points.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:14 am ..............I.......await..............roxy.......ttyl.......

where are we voting @pyxxy?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:50 pm This is at least my third iso of both flipped wolves so I want ya'll to know that you don't deserve a sub this good.

I do appreciate you put your whole self into this game. Idk if you care, but I do.

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:11 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:14 am ..............I.......await..............roxy.......ttyl.......

where are we voting @pyxxy?

.......wanna rand.......between you and Camilla?..............

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:26 pm .......busy rn.......but let me.......wolfy hypothesize.......

.......what if.......everyone who thought.......D1 was SvS.......is either a dead townie.......or scum .......

.......if this doesn't win the game.......then I never said it.......

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:14 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:11 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:14 am ..............I.......await..............roxy.......ttyl.......

where are we voting @pyxxy?

.......wanna rand.......between you and Camilla?..............

If that is what it takes for the town to win then yes.

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:15 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:14 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:11 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:14 am ..............I.......await..............roxy.......ttyl.......

where are we voting @pyxxy?

.......wanna rand.......between you and Camilla?..............

If that is what it takes for the town to win then yes.

.......cool.......

.......then vote Camilla..............and make Jack self-destruct..............

a rand ftw would be hilarious and awesome

.......In the meantime.......I pray the Scotty prayer.......lord scum.......please take me.......in the dark of night.......so I don't have to solve F3 if we're wrong..............

Camilla wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:13 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:04 pm

Camilla wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:01 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:57 am

Camilla wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:56 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:53 am @Camilla hypothetical: we exe jack, he flips town

Your next move is?

Re-eval the shit out of Pyxxy/Roxy as in this world then it's someone in that pairing as I have you basically nigh-IC at this point.

Most likely Roxy as she doesn't really have the same levels of non-W/W interactions as Pyxxy does and a lot of the things I'm TR'ing her for such as the needless suspicion on you and her town entitlement isn't impossible to fake.

Could you do those things now? Just for fun?

Right, then why would W!Roxy shade Alison rn when she could just coast on this thunderdome if she's a wolf?

Can you please stop answering my questions and requests with challenges?

I don’t know who the wolf is. If I knew who the wolf is, I wouldn’t bother asking you to evaluate other players.

I’m not asking you to vote X instead of me. I’m asking you to keep trying to find the wolf.

If you're V then it's just Roxy, I guess.

Her play today kind of fits the endgame solowolf to a T where she doesn't really seem to care about this stupid dome and just shaded Alison then bailed unlike Pyxxy/Alison who seem to be genuinely upset at how the days has been going on, tbh.

My reasoning to townread her was that suspicion on Alison felt pointless but she never really follows up to it and it feels somewhat performative with that in mind.

yep I did bail tbh.

I bailed bc:

Camilla wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:03 am

Do I look like I care about your vote?

I have zero faith that you'd ever vote correctly here so I'm treating you as the fourth member of the wolfteam.

The town's wincon effectively boils down to killing Jack today so it's up to Pyxxy to vote correctly.

I mean after that post what is the point?
I was down to iso everyone too but apparently not good enough for you. I am sorry I did not play your "preferred" way.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:31 pm .......In the meantime.......I pray the Scotty prayer.......lord scum.......please take me.......in the dark of night.......so I don't have to solve F3 if we're wrong..............

I read Scotty's iso during the night phase hence me starting with Alison bc I had already done Camilla then I would have done Jack and you before making a decision. But the thread felt so toxic I was not having fun playing a *game*. When I don't have fun I no longer want to play if that makes sense. Nothing destroys my pleasure more than someone telling me I can't play right/their way.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:24 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:15 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:14 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:11 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:14 am ..............I.......await..............roxy.......ttyl.......

where are we voting @pyxxy?

.......wanna rand.......between you and Camilla?..............

If that is what it takes for the town to win then yes.

.......cool.......

.......then vote Camilla..............and make Jack self-destruct..............

this feels like fun ...so....yes.

Looks like we got us a real party here


vote Camilla

also fwiw I am vt

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:43 pm also fwiw I am vt

..........................................oh

.......aight.......@Jackofhearts2005.......that makes my suspool.......you and camilla.......and I would consider you voting roxy today.......as outing.......

.......sorry that.......I'm double backing.......on the rand :'(.......

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:41 pm what made up my mind was when i realized the best reasons to clear roxy is that she has no gamestate reason to sus me as wolf

but she clearly isnt paying attention to gamestate at all so idk if thats right

this is just a mean thing to say to anyone who has ever played even one game of mafia.

Who the fuck are you to tell someone they have no gamestate?

That's right you are no one.

No one important enough for anyone to care about these types of comments that are wholly unnecessary and toxic.

You like toxic? I don't.


I was however paying enough attention to the gamestate bc I read Scotty's iso in the night it was the reason I *had* to iso you. For him. So straight up - fu

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:42 pm if we ignore all the fluff and just look at who's been townie today then roxy is the loser by a lot

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:51 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:43 pm also fwiw I am vt

..........................................oh

.......aight.......@Jackofhearts2005.......that makes my suspool.......you and camilla.......and I would consider you voting roxy today.......as outing.......

.......sorry that.......I'm double backing.......on the rand :'(.......

Oh well.

I’m more worried about being wrong than I am about convincing players to vote with me.

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:51 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:41 pm what made up my mind was when i realized the best reasons to clear roxy is that she has no gamestate reason to sus me as wolf

but she clearly isnt paying attention to gamestate at all so idk if thats right

this is just a mean thing to say to anyone who has ever played even one game of mafia.

Who the fuck are you to tell someone they have no gamestate?

That's right you are no one.

No one important enough for anyone to care about these types of comments that are wholly unnecessary and toxic.

You like toxic? I don't.


I was however paying enough attention to the gamestate bc I read Scotty's iso in the night it was the reason I *had* to iso you. For him. So straight up - fu

Roxy, Alison.

Alison, Roxy.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:57 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:51 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:43 pm also fwiw I am vt

..........................................oh

.......aight.......@Jackofhearts2005.......that makes my suspool.......you and camilla.......and I would consider you voting roxy today.......as outing.......

.......sorry that.......I'm double backing.......on the rand :'(.......

Oh well.

I’m more worried about being wrong than I am about convincing players to vote with me.

.......np.......just wanted to be.......upfront.......

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:51 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:43 pm also fwiw I am vt

..........................................oh

.......aight.......@Jackofhearts2005.......that makes my suspool.......you and camilla.......and I would consider you voting roxy today.......as outing.......

.......sorry that.......I'm double backing.......on the rand :'(.......

so you are sure about Alison? Bc after Scotty's iso I was not so sure.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:59 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:51 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:41 pm what made up my mind was when i realized the best reasons to clear roxy is that she has no gamestate reason to sus me as wolf

but she clearly isnt paying attention to gamestate at all so idk if thats right

this is just a mean thing to say to anyone who has ever played even one game of mafia.

Who the fuck are you to tell someone they have no gamestate?

That's right you are no one.

No one important enough for anyone to care about these types of comments that are wholly unnecessary and toxic.

You like toxic? I don't.


I was however paying enough attention to the gamestate bc I read Scotty's iso in the night it was the reason I *had* to iso you. For him. So straight up - fu

Roxy, Alison.

Alison, Roxy.

thanks for the intro but we have met before.

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:09 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:51 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:43 pm also fwiw I am vt

..........................................oh

.......aight.......@Jackofhearts2005.......that makes my suspool.......you and camilla.......and I would consider you voting roxy today.......as outing.......

.......sorry that.......I'm double backing.......on the rand :'(.......

so you are sure about Alison? Bc after Scotty's iso I was not so sure.

.......thanks to your vt claim.......I don't have to figure that out.......because either me or Alison dies tonight.......

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:11 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:09 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:51 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:43 pm also fwiw I am vt

..........................................oh

.......aight.......@Jackofhearts2005.......that makes my suspool.......you and camilla.......and I would consider you voting roxy today.......as outing.......

.......sorry that.......I'm double backing.......on the rand :'(.......

so you are sure about Alison? Bc after Scotty's iso I was not so sure.

.......thanks to your vt claim.......I don't have to figure that out.......because either me or Alison dies tonight.......

I hope it is not you as I will just give up.

.......to be clear.......I think scotty died.......bc wilgy rb'd him.......and scum thought it was real.......since scotty talked up saving tutuu.......in a manner that was not WIFOM.......imo.......

.......I do not think.......scotty died.......for his reads.......like.......at all.......since wilgy already wanted.......scotty vs pyxxy (myself).......D4.......

.......camilla's willingness to pivot.......from scotty/pyxxy solve.......to pyxxy/jack.......and then wilgy/jack.......to me.......hints at knowing.......that scotty could be dealt with.......in other manners.......

.......wilgy's frozen gamestate.......of scotty/pyxxy solve.......was convenient.......and I think the goal.......was to mischop scotty D4.......slash force a claim.......and get me chopped at the last minute.......

.......thus confirming the RB.......plus scotty dies N4.......and it's kilo with no doc.......the next night.......

.......scum chat please clap if I'm right, ty.......

[VOTE: Camilla] aubergine

If I'm wrong, sorry.

I just....I can see more dishonesty from Camilla than anyone else. Nobody's iso is perfect but if I was to go through and list all the times I thought each remaining player may have scum agenda, the Camilla list would be far and away the longest.

I have a decent reason to townread everybody. Wilgy treats Pyxxy as not a partner. Roxy votes for and shades Porscha even though she has a meta of never bussing. Alison buries Wilgy in a way that draws attention to her and shuts down other misyeets that would help her win a lot. And Camilla (until the very end of this day) was all in on yeeting Jack in a way that looked really honest.

But then on top of that, Alison, Pyxxy and Roxy all have pretty good isos and were treated as not partners by wolves. Lots of little reasons to think they're town, Roxy less so than Pyxxy and Alison but still. Camilla doesn't have that. Her iso isn't squeaky clean and townie. The wolves didn't treat her like she wasn't on their team. I'm just more able to believe that Camilla put on a good performance today as a wolf than one of the others put on a good performance all game.

And whoever the wolf is atp is doing a really good job. Thanks for giving us a good chase.

Game over? Night phase? Me not knowing how time works again?

.......votes not locked?.......I don't think?.......phase ends when poll ends in _~15 minutes_.......then we suffer in silence.......then the flip.......

Mmm. Time zones then.

y'all killed another villager. camilla joins us all at arby's. nothing matters

you have 23 hours to submit night orders. D6 begins on Tuesday, June 6 at 2:00 PM PST / 5:00 PM EST / 11:00 PM CET

votes are locked starting tomorrow

day 5 vote tally

pyxxy was mugged in an alley and left for dead. they were town doctor.

you have 48 hours to decide the elimination, until thursday, june 8 at 2:00 PM PST / 5:00 PM EST / 11:00 PM CET

HOWEVER, votes are locked and the game will end when all votes have been made. only votes made in thread are counted. once everyone has voted, please message me on Discord for quickest reaction.

vote Jack

tho I do mean it when I say I read your posts and Macho Man Randy Savage is providing the narrative.

Camilla tho I doubted was indeed town you did help make a hell of a case on her with me.

I asked specifically to Pyx about Alison and they were sure it was either Alison or Pyx who dies.
So I am guessing they had checked Alison.

That leaves you my friend.

I appreciate you actually reading my posts and making the best cases.
Look forward to playing with you again.

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 4:56 pm pyxxy was mugged in an alley and left for dead. they were town doctor.

you have 48 hours to decide the elimination, until thursday, june 8 at 2:00 PM PST / 5:00 PM EST / 11:00 PM CET

HOWEVER, votes are locked and the game will end when all votes have been made. only votes made in thread are counted. once everyone has voted, please message me on Discord for quickest reaction.

Spoiler: show

@Jackofhearts2005
@Alison
@pyxxy
@Roxy

Not really surprising, though I hoped for death, having no real idea who the wolf is.

well uh that was quick

with roxy's vote on jackofhearts2005, alison is guaranteed the win. gg wolves